Re: [aur-general] python-foo and python2-foo - should they conflict?

2012-10-16 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Felix Yan  wrote:
> As mentioned in the Arch Packaging Standards [1]:
> /usr/share/doc/{pkg}Application documentation
>
> You should rename the documentation folder of your packages to
> /usr/share/doc/$pkgname, so there would be not anymore conflict.
>
> [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards

The thing is both use /usr/share/doc/python-foo. Yeah I guess it makes
sense that one should use /usr/share/doc/python2-foo, thanks =)


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Yichao Yu
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Masato Hashimoto
 wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:55:39 -0400
> Allen Li  wrote:
>
> 
>> so dropping it
>> is extremely unfavorable I think.
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Allen Li
>
> +1
>
> AFAIK, ibus is default input method framework of Fedora, Ubuntu and
> openSUSE.

Not really for openSUSE[1] now.

[1] http://en.opensuse.org/Features#Input_Methods

> It's most popular in CJK wide.

 It's popular because it is the default and it is the default
because of their names and some historical reasons.

> --
> HASHIMOTO, Masato


Re: [aur-general] Packages depends on either python 2 or 3

2012-10-16 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Felix Yan  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have written a tool [1] in python and packaged it in AUR [2], now I
> have the following problem:
>
> 1) The tool is written compatible with python 2.7 and 3.x, so I'd like
> to depends on something like (python>=2.7), but the package python2
> does not provides python=$pkgver. So what should the package depend
> on? (is there an "or"-like operator in depends=?)

You can't specify an "OR dependency relation" in a PKGBUILD, so it's
up to you whether it'll depend on 'python' or 'python2'.

> 2) How about the shebang line then? Now it is "/usr/bin/env python"
> but if the user only installed python2 this won't work correctly in
> the default case.

"/usr/bin/env python3" if you decide on Python 3; "/usr/bin/env
python2" otherwise.

It may be a good idea to keep "/usr/bin/env python" on Github and
change it using sed(1) in the PKGBUILD. This way the upstream script
will support both major Python versions, while the AUR package can be
tailored for Arch.

> I've been keeping a watchful eye on recent rebuilds of python
> packages, but still confused about the above situation, thanks for any
> ideas :)
>
> [1] https://github.com/felixonmars/ydcv
> [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=62759
>
> Felix Yan
> Twitter: @felixonmars
> Wiki: http://felixc.at


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Masato Hashimoto
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:55:39 -0400
Allen Li  wrote:


> so dropping it
> is extremely unfavorable I think.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> Allen Li

+1

AFAIK, ibus is default input method framework of Fedora, Ubuntu and 
openSUSE.
It's most popular in CJK wide.
-- 
HASHIMOTO, Masato


[aur-general] Packages depends on either python 2 or 3

2012-10-16 Thread Felix Yan
Hi all,

I have written a tool [1] in python and packaged it in AUR [2], now I
have the following problem:

1) The tool is written compatible with python 2.7 and 3.x, so I'd like
to depends on something like (python>=2.7), but the package python2
does not provides python=$pkgver. So what should the package depend
on? (is there an "or"-like operator in depends=?)
2) How about the shebang line then? Now it is "/usr/bin/env python"
but if the user only installed python2 this won't work correctly in
the default case.

I've been keeping a watchful eye on recent rebuilds of python
packages, but still confused about the above situation, thanks for any
ideas :)

[1] https://github.com/felixonmars/ydcv
[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=62759

Felix Yan
Twitter: @felixonmars
Wiki: http://felixc.at


Re: [aur-general] Removal request: libtcod-beta

2012-10-16 Thread Connor Behan
On 16/10/12 04:40 PM, Joao Cordeiro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you please remove the AUR package libtcod-beta [1]?
>
> I am the maintainer but there is not longer a beta version of the library.
> It has become stable.
>
> Thanks
> João
>
> [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48698
Deleted, thanks.



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[aur-general] Removal request: libtcod-beta

2012-10-16 Thread Joao Cordeiro
Hi,

Can you please remove the AUR package libtcod-beta [1]?

I am the maintainer but there is not longer a beta version of the library.
It has become stable.

Thanks
João

[1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48698


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Felix Yan
Hi all,

Another FYI about the ibus integration in gnome-shell:

There is an official instruction [1] from gnome to disable
ibus-integration, that brings us at least two ways to go:

1) Packaging gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-control-center as-is, and
split ibus package to something like ibus-common or libibus.
(Obviously better)
2) Disable ibus-integration at compile time and thus no option for
user to enable it without a re-compilation.

[1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/IBus

Felix Yan
Twitter: @felixonmars
Wiki: http://felixc.at


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 17 October 2012 02:05, Yichao Yu  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Yichao Yu  wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman  
>> wrote:
>>> On 17 October 2012 00:55, Allen Li  wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to point out that ibus does Japanese and Korean, whereas
 fcitx only does simplified Chinese (at least according to the wiki).
 Thus ibus is one of the only input options for those languages on arch
 at the moment (barring that other one whose name I'm having trouble
 recalling at the moment, which I found inferior to ibus), so dropping it
 is extremely unfavorable I think.

 Just my two cents.

 Allen Li

 On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.
>
> Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
> For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago 
> (2011-10-02).
>
> These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
> neither adopted nor moved.
> While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
> none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.
>
> After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
> interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
> packages on AUR to show for.
> I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
> instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
> heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.
>
> There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
> that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
> related packages on AUR:
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m
>
> If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
> yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
> [community] (and thus becoming a TU).
>
> If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
> relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.
>
> Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
> you have additional information.
>
> Sounds like a plan?
>
>
> --
> Cordially,
>  Alexander Rødseth
>  Arch Linux Trusted User
>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)
>>>
>>> Also, fcitx looks very CJK-specific to me, whereas ibus is a
>>> multilingual input bus (think SCIM). So, not really directly
>>> comparable. I'm all for finding someone to maintain the stuff, be it
>>> in the repos or AUR.
>>
>> No, fcitx is also not cjk-specific at all. There is fcitx-keyboard
>> (which is already merged into fcitx itself) that you can use keyboard
>> layout as input method to input all languages that just need a layout
>> switching. It also has spell check/hint(as you can see on the fcitx
>> wiki main page..) which ibus cannot provide. Here[1] is also a list of
>> input method fcitx support now (basically covers all major input
>> method ibus supports). Yes most of them are Chinese input method but
>> that's because Chinese input method is the single most complicated
>> one. (also true for ibus).
>>
>> Yes the original name of fcitx suggest it is a Chinese input method
>> but it is not anymore now
>>
>> And no, I am not talking about dropping ibus packages (taking into
>> account the *stupid* thing gnome3.6 have been doing on input method
>> integration, it might not be a good idea to move those into AUR
>> either..). Just want to clarify that fcitx is not CJK specific (in
>> fact it provides more non-CJK specific features than ibus and scim
>> now, e.g. spell, clipboard, lua, xkb, quickphrase etc...) and want to
>> encourage people to try fcitx for its handful features even for
>> non-CJK ppl.
>>
>> [1] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Distribution_Package_Status
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1
>
> Just a little bit more noise about fcitx and ibus packages.
>
> Among those fcitx package in AUR, either fcitx-configtool or kcm-fcitx
> is already a implicit dependency of fcitx (depending on the DE u r
> using) since editing the configure file is no longer supported.
> fcitx-sunpinyin and fcitx-cloudpinyin are also installed by most
> Chinese fcitx users so it will be really nice to see these package
> (along with Japanese and Korean ones) in the official repo (which I am
> sure Felix Yan can be a good maintainer).
>
> For ibus packages, it is also not a good idea to drop any of the
> existing ibus input methods which is already in the official repo. All
> of them are required package if you want to use ibus to input in those
> languages. (Since the upstream of most of the pa

Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Yichao Yu
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Yichao Yu  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman  
> wrote:
>> On 17 October 2012 00:55, Allen Li  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to point out that ibus does Japanese and Korean, whereas
>>> fcitx only does simplified Chinese (at least according to the wiki).
>>> Thus ibus is one of the only input options for those languages on arch
>>> at the moment (barring that other one whose name I'm having trouble
>>> recalling at the moment, which I found inferior to ibus), so dropping it
>>> is extremely unfavorable I think.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents.
>>>
>>> Allen Li
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
 Hello,


 ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.

 Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
 https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
 For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago 
 (2011-10-02).

 These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
 neither adopted nor moved.
 While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
 none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.

 After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
 interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
 packages on AUR to show for.
 I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
 instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
 heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.

 There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
 that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
 related packages on AUR:
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m

 If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
 yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
 [community] (and thus becoming a TU).

 If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
 relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.

 Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
 you have additional information.

 Sounds like a plan?


 --
 Cordially,
  Alexander Rødseth
  Arch Linux Trusted User
  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)
>>
>> Also, fcitx looks very CJK-specific to me, whereas ibus is a
>> multilingual input bus (think SCIM). So, not really directly
>> comparable. I'm all for finding someone to maintain the stuff, be it
>> in the repos or AUR.
>
> No, fcitx is also not cjk-specific at all. There is fcitx-keyboard
> (which is already merged into fcitx itself) that you can use keyboard
> layout as input method to input all languages that just need a layout
> switching. It also has spell check/hint(as you can see on the fcitx
> wiki main page..) which ibus cannot provide. Here[1] is also a list of
> input method fcitx support now (basically covers all major input
> method ibus supports). Yes most of them are Chinese input method but
> that's because Chinese input method is the single most complicated
> one. (also true for ibus).
>
> Yes the original name of fcitx suggest it is a Chinese input method
> but it is not anymore now
>
> And no, I am not talking about dropping ibus packages (taking into
> account the *stupid* thing gnome3.6 have been doing on input method
> integration, it might not be a good idea to move those into AUR
> either..). Just want to clarify that fcitx is not CJK specific (in
> fact it provides more non-CJK specific features than ibus and scim
> now, e.g. spell, clipboard, lua, xkb, quickphrase etc...) and want to
> encourage people to try fcitx for its handful features even for
> non-CJK ppl.
>
> [1] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Distribution_Package_Status
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1

Just a little bit more noise about fcitx and ibus packages.

Among those fcitx package in AUR, either fcitx-configtool or kcm-fcitx
is already a implicit dependency of fcitx (depending on the DE u r
using) since editing the configure file is no longer supported.
fcitx-sunpinyin and fcitx-cloudpinyin are also installed by most
Chinese fcitx users so it will be really nice to see these package
(along with Japanese and Korean ones) in the official repo (which I am
sure Felix Yan can be a good maintainer).

For ibus packages, it is also not a good idea to drop any of the
existing ibus input methods which is already in the official repo. All
of them are required package if you want to use ibus to input in those
languages. (Since the upstream of most of the packages is not really
active, it shouldn't be hard either.)


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Yichao Yu
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman  wrote:
> On 17 October 2012 00:55, Allen Li  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to point out that ibus does Japanese and Korean, whereas
>> fcitx only does simplified Chinese (at least according to the wiki).
>> Thus ibus is one of the only input options for those languages on arch
>> at the moment (barring that other one whose name I'm having trouble
>> recalling at the moment, which I found inferior to ibus), so dropping it
>> is extremely unfavorable I think.
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Allen Li
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.
>>>
>>> Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
>>> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
>>> For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago 
>>> (2011-10-02).
>>>
>>> These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
>>> neither adopted nor moved.
>>> While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
>>> none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.
>>>
>>> After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
>>> interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
>>> packages on AUR to show for.
>>> I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
>>> instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
>>> heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.
>>>
>>> There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
>>> that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
>>> related packages on AUR:
>>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m
>>>
>>> If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
>>> yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
>>> [community] (and thus becoming a TU).
>>>
>>> If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
>>> relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.
>>>
>>> Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
>>> you have additional information.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a plan?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cordially,
>>>  Alexander Rødseth
>>>  Arch Linux Trusted User
>>>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)
>
> Also, fcitx looks very CJK-specific to me, whereas ibus is a
> multilingual input bus (think SCIM). So, not really directly
> comparable. I'm all for finding someone to maintain the stuff, be it
> in the repos or AUR.

No, fcitx is also not cjk-specific at all. There is fcitx-keyboard
(which is already merged into fcitx itself) that you can use keyboard
layout as input method to input all languages that just need a layout
switching. It also has spell check/hint(as you can see on the fcitx
wiki main page..) which ibus cannot provide. Here[1] is also a list of
input method fcitx support now (basically covers all major input
method ibus supports). Yes most of them are Chinese input method but
that's because Chinese input method is the single most complicated
one. (also true for ibus).

Yes the original name of fcitx suggest it is a Chinese input method
but it is not anymore now

And no, I am not talking about dropping ibus packages (taking into
account the *stupid* thing gnome3.6 have been doing on input method
integration, it might not be a good idea to move those into AUR
either..). Just want to clarify that fcitx is not CJK specific (in
fact it provides more non-CJK specific features than ibus and scim
now, e.g. spell, clipboard, lua, xkb, quickphrase etc...) and want to
encourage people to try fcitx for its handful features even for
non-CJK ppl.

[1] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Distribution_Package_Status

>
>
> --
> GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Yichao Yu
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Allen Li  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to point out that ibus does Japanese and Korean, whereas
> fcitx only does simplified Chinese (at least according to the wiki).

No, not true. There is fcitx-mozc[1][2], fcitx-anthy[3][4],
fcitx-m17n[5][6], fcitx-hangul[7][8]
which you can use to input Japanese and Korean.

Yes, the arch wiki on this is REALLY out-of-date (especially the
english version)

[1] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Mozc
[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=59251
[3] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Anthy
[4] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=60146
[5] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/M17N
[6] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=61028
[7] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Hangul
[8] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=59733

> Thus ibus is one of the only input options for those languages on arch
> at the moment (barring that other one whose name I'm having trouble
> recalling at the moment, which I found inferior to ibus), so dropping it
> is extremely unfavorable I think.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Allen Li
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.
>>
>> Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
>> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
>> For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago 
>> (2011-10-02).
>>
>> These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
>> neither adopted nor moved.
>> While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
>> none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.
>>
>> After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
>> interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
>> packages on AUR to show for.
>> I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
>> instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
>> heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.
>>
>> There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
>> that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
>> related packages on AUR:
>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m
>>
>> If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
>> yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
>> [community] (and thus becoming a TU).
>>
>> If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
>> relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.
>>
>> Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
>> you have additional information.
>>
>> Sounds like a plan?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>>  Alexander Rødseth
>>  Arch Linux Trusted User
>>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 17 October 2012 00:55, Allen Li  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to point out that ibus does Japanese and Korean, whereas
> fcitx only does simplified Chinese (at least according to the wiki).
> Thus ibus is one of the only input options for those languages on arch
> at the moment (barring that other one whose name I'm having trouble
> recalling at the moment, which I found inferior to ibus), so dropping it
> is extremely unfavorable I think.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Allen Li
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.
>>
>> Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
>> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
>> For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago 
>> (2011-10-02).
>>
>> These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
>> neither adopted nor moved.
>> While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
>> none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.
>>
>> After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
>> interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
>> packages on AUR to show for.
>> I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
>> instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
>> heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.
>>
>> There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
>> that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
>> related packages on AUR:
>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m
>>
>> If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
>> yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
>> [community] (and thus becoming a TU).
>>
>> If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
>> relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.
>>
>> Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
>> you have additional information.
>>
>> Sounds like a plan?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>>  Alexander Rødseth
>>  Arch Linux Trusted User
>>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)

Also, fcitx looks very CJK-specific to me, whereas ibus is a
multilingual input bus (think SCIM). So, not really directly
comparable. I'm all for finding someone to maintain the stuff, be it
in the repos or AUR.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Allen Li
Hi,

I would like to point out that ibus does Japanese and Korean, whereas
fcitx only does simplified Chinese (at least according to the wiki).
Thus ibus is one of the only input options for those languages on arch
at the moment (barring that other one whose name I'm having trouble
recalling at the moment, which I found inferior to ibus), so dropping it
is extremely unfavorable I think.

Just my two cents.

Allen Li

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.
> 
> Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
> For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago (2011-10-02).
> 
> These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
> neither adopted nor moved.
> While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
> none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.
> 
> After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
> interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
> packages on AUR to show for.
> I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
> instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
> heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.
> 
> There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
> that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
> related packages on AUR:
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m
> 
> If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
> yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
> [community] (and thus becoming a TU).
> 
> If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
> relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.
> 
> Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
> you have additional information.
> 
> Sounds like a plan?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cordially,
>  Alexander Rødseth
>  Arch Linux Trusted User
>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Felix Yan
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Felix Yan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your attention to CJK input methods.
>
> FWIK yangtsesu is currently a fcitx user and packager of openSUSE [1].
> His packages are okay and updated regularly, but I'm afraid he doesn't
> have enough time to maintain all ibus stuff too.

Oh a BIG sorry that yangtsesu and margueritesu are not the same person
and I've mistaken them for long, and thus the information is wrong :(

Felix Yan
Twitter: @felixonmars
Wiki: http://felixc.at


Re: [aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Felix Yan
Hi,

Thanks for your attention to CJK input methods.

FWIK yangtsesu is currently a fcitx user and packager of openSUSE [1].
His packages are okay and updated regularly, but I'm afraid he doesn't
have enough time to maintain all ibus stuff too.

Besides, I would like to maintain fcitx stuff as I am an active user
and current maintainer of some other fcitx-related popular packages in
AUR [2], and a Chinese native speaker too.

I posted an e-mail [3] to look for sponsor August this year, and
jsteel contacted me and told me lots of useful stuff. I realized I'm
not ready at that time as I had still several obvious problems in my
AUR packages. But I would like to apply again now if applicable.

You may refer to the fcitx packaging status page [4], as mentioned in
my previous mail [3] I am currently maintaining some popular fcitx
packages in the [archlinuxcn] community repo to help CJK users, but it
would be obviously much better if they could be in [community] :)

Sorry, as I am a fcitx user and wishing to maintain fcitx packages, I
can't help with the ibus stuff.

Just a FYI: gnome-settings-daemon will depends on ibus and start
ibus-daemon automatically in the coming 3.6 series, but a user will
still have an option to choose fcitx by setting related env params
such as GTK_IM_MODULE to fcitx. There should be a clean way to do this
though I didn't find one yet :(

Thanks.

[1] http://fcitx-im.org/index.php?title=User:Marguerite_Su
[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=felixonmars
[3] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2012-August/020104.html
[4] http://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Distribution_Package_Status

Felix Yan
Twitter: @felixonmars
Wiki: http://felixc.at


Re: [aur-general] python-foo and python2-foo - should they conflict?

2012-10-16 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 16 October 2012 16:48, Oon-Ee Ng  wrote:
> python-foo and python2-foo - should they conflict?

Absolutely not. At least, ideally. I may work with both Python
versions and in that case will need libraries for each. Shared files
have been a problem, and so far the (painful) route is to split them
into a -common package (since upstream does not care to handle such
inconveniences). See pyqt for an example.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


[aur-general] ibus orphans in [community]

2012-10-16 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hello,


ibus is used for keyboard input for a few major non-English languages.

Several of the ibus packages has been unmaintained for a while now:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&repo=Community&q=ibus&maintainer=orphan
For instance, ibus-sunpinyin, was last updated almost a year ago (2011-10-02).

These ibus-packages have survived at least one package-cleanup, being
neither adopted nor moved.
While there is interest amongst the trusted users to maintain these,
none of the trusted users are currently using ibus.

After visiting #archlinux-cn, a couple of friendly people expressed
interest in maintaining the ibus packages, but they had only few
packages on AUR to show for.
I also learned that mostly, fcitx (currently in [extra], is used
instead of ibus). Dropping ibus could have been an option, but I also
heard rumors that ibus will be a dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.

There is also a canidate for asking to maintain the ibus packages,
that has not yet been contacted, but which already maintains several
related packages on AUR:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=yangtsesu&SeB=m

If you think that his packages look ok, my plan is to contact
yangtsesu and ask if he wants to maintain the ibus packages in
[community] (and thus becoming a TU).

If you know of other canidates that have a comparable selection of
relevant AUR packages, please let us know who they are.

Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect or let us know if
you have additional information.

Sounds like a plan?


-- 
Cordially,
 Alexander Rødseth
 Arch Linux Trusted User
 (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


Re: [aur-general] python-foo and python2-foo - should they conflict?

2012-10-16 Thread Felix Yan
As mentioned in the Arch Packaging Standards [1]:
/usr/share/doc/{pkg}Application documentation

You should rename the documentation folder of your packages to
/usr/share/doc/$pkgname, so there would be not anymore conflict.

As for the use-case one, maybe a user would not USE them both, but he
may be using two other packages that depends the two at the same time
:)

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards

Felix Yan
Twitter: @felixonmars
Wiki: http://felixc.at


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Oon-Ee Ng  wrote:
> Was just trying out some python packages and I realized I can't have
> both the python and python2 variants installed at the same time for
> python-networkx.
>
> Of course, there's conflicts with the license files and perhaps
> documentation, but other than that I wonder whether there's a use-case
> for having both installed (I'm in an academic setting, and I use both
> python3 and python2).
>
> Should I simply custom-PKGBUILD such issues or does it make sense to
> have, for example:-
> 1. python-foo provides all files shared between python3 and python2 variants
> 2. python2-foo depends on python-foo
> ?


[aur-general] python-foo and python2-foo - should they conflict?

2012-10-16 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
Was just trying out some python packages and I realized I can't have
both the python and python2 variants installed at the same time for
python-networkx.

Of course, there's conflicts with the license files and perhaps
documentation, but other than that I wonder whether there's a use-case
for having both installed (I'm in an academic setting, and I use both
python3 and python2).

Should I simply custom-PKGBUILD such issues or does it make sense to
have, for example:-
1. python-foo provides all files shared between python3 and python2 variants
2. python2-foo depends on python-foo
?


[aur-general] Signoff report for [community-testing]

2012-10-16 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [community-testing] ===
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/

There are currently:
* 0 new packages in last 24 hours
* 0 known bad packages
* 0 packages not accepting signoffs
* 0 fully signed off packages
* 4 packages missing signoffs
* 4 packages older than 14 days

(Note: the word 'package' as used here refers to packages as grouped by
pkgbase, architecture, and repository; e.g., one PKGBUILD produces one
package per architecture, even if it is a split package.)



== Incomplete signoffs for [community] (4 total) ==

* clementine-1.1.0rc1-1 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* qtcreator-2.6.0beta-1 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* clementine-1.1.0rc1-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* qtcreator-2.6.0beta-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs


== All packages in [community-testing] for more than 14 days (4 total) ==

* qtcreator-2.6.0beta-1 (i686), since 2012-09-17
* qtcreator-2.6.0beta-1 (x86_64), since 2012-09-17
* clementine-1.1.0rc1-1 (i686), since 2012-09-28
* clementine-1.1.0rc1-1 (x86_64), since 2012-09-28


== Top five in signoffs in last 24 hours ==

1. tpowa - 8 signoffs
2. stephane - 2 signoffs
3. thomas - 2 signoffs