Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: When did spamming AUR become contributing? It's not big deal to create one split PKGBUILD for each language provided by one upstream team. OP could at least comply to our warnings and tips before I threatened him. Until the AUR properly supports split packages, separate distinct packages should not be considered spam. If TU criticizes the decision taken after discussion on IRC then I think something has gone very wrong. =) Only a subset of TUs are on IRC and even fewer at any given moment. You cannot expect TUs to even be aware of all discussion that occurs there, let alone expect them to agree with it after the fact. Official discussion happens on this list, where all TUs (and users) can follow and participate. Regards, Xyne
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
Kwpolska wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. What did he do that you consider spamming? 88 packages are quite a lot. (src: OP’s original split PKGBUILD) When did contributing to the AUR become spamming? The packages are for separate languages and directly correspond to upstream. I do not consider that spam at all. If anything, it is a commendable effort to provide those packages despite the AURs inability to (fully) support split packages. If TUs now threaten users who contribute too much then I think something has gone very wrong.
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On 01/13/2013 03:52 PM, Xyne wrote: Kwpolska wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. What did he do that you consider spamming? 88 packages are quite a lot. (src: OP’s original split PKGBUILD) When did contributing to the AUR become spamming? The packages are for separate languages and directly correspond to upstream. I do not consider that spam at all. If anything, it is a commendable effort to provide those packages despite the AURs inability to (fully) support split packages. If TUs now threaten users who contribute too much then I think something has gone very wrong. I wonder if he also consider the libreoffice packages in the repos to be spam. -- Kindest Regards, Johannes Kyrias Löthberg Key ID: D84845F1 595C 8E08 DAE1 4A56 492C F750 BE76 C444 D848 45F1 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On 01/13/2013 03:52 PM, Xyne wrote: Kwpolska wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. What did he do that you consider spamming? 88 packages are quite a lot. (src: OP’s original split PKGBUILD) When did contributing to the AUR become spamming? The packages are for separate languages and directly correspond to upstream. I do not consider that spam at all. If anything, it is a commendable effort to provide those packages despite the AURs inability to (fully) support split packages. If TUs now threaten users who contribute too much then I think something has gone very wrong. When did spamming AUR become contributing? It's not big deal to create one split PKGBUILD for each language provided by one upstream team. OP could at least comply to our warnings and tips before I threatened him. If TU criticizes the decision taken after discussion on IRC then I think something has gone very wrong. =) -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski Arch Linux Trusted User http://archlinux.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On 01/13/2013 04:00 PM, Johannes Löthberg wrote: On 01/13/2013 03:52 PM, Xyne wrote: Kwpolska wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. What did he do that you consider spamming? 88 packages are quite a lot. (src: OP’s original split PKGBUILD) When did contributing to the AUR become spamming? The packages are for separate languages and directly correspond to upstream. I do not consider that spam at all. If anything, it is a commendable effort to provide those packages despite the AURs inability to (fully) support split packages. If TUs now threaten users who contribute too much then I think something has gone very wrong. I wonder if he also consider the libreoffice packages in the repos to be spam. I wonder if you have something constructive to say. -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski Arch Linux Trusted User http://archlinux.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
Looking forward, what would it take for AUR to support split packages? Are there any particular or known obstacles, if one were to try to write a patch? -- Sincerely, Alexander Rødseth xyproto / TU
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: Looking forward, what would it take for AUR to support split packages? Are there any particular or known obstacles, if one were to try to write a patch? PHP is one known obstacle. Bash parsing might be yet another one, but that shouldn’t be *too* hard to deal with. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: Looking forward, what would it take for AUR to support split packages? Are there any particular or known obstacles, if one were to try to write a patch? The relevant bug entry is FS#16394 [1]. Also the task it depends on, FS#15043, is quite important [2]. The basic issue is PKGBUILD parsing is really difficult to do. Take a look at the source for pkgsubmit.php [3]. In particular, lines 122-272 are representative of the craziness that takes place when the AUR currently tries to parse a PKGBUILD. IMHO, the only realistic way of ever including split packages in the AUR is the use of a source package metadata file. A dead easy to parse file within a source tarball that can give the AUR all the information it needs without all the bash parsing it currently attempts. I actually did a test a while back of such a file that the AUR could parse. It not only cut out a lot of cruft from the submission logic, but also fixed a few bugs and made split packages feasible. Just as a side note, a recent commit provides a more helpful error message when a user tries to submit a split package [4]. The particular PKGBUILD in the original post was crafted in a way so that error wasn't triggered and that cryptic message was printed. [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16394 [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15043 [3] https://projects.archlinux.org/aur.git/tree/web/html/pkgsubmit.php [4] https://projects.archlinux.org/aur.git/commit/?id=789245077d1ded7b2aaf4631bbca2a9267690739
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. What did he do that you consider spamming? 88 packages are quite a lot. (src: OP’s original split PKGBUILD) -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 04:19:56 PM Jorge Barroso wrote: Hello I'm making a package of iceweasel's translations with help of firefox' pkgbuild, but when I try to upload it aur throws an error that says Invalid name: only lowercase letters are allowed. What does that error exactly means? This is my pkgbuild http://pastebin.com/U37MwGri AUR do not support splitted packages. See [1] for more info. [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16394 -- Felix Yan Twitter: @felixonmars Wiki: http://felixc.at signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
2013/1/10 Jorge Barroso jorge.barroso...@gmail.com: 2013/1/10 Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com AUR do not support splitted packages. See [1] for more info. [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16394 So what can I do? :S Create one PKGBUILD for each package. I suggest a shell script to make this creation/maintainance task more automatic.
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 05:41:01 PM Jorge Barroso wrote: 2013/1/10 Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com AUR do not support splitted packages. See [1] for more info. [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16394 So what can I do? :S A workaround I saw is pkgname=yourpkgbase true pkgname=('one' 'two' 'three' ...) hope this helps :) -- Felix Yan Twitter: @felixonmars Wiki: http://felixc.at signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
2013/1/10 rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com Create one PKGBUILD for each package. I suggest a shell script to make this creation/maintainance task more automatic. 2013/1/10 Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com A workaround I saw is pkgname=yourpkgbase true pkgname=('one' 'two' 'three' ...) hope this helps :) I'll try what you said felix :D rafael I did so, but there was a TU (Barthalion) that removed all the packages and told me to make a split package, and also that he'll suspend my account if I do it again :S
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
2013/1/10 Jorge Barroso jorge.barroso...@gmail.com: 2013/1/10 rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com Create one PKGBUILD for each package. I suggest a shell script to make this creation/maintainance task more automatic. 2013/1/10 Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com A workaround I saw is pkgname=yourpkgbase true pkgname=('one' 'two' 'three' ...) hope this helps :) I'll try what you said felix :D rafael I did so, but there was a TU (Barthalion) that removed all the packages and told me to make a split package, and also that he'll suspend my account if I do it again :S ... and AUR don't support split packages. Awesome situation. In this case, better got with Felix's suggestion.
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
On 01/10/2013 06:18 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: 2013/1/10 Jorge Barroso jorge.barroso...@gmail.com: 2013/1/10 rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com Create one PKGBUILD for each package. I suggest a shell script to make this creation/maintainance task more automatic. 2013/1/10 Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com A workaround I saw is pkgname=yourpkgbase true pkgname=('one' 'two' 'three' ...) hope this helps :) I'll try what you said felix :D rafael I did so, but there was a TU (Barthalion) that removed all the packages and told me to make a split package, and also that he'll suspend my account if I do it again :S ... and AUR don't support split packages. Awesome situation. In this case, better got with Felix's suggestion. It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski Arch Linux Trusted User http://archlinux.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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2013/1/10 Bartłomiej Piotrowski b...@bpiotrowski.pl: On 01/10/2013 06:18 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: 2013/1/10 Jorge Barroso jorge.barroso...@gmail.com: 2013/1/10 rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com Create one PKGBUILD for each package. I suggest a shell script to make this creation/maintainance task more automatic. 2013/1/10 Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com A workaround I saw is pkgname=yourpkgbase true pkgname=('one' 'two' 'three' ...) hope this helps :) I'll try what you said felix :D rafael I did so, but there was a TU (Barthalion) that removed all the packages and told me to make a split package, and also that he'll suspend my account if I do it again :S ... and AUR don't support split packages. Awesome situation. In this case, better got with Felix's suggestion. It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski Arch Linux Trusted User http://archlinux.org/ I didn't said that I think your decision was wrong. Chill out. ;)
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
2013/1/10 Bartłomiej Piotrowski b...@bpiotrowski.pl It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. Ok Bartłomiej, it wasn't my intention to offend you, sorry, I was just describing my situation, and... yes, I've had no time until now, but I'm going to try and let's see what can I do. Although, I don't think I was spamming... but, you command...
Re: [aur-general] Only lower case letters?
Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: It doesn't support them directly, but many packagers use Felix' workaround. If you are going to spam AUR like Jorge did, I'll be in really wild mood, trust me. What did he do that you consider spamming?