Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-23 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Please disregard my last e-mail. Wrong response to the wrong thread.

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Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-23 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi,


2014-07-22 22:09 GMT+02:00 David Phillips :
>>but it's a problem if it has indeed not been updated since 2002
>
> Simple question: why?

Simple answer: It's not. Not by itself.

The reasons lie in the parts I wrote that was snipped away. It is not
a problem in itself that the available files has not been updated
since 2002, but the sum of the earlier provided reasons were enough to
remove it from [community].

I can expand on the reasons:

* iat had to be updated, because of a TODO for rebuilding a whole
series of packages, that was created by another TU/dev.
* The rebuild of iat did not work, because the upstream files were gone.
* A search for the missing files and a look at the homepage (that is
missing) gave no result (but someone later found the missing files on
a dumping ground for dead projects, congratulations).
* No other packages depends on iat, so when it did not build and when
the needed files were missing, the decision to remove it from
[community] was easy.
* The decision was also influenced by the fact that it is a dead
project (no updates to the files for five years, no webpage, very low
likelyhood of problems being fixed or looked at if reported).
* Being related to physical media and CD-ROM technology did not help
(but was not mentioned in the original list of reasons).

I agree that a program or package isn't bad just because it's old, but
there were other reasons at play here.

Other TUs/devs may have other lines of reasoning. If any of you think
I'm being unreasonable here, I can ask for feedback on the process
(and any TU/dev are free to move iat back to [community] if they
should wish to do so, at any time). Anyone can sumbit "iat" to AUR if
they feel people are missing out here.


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Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-22 Thread Ido Rosen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM, David Phillips 
 wrote:

> >but it's a problem if it has indeed not been updated since 2002
>
> Simple question: why?
>

I second David's point!  Not all software needs updating.  This is a
simple, straightforward tool built on top of libraries that haven't changed
much in the last decade.


Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-22 Thread David Phillips
>but it's a problem if it has indeed not been updated since 2002

Simple question: why?

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Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-22 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi,

Good suggestion about sc, it could potentially be moved from AUR to
[community]. It seems useful enough, but it's a problem if it has
indeed not been updated since 2002. Perhaps there is a maintained fork
somewhere (or one could be created)? python2-mrjob also looks like a
good canidate, especially if it would support python 3 as well (I
could not see a "python-mrjob" package on AUR). It would also need a
few more votes.

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Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-20 Thread Ido Rosen
While that is the latest year it was released, AFAIK, it doesn't seem to
need maintenance, and is stable after several years of development.  Either
way, it's a good go-to CLI spreadsheet program and is included in several
other distros.


On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Sam Stuewe 
wrote:

> On 2014-07-20 16:31, Ido Rosen wrote:
>
>> Would it be possible to request that "sc" be promoted to [community] by
>> one
>> of you fine TUs?  It doesn't change very often at all and it's a pretty
>> handy tool.  Additionally, while we're at it, an unrelated but very cool
>> package, "python2-mrjob"? :-)
>>
> Is sc maintained anymore? I was under the impression that it actually
> hadn't been updated since 2002[1].
>
> [1] http://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/apps/financial/spreadsheet/!INDEX.html
>
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>


Re: [aur-general] move sc and python2-mrjob to [community]

2014-07-20 Thread Sam Stuewe

On 2014-07-20 16:31, Ido Rosen wrote:
Would it be possible to request that "sc" be promoted to [community] by 
one

of you fine TUs?  It doesn't change very often at all and it's a pretty
handy tool.  Additionally, while we're at it, an unrelated but very 
cool

package, "python2-mrjob"? :-)
Is sc maintained anymore? I was under the impression that it actually 
hadn't been updated since 2002[1].


[1] http://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/apps/financial/spreadsheet/!INDEX.html

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