Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-18 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi,

2013/7/17 Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com:
 Fair enough but I would not call Ralf a first-timer perhaps to the
 AUR list, but certainly not to Arch.

Good point, I only had this list in mind.

-- 
Sincerely,
  Alexander Rødseth
  xyproto / TU


Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-16 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
You should post this as a comment on the google-earth AUR pkg site
insted of sending it here. It will probably go unnoticed.



Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Newgard

 From: info.mard...@rocketmail.com
 To: aur-general@archlinux.org
 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:45:54 +0200
 Subject: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

 $ yaourt -Syua
 [snip]
 harmonyseq : Orphan
 jack-rack-git : Orphan
 pcsc-scl011 : Orphan
 virtualbox-ext-oracle: (ignoring package upgrade)
 Foreign packages: \ 63 / 63

 == Software upgrade (new version) :
 aur/google-earth 7.1.1.1871-1 - 7.1.1.1888-1
 [snip]
 - Found googleearth
 - Found google-earth-mimetypes.xml
 == ERROR: Integrity checks (md5) differ in size from the source array.
 == ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build google-earth.
 [snip]

 # Maintainer: Det
 # Contributors: 458italia, Madek, Berseker, Syr

And we care, why? The maintainer has been notified, what's the point of sending 
an email here?

Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:48 +0300, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
 You should post this as a comment on the google-earth AUR pkg site
 insted of sending it here. It will probably go unnoticed.

Thank you, I didn't know that, however, it already is reported by
others.

On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 07:50 -0500, Doug Newgard wrote:
 And we care, why? The maintainer has been notified, what's the point
 of sending an email here?

Arch Linux might be the only purpose in life for you, but it isn't for
me, so I have overlooked it, when I run the update and since this list
is described as This list is for [snip] the general public to discuss
issues surrounding [snip] the Arch User Repository (AUR). -
https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general , I send this
mail here.

Is this a serious issue for you? What does general public to discuss
mean?

Regards,
Ralf






Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-16 Thread Dave Reisner
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:09:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Hi :)
 
 On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:48 +0300, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
  You should post this as a comment on the google-earth AUR pkg site
  insted of sending it here. It will probably go unnoticed.
 
 Thank you, I didn't know that, however, it already is reported by
 others.
 
 On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 07:50 -0500, Doug Newgard wrote:
  And we care, why? The maintainer has been notified, what's the point
  of sending an email here?
 
 Arch Linux might be the only purpose in life for you, but it isn't for
 me, so I have overlooked it, when I run the update and since this list
 is described as This list is for [snip] the general public to discuss
 issues surrounding [snip] the Arch User Repository (AUR). -
 https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general , I send this
 mail here.

And yet your original post was merely output from your shell. You aren't
discussing anything at all, just being redundant in an inappropriate
forum with nothing of value to add.

 Is this a serious issue for you? What does general public to discuss
 mean?

It means *discussing* things like:

- removal/merging/orphan requests
- general operating procedures, best practices
- peer reviews on PKGBUILDs

Rarely, if ever, do people simply dump command output on aur-general and
expect anything to come of it. You're the minority.


Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-16 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Ralf Mardorf,

The full description is not general public to discuss but:

This list is for Trusted Users, Arch Linux developers, and the
general public to discuss issues surrounding the Trusted User
structure and the Arch User Repository (AUR).

It describes who and what, it's pretty clear.


Dave Reisner,

 Rarely, if ever, do people simply dump command output on aur-general and
 expect anything to come of it. You're the minority.

This is a logical fallacy and an appeal to popularity, this doesn't
make him wrong. As a first-timer, how could he know that posting what
he judged to be an issue, proved not to be an actual issue? It
certainly was about the Arch User Repository.

When applying some good will, I think it's clear that he thought he
posted to the right communication channel. Even though his post
contained no formal arguments, no single post can be a discussion in
itself.


-- 
Sincerely,
  Alexander Rødseth
  xyproto / TU


Re: [aur-general] google-earth - Integrity checks (md5) fail

2013-07-16 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rarely, if ever, do people simply dump command output on aur-general and
 expect anything to come of it. You're the minority.

 This is a logical fallacy and an appeal to popularity, this doesn't
 make him wrong. As a first-timer, how could he know that posting what
 he judged to be an issue, proved not to be an actual issue? It
 certainly was about the Arch User Repository.

 When applying some good will, I think it's clear that he thought he
 posted to the right communication channel. Even though his post
 contained no formal arguments, no single post can be a discussion in
 itself.

Fair enough but I would not call Ralf a first-timer perhaps to the
AUR list, but certainly not to Arch.