Re: [aur-general] Which developer should be considered as TU?

2013-09-29 Thread Florian Pritz
On 28.09.2013 16:48, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 at 16:04:41, Balló György wrote:
>> According to Trusted User Bylaws, TUs (and only TUs) must take part in
>> votes. Therefore there should be a clear implementation like this:
>> 
>> - Developers who want to take part in votes should set their account
>> type to 'Trusted User' (or to a new 'Developer+Trusted User' type) in
>> AUR, and they should be added to the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].
>> 
>> - Developers who don't want to take part in votes should set their
>> account type to 'Developer' in AUR, and they should be removed from
>> the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].
>> 
>> - Users with 'Developers' account type in AUR should not be allowed to vote.
>> 
>> 
>> What is your opinion?
> 
> Agreed. I will submit a patch to exclude developers from TU votes soon
> (not that I mistrust developers -- it just seems like the right thing to
> do).

I hope that patch also creates a "TU+dev" group because I consider
myself to be both and I'd love to be able to keep voting.




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Re: [aur-general] Which developer should be considered as TU?

2013-09-28 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 at 16:04:41, Balló György wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Trusted Users list is a bit different between Archweb and AUR. It
> looks like it's unclear which developer is a TU also. This means that
> we don't know how many active TUs are there, therefore can't ensure
> that the quorum meets on each votes. There are four categories:

Just in case you didn't notice: The latest AUR release has a feature
that automatically tells you whether the quorum has been reached or not.

> [...]
> According to Trusted User Bylaws, TUs (and only TUs) must take part in
> votes. Therefore there should be a clear implementation like this:
> 
> - Developers who want to take part in votes should set their account
> type to 'Trusted User' (or to a new 'Developer+Trusted User' type) in
> AUR, and they should be added to the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].
> 
> - Developers who don't want to take part in votes should set their
> account type to 'Developer' in AUR, and they should be removed from
> the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].
> 
> - Users with 'Developers' account type in AUR should not be allowed to vote.
> 
> 
> What is your opinion?

Agreed. I will submit a patch to exclude developers from TU votes soon
(not that I mistrust developers -- it just seems like the right thing to
do).

> 
> 
> [1] https://www.archlinux.org/trustedusers/
> 
> --
> György Balló (City-busz)
> Trusted User


[aur-general] Which developer should be considered as TU?

2013-09-28 Thread Balló György
Hi,

The Trusted Users list is a bit different between Archweb and AUR. It
looks like it's unclear which developer is a TU also. This means that
we don't know how many active TUs are there, therefore can't ensure
that the quorum meets on each votes. There are four categories:

1. The following developers are listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], and their account type is 'Trusted User' in AUR:
- Bartłomiej Piotrowski (Barthalion)
- Evangelos Foutras (foutrelis)
- Laurent Carlier (lordheavy)
- Sven-Hendrik Haase (svenstaro)
- Thomas Dziedzic (td123)

2. The following developers are listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], but their account type is 'Developer' in AUR:
- Dave Reisner (falconindy)
- Florian Pritz (Bluewind)
- Jan Steffens (heftig)
- Ray Rashif (schivmeister)

3. The following developers are not listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], but their account type is 'Trusted User' in AUR:
- Ángel Velásquez (angvp)
- Gerardo Pozzi (djgera)

4. The following developer is not listed on Arch Linux Trusted Users
page[1], and his account type is 'Developer' in AUR, but still takes
part in votes:
- Ronald van Haren (pressh)


According to Trusted User Bylaws, TUs (and only TUs) must take part in
votes. Therefore there should be a clear implementation like this:

- Developers who want to take part in votes should set their account
type to 'Trusted User' (or to a new 'Developer+Trusted User' type) in
AUR, and they should be added to the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].

- Developers who don't want to take part in votes should set their
account type to 'Developer' in AUR, and they should be removed from
the Arch Linux Trusted Users page[1].

- Users with 'Developers' account type in AUR should not be allowed to vote.


What is your opinion?


[1] https://www.archlinux.org/trustedusers/

--
György Balló (City-busz)
Trusted User