[aur-general] Signoff report for [community-testing]

2014-02-01 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [community-testing] ===
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/

There are currently:
* 0 new packages in last 24 hours
* 0 known bad packages
* 0 packages not accepting signoffs
* 0 fully signed off packages
* 18 packages missing signoffs
* 0 packages older than 14 days

(Note: the word 'package' as used here refers to packages as grouped by
pkgbase, architecture, and repository; e.g., one PKGBUILD produces one
package per architecture, even if it is a split package.)



== Incomplete signoffs for [community] (14 total) ==

* acpi_call-1.1.0-2 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* bbswitch-0.8-6 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* r8168-8.037.00-7 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* rt3562sta-2.4.1.1-52 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* tp_smapi-0.41-44 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* vhba-module-20130607-24 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* virtualbox-modules-4.3.6-5 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* acpi_call-1.1.0-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* bbswitch-0.8-6 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* r8168-8.037.00-7 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* rt3562sta-2.4.1.1-52 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* tp_smapi-0.41-44 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* vhba-module-20130607-24 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* virtualbox-modules-4.3.6-5 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs

== Incomplete signoffs for [unknown] (4 total) ==

* libnftnl-1.0.0-1 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* nftables-0.099-1 (i686)
0/1 signoffs
* libnftnl-1.0.0-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* nftables-0.099-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs


== Top five in signoffs in last 24 hours ==

1. ronald - 3 signoffs
2. lcarlier - 2 signoffs
3. bpiotrowski - 2 signoffs
4. andyrtr - 1 signoffs



Re: [aur-general] Removing stale accounts from the AUR

2014-02-01 Thread Xyne
Nowaker wrote:

Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years old 
comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently active or not.

I agree that if you are going to remove old comments then you should remove all
old comments.

I also think that you should remove the votes with the accounts (if possible).
Otherwise you end up with a pool of unrescindable votes.

Regards,
Xyne


Re: [aur-general] Merge request

2014-02-01 Thread Maxime Gauduin
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:08 PM, David J. Haines djhai...@gmx.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:51:11PM +0100, Maxime Gauduin wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:02 PM, David J. Haines djhai...@gmx.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
   I just took over pioneer and pioneer-git. The way upstream has been
   releasing things has made it that, under the prior maintainer,
   pioneer-git was really using upstream's versioning, while pioneer
   languished under upstream's old versioning system as alpha-something.
  
   Please merge pioneer-git
   (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pioneer-git/) into pioneer
   (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pioneer/) so that I can continue
   forward with just the one.
  
   Thanks!
  
   --
   David J. Haines
   djhai...@gmx.com
   0xAFB3D16D - F929 270F B7C3 78AE A741  434F A7C6 F264 AFB3 D16C
  
 
  I don't think a merge is necessary here. Those 2 packages can coexist,
 just
  update pioneer so that it uses the new versioning. BTW, pioneer-git
 should
  be updated to use the not so new now VCS source array capabilities.
 
  Cheers,
  --
  Maxime

 Given the freqeuency of releases upstream (in their own words: We
 release a new version almost every day.), I don't see much of a need
 for both. If you're unwilling to merge, I'd request instead that
 pioneer-git be deleted.

 Thanks,

 --
 David J. Haines
 djhai...@gmx.com
 0xAFB3D16D - F929 270F B7C3 78AE A741  434F A7C6 F264 AFB3 D16C


In that case, I'd say using the git version is probably more sensible.
Saves you from the trouble of having to update your pioneer PKGBUILD every
other day. Having both certainly does not hurt anyway, gives people more
options.

-- 
Maxime


Re: [aur-general] Deletion request: opentracker, opentracker-latest, opentracker-open

2014-02-01 Thread Maxime Gauduin
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Jonas Heinrich
o...@project-insanity.orgwrote:

 Hey,
 please delete following packages because all of them are covered by
 opentracker-git [1]:
 - opentracker [2]
 - opentracker-latest [3]
 - opentracker-open [4]
 Thank you and best regards,
 Jonas :)

 [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/opentracker-git
 [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/opentracker/
 [3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/opentracker-latest/
 [4] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/opentracker-open/


All taken care of. opentracker was a cvs package in disguise and the other
two unneeded dupes. The git package is still very wrong though, left a
comment asking for it to be rewritten.

-- 
Maxime


[aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Sam Stuewe
Free-cinema [1], appears to be of very questionable legality. It appears 
that it was designed specifically to be used for pirating movies. I 
don't know what the protocol is for dealing with this, just thought it 
was worth reporting.


[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/free-cinema/

--
All the best,
Sam Stuewe (HalosGhost)


Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Sam Stuewe halosgh...@archlinux.info wrote:
 Free-cinema [1], appears to be of very questionable legality. It appears
 that it was designed specifically to be used for pirating movies. I don't
 know what the protocol is for dealing with this, just thought it was worth
 reporting.

 [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/free-cinema/

 --
 All the best,
 Sam Stuewe (HalosGhost)

Upstream url: 
http://kaveensblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/pirate-movie-downloader-for-linux-by-me/


Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Nowaker

Free-cinema [1], appears to be of very questionable legality. It appears
that it was designed specifically to be used for pirating movies. I don't
know what the protocol is for dealing with this, just thought it was worth
reporting.


Downloading a movie, at least in Poland, is totally legal as long as you 
own a legal copy. Working DRM around is legal in such case as well.


If you want to remove a package that does something illegal, AFAIK Lame 
MP3 Encoder would have to be removed from the repo because of some 
patents infringements.


--
Kind regards,
Damian Nowak
StratusHost
www.AtlasHost.eu


Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Jesse McClure

On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 06:21:01PM +0100, Nowaker wrote:
 Downloading a movie, at least in Poland, is totally legal as long as you own
 a legal copy. Working DRM around is legal in such case as well.

The relevant point for the present case of the movie downloading tool is
that the upstream source markets it as being *intended* for illegal use.

-Jesse
AKA 'Trilby'


Re: [aur-general] Removing stale accounts from the AUR

2014-02-01 Thread Никола Вукосављевић
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On 31.1.2014 15:34, Nowaker wrote:
 Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still
 relevant?
 
 Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years
 old comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently
 active or not.
 

What of comments older than two or more years which comment on
packages that haven't been updated upstream for two or more years, and
thus haven't been (probably) updated in the AUR for the same amount of
time, but are still usable? Delete all packages older than two years?
It's a destructive decision...

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Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Rob Til Freedmen
[...] so i created this 27 line program to do it for me and it
automatically adds the torrent to my torrent client.

This package is not and doesn't do any illegal!

Though, if you download (via torrent) something your country deems is
illegal you're responsible -
and if you download (via torrent) something your country doesn't care
of, you will be happy using it.

It really depends on where you live


[aur-general] AUR Requests

2014-02-01 Thread Michael Schubert

Hi,

(Maintainers, if any, are in CC.)

Could you please merge:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python2-imaging/ - 
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python2-imaging-alt/ **
Reason: PIL is being phased out by pillow; 1st is orphan and 2nd one not 
to be replaced like in [community]
Maintainer: please add a replaces=() flag, it should replace 
python2-imaging and not python-imaging


https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python2-socksipy-branch/ - 
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python2-socks/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-socksipy-branch/ ** - 
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-socks/

Reason: socksipy and -branch are dead, socks is maintained and has same API
Maintainer: please let me know if you'd like to maintain the new 
package/why we should keep a dead branch


And remove:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/sundials25/ **
Reason: sundials=2.5 current and available, package installs into /usr 
directly and should not be used


Unsure about:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/socksipy/ **
The original socksipy is last updated 2006 and known to have multiple 
issues that are fixed in the new fork, should we keep this? I tested the 
dependencies damnvid and polly, and both work with python2-socks



** I am not the maintainer of this package. Please consider giving them 
some time to respond. I'd be also very happy to orphan the new packages 
if they like to maintain them.


cheers
Michael


Re: [aur-general] Removing stale accounts from the AUR

2014-02-01 Thread Jason St. John
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Никола Вукосављевић hau...@gmx.com wrote:
 On 31.1.2014 15:34, Nowaker wrote:
 Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still
 relevant?

 Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years
 old comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently
 active or not.


 What of comments older than two or more years which comment on
 packages that haven't been updated upstream for two or more years, and
 thus haven't been (probably) updated in the AUR for the same amount of
 time, but are still usable? Delete all packages older than two years?
 It's a destructive decision...


Sure, they might be usable, but I bet a large number of those old
packages very poorly conform to PKGBUILD best practices (e.g. no use
of ${startdir}, no package() function, no pkgver() function for VCS
packages, etc.).

Eventually, pacman will likely be dropping support for PKGBUILD's
without a package() function, so at some point in the future, the TUs
will probably have to do a mass deletion of old packages anyway.

Jason


Re: [aur-general] AUR Requests

2014-02-01 Thread Rob McCathie
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Michael Schubert mschu@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 (Maintainers, if any, are in CC.)

 Could you please merge:

 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python2-imaging/ -
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python2-imaging-alt/ **
 Reason: PIL is being phased out by pillow; 1st is orphan and 2nd one not to
 be replaced like in [community]
 Maintainer: please add a replaces=() flag, it should replace python2-imaging
 and not python-imaging

Hi Michael,

I will just remove the replaces array in python2-imaging-alt. It's not
appropriate/required for the package nowadays anyway.

I agree python2-imaging should be deleted or merged into
python2-imaging-alt, since when a user installs python2-imaging the
next time they go to system update pacman of course offers to replace
it with python2-pillow. (Yes I know they /could/ just use IgnorePkg=
in pacman.conf)

Regards,
Rob McCathie (korrode)


Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread WorMzy Tykashi
On 1 February 2014 23:05, Rob Til Freedmen rob.til.freed...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...] so i created this 27 line program to do it for me and it
 automatically adds the torrent to my torrent client.

 This package is not and doesn't do any illegal!

 Though, if you download (via torrent) something your country deems is
 illegal you're responsible -
 and if you download (via torrent) something your country doesn't care
 of, you will be happy using it.

 It really depends on where you live
I think it depends more on where the AUR is hosted. Lets not forget
that the MPAA, seems to think that they can sue anyone, anywhere, for
anything they feel adversely affects their profit margins.

When somebody markets their software/script/whatever as a pirate
movie downloader, I think we should probably avoid packaging it.



WorMzy


Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Jason St. John
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:52 PM, WorMzy Tykashi wormzy.tyka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 February 2014 23:05, Rob Til Freedmen rob.til.freed...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...] so i created this 27 line program to do it for me and it
 automatically adds the torrent to my torrent client.

 This package is not and doesn't do any illegal!

 Though, if you download (via torrent) something your country deems is
 illegal you're responsible -
 and if you download (via torrent) something your country doesn't care
 of, you will be happy using it.

 It really depends on where you live
 I think it depends more on where the AUR is hosted. Lets not forget
 that the MPAA, seems to think that they can sue anyone, anywhere, for
 anything they feel adversely affects their profit margins.

 When somebody markets their software/script/whatever as a pirate
 movie downloader, I think we should probably avoid packaging it.



 WorMzy

Assuming IP geolocation is accurate, the AUR is hosted in Germany.

This doesn't matter though. The AUR does not host any software that
may or may not be used for copyright infringement. The AUR is simply a
collection of build scripts. If free-cinema was in [extra] or
[community], then this _might_ be worth investigating because
Arch---and its mirrors---would be hosting the software in question.

However, considering that libdvdcss is provided in [extra] and
dvdbackup is provided in [community], I don't think this is anything
for us to be concerned with.

Jason


Re: [aur-general] Package of Questionable Legality

2014-02-01 Thread Sam Stuewe

On 2014-02-01 21:04, Jason St. John wrote:

However, considering that libdvdcss is provided in [extra] and
dvdbackup is provided in [community], I don't think this is anything
for us to be concerned with.
Totally valid point. I am fine with this decision, I just wanted to make 
sure that the conversation was had :)


--
All the best,
Sam Stuewe (HalosGhost)


[aur-general] Packaging question

2014-02-01 Thread Andrew DeMaria

Hi all!

So say I have package A which is installed with a Drivers folder under 
/usr/lib/PACKAGE_A/.  This package then would have an optional 
dependency on another standalone library (pakage B) to provide a certain 
driver.  To make package A work properly with the optional package B, 
either a symlink or direct copy of a libBBB.so file needs to be made. i.e.


/usr/lib/PACKAGE_A/Drivers/libBBB.so - /usr/lib/PACKAGE_B/libBBB.so

So my question is, what is the best way to make this happen?  Do I 
provide a *.install file for PACKAGE_A that tries to see if PACKAGE_B 
exists and then link the files if so?  What should happen if PACKAGE_B 
is installed after PACKAGE_A?


For reference PACKAGE_A is openni2 
(https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/openni2) and PACKAGE_B is 
libfreenect-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libfreenect-git/).  
Currently they are not tied to each other, but I would like to make it 
possible for openni2 to optionally? depend on a driver provided by 
libfreenect.


Regards,
Andrew


Re: [aur-general] Packaging question

2014-02-01 Thread Magnus Therning
First off, please don't hijack threads in the list; refrain from using
reply-to when starting a new discussion!

On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 11:02:53PM -0700, Andrew DeMaria wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 So say I have package A which is installed with a Drivers folder
 under /usr/lib/PACKAGE_A/.  This package then would have an optional
 dependency on another standalone library (pakage B) to provide a
 certain driver.  To make package A work properly with the optional
 package B, either a symlink or direct copy of a libBBB.so file needs
 to be made. i.e.
 
 /usr/lib/PACKAGE_A/Drivers/libBBB.so - /usr/lib/PACKAGE_B/libBBB.so
 
 So my question is, what is the best way to make this happen?  Do I
 provide a *.install file for PACKAGE_A that tries to see if
 PACKAGE_B exists and then link the files if so?  What should happen
 if PACKAGE_B is installed after PACKAGE_A?
 
 For reference PACKAGE_A is openni2
 (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/openni2) and PACKAGE_B is
 libfreenect-git
 (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libfreenect-git/).  Currently
 they are not tied to each other, but I would like to make it
 possible for openni2 to optionally? depend on a driver provided by
 libfreenect.

In PKGBUILDs you can either depend (place a package in the 'depends'
array) on a package, or optionally depend (place a package in the
'optdepends' array) on a package.  The crucial thing to realise is
that in order to use 'optdepends' the built package must be able to
determine at runtime whether the optional dependencies are present and
if so make use of them.

With this in mind it sounds like what you need is two openni2
packages, one that

  - doesn't depend on libfreenect-git
  - configures openni2 at build time to NOT use (i.e. link against)
libfreenect

and one that

  - does depend on libfreenect-git
  - configures openni2 at build to use (i.e. link against) libfreenect

/M

-- 
Magnus Therning  OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 
email: mag...@therning.org   jabber: mag...@therning.org
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10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0.
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