Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread David Kaylor
 Since he's doing it as part of his job, supposedly, then I really can't
 see any reason at all that they wouldn't open up port 22 to just to luna
 for him.



Yea, who knows. Like I said earlier, I do feel for the guy.


Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread Johannes Löthberg

On 20/06, Johannes Löthberg wrote:
I'm rather sure that he never actually said that maintaining the AUR 
package was part of his job, just avoided the question by saying that 
he worked on the software. (Though I'm too lazy to check now.)




Ah, seems I misread him, quoting 
cag22hqdefjnt9un6r8ai1iafzsbuqppginszfrj-tfrwjn2...@mail.gmail.com:



2. I currently maintain the ownCloud-beta-client package as part of my
involvement with that group.
This is done as part of my official duties in my corporate environment.


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Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 09:12:06AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 On 06/16/2015 09:24 AM, Alan Jenkins wrote:
   I
 understand why they block port 22 out bound and know it to be a common
 problem. It is blocked to stop employees accidentally or intentionally
 leaking important customer or business data. You can also use SSH to bypass
 security measures in place within the network and even create tunnels back
 into the network.
 
 Seriously I believe that [...]
 
 [...] I seriously dont believe that in 2015 security is port based...

Oh, you clearly have no clue about the extent of the madness of it all
:)

/M

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Re: [aur-general] Removal requests

2015-06-20 Thread Johannes Dewender
Am 20.06.2015 um 08:11 schrieb Karol Blazewicz:
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kdebase-konsole-xterm/
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/konsole2xterm/

 Are we OK with such ... packages?

On AUR 3 which will be overwritten with AUR 4? Yes.

The first one is also on AUR 4 and I added a deletion request at the
correct place (via web interface):
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-requests/2015-June/007548.html

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Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread Johannes Löthberg

On 18/06, David Kaylor wrote:


1. Yes, I do have network access outside of my corporate environment.
However, much (READ: all) of the project maintenance and code lives on and
is performed on my corporate servers.

2. I currently maintain the ownCloud-beta-client package as part of my
involvement with that group.
This is done as part of my official duties in my corporate environment.

My organization is also looking to begin sharing several large projects
within a few months.
Without another form of access, this would be technically impossible.

--
Thomas Swartz



I had been wondering if you were working on some packages in a work
capacity. Given that, I think it would be a shame to lock out this type of
contributor, even though there are probably just a few.


Since he's doing it as part of his job, supposedly, then I really can't 
see any reason at all that they wouldn't open up port 22 to just to luna 
for him.


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[aur-general] AUR mailing lists - Was: Removal requests

2015-06-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:02:03 +0200, Marcel Korpel wrote:
* Ralf Mardorf (Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:53:52 +0200):
 IMO in this case the mailing list is the right place for this
 request

There is a separate mailing list for such discussions, which is
automatically filled with a request if one uses the 'File Request'
link. No reason to clutter aur-general with discussions about package
deletion anymore.

Johannes mail was received after I sent my mail. I wasn't aware of this
list.

aur-dev Arch User Repository (AUR) Development
aur-general Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)
aur-requestsPublic mailing list for AUR package
deletion/merge/orphan requests

There still is the question if any of this lists can be used to ask
usage questions regarding software provided by the AUR or if e.g. the
comments should or shouldn't be used for this purpose.

Regards,
Ralf

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That's a nice joke, sounds a little bit like an April Fools' joke :D.


Re: [aur-general] Removal requests

2015-06-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:11:26 +0200, Karol Blazewicz wrote:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kdebase-konsole-xterm/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/konsole2xterm/

Are we OK with such ... packages?

+1 to remove those packages, without doubt at least one of them should
be removed and IMO in this case the mailing list is the right place for
this request.


Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread Johannes Löthberg

On 20/06, David Kaylor wrote:


Do you have permission from your employer to user their infrastructure (eg:
computers, network) to work on contributions to ArchLinux?

If not, they *may* own the IP related to the PKGBUILDs, or any extra
scripts
you include (in most jurisdictions, if you write a 15 line script, it's
copyrighted automatically).
I suggest that you carefully study this, and similar scenarios.

So, if you have permission, asking for them to open SSH should be trivial.
If
not, then stop creating tainted contributions at work.



If you had bothered to read the entire thread, you should have noticed that
the OP has already answered this question.


I'm rather sure that he never actually said that maintaining the AUR 
package was part of his job, just avoided the question by saying that he 
worked on the software. (Though I'm too lazy to check now.)


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Re: [aur-general] Removal requests

2015-06-20 Thread Marcel Korpel
* Ralf Mardorf info.mard...@rocketmail.com (Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:53:52
+0200):
 +1 to remove those packages, without doubt at least one of them should
 be removed and IMO in this case the mailing list is the right place
 for this request.

There is a separate mailing list for such discussions, which is
automatically filled with a request if one uses the 'File Request' link.
No reason to clutter aur-general with discussions about package deletion
anymore.


[aur-general] Need help with some patching for my package (gcc44-multilib)

2015-06-20 Thread Giovanni Santini

Hello everybody,
I already wrote some days ago a message in this mailing list asking for 
help, but I noticed that email clients acted in weird ways (GMail on my 
Nexus and Thunderbird on my laptop acted in different ways for the same 
mail) so I'm writing you again.


I started to upload my packages to AUR4 and I tried to build them up in 
order to upload working packages...

After GCC 5.X, I am not able to build anymore my package 'gcc44-multilib'.
I had some problems in compiling (toplevel.c), that I fixed an hand-made 
patch, but then I have problems in linking (double defines for the 
function I fixed with my patch)...


If someone could give me an hand fixing the package out, it would be 
really great.

AUR link: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gcc44-multilib/
AUR4 link: https://aur4.archlinux.org/packages/gcc44-multilib/
The edited PKGBUILD (including the new patch I made): 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4152736/gcc44-multilib_future.tar.gz
The patch I wrote: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4152736/gcc-fix_toplevel_defines.patch


If someone wants to help me, I can upload my source tarball (3rd link) 
to AUR4 so it can be fixed with Git.


Thank you for your attention.

--
Giovanni Santini
My blog: http://giovannisantini.tk
My code: https://github.com/ItachiSan


Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread David Kaylor
 I'm rather sure that he never actually said that maintaining the AUR
 package was part of his job, just avoided the question by saying that he
 worked on the software. (Though I'm too lazy to check now.)


I just double checked, and this is what he wrote:

2. I currently maintain the ownCloud-beta-client package as part of my
involvement with that group.
This is done as part of my official duties in my corporate environment.

My organization is also looking to begin sharing several large projects
within a few months.
Without another form of access, this would be technically impossible.

Which sounds to me like he was saying it is part of his job, or at least he
has explicit approval to work on it.

Why can't he get outbound SSH access to do this, if it is work related? Who
knows. But I sort of sympathize with him. Not blaming the AUR4 developer,
he has good reasons for the new design, as far as I know.

I do wish people would stop focusing on the OP's corporate network
policies, stupid as they may be, because it's just not relevant at this
point. I, for one, hope he can continue to contribute.


Re: [aur-general] Git over HTTPS

2015-06-20 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 06/16/2015 09:24 AM, Alan Jenkins wrote:

  I
understand why they block port 22 out bound and know it to be a common
problem. It is blocked to stop employees accidentally or intentionally
leaking important customer or business data. You can also use SSH to bypass
security measures in place within the network and even create tunnels back
into the network.

Seriously I believe that [...]


[...] I seriously dont believe that in 2015 security is port based...


[aur-general] Removal requests

2015-06-20 Thread Karol Blazewicz
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kdebase-konsole-xterm/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/konsole2xterm/

Are we OK with such ... packages?