RE: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!

2006-11-15 Thread Matthew Gage
And use the time to really learn how to navigate without the GPS.

Helps when:

GPS signal is bad
You select the "wrong" way point (makes retrieves interesting when you are
given a distance from the field and on track from XXX when really they were
on track from YYY !)

 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Mitchell Preston
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:13
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!
> 
> Congratulations to the KPS(&R)T. The Kooka looks grand. It's 
> great to see an example of mid-twentieth century 'cellulose 
> fibre' technology back in the air!
> 
> On another topic, my thanks to all who 'pitched in' regarding 
> my question on GPS units. The depth and breadth of replies 
> was truly impressive; there is certainly a large body of 
> knowledge lurking amongst the constituents of this forum. You 
> may all like to know I've decided to buy $500 worth of 
> launches instead just to make sure that I actually have the 
> skill to go XC soaring... ; )
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> 
> On 15/11/2006, at 9:04 AM, Caleb White wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Apologies for sending attachments (I've tried to keep them 
> small) but 
> > it's 'proud father' time. Yesterday morning Kookaburra GRZ 
> > successfully completed a 41 minute test flight at Bacchus Marsh; 
> > restored by the KPST after 15 YEARS IN STORAGE in WA.
> >
> > GRZ started life in December 1960 with the GCV before 
> migrating to WA 
> > where she flew with the CGWA, Goldfields Gliding Club and 
> many others.
> >
> > Many thanks to everyone who assisted with her 'paddock crossing'  
> > especially Don Woodward, Les and Ash Boyle, Alf Williams and Kevin 
> > Saunders.
> >
> > David and I look forward to many happy years of soaring in GRZ. If 
> > anyone would like more information or photos please don't 
> hesitate to 
> > email me.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Caleb
> >
> > Kookaburra Precision Soaring (and Restoring) Team
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > 
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[Aus-soaring] Wanted - Ventus b 16.6 left wing

2006-11-15 Thread fibremites

Hi,

If anyone knows of a spare/unused left wing lying around for a Ventus b 16.6
please let me know.

Thanks
Chris Kiehn
www.schempphirth.com



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[Aus-soaring] E: Audio voice Varios

2006-11-15 Thread nandrews
The Vega audio - voice vario was largely engineered here in Australia by a
very smart fellow down in Victoria who also flys gliders every chance he
gets so he tests a lot of the design himself. It has an output to drive a
needle slave, same as the B50 and B500 and Cambridge L nav etc - my Vega
drives my glide computer which has a needle display. The vario has some neat
features with the audio such as an averager callout of thermal strength as
well as a user definable audio tone selection - you can select b50 tones,
Cambridge , zander or create your own. The system uses the T.E , static and
has on board accelerometers, uses DSP processing techniques, software
updateable via an on board SD flash card ( pops out from the front )which
also doubles as an IGC download of the flarm files from your flarm device.
The audio also supports flarm messaging, undercarriage alerts and other user
defineable alerts as well as a stall warning system based on the OSTIF award
winning design developed a decade ago, requires a small static like port to
be drilled in the nose. You can download the manuals for this vario at our
website www.rf-developments.com go to the products page.

There are about 15 flying in Oz since April this year. You can also then
interface to a PDA or a dedicated glide computer such as the Altair with
colour moving map etc.

I also have another vario which is mainly my back up instead of a mechanical
designed and manufactured by Tasman instruments in Victoria ( see
www.tasmaninstruments.com.au ) I have used other varios before and this one
is as good as they get, uses latest technology sensors and can run off a
standby 9v battery and also designed in Victoria by another smart Victorian
- must be all that cold weather keeps them inside in winter designing
varios?



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Borgelt
Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:18 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] varios(was FLARM maths)

At 06:46 PM 14/11/2006, David Griffiths wrote:
>I am impressed
>I did not even know that this type of gear was available.
>Is this all prototype stuff or is it in production?

You might like to look at the B500 on our site at
www.borgeltinstruments.com
Australian designed and manufactured, sold worldwide.


Before getting too excited about varios without visual indicators 
people might like to consider how they decide whether to turn in a 
particular thermal that is encountered. The vario pointer isn't the 
only thing but I bet it is an important part of your decision. 
Relative netto was designed to help with this - see our website for 
details if you don't know what relative netto does(it is in articles).

Changing the audio at the MacCready setting as we do in the B500 and 
B50 lets you know to look at the vario but for reasons explained by 
John Cochrane in his paper and nearly 40 years ago by Anthony 
Edwards, you fly at Macready settings that are quite low compared to 
the actual rates of climb you get so you might not make the decision 
to turn just based on that audio change.

Likewise when picking a best path through the air,  particularly when 
streeting, including the vario pointer in your scan is important. To 
be really useful here the vario pointer should be high resolution 
too. We rejected LCDs on the grounds that the pointer resolution was 
too coarse.

When working very weak lift the speed of response and resolution of 
the vario itself becomes important. When working 5 knots at altitude 
a poor vario will do. When at 600 feet over a paddock trying to avoid 
an outlanding by working +/-0.5 knots you need all the help you can get.

With some vario technologies there are unavoidable speed of 
response/resolution tradeoffs.

Lastly, Total energy is total energy whether it is done by a probe 
providing suction below static pressure or whether you measure pitot 
and static pressures and add them electronically to provide the same 
thing. They both suffer from horizontal gust effects (see article on 
website) to the same extent but the pitot/static scheme has some 
additional problems - the pitot 

[Aus-soaring] Container space from Germany to Australia

2006-11-15 Thread Sadeq EL Maazouzi
Hi All,

My family and I migrated from Germany to Australia about 2 years ago. Now we 
are thinking about sending about 40 boxes etc.. from Munich/Germany to 
Brisbane/Australia. Is there someone who wants to share a container or provide 
some space?
We will be in Germany in December and january and hope to hear from someone 
sooon.

Kind regards

Sadeq



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Re: [Aus-soaring] varios(was FLARM maths)

2006-11-15 Thread Mike Borgelt

At 06:46 PM 14/11/2006, David Griffiths wrote:

I am impressed
I did not even know that this type of gear was available.
Is this all prototype stuff or is it in production?


You might like to look at the B500 on our site at
www.borgeltinstruments.com
Australian designed and manufactured, sold worldwide.


Before getting too excited about varios without visual indicators 
people might like to consider how they decide whether to turn in a 
particular thermal that is encountered. The vario pointer isn't the 
only thing but I bet it is an important part of your decision. 
Relative netto was designed to help with this - see our website for 
details if you don't know what relative netto does(it is in articles).


Changing the audio at the MacCready setting as we do in the B500 and 
B50 lets you know to look at the vario but for reasons explained by 
John Cochrane in his paper and nearly 40 years ago by Anthony 
Edwards, you fly at Macready settings that are quite low compared to 
the actual rates of climb you get so you might not make the decision 
to turn just based on that audio change.


Likewise when picking a best path through the air,  particularly when 
streeting, including the vario pointer in your scan is important. To 
be really useful here the vario pointer should be high resolution 
too. We rejected LCDs on the grounds that the pointer resolution was 
too coarse.


When working very weak lift the speed of response and resolution of 
the vario itself becomes important. When working 5 knots at altitude 
a poor vario will do. When at 600 feet over a paddock trying to avoid 
an outlanding by working +/-0.5 knots you need all the help you can get.


With some vario technologies there are unavoidable speed of 
response/resolution tradeoffs.


Lastly, Total energy is total energy whether it is done by a probe 
providing suction below static pressure or whether you measure pitot 
and static pressures and add them electronically to provide the same 
thing. They both suffer from horizontal gust effects (see article on 
website) to the same extent but the pitot/static scheme has some 
additional problems - the pitot and static ports are more sensitive 
to yaw and sideslip than the modern two hole TE probe is and you need 
to organise the pitot and static signals to arrive at the same time 
at the instrument to avoid undesirable transient effects.


Mike




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Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!

2006-11-15 Thread Mitchell Preston
Congratulations to the KPS(&R)T. The Kooka looks grand. It's great to  
see an example of mid-twentieth century 'cellulose fibre' technology  
back in the air!


On another topic, my thanks to all who 'pitched in' regarding my  
question on GPS units. The depth and breadth of replies was truly  
impressive; there is certainly a large body of knowledge lurking  
amongst the constituents of this forum. You may all like to know I've  
decided to buy $500 worth of launches instead just to make sure that  
I actually have the skill to go XC soaring... ; )


Mitch.


On 15/11/2006, at 9:04 AM, Caleb White wrote:


Hi All,

Apologies for sending attachments (I’ve tried to keep them small)  
but it's ‘proud father’ time. Yesterday morning Kookaburra GRZ  
successfully completed a 41 minute test flight at Bacchus Marsh;  
restored by the KPST after 15 YEARS IN STORAGE in WA.


GRZ started life in December 1960 with the GCV before migrating to  
WA where she flew with the CGWA, Goldfields Gliding Club and many  
others.


Many thanks to everyone who assisted with her ‘paddock crossing’  
especially Don Woodward, Les and Ash Boyle, Alf Williams and Kevin  
Saunders.


David and I look forward to many happy years of soaring in GRZ. If  
anyone would like more information or photos please don’t hesitate  
to email me.


Best Regards,

Caleb

Kookaburra Precision Soaring (and Restoring) Team






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Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!

2006-11-15 Thread Ben Jones

Caleb,

Looks good pretty different from the old paddock bomb that it used to be 
sitting on the trailer at GCWA,


congrats on the restoration.

regards

Ben
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From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:04 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!


Hi All,

Apologies for sending attachments (I’ve tried to keep them small) but it's 
‘proud father’ time. Yesterday morning Kookaburra GRZ successfully completed 
a 41 minute test flight at Bacchus Marsh; restored by the KPST after 15 
YEARS IN STORAGE in WA.


GRZ started life in December 1960 with the GCV before migrating to WA where 
she flew with the CGWA, Goldfields Gliding Club and many others.


Many thanks to everyone who assisted with her ‘paddock crossing’ especially 
Don Woodward, Les and Ash Boyle, Alf Williams and Kevin Saunders.


David and I look forward to many happy years of soaring in GRZ. If anyone 
would like more information or photos please don’t hesitate to email me.


Best Regards,

Caleb

Kookaburra Precision Soaring (and Restoring) Team











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Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!

2006-11-15 Thread john

Hi Caleb,
Great to see GRZ back in the air. I have been away from gliding for about 25 
years, and am just taking a new interest again. Upon seeing your email, I 
went back and checked an early log book, and low and behold, I flew GRZ on 
7/11/ 70 at Benalla with Mr Mac O'Mera. My father (Hugh Eddy)was a senior 
instructor with GCV for 20 odd years, up until March 75 when he was 
unfortunately killed in a Motor Faulke accident just near Lake Mokohan 
(Winton Swamp) I was involved with Dad at the GCVfor many years, and was 
bought up flying Kookaburra's. I have flown GPS,GPE,GPR,GRN,GPKGNM, and 
loved them all. Congratulations again on a job well done


Kindest Regards
John Eddy
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To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 


Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!


Well done Caleb nice to see classics flying again.
regards JR
- Original Message - 
From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra GRZ Test Flight!


Hi All,

Apologies for sending attachments (I’ve tried to keep them small) but it's
‘proud father’ time. Yesterday morning Kookaburra GRZ successfully completed
a 41 minute test flight at Bacchus Marsh; restored by the KPST after 15
YEARS IN STORAGE in WA.

GRZ started life in December 1960 with the GCV before migrating to WA where
she flew with the CGWA, Goldfields Gliding Club and many others.

Many thanks to everyone who assisted with her ‘paddock crossing’ especially
Don Woodward, Les and Ash Boyle, Alf Williams and Kevin Saunders.

David and I look forward to many happy years of soaring in GRZ. If anyone
would like more information or photos please don’t hesitate to email me.

Best Regards,

Caleb

Kookaburra Precision Soaring (and Restoring) Team












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