Re: [aur-general] forgot password

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 09:40:27PM +0800, Yi Qingliang 
 wrote:
> sorry, I input the wrong email address, it should be
> niqingliang2...@tom.com,  not gmail.com.

I cannot find an AUR account for this address either. I suggest that you
try registering a new account with either of the two addresses.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] forgot password

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 01:46:34PM +0800, Yi Qingliang via aur-general 
 wrote:
> Hello, I have forgot the password, can't login on aur.archlinux.org,
> after fill email, it said:

It appears that there is no account with the email address you used to
post here. Have you tried registering a new account?

If you are sure that you have an account, do you know it's username?

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] unsubscription issues (was: TU resignation - Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ))

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:46:48PM +0200, Adam Maram via aur-general 
 wrote:
> I can't leave this mailing list, I'm putting my address on the website, and
> I don't receive confirmation of resignation emails :(

Please contact the respective -owner address of the list with such
issues. In this case that is aur-general-ow...@archlinux.org.

It appears that you are not currently subscribed with the email address
that you sent you mail from. Have you managed to unsubscribe in the
meantime? If not, I suggest that you view the headers of the mails you
receive from the list and look for a "Received" header that contains
your email address. If you cannot find it, feel free to send a copy of
all the headers (not only the Received headers, but really everything)
to -owner.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] Retiring as a Trusted User

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

Not sure why this wasn't signed, but this mail should be.

On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 11:10:59AM +0200, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public 
 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I no longer have the time necessary to properly handle actual TU duties
> so I am retiring my TU hat. I will still continue maintaining some
> packages I have in [community] via my developer hat.
> 
> That said, I'd like to orphan some of them too. If anyone is interested
> in taking over one of these packages (and its dependencies), please feel
> free to adopt it and tell me so that I can orphan it.
> 
> asciidoc
> filezilla libfilezilla
> gcolor2
> gmrun
> obconf
> openbox
> openshot libopenshot libopenshot-audio
> pydf
> slock
> tipp10
> vimpager
> xplc
> zim
> 
> Florian


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[aur-general] Retiring as a Trusted User

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

Hi,

I no longer have the time necessary to properly handle actual TU duties
so I am retiring my TU hat. I will still continue maintaining some
packages I have in [community] via my developer hat.

That said, I'd like to orphan some of them too. If anyone is interested
in taking over one of these packages (and its dependencies), please feel
free to adopt it and tell me so that I can orphan it.

asciidoc
filezilla libfilezilla
gcolor2
gmrun
obconf
openbox
openshot libopenshot libopenshot-audio
pydf
slock
tipp10
vimpager
xplc
zim

Florian

Re: [aur-general] AUR rate limiting

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 04:41:28PM +0800, hagar  wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with creating a pertner file to the packages file
> that has the pkgname, provides, description and git address in it.

Not sure what 'pertner' is supposed to mean, but I'd say sure, we could
offer a database dump. It's just that someone would have to check which
information people need and write a patch for that.

It's probably fine to dump all the info that you'd normally get
from and RPC search request into a file. A really quick calculation
tells me that this file would be around 20-30MiB (RPC search for 'perl',
~900KiB response with nearly 2k packages, 900*25 = 23MiB).

If someone wants to work on a patch for that, please feel free. If you
want, I can also provide some feedback on the patch in addition to what
you get on aur-dev. Also please talk to Lukas to check if he is ok with
the general idea of this before you spend too much time on it.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] AUR rate limiting

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 11:02:31PM +0200, Jerome Leclanche  
wrote:
> That should probably be fixed as well, but I agree with making the rate
> limit window 1 hour, at most. A 24 hour API restriction on the AUR API is
> really nasty imo.

So is running cower -u in conky every 5 seconds and not even knowing
that this may send 50 requests per seconds on average because you have
so many packages installed. The limit is there to show people that there
is something wrong with their API usage and if the window is too small
they'll never notice.

We have resolved this particular issue for now though via a temporary
reset of the limit. For the future I think the way to go is to implement
configurable limits for certain subnets so that we can raise them to a
suitable value. If someone wants to write a patch for this that would be
very welcome.

My initial idea is that a simple db table with the limits for each
subnet should be enough I think. We don't (yet) need a webui for
maintaining it. The tricky part is probably figuring out which limit
shall apply to which IP. Since the AUR supports mysql and sqlite, any
code has to work with both.

If anyone wants to implement this, feel free to talk to me via mail or
on IRC.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] AUR package metadata dump

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 05:35:28PM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov  
wrote:
> - Much less load on the server.
> 
>   I've looked through API code and it does an extra SQL query per a
>   package to get extended data such as dependencies and licenses, which
>   consists of multiple unions and joins involving 10 tables. That looks
>   extremely heavy, and getting a dump through API is equivalent to
>   issuing this heavy query 53k times (e.g. for each package).

Actually the database load of the current API is so low (possibly due to
the mysql query cache) that we failed to measure a difference when we
put it behind a 10 minute cache via nginx. The most noticeable effect of
API requests is the size of the log file. Well, and then, I am on
principle against runaway scripts that generate unnecessary requests.
The log file that filled up the disk was the primary trigger to look
into this though.

My idea is to either generate the results on demand or cache them in the
code. If cached in the code, there would be no database load. It would
just pass through the code so we can perform rate limiting. Granted, if
we can implemented the rate limit in nginx (see below) that would be
essentially the same and fine too. Then we/you could indeed just dump it
to a file and serve that.

> I don't think that the existence of the dump will encourage clients
> which don't need ALL the data as it's still heavier to download and
> decompress - doing that every X seconds will create noticeable load
> on the clients asking to redo it in a proper way.

You'll be amazed what ideas people come up with and what they don't
notice. Someone once though that it would be a good idea to have a
script that regularly (I think daily) fetches a sorted mirror list from
our web site and then reuses that without modification. Obviously if
many people use that solution and all use the same sort order, which was
intended by the script author, they all have the same mirror in the
first line and thus that mirror becomes overloaded quite quickly.

> It can also still be rate limited (separately from API, and probably with
> much lower rate, e.g. 4 RPH looks reasonable) - I see aur.archlinux.org
> uses nginx, and it supports such rate limiting pretty well.

How would you configure a limit of 4/hour? Last time I checked nginx
only supported limits per second and per minute and no arbitrary time
frame nor non-integer values. This still seems to be the case after a
quick check in the documentation[1]. Thus, the lowest limit that I could
configure is 1/m, but that's something totally different from what I/we
want. If you have a solution to configure arbitrary limits directly in
nginx I'd love to know about it.

[1]
http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_limit_req_module.html#limit_req_zone

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] AUR package metadata dump

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 09:25:02PM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov  
wrote:
> The way Repology currently fetches AUR package data is as follows:
> - fetch https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.gz
> - split packages into 100 item packs
> - fetch JSON data for packages in each pack from 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/rpc/?v=5=info[]=
> 
> While fetching data from API, Repology does a 1 second pause between
> requests to not create excess load on the server, but there are still
> frequent 429 errors. I've tried 2 second delays, but the 429s are still
> there, and fetch time increases dramatically as we have to do more than
> 500 requests. Probably API is loaded by other clients as well.

The rate limit allows 4000 API requests per source IP in a 24 hour
window. It does not matter which type of request you send or how many
packages you request information for. Spreading out requests is still
appreciated, but it mostly won't influence your rate limit.

The packages.gz file currently contains around 53000 packages. If you
split those into packs of 100 each and then perform a single API request
for each pack to fetch all the details, you end up with roughly 530
requests. Given you hit the limit, you probably check multiple times
each day, correct? I'd suggest to spread the checks over a 6 hour period
or longer. This should keep you well below the limit.

> I suggest to implement a regularly updated JSON dump of information
> on all packages and make it available for the site, like packages.gz is.
> The content should be similar to what 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/rpc/?v=5=info
> would return for all packages at once.
>
> This will eliminate the need to access the API and generate load
> on it, simplify and speed up fetching dramatically for both Repology
> and possible other clients.

It may also generate much more network traffic since the problem that
prompted the creation of the rate limit was that people ran update check
scripts every 5 or 10 seconds via conky. Some of those resulted in up to
40 millions of requests on a single day due to inefficient clients and a
huge number of checked packages. I'm somewhat worried that a central
dump may just invite people to write clients that fetch it and then we
start this whole thing again. Granted, it's only a single request per
check, but the response is likely quite big. Maybe the best way to do
this is to actually implement it as an API call and thus share the rate
limit with the rest of the API to prevent abuse.

Apart from all that, I'd suggest that you propose the idea (or a patch)
on the aur-dev mailing list, assuming that there isn't a huge discussion
about it here first.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] TU application -- Santiago Torres-Arias

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Sun 22.07.18 - 15:35, Santiago Torres-Arias via aur-general wrote:
> - Orphaned packages (I'm a regular user of these):
> - netctl (?! currently on core, so I suspect I can't maintain this 
> one)


netctl is maintained by Jouke who maintains the netctl code. We only
build and push the package, but he handles all bugs because the PKGBUILD
we use is actually part of the netctl git repo, but since he isn't a
a normal dev he can't adopt it on archweb so it's listed as orphan.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] Build packages without Arch on pkgbuild.com

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 08.04.2018 05:01, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote:
> If you're really afraid of someone running as either your user, or some
> user with the power to hijack your SSH session, while you're trying to
> sign something, then they could just switch out your built files anyway.
> There's literally no solution there, except to build everything on your
> machine and not use soyuz at all. "clave" won't help either, because
> it's got the same fundamental problem of not actually being your trusted
> machine from beginning to end.

Yes, the built files may not be trustworthy if an attacker is present,
but the potential scope of this is limited to our package files.

The problem with agent forwarding is that people generally configure
their agent to cache passwords so they don't have to unlock their keys
all the time. With that in mind, an attacker can just request that the
agent signs something after the package has been signed and there won't
be any dialog popping up. That includes trust signatures on the
attacker's key or just messages to prove that they are someone else.

Also people might have more than one key in their agent. If you have gpg
and ssh keys in there, the attacker can just connect to other machines
by using your forwarded agent's ssh key. Also, again there probably
won't be a prompt since the password is usually cached.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Robin Broda

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 07.03.2018 23:29, Morten Linderud via aur-general wrote:
>> Please tell them to email complai...@archlinux.org
> 
> You are mistaken. The mail has been deprecated in favor of 
> /dev/n...@archlinux.org

That has been moved to devn...@archlinux.org because that's easier to
write on a phone.

Florian

PS: That address really exists. Not sure what you'd use it for, but it
just dumps mails to /dev/null.



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Re: [aur-general] Qutebrowser update

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 02.03.2018 12:26, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
> How are soyuz and pkgbuild.com related?  My login (ambrevar) is not
> listed on the latter, but I can connect to the former.

They are the same. You are probably looking at the website, but that
only lists people that have a ~/public_html directory, not all users.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Qutebrowser update

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 02.03.2018 12:19, Jerome Leclanche wrote:
> Florian can probably set you up if you don't already have access to it
> (pkgbuild.com).

soyuz is configured just like orion so you should be able to log in with
the same user/key. If it doesn't work drop me a private mail.

> But yes, that wiki page should probably mention it; it
> mentions orion.arch and repos.arch...

Feel free to add it wherever you think it fits best.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: faidoc

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 09.01.2018 14:07, Balló György via aur-general wrote:
> 1. His last commit in the [community] repository: 2017-01-08
> 2. He doesn't maintain any packages in AUR.
> 3. His last message to aur-general mailing list: 2016-03-05
> 4. Most of his packages were adopted by eschwartz.

The last time he voted in AUR was proposal 99 which started 2017-12-18.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Special Removal of an Inactive TU: speps

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 09.01.2018 14:06, Balló György via aur-general wrote:
> 1. His last commit in the [community] repository: 2017-01-03
> 2. He doesn't maintain any packages in AUR.
> 3. His last message to aur-general mailing list: 2014-03-02
> 4. Most of his packages were adopted by dvzrv.
The last time he voted in AUR was proposal 99 which started 2017-12-18.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Change of Password

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 06.12.2017 02:41, Brett M. Gilio wrote:
> My aur account, bmgxc9, had a change of password probably three weeks
> ago that I seemed to have misplaced. The email box that it was
> registered under, cont...@brettgilio.com is defunct and inaccessible at
> the moment.

Replied off-list.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU's invalid key on repos.archlinux.org

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 31.10.2017 07:51, Pierre Neidhardt via aur-general wrote:
> Err... Who is anybody? TUs cannot update Orion, or can they?

No, they can't, only some devs can. Here's a list of people with root
access[1].

I've refreshed the keys. If you still have problems feel free to ping me.

[1]
https://git.archlinux.org/infrastructure.git/tree/group_vars/all/root_pubkeys.yml

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Morten Linderud

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 05.09.2017 14:07, Morten Linderud wrote:
> signoff[2] is a tool I have written that helps testers with signing off on
> packages they have installed from testing. It comes with neat auto-completions
> and enough commands that it should replace the signoff page. Several testers 
> are
> using this to signoff packages in the testing repositories.

I've once wrote something similar[1]. I haven't used it lately, but it
still seems to work. I could have probably done a better job at
promoting it.

Looking at your script, it's mostly the same, except you send a HEAD
request before fetching the signoff json. Since that json is probably
generated on demand, the HEAD request creates nearly equal load to a
normal one, minus actually sending and possibly compressing the json.
After all, the server needs to generate the page to know how long the
content is.

It's possible that archweb caches the generated json and my hunch is
wrong, but it might be worth looking at that.

What can really reduce load are the ETag and/or If-Modified-Since
headers, but I don't know if archweb supports those.

Also the get_packages function has a "tries" parameter that doesn't
appear to be used in any way.

[1] https://git.server-speed.net/users/flo/bin/tree/signoffs.pl

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Couldn't reset AUR password

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 08.07.2017 11:23, Vitaliy Berdinskikh via aur-general wrote:
> Login: ur6lad
> E-mail: @gmail.com (or maybe @archlinux.org.ua but
> archlinux.org.ua now is down)

I see multiple emails being successfully delivered to gmail. Please
check your spam folder.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Thore Bödecker

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 15.05.2017 14:04, Florian Pritz via aur-general wrote:
> The discussion period is now over. You can vote here:
> 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=92

Yes: 30
No: 3
Abstain: 9
Voted: 91.30%

Result: Accepted

Congrats and welcome to the team!

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Thore Bödecker

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 10.05.2017 13:51, Florian Pritz via aur-general wrote:
> On 10.05.2017 13:49, Thore Boedecker via aur-general wrote:
>> My name is Thore Bödecker (a.k.a. foxxx0, or just foxxx depending on
>> nick availability) and finally I have taken the time increase my
>> involvement with Arch Linux. I'm 26 years old now and living in small
>> town called Falkensee, near Berlin in Germany.
>> 
>> First of all thanks to Florian Pritz (Bluewind) who is sponsoring my
>> TU application.
> I confirm my sponsorship. Let the discussion begin!

The discussion period is now over. You can vote here:

https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=92

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Thore Bödecker

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 10.05.2017 13:49, Thore Boedecker via aur-general wrote:
> My name is Thore Bödecker (a.k.a. foxxx0, or just foxxx depending on
> nick availability) and finally I have taken the time increase my
> involvement with Arch Linux. I'm 26 years old now and living in small
> town called Falkensee, near Berlin in Germany.
> 
> First of all thanks to Florian Pritz (Bluewind) who is sponsoring my
> TU application.
I confirm my sponsorship. Let the discussion begin!

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Christian Rebischke

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 22.02.2017 15:53, Florian Pritz via aur-general wrote:
> You can cast your vote here: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=91

Yes: 37
No: 1
Abstain: 0
Voted: 84.44%

Result: Accepted

Congratulations Christian and welcome to the TU team :)

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Christian Rebischke

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 17.02.2017 15:26, Florian Pritz via aur-general wrote:
> On 17.02.2017 15:25, Christian Rebischke wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am Christian Rebischke (in the internet mostly known as 'shibumi') and
>> I would like to increase my work in the Arch Linux Community and become
>> Arch Linux TU. Thanks to Florian Pritz (bluewind) for being my sponsor.
> 
> I confirm my sponsorship. Let the discussion begin.

The discussion period is now over. There wasn't much discussion, but
I'll take that as a good sign and assume that everyone already knows
Christian.

You can cast your vote here: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=91

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application: Christian Rebischke

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 17.02.2017 15:25, Christian Rebischke wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I am Christian Rebischke (in the internet mostly known as 'shibumi') and
> I would like to increase my work in the Arch Linux Community and become
> Arch Linux TU. Thanks to Florian Pritz (bluewind) for being my sponsor.

I confirm my sponsorship. Let the discussion begin.

Florian




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Re: [aur-general] Stepping down as a TU

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 27.01.2017 12:48, Михаил Страшун wrote:
> For a while I have been maintaining packages related to D programming
> language, motivated by being involved with the upstream. As the latter
> has come to its end I feel it be would appropriate to revoke my TU
> access too - I don't think I will have much time for any other package
> maintenance outside of D realm.
> 
> Best luck and keep rocking!

Thanks for everything and good luck with your future endeavours!

I'll handle removal tomorrow.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Trusted User Application: Giancarlo Razzolini

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 21.10.2016 14:19, Giancarlo Razzolini via aur-general wrote:
> Em outubro 21, 2016 10:10 Levente Polyak escreveu:
>> 
>> Well I don't see why it shouldn't be but as long as it's the AUR most likely 
>> that won't be enforce anyway as there isn't even proper UID GID registry. 
>> 
> I don't plan on bringing memlockd to community, if I become a TU.

I feel like the goal should be that every AUR package is in a state that
allows it to be simply moved to community without requiring any changes.

Sadly, most of the time I want to move stuff I have to invest a couple
of hours/days into making sure it builds properly and follows our
(implicit?) standards. Like keeping users after removal, not including
tons of patches, using split packages only when necessary or depending
on all dependencies. It appears many people still build with plain
makepkg and without build chroots.

Also please keep in mind that AUR packages are influenced by each other.
If you have one package doing things a certain way and you only clean
them up when necessary, you'll have to clean them up every time. If
people get used to the way we want packages, moving could be much
simpler and every package you improve is a step in the right direction.

Florian




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Re: [aur-general] Typo in email

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:45:18 PM CEST Kwang Moo Yi via aur-general 
wrote:
> I hope this is the correct place to ask for help. I made a typo in my
> account's e-mail

I've corrected this since this request looks legit. The account has only been 
registered today and the typo was in the domain mgila.com vs gmail.com.

Florian

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Re: [aur-general] Trusted User application

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 23.07.2016 20:58, keenerd via aur-general wrote:
> On 7/23/16, Nicola Squartini via aur-general  
> wrote:
>> in fact, back in May I posted a patch for namcap
>> https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-projects/2016-May/004346.html
> 
> Sorry I missed that one.  That chunk of code was refactored (no more
> shelling out to readelf) so I've updated and applied your patch.
> Thanks!

You may want to use patchwork[1]. If you don't have an account there
yet, I can give you one so you can mark patches as merged and keep the
list useful.

[1]
https://patchwork.archlinux.org/project/arch-projects/list/?q=%5Bnamcap%5D

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Perl-Moose dependency failure.

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 10.06.2016 21:59, John D Jones III via aur-general wrote:
> On 06/10/16 13:45, Florian Pritz via aur-general wrote:
>> On 10.06.2016 21:08, John D Jones III via aur-general wrote:
>> Any reason you don't just call it perl-list-utils? That way it could be
>> used to always get the most recent version of that distribution and not
>> just 1.45.
>>
>> Florian
>>
> Well, that's because the parent module, Scalar::List::Utils is marked as 
> a provides in the core repo perl pkgbuild, so it will error out saying 
> that the module is 'blacklisted' from AUR otherwise I'd be all over it.

Alright. For perl I'd actually prefer this solution given that core perl
has a dedicated directory (core_perl) vs. CPAN modules that go into
vendor_perl.

@Lukas: Could we have exceptions to the blacklist for any provides by perl?

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Perl-Moose dependency failure.

[Florian Pritz via aur-general]

On 10.06.2016 21:08, John D Jones III via aur-general wrote:
> I propose a temporary buttwag by 
> just creating a perl-list-utils145 PKGBUILD,

Any reason you don't just call it perl-list-utils? That way it could be
used to always get the most recent version of that distribution and not
just 1.45.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Standing down as Arch Lixnu TU

[Florian Pritz]

On 12.05.2016 13:42, Martin Wimpress wrote:
> It is with a heavy heart that I am informing you that I wish to stand down
> as an Arch Linux TU.

Sad to see you go. Good luck with your new job and debian though.

> How do we proceed with my resignation?

Actually that's all we need from your part, but it would be nice if you
could gpg sign the resignation. Just so we know it's really you.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Now there is real Spam in the AUR comments - Was: Misuse of AUR (yaourt) comments

[Florian Pritz]

On 12.02.2016 10:45, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Take a look at https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yaourt/ , some body
> add real spam to the comments and another user commented the spam:

Thanks for reporting this. It appears that this might be related to
Microsoft now also deciding to block the server running mailman, the
aur, bbs and wiki as a "spam source".

Do you happen to know if such spam comments have been posted around
February 6th or 7th?

Florian



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[aur-general] Yahoo mail problems (was No notification for out-of-date package)

[Florian Pritz]

On 14.01.2016 14:41, Florian Pritz wrote:
> On 13.01.2016 18:53, Giovanni 'ItachiSan' Santini wrote:
>> My package "telegram-desktop-bin-dev" was flagged as out of date on the
>> 10th of January but I received no mail notification about that.
> 
> It appears that yahoo has decided to "temporarily" reject all mails from
> that system (bbs, wiki, aur, mailing lists). I've sent an email to their
> postmaster and hope this will clear up soon.
> 
> Until then, I'm afraid yahoo users will not receive emails from our
> services. Sorry for the inconvenience.

We are still unable to deliver mails to yahoo and so far my email to
postmas...@yahoo.com has not received a reply. Can anyone put me in
touch with someone from yahoo or tell me if the postmaster address is
read (I kind of expect it to go to /dev/null)?

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] No notification for out-of-date package

[Florian Pritz]

On 13.01.2016 18:53, Giovanni 'ItachiSan' Santini wrote:
> My package "telegram-desktop-bin-dev" was flagged as out of date on the
> 10th of January but I received no mail notification about that.

It appears that yahoo has decided to "temporarily" reject all mails from
that system (bbs, wiki, aur, mailing lists). I've sent an email to their
postmaster and hope this will clear up soon.

Until then, I'm afraid yahoo users will not receive emails from our
services. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Florian



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Re: [aur-general] Python split packages and devtools

[Florian Pritz]

On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 17:03:54 +0100 Fabien Dubosson
 wrote:
> Someone pointed me out that
> because of my `make-depends`, people has to have both python2 and
> python3 installed to build only the desired version of the package, what
> is true.

So? They can remove the packages again after the build is complete
(makepkg -r or preferably use devtools) and it's not like this is a
another AUR package that requires like a 20 hour build and can only be
done on a machine with at least 42 cores and 5TB of ram. It just
requires a download and some more disk space which seems like a
perfectly fine tradeoff if the alternative is to maintain two PKGBUILDs
(one for each python version).

>   - It doesn't seem possible to put the make-depends inside the
> `pakages_()` function, isn't it?

Building only certain split packages is no longer supported since
commit e8deba3b87784ca14c9afc908046f36a3ad7578c. This will be part of
the next pacman version >=4.3 so even if it was possible this would be
pointless.


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Re: [aur-general] Arch general mailing list

[Florian Pritz]

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 09:48:39 +0200 Ralf Mardorf
 wrote:
> 2 mails I send to Arch general more then 12 hours ago didn't come
> through the list. I received no postmaster, no mailman and no moderator
> message. For testing purpose I resend one of those two mails a few
> minutes ago and it also didn't come through.

Please send me a list of Message-IDs of the mails that
are missing so I have something to look for. In most clients you should
be able to view the message source (Thunderbird and at least my
claws-mail have it bound to crtl+u) and then look for the Message-ID
header.

Also for kicks I'm sending this to arch-general myself. Let's see if it
works.

Florian


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Re: [aur-general] Blob size limit in AUR4 for custom kernels

[Florian Pritz]

On 24.05.2015 11:07, Nicolas Iooss wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am currently maintaining a Linux kernel with a custom configuration in
 AUR [1] and when I tried to migrate it to AUR4 today, git push failed
 with:
 
   remote: error: The following error occurred when parsing commit
   remote: error: 94ed5186e25ac1d459ae13d3ab0fbccc401ff225:
   remote: error: maximum blob size (100kB) exceeded
   remote: error: hook declined to update refs/heads/master
 
 Indeed, in base linux package [2], the files config and config.x86_64
 are larger than 100 kB (they are approx. 179 kB), so I need some kind of
 trick to be able to move to AUR4 (e.g. storing the kernel config on
 GitHub).  It may be the reason why no custom kernel has yet moved to
 AUR4 (I tried to find some from the results of a search with category
 kernels keywords linux [3] in AUR4 without any success).
 
 How are maintainers supposed to deal with such packages which are
 derived from official packages that contains files too big to fit AUR4
 requirements?

Lukas is away until June 1st.

I only learned about git namespaces yesterday and we didn't have time to
talk about them, but I believe they could greatly decrease used space in
our setup (currently each repo is stored separately I believe) and
therefore increase the limits. Sadly the code uses pygit2 quite a bit
and I don't know if it's possible to support namespaces there.

I guess for now you should wait until Lukas is back.



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Re: [aur-general] [aur-dev] aur-dev no longer uses port 2222 for SSH

[Florian Pritz]

On 21.05.2015 11:31, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
 If you are using the AUR 4.0.0 testing environment on
 aur-dev.archlinux.org, please note that we now use the default SSH port
 22 instead of . This means that you can drop the : part from
 your Git remote URIs or remove the Port  line from your local SSH
 configuration.

This also means that the host keys will be different. The new ones are
as follows:
 1024 SHA256:9Nqu9y1LhT3L3Kd6J9CSyuOc1AdGWo0eLsPxoc5bpaw (DSA)
 256 SHA256:L71Q91yHwmHPYYkJMDgj0xmUuw16qFOhJbBr1mzsiOI (ECDSA)
 256 SHA256:HQ03dn6EasJHNDlt51KpQpFkT3yBX83x7BoIkA1iv2k (ED25519)
 2048 SHA256:46zBSq5HRn6wvq5uTP90VTPoAMJcxZxKcDmid6bd8+k (RSA1)
 2048 SHA256:Ju+yWiMb/2O+gKQ9RJCDqvRg7l+Q95KFAeqM5sr6l2s (RSA)




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Re: [aur-general] [RFC] command in PKGBUILD to select archlinux mirror to download from

[Florian Pritz]

On 05.02.2015 17:34, Rafael Ferreira wrote:
 I'm look for a way to set the PKGBUILD's source=() to fetch file from
 archlinux repository without needing to set ftp.archlinux.org (which
 is throttled in 50Kb/s) or any other specific mirror (in order to
 avoid slow connection in distant geographic locations).

ftp.archlinux.org has been shut down by it's sponsor. The sources and
other directories are now available on https://sources.archlinux.org (no
ftp any more) which is not throttled and likely won't be.

sources.archlinux.org is currently hosted in Germany, but it has decent
bandwidth. You shouldn't worry about geographical locations for stuff
like this IMHO, but if you really do use mirror.kernel.org. They have
geobalancers and they mirror the sources and other directories.

Do you worry about geographical locations of other mirrors (as in the
project's upstream)?

 FYI, some PKGBUILDs in AUR need to fetch from archlinux repository,
 like lib32-pam, lib32-avahi, lib32-smbclient.

Repackaging i686 packages to multilib ones sounds wrong. We used to do
that before multilib, but it's really just a hack and it's highly
unlikely that it's really impossible to build a proper multilib package.

For kicks I took the [extra] avahi PKGBUILD, added some exports and
rm/mkdir/ln magic taken from lib32-openssl (or nearly any lib32 package
I created back when we introduced multilib), changed the deps and added
some --disable-foo flags to configure for stuff that's not needed in a
multilib environment.

Took around 10 minutes, the file list looks good and the libraries are
indeed 32bit. Granted, it does currently depend on lib32-qt4 and
lib32-gtk rather than optdep, but that's cosmetics.

Package and PKGBUILD here, feel free to clean it up some more (link
valid for 10 days):
https://paste.xinu.at/m-PKHfPF/

As for lib32-pam that only seems to pull the source tarball which, as
mentioned above, is now on https://sources.archlinux.org.

lib32-smbclient can likely also be built properly, but it has a few deps
and I'm not in the mood to build that much right now. Feel free to
consider it an exercise.

If you notice any more lib32 packages that repackage an i686 package
please tell the maintainer to build it properly. Thank you.



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Re: [aur-general] Freecad and deps moving to [community]

[Florian Pritz]

On 06.12.2014 15:08, Yichao Yu wrote:
 pivy is really a python2 library and I've been packaging the hg
 version as python2-pivy-hg in archlinuxcn. Shouldn't the pivy package
 be renamed to python2-pivy to follow the package naming convention?

Good catch, I'll change that.




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Re: [aur-general] TU application

[Florian Pritz]

On 31.10.2014 08:44, Andrea Scarpino wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Antonio Rojas nqn7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Arch Linux community,

  This is my application to become an Arch trusted user. My name is Antonio
 Rojas, I'm a mathematician and professor from Spain. Andrea Scarpino has
 kindly encouraged me to apply and agreed to sponsor my application.
 
 The discussion period is over, TUs let's vote!
 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=78
 

The vote is over:

Yes: 24
No: 2
Abstain: 1

Welcome to the TU team Antonio!



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Re: [aur-general] checksums

[Florian Pritz]

On 04.10.2014 12:54, stef204 wrote:
 To verify integrity, the author does not provide checksums but only a
 gpg .asc file.

Put the .asc file URL in the sources array and makepkg will verify it
automatically. This only works if the base filenames are the same
(foo.tar.gz and foo.tar.gz.asc), but that's likely the case anyway.

You can use shell expansion like so:
source=(http://example.com/foo.tar.gz{,.asc})



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Re: [aur-general] lists.archlinux.org mailing list memberships reminder

[Florian Pritz]

On 01.10.2014 09:09, Florian Bruhin wrote:
 * Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com [2014-10-01 08:51:35 +0200]:
 This is news to me. I never got this kind of stuff from this mailing list.
 
 This is a standard mailman message - maybe they changed the setting
 lately?

I moved mailman to a new server and it looks like the old one never ran
mailman cronjobs (the new one does). That said, yes it is a standard
message and it defaults to being enabled, but since nobody complained
before we've disabled it again for our lists.




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[aur-general] Mailing list posting style (was: Compiz package naming)

[Florian Pritz]

Hi,

Disclaimer: I'm trying to write this as friendly as possible, but I want
to get the point across so please excuse slightly harsh wording and the
length of the mail.

Please understand that this mail is directed to all list members, not
only those who participated in the thread on aur-general.


It happens every now and then, but this thread is probably one of the
worse ones. I know it's sometimes easy to forget, but a 16 level deep
quote with 420+ lines of quoted content and about 6 lines of original
content is not, by any stretch of imagination, okay.


Please do not quote the entire thread in every reply and do not reply
above the quote(s). A general rule of thumb is to quote only what's
necessary to understand the reply.

If you need context, please use bottom-posting or IMHO better yet
interleaved quoting[1] (I also suggest to read the entire page) and
limit your quote to as few lines as possible/necessary. Also feel free
to summarise the original mails or write your reply in such a way that
it can be understood without context which means that you can omit the
quote entirely.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

Please also be aware that some mail clients will add line breaks after
80 characters and original text is normally wrapped after ~72 which
means you get about 4 levels of quoting until text starts wrapping which
makes it very hard to read.

Generally, if your reply is shorter than the quoted message you might do
something wrong. If you quote the entire message you likely do something
wrong. If you quote the entire thread for 16 levels you *really* do
something very wrong, no exception here, sorry.


Also if you need any proof try to read this message[2] without reading
the original messages directly (only read the quotes in the linked
message). Note that the start of the thread is somewhere in the middle
(you can search for Hello AUR general  Compiz package maintainers)
thanks to top/bottom/interleaved quoting styles being mixed.

[2]
https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2014-August/029292.html


I'm also sending this to arch-general as a reminder because I've seen a
few topposters/fullquoters there as well.

Let's please all work together here so something like this doesn't
happen again. If you see this happening in a thread that you participate
in, please speak up (early) and make sure your own reply breaks the chain.

Thanks for your consideration,
Florian



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Re: [aur-general] New mailing list for AUR requests (delete, merge, orphan, ..)

[Florian Pritz]

On 27.06.2014 20:58, Stefan Husmann wrote:
 I think this is worth an announcement on the news page on archlinux.org.

Lukas told me the next AUR release is only a couple weeks away so I
guess we can hold off on a news until that's done and then tell people
to just use the new system.

Thanks for the idea though.



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Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] New mailing list for AUR requests (delete, merge, orphan, ..)

[Florian Pritz]

On 26.06.2014 08:43, Runiq wrote:
 Sorry for the noob question, but I hadn't found it on the aur-requests 
 overview page: Can I post to aur-requests list without subscribing? I 
 rarely have a request, and 99% of the traffic on aur-general was of no 
 concern to me.

I believe none of our lists allow posts from non-subscribers so this one
doesn't either.

Might make sense to change that, but right now we don't have a good spam
filter so there would likely be quite a lot of spam on the list. I plan
to set on up soonish.

Could you open a bug report on the tracker so I don't forget about this?



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Re: [aur-general] Registration Doesn't work

[Florian Pritz]

On 26.06.2014 05:36, John Robson wrote:
 I never received my first password and I tried to Reset my password
 (https://aur.archlinux.org/passreset/) several times but I received nothing.
 
 Please, someone can send this confirmation to me:  john.robson AT usp.br

I can't send you the mail, but I can tell you that the mail server for
usp.br blocks the mails. No idea why so, but I'll try to ask the postmaster.

I'll post here again if something happens.



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Re: [aur-general] Registration Doesn't work

[Florian Pritz]

On 26.06.2014 22:21, Jens Adam wrote:
 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:50:53 -0400
 John Robson john.rob...@usp.br:
 
 They need the Domain or IP of the Mail Server that is sending that
 message.
 
 And (maybe can help), what's the sender email?
 
 Well, look in your mail headers ...
 
 Host/IP is gerolde.archlinux.org (66.211.214.132) and the sender is
 $listname-boun...@archlinux.org

That's only correct for mailing lists. AUR mails are sent from
alderaan.archlinux.org.

Assuming they read postmas...@usp.br I can deal with this directly. They
really should be reading that (as should everyone else), but in my
experience if something goes wrong with email then postmaster is
normally not configured or not read. So far I haven't received a reply,
but I continue to have hope.



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[aur-general] New mailing list for AUR requests (delete, merge, orphan, ..)

[Florian Pritz]

Hi,

As requested by Lukas, I've created a new mailing list for AUR related
requests such as deletion, merge or orphan requests.

The AUR will soon feature a web interface to create such requests and
for history and discussion purposes mails will be sent to this new list.

Please start using it for new requests already (maybe wait a couple
hours so TUs can subscribe). Discussion about anything apart from such
requests should stay on aur-general.

You can subscribe here[1].

[1]: https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-requests

I expect traffic on aur-general to go down quite a lot due to this
change, so if you aren't subscribed because of this request traffic feel
free to give it another try now.



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Re: [aur-general] New mailing list for AUR requests (delete, merge, orphan, ..)

[Florian Pritz]

On 25.06.2014 23:37, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
 With this change, where should the PKGBUILD critique / review requests be 
 sent?

Those should stay on aur-general IMHO.



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Re: [aur-general] Perl update

[Florian Pritz]

On 04.06.2014 20:57, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 There still is the question, if AUR package maintainers will fix issues
 caused by the Perl update soon?
 [..]
 :: shutter: requires perl-pathtools

Get perl-cpanplus-dist-arch and use cpan2aur to create the package.



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Re: [aur-general] Perl update

[Florian Pritz]

On 04.06.2014 21:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  PS: Pardon that I ask, instead of simply testing it. Will the issues
   be fixed, if users simply rebuild the existing AUR packages that are
   affected?

The package depends on perl-pathtools so no. You could try removing the
dependency, but that will probably make the software not work due to a
missing module.



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Re: [aur-general] What stops more packages moving from AUR to Community?

[Florian Pritz]

On 26.05.2014 11:19, Steven Honeyman wrote:
 Reading the wiki, I got the impression that AUR packages with more
 than 10 votes would be considered worthy enough to move to the
 Community repo.

Package are only moved to community if a TU is interested in them. That
rule you read in the wiki means that if a TU is interested in moving a
package with less than 10 votes that might not be a good idea (pretty
much no users, possibly big package, lots of wasted space for nothing).
It doesn't mean that packages with 10 votes have to be moved.

If you want a package to go into the repo you can try asking TUs to move
it. Maybe some TU didn't know about it yet and grows to like it. Though,
if you do that, please don't spam.

Of course you could also try becoming a TU yourself and move them.



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Re: [aur-general] Forgotten AUR-Login

[Florian Pritz]

On 04.03.2014 00:23, Roman Titov wrote:
 Hello, guys.
 Shame on me, but I just completelly forgot my AUR-login.

Replied off-list




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Re: [aur-general] Voting results

[Florian Pritz]

Welcome to the team, looking forward to seeing you on IRC ;)



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Re: [aur-general] Can't receive an email after registered at AUR

[Florian Pritz]

On 12.02.2014 07:21, Jiaqi Yang wrote:
 Oh I did it and no responding

Looks like hotmail.com has the aur server on an internal blacklist. (550
SC-001 in case anyone is interested) It's not listed anywhere else.

I'll try to get us off... (could take a few days from what I read)



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Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

[Florian Pritz]

Thanks for all you did and all the best for whatever you do now.

PS: I've created a ticket for key revocation and disabled the ssh account.



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Re: [aur-general] Support for source mirror lists in PKGBUILD

[Florian Pritz]

On 31.10.2013 22:12, Ido Rosen wrote:
 Okay, that leaves either Jerome's suggestion (if duplicate filenames are
 detected, treat them as mirrors and don't fail/abort as long as one of them
 works);

I'd go with that. Doesn't add any new syntax and can be created easily
enough like this:

source=($pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz::{http://foo.com/blub/,http://somewhere.com/}$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz;)

Should be as simple as looping of the sources array after a fail and
checking if there is another matching filename:: element.

Care to submit a patch to pacman-dev?



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Re: [aur-general] Support for source mirror lists in PKGBUILD

[Florian Pritz]

On 31.10.2013 23:30, Ido Rosen wrote:
 If my first pacman patch is going to be this big of a change to
 makepkg.sh.in I'd feel a lot more comfortable if an existing pacman/makepkg
 dev were available off-list via email or IM for some brain-picking.  Any
 volunteers?

Got a poc for a rather simple way of implementing it, not sure if it's
going to be pretty enough.

I'll take a closer look tomorrow.

Feel free to ping me via irc, mail or jabber [1].

[1]: https://www.archlinux.org/developers/#bluewind



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Re: [aur-general] Which developer should be considered as TU?

[Florian Pritz]

On 28.09.2013 16:48, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 at 16:04:41, Balló György wrote:
 According to Trusted User Bylaws, TUs (and only TUs) must take part in
 votes. Therefore there should be a clear implementation like this:
 
 - Developers who want to take part in votes should set their account
 type to 'Trusted User' (or to a new 'Developer+Trusted User' type) in
 AUR, and they should be added to the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].
 
 - Developers who don't want to take part in votes should set their
 account type to 'Developer' in AUR, and they should be removed from
 the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].
 
 - Users with 'Developers' account type in AUR should not be allowed to vote.
 
 
 What is your opinion?
 
 Agreed. I will submit a patch to exclude developers from TU votes soon
 (not that I mistrust developers -- it just seems like the right thing to
 do).

I hope that patch also creates a TU+dev group because I consider
myself to be both and I'd love to be able to keep voting.




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[aur-general] Account removal for Daenyth (was: Special Removal of an Inactive TU: Daenyth)

[Florian Pritz]

Daenyth resigned on 27 Aug 2013 via Mail to Lukas with the subject Re :
TU Votes -- Reminder!. Apparently this has been missed so his accounts
are still marked TU in the bbs and archweb and he is still listed as
maintainer for 35 packages in archweb.

I've disabled his accounts on nymeria and brynhild, marked him past TU
in the wiki and removed the TU status on flyspray. Someone else please
take care of archweb and bbs.




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Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH] Voting Period

[Florian Pritz]

On 16.08.2013 11:00, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
 Also, I just wondered whether it is okay to accept a proposal before the
 voting period ends? Currently, there are 19 yes votes, 37 TUs and there
 is no way the number of TUs can increase until the end of the proposal.

No, people should be allowed to vote no if they feel the change is wrong
just for the sake of letting the others know. (IMHO)

I'm not sure if we have any rule about that though. In case you can't
find one assume we can't accept it before the end.



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[aur-general] Disowning packages from csgeek

[Florian Pritz]

Hi,

I've just disowned these packages since the last activity of the
maintainer was in 2011, there are lots of unaddressed issues in the
comments and a few are flagged out of date. Feel free to adopt.

activemq-cpp-library
eclipse-viplugin
git-bzr-ng
google-docs-fs
libmygpo-qt-git
twitlib-svn
python-ansi2html (I'm moving that to community)



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[aur-general] Adding some low voted packages to [community]

[Florian Pritz]

Hi,

I'd like to add the following packages (+ deps) to [community]:
smokeping, echoping,
spampd, mailgraph,
postfwd,
python-ansi2html (AUR package is out-of-date, I have a fixed one)

I use them, they are awesome and I don't want to have to check AUR for
updates, but they are all missing a few votes.

Could 3 TUs give me their +1? Thanks.

PS to the maintainers of those packages: I didn't yet contact you
because I'm not sure I can move them yet.



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Re: [aur-general] Adding some low voted packages to [community]

[Florian Pritz]

On 15.08.2013 22:45, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 22:09 +0200, Florian Pritz wrote:
 mailgraph
 
 $ yaourt -S mailgraph
 [snip]
 To start as a daemon put mailgraph in DAEMONS of your /etc/rc.conf
 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ mailgraph.pl --help
 [snip]
   -l, --logfile fmonitor logfile f instead of /var/log/syslog
   -t, --logtype tset logfile's type (default: syslog)
 [snip]
 
 Maybe you could change this defaults to fit to systemd.

Do you have any idea how that could work?

I've tried the following in a service file I wrote for myself, but all I
remember is that it didn't seems to process any logs.

 ExecStart=/bin/bash -c '/usr/bin/journalctl -af |
/usr/bin/mailgraph.pl -c -l -'

PS: Please make sure your mail client sets In-Reply-To and References
headers so mail threading works correctly.



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Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

[Florian Pritz]

On 08/10/2013 09:15 AM, Xyne wrote:
 In case anyone is wondering, the message seems to still be awaiting 
 moderation.

This list is not activly moderated afaik. I'm just letting through your
messages whenever you post about them so this discussion can go on. I'm
not going to do any more moderation apart from that.



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Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

[Florian Pritz]

On 07.08.2013 13:33, Xyne wrote:
 I find this annoying. I have heard on several occasions that a lot of relevant
 discussion as well as shit-talking takes place on that channel. Sometimes even
 important decisions are made there.

I like IRC because it allows you to decide on a basic direction. Of
course everything should still be sent to the mailing list for the real
discussion, but eliminating pointless stuff first seems like a good idea
to me.

Please point out when something has only been discussed on IRC and then
presented here as a final decision. This really shouldn't happen.




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Re: [aur-general] TU application

[Florian Pritz]

On 15.07.2013 22:31, Dicebot wrote:
 I have been using Arch Linux for last ~5 years but that does not really
 matter as I have never spent any considerable time maintaining packages.
 What does matter though is that I am quite active member of D community
 and familiar with minor details about its current infrastructure and
 have personal interest in improving user experience in that domain.

Having people maintain stuff they know and use is good. I'm sure you'll
pick up the important things to know about packaging quickly enough.



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Re: [aur-general] quoting (was: pacman 4.1 (makepkg 4.1) bazaar pkgver autobump problem)

[Florian Pritz]

On 05.04.2013 09:12, Stefan Husmann wrote:
 Am 04.04.2013 20:34, schrieb Maxime GAUDUIN:
 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Stefan Husmann
 stefan-husm...@t-online.dewrote:

 Am 04.04.2013 16:06, schrieb Alucryd:

   On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 09:52 -0400, Daniel Wallace wrote:

 Gary van der Merwe gary...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Thu 04 Apr 2013 15:41:27 SAST, Alucryd wrote:

 On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 15:26 +0200, Gary van der Merwe wrote:

Guys, please. Don't full quote 5 layers deep, that's an aweful lot of
unnecessary scrolling for each mail which. Try to quote as little as
possible while still making sure there is enough context for the reader
to understand what you are talking about. If they need more than 1 or 2
(partial) layers, they should really read the original mails.



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Re: [aur-general] Fighting spam on the AUR

[Florian Pritz]

On 14.03.2013 01:44, Xyne wrote:
 When flagged, comments and actions would be submitted to a queue that would be
 accessible to TUs via a webpage with accept/reject buttons for each action.

You could let other users which have already been whitelisted approve
actions. An action can require 3 approvals from normal users or one from
a TU so a spammer would require more than one whitelisted account to
work alone.

Once a new users has a few whitelisted actions they will also be
whitelisted.

Just ideas, not saying this is the way to go.



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Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky

[Florian Pritz]

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi All. 

Your signature is bad; gmail probably mangled something.

Please resend using GPG/MIME (at least enigmail with thunderbird,
claws-mail, kmail support it).



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Re: [aur-general] AUR Maintenance

[Florian Pritz]

On 28.02.2013 07:14, Connor Behan wrote:
 I was stupid enough not to make a backup so can someone with
 access please put this on nymeria? Thank-you.

I've put it in your home on nymeria. You're lucky SevenL didn't yet shut
down sigurd.




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Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Florian Pritz]

On 14.02.2013 06:40, Federico Cinelli wrote:
 For the past six months I've been working on getting more in-tune with the 
 forums.
 I've recently started answering posts on the forums and working with people 
 that
 request PKGBUILDs.

I found 6 bbs posts and 5 posts to the MLs all from this year. Not sure
what to think about that.

 My latest addition to the AUR evansi0n (used for jailbreaking iOS 6.x)
 was the last request I've answered from the forum. I also spend a majority of 
 my time
 on the IRC channel helping with live support.

Now that I like and from a quick look you were way more active over
there. Given Daniel and you talked quite a lot I'll assume you know what
you're doing.

 I've also began developing my own application which is an Automotive 
 Diagnostic Tool which
 uses OBD2 through USB to help bring bring the automotive industry into Linux. 

Is that open source and do you have a link to source and/or documentation?

 You can find a list of PKGBUILDs that I maintain here:
 - cinelli (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?SeB=mK=Cinelli)

Quite a lot of VCS packages there, but that's strictly not a bad thing.
Some packages still don't use package().

 Also, I would be interested in taking the following from the AUR into 
 [community]:
 [..]
 - velox (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/velox/)
 - evasi0n (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/evasi0n/)

Those don't have enough votes (yet)

evasi0n's PKGBUILD also exports LD_LIBRARY_PATH in package() without any
comment why you'd want to do that.




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Re: [aur-general] TU application

[Florian Pritz]

On 31.01.2013 05:38, Evangelos Foutras wrote:
 This means that Alexandre is now a TU!

Welcome and looking forward to seeing you on IRC :)




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Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Florian Pritz]

On 30.01.2013 21:09, Maxime Gauduin wrote:
 Well, I believe that's all I have to say. Thank you all in advance for
 considering my application. I hope to be able to learn more among all of
 you.

You didn't sign your mail, but you attached your public key in a file
called signature.asc.

Please either use a mail client that can properly send GPG/MIME signed
mails or sign the text using gpg -s --armor and attach that. gpg
--clearsign would be better, but I fear gmail might mangle the text so
better go with the armored attachment.

Let's wait for Sven's confirmation before any further discussion.



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Florian Pritz]

On 30.01.2013 23:00, Alucryd wrote:
 Sorry about that. I've configured evolution to sign outgoing mails. It
 should be good now.
 

Please also push your key to the keyservers. gpg --send-keys your key
id is enough.



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Re: [aur-general] [aur-dev] How can I Upload a new vesion of the vidyo package to AUR?

[Florian Pritz]

This belong to aur-general, aur-dev is only for development of the AUR
software itself.

On 17.01.2013 20:52, Fernando Monticelli wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Current vidyo (a CERN video conferencing tool) package in AUR doesn' t 
 work for me. But I found a hack here 
 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701083#c7) which makes 
 vidyo believes is running under ubuntu. That actually works. It s just 
 the package in that hack is an old version of Vidyo.
 
 So I made up a new PKGBUILD for the latest version of vidyo. This 
 PKGBUILD is a modification of the one currently in AUR 
 (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vidyo/) plus the hack I found.
 
 In any case, I can' t upload it to AUR because vidyo belongs to another 
 maintanier. How can I proceed? Should I ask the other maintainer to 
 modify his PKGBUILD?

Post a comment on the package's page and if the maintainer doesn't
react, send them a mail. If they still don't react, post on aur-general
so a TU can orphan the package.




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Re: [aur-general] Passsword and email forgotten

[Florian Pritz]

On 10.11.2012 10:51, Franck Michea wrote:
 2012/11/8 Franck Michea franck.mic...@gmail.com:
 2012/11/8 Florian Pritz bluew...@xinu.at:
 On 08.11.2012 22:39, Franck Michea wrote:
 My username is: kushou


 franck.mic...@gmail.fr


 Hmmm I don't think google ever did gmail.fr and confirmation email
 doesn't get to my .com (trying both .fr and .com). Was there any
 verification on the email 4/5 years ago? I may have filled that
 incorrectly and didn't notice if there wasn't :(

 Could you change that email to .com one?

 
 Ping?
 

I've changed it.

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Re: [aur-general] Passsword and email forgotten

[Florian Pritz]

On 08.11.2012 22:39, Franck Michea wrote:
 My username is: kushou


franck.mic...@gmail.fr


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Re: [aur-general] Is aur.archlinux.org down?

[Florian Pritz]

On 27.10.2012 14:04, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
 https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-dev/2012-October/002220.html
 
 Yes, that's very helpful note.
 
 I honestly wonder, why this motion hasn't been
 announced in https://www.archlinux.org/news/

That's not what's happening. It's just a broken hard disk.

We don't yet know when sigurd will be back online, stay calm and check
arch-dev-public for further updates.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Jonathan Steel

[Florian Pritz]

On 25.08.2012 23:48, Jonathan Steel wrote:
 I feel I do a good job staying on top of everything. I often check 
 through my packages to see if there are any updates

You should take a look at w3watch

 I use i686, x86_64 and arm architectures.

Are you using Arch ARM (I guess so, but better ask to be sure) or
something else?

 I'm good with BASH, sed, AWK and diff/patch and I have an interest to
 learn C, python and pearl.

perl[1] or PEARL[2]?

 Outside of Arch, I'm 27 and live in Buckinghamshire England. I work 
 at a school as an IT Manager, managing approximately 500 computers 
 and laptops, a VMware setup and approximately 1,100 users. I've 
 basically set up the current system single-handedly.

Any chance you'll switch those to Arch? :)

I'm not sure what software you're using at school, but here all we did
was learn how to type, use a webbrowser, write
text/spreadsheets/presentations, edit images, learn a bit of php, html
and c++. Tipp10, firefox, libreoffice, gimp and vim would have done just
fine and knowing that something like imagemagick + bash exists would
have been pretty awesome.

 Thank you for reading my application. At least I hope you can advise 
 where I can improve so I am a better applicant next time.

You don't really think you'll need a third try, do you?


[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEARL_%28programming_language%29

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Jonathan Steel

[Florian Pritz]

On 26.08.2012 12:20, Jonathan Steel wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:47:58AM +0200, Florian Pritz wrote:
 I'm not sure what software you're using at school
 
 Do you mean what I use or what is being used/taught in the classroom?

Yeah, but I just wanted to use that as an introduction for the rest of
the paragraph and make it clear that it might not apply to your use cases.

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Re: [aur-general] Dropping wvstreams/wvdial from [community]

[Florian Pritz]

On 11.08.2012 11:29, Florian Pritz wrote:
 wvstreams stopped building with gcc 4.7, upstream is dead for ~2 years
 now and gentoo's patches don't seem to fix stack magic checking properly.
 [..]
 Unless someone adopts wvstreams and wvdial I'll drop them to AUR next week.

I've fixed the bug and pushed packages to community, but I will still
drop it (maybe not as fast as I intended) unless someone takes over
since I don't like maintaining dead software.

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[aur-general] Dropping wvstreams/wvdial from [community]

[Florian Pritz]

wvstreams stopped building with gcc 4.7, upstream is dead for ~2 years
now and gentoo's patches don't seem to fix stack magic checking properly.

Current trunk (not pushed to the repos) gets me a different error than
the one reported[1], but it still fails after pppd has been started:
 wvdial: utils/wvtask.cc:304: static int WvTaskMan::yield(int): Assertion 
 `*current_task-stack_magic == 0x123678' failed.

Unless someone adopts wvstreams and wvdial I'll drop them to AUR next week.

[1]: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31096
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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Andrzej Giniewicz (giniu)

[Florian Pritz]

Congrats!

Looking forward to seeing you on irc :)

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Re: [aur-general] Multilib package [skype] marked out-of-date

[Florian Pritz]

On 14.05.2012 15:22, Arch Website Notification wrote:
  wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:
 
 
 * skype 2.2.0.35-3 [community] (i686): 
 https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/skype/
 * skype 2.2.0.35-3 [multilib] (x86_64): 
 https://www.archlinux.org/packages/multilib/x86_64/skype/
 
 
 The user provided the following additional text:
 
 New Version available 
 http://blogs.skype.com/garage/2012/05/skype_22_for_linux_hotfix.html
 
 http://download.skype.com/linux/skype_static-2.2.0.99.tar.bz2
 
 Maybe 2.2.0.35-3 is not affected, but even then, its not the latest version. 
 Please update :-)!

We are packaging the dynamically linked skype binary and if you read
that blog post skype even states that you don't need to update that
because .35 is the latest dynamically linked skype package.

The problem that has been fix in the static build is in libpng which we
package separately and that has already been updated, therefore our
skype package is fine.

Since this is the second time, I ask everyone not to flag skype out of
date again unless they really release a new dynamically linked package.

Thank you.


PS: The submitter of this OOD message has been BCC'ed.

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Re: [aur-general] TU application - ConnorBehan - results

[Florian Pritz]

On 27.04.2012 14:47, Sergej Pupykin wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 voting is closed. Results:
 Yes - 8
 No - 5
 Abstain - 8
 Total - 21

As already state by Ike, please follow the guidelines [1]. Looking
forward to seeing you on IRC.

Welcome to the team :)

[1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_AUR_TU_guidelines

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Re: [aur-general] TU application - ConnorBehan

[Florian Pritz]

On 14.04.2012 07:34, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:
 It will be great if you'll start using mail client with threading support.

There are References and In-Reply-To headers (in this mail, not the
previous), but they point to mail from mailman.

Do you get digests instead of separate mails?

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Re: [aur-general] TU application - ConnorBehan

[Florian Pritz]

On 14.04.2012 10:23, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:
 On 04/14/2012 10:19 AM, Florian Pritz wrote:
 On 14.04.2012 07:34, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:
 It will be great if you'll start using mail client with threading support.
 
 There are References and In-Reply-To headers (in this mail, not the
 previous), but they point to mail from mailman.
 
 Do you get digests instead of separate mails?
 
 True, I've checked mailman interface and it seems to be problem with my
 mail client. No, I get separated mails.

I meant if Connor gets digest, sorry for being unclear there.

No need to check your client, you won't have the mail the headers reference.

Mailman probably looks at the subject if it can't find the mail
mentioned in In-Reply-To and adds it as a direct child of the first one.
If you look closely you can see that it's not listed as a reply to Ike's
mail, but as a reply to Connor's first mail.

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Re: [aur-general] tu bylaws update proposal

[Florian Pritz]

On 13.04.2012 09:38, Ike Devolder wrote:
 This would also imply we can remove the eleventh point of:
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_AUR_TU_guidelines#TODO_list_for_new_Trusted_Users

Don't remove it, but replace it with something like Get your/a GPG key
signed by the master keys.


 attached the patch for https://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html

Looks like mailman removed it.

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Re: [aur-general] Forgotten username

[Florian Pritz]

On 08.04.2012 10:47, Philipp Kroos wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I can't remember the username I registered with in the aur...
 This is the email-address associated with it.
 Could an admin be so kind to drop me a mail with the name?

It's stump

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Re: [aur-general] Package removal request

[Florian Pritz]

On 13.03.2012 21:34, 小龙 陈 wrote:
 
 You pressed the reply button when viewing Thorsten's mail instead of
 creating a new mail. That creates a References header and clients will
 group those mails.
 
 I'm sorry, I won't do that again. Should I resend my email?   
   

Not necessary. I've removed all of those packages. Thanks for the list.

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For reference:
 Would someone mind removing the following packages? They
 are all maintained by me.
  
 Packages:
   [1] xorg-xinput-ubuntu
   [2] xorg-server-ubuntu
   [3] xf86-video-nouveau-ubuntu
   [4] xf86-video-intel-ubuntu
   [5] xf86-video-ati-ubuntu
   [6] xf86-input-synaptics-ubuntu
   [7] xf86-input-evdev-ubuntu
   [8] libxi-ubuntu
   [9] libxfixes-ubuntu
   [10] libx11-ubuntu
   [11] inputproto-ubuntu
   [12] fixesproto-ubuntu
   [13] utouch-geis-ubuntu
   [14] unity-lens-bliss
   [15] mtdev-ubuntu
   [16] bumblebee-thinkpad_w520_t520_t420 (horrible name, I know :P)
   [17] gnome-session-unity
  
 URL's:
   [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53709
   [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52184
   [3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53711
   [4] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53710
   [5] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53712
   [6] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52191
   [7] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52192
   [8] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52183
   [9] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56480
   [10] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56478
   [11] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52180
   [12] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56479
   [13] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52270
   [14] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53759
   [15] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52401
   [16] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51176
   [17] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52879
  
 Reasons:
   [1-12] XInput 2.2 is now in mainline Xorg, so the Ubuntu patches are no 
 longer needed.
   [13] Ubuntu's patches for utouch-geis are no longer needed. The upstream 
 utouch-geis compiles and runs perfectly now.
   [14] This is not developed upstream anymore and doesn't work with the 
 latest versions of Unity.
   [15] Ubuntu's patches are no longer needed.
   [16] Bumblebee has built-in methods of detecting the DSDT section that 
 turns off the discrete graphics card.
   [17] I uploaded this by accident.



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder - results

[Florian Pritz]

On 13.03.2012 19:23, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote:
 Hi TUs,
 
 The voting period for Ike Devolder has ended. Please welcome Ike as a TU :)

Congrats and hopefully see you soon in IRC.


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Re: [aur-general] Package removal request

[Florian Pritz]

On 13.03.2012 21:22, 小龙 陈 wrote:
 
 Hi TU's!
 Would someone mind removing the following packages? Theyare all maintained by 
 me.
 Packages:  [1] xorg-xinput-ubuntu  [2] xorg-server-ubuntu  [3] 
 xf86-video-nouveau-ubuntu  [4] xf86-video-intel-ubuntu  [5] 
 xf86-video-ati-ubuntu  [6] xf86-input-synaptics-ubuntu  [7] 
 xf86-input-evdev-ubuntu  [8] libxi-ubuntu  [9] libxfixes-ubuntu  [10] 
 libx11-ubuntu  [11] inputproto-ubuntu  [12] fixesproto-ubuntu  [13] 
 utouch-geis-ubuntu  [14] unity-lens-bliss  [15] mtdev-ubuntu  [16] 
 bumblebee-thinkpad_w520_t520_t420 (horrible name, I know :P)  [17] 
 gnome-session-unity
 URL's:  [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53709  [2] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52184  [3] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53711  [4] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53710  [5] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53712  [6] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52191  [7] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52192  [8] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52183  [9] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56480  [10] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56478  [11] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52180  [12] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56479  [13] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52270  [14] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=53759  [15] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52401  [16] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51176  [17] 
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52879
 Reasons:  [1-12] XInput 2.2 is now in mainline Xorg, so the Ubuntu patches 
 are no longer needed.  [13] Ubuntu's patches for utouch-geis are no longer 
 needed. The upstream utouch-geis compiles and runs perfectly now.  [14] This 
 is not developed upstream anymore and doesn't work with the latest versions 
 of Unity.  [15] Ubuntu's patches are no longer needed.  [16] Bumblebee has 
 built-in methods of detecting the DSDT section that turns off the discrete 
 graphics card.  [17] I uploaded this by accident.
 Thanks in advance!Xiao-Long Chen

Please use the enter key to make your mail more readable and also don't
hijack other threads. Start a new one.

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Re: [aur-general] Package removal request

[Florian Pritz]

On 13.03.2012 21:29, 小龙 陈 wrote:
 
 I'm sorry, I did press enter. I'm not sure why it doesn't show up like that. 
 Here's how the email was supposed to look like: http://paste.kde.org/439376/ 
 And I'm not sure how I hijacked a thread? I just sent an email to aur-general 
 @ archlinux.org asking for some packages to removed.  
   

You pressed the reply button when viewing Thorsten's mail instead of
creating a new mail. That creates a References header and clients will
group those mails.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

[Florian Pritz]

On 03.03.2012 21:02, Bjoern Lindig wrote:
 Hi Xyne,
 
 this is the noop listening your conversations ... 
 
 I too think that your PKGBUILDs look good. They're clean and
 well-structured. The only issue I see is the lack of variable
 quoting, e.g. I've seen this is many of them:
 
 make DESTDIR=${pkgdir} install
 
 That will not work if there is a space on the pkgdir path. For
 example:
 
 $ mkdir 'foo bar'
 $ foo='foo bar'
 $ cd ${foo}
 bash: cd: foo: No such file or directory
 
 I'd like to pick up the chance to clearify this for my personal record,
 because I had problem with the space in the pkgdir path. What do you
 suggest? Is this meant by variable quoting?
 
 $ cd ${foo}
 
 What would be a apropriate solution in the PKGBUILD? This?
 
 make DESTDIR=${pkgdir} install

quoting refers to the  or ' characters (that's called a double/single
quote).

cd $foo; is all you need

${foo} can be used in the case where your variable is named foo, but
you want to add something directly after it without a space:

foo=test
cd ${foo}bar - testbar

whereas:
cd $foobar will try to look for a variable called $foobar rather than
using $foo

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

[Florian Pritz]

On 01.03.2012 17:05, Ike Devolder wrote:
 1) Nowadays, your application should be a PGP-signed email. You
 should also somehow verify that you are who you say you are, for
 example, by uploading your PGP key or fingerprint to your server or
 github.
 
 
 i'll do this tonight, i have no access to my keys because i'm at
 work
 
 voila,
 
 fingerprint: 0xdb2277bcd500aa3825610bdddb323392796ca067
 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xDB2277BCD500AA3825610BDDDB323392796CA067op=vindexfingerprint=on

Please also switch to PGP/MIME so the signature isn't part of the mail
text, but rather an attachment.

In thunderbird/enigmail it's under account settings - opengpg security

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Re: [aur-general] [community] Up for adoption: cairo-compmgr, gadmin-samba

[Florian Pritz]

Dropped both to AUR.

On 18.02.2012 00:59, Cédric Girard wrote:
 Le 17 févr. 2012 20:51, Florian Pritz a écrit :
 

 - cairo-compmgr: upstream is pretty dead (hardly any commits in git nor
 recent releases) and it doesn't build right now because -ldl is missing
 from $(LIBS).

 
 If dropped to AUR, I may adopt it. I maintain the git version and it is
 quite straightforward to maintain. The missing libdl linking can be fixed
 easily as well.
 

If cairo-compmgr ever releases another working version, please use that
instead of pulling git checkouts (I just did that because it stopped
building and upstream applied a lot of patches to fix that)

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