Re: [aur-general] Found a spam account; please delete crystal01

2018-10-31 Thread Robin Broda via aur-general
On 10/31/18 2:58 PM, Andy Kluger via aur-general wrote:
> https://aur.archlinux.org/account/crystal01/comments
> 
> Please delete this user, it's obviously a spam account.
> 

Yup, done - thanks for the report.

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Re: [aur-general] About bullying in our community

2018-10-31 Thread Lukas Fleischer via aur-general
Dear community,

I am writing on behalf of the Arch Linux team.

Despite the initial radio silence, we have been talking about this
thread internally and we are still discussing the consequences.

We apologize for any emails and actions from our team which may have
been inappropriate or disrespectful. We are also sorry for not stepping
in publicly earlier but we tried to avoid making a drama out of this
with too many people joining in.

Moderation is off again, however, as Giancarlo mentioned, we do not
think any further comments on people's behavior on this list add any
value and we kindly ask you to focus your efforts on other stuff. We
will work it out internally. People make mistakes. We learn from it, try
to improve and move on.

Best regards,
Lukas


[aur-general] Found a spam account; please delete crystal01

2018-10-31 Thread Andy Kluger via aur-general
https://aur.archlinux.org/account/crystal01/comments

Please delete this user, it's obviously a spam account.


Re: [aur-general] About bullying in our community

2018-10-31 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via aur-general

Em outubro 31, 2018 7:03 Markus Schaaf via aur-general escreveu:


I don't want to impute bad intentions to you, but this behavioural
pattern might be a root of the problem. This isn't a technical
discussion. It's about social interactions and emotions. You can't just
weigh facts and find /the/ truth. It's widely believed that the best we
have come up with, to reach consensus in large communities, is voting.
An equivalent on a mailing list would be to show support through
iterating a position in one's own words. What you have written above is
like trying to cut off a protest march on the grounds that the first 20
protesters already made their point clear, so there would be no reason
for the next 2000 to reiterate it again.



This is a mail list with a specific purpose. I don't think equating this with
a protest is accurate.


This thread might make some people feel uncomfortable. But rightly so.
This is not only about some TUs employing a harsh and repellent style of
communication. This is also about the community of TUs letting this
happen for years.


I'm not uncomfortable with this *thread*. But there was no progress in the
discussion. Only ḿore piling on and ranting.



I don't. What makes you so confident? I do believe in man's ability to
change. But this often needs a bit of pressure.



What was happening on this thread was not pressure, was ranting and rumbling.
And public ranting and rumbling achieves no goal, at all. Except more ranting
and rumbling. I'm confident for reasons that do not need to be exposed on the
list.


(Don't forget that moderation means to arbitrate, not to censor.)



The list is now in emergency moderation.

Regard,
Giancarlo Razzolini

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Re: [aur-general] Email Reset

2018-10-31 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 10/31/18 5:52 AM, pellert...@firemail.cc wrote:
> I need help reseting my email address on my AUR account.  Recently lost
> my old email address password so I've been migrating everything.  I have
> the ssh keys for my account if proof is needed.
> 
> - Parker

Hi, so we can in fact do this since ssh keys can be used to
cryptographically sign files.

Please respond via private email with the following information:

A plaintext file containing your AUR username, and your desired reset
password.
A signature file generated via the following command:

openssl pkeyutl -sign -inkey ~/.ssh/my_aur_ssh_private_key -in
the_plaintext_file > the_plaintext_file.sig

Then I will verify this signature via the public key in your AUR
profile, and change your password for you.

-- 
Eli Schwartz
Bug Wrangler and Trusted User



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Re: [aur-general] About bullying in our community

2018-10-31 Thread Markus Schaaf via aur-general
Am 30.10.18 um 21:48 schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini via aur-general:
> Em outubro 30, 2018 16:07 Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
>> Apparently this TU has got special rights. That he could behave like
>> this again and again does strengthen him to continue doing it.
>>
> This thread has lived much longer than it's purpose. Let's stop this
> right now.
> 
> I'm placing this list into emergency moderation if this continues.

I don't want to impute bad intentions to you, but this behavioural
pattern might be a root of the problem. This isn't a technical
discussion. It's about social interactions and emotions. You can't just
weigh facts and find /the/ truth. It's widely believed that the best we
have come up with, to reach consensus in large communities, is voting.
An equivalent on a mailing list would be to show support through
iterating a position in one's own words. What you have written above is
like trying to cut off a protest march on the grounds that the first 20
protesters already made their point clear, so there would be no reason
for the next 2000 to reiterate it again.

This thread might make some people feel uncomfortable. But rightly so.
This is not only about some TUs employing a harsh and repellent style of
communication. This is also about the community of TUs letting this
happen for years.

> I'm confident all the parties understood what happened by now and how
> to avoid this in the future.

I don't. What makes you so confident? I do believe in man's ability to
change. But this often needs a bit of pressure.

(Don't forget that moderation means to arbitrate, not to censor.)

Best regards


[aur-general] Email Reset

2018-10-31 Thread pellertson
I need help reseting my email address on my AUR account.  Recently lost 
my old email address password so I've been migrating everything.  I have 
the ssh keys for my account if proof is needed.


- Parker