Re: [Aus-soaring] Concealing Aircraft Registration
As far as I can work out, you wouldn't have identified the owner/pilot from this accident by looking up the CASA site as it will still show the previous owners details, that have not been updated since the recent sale of the aircraft. PB - Original Message - From: Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Concealing Aircraft Registration Scott, not having a go at you but. Legal reasons or not is pile of B.S, What legal reason would that be ?? Just because a reg of a aircraft is open to any one who can punch in a CASA or GFA web page and search for a particular rego and get the particular details of the owner and most likely the pilot at the time of reporting of the accident, doesn't mean its a right to publish the rego of the aircraft in a photo. Lets assume I have a uncle who flew aircraft and this aircraft went in and was published no later than 1 hour after the incident as a news flash across my computer screen while looking at the ABC website, I click on the headline out of interest and see a pic of my uncles aircraft on the ground and caption pilot dies in crash Because of the crap reasons why they dont blank out rego's ( and with todays digital gear it aint that hard!! ) Now i just have been informed of my uncles death, via computer . gee dont you think this type of news should be delivered by friend and family not via the press. The above is only a example . My thought go out to the family of a fellow pilot. Ben - Original Message - From: Scott Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Concealing Aircraft Registration Your comment about privacy and sensitivity is taken a set further in the fact that anyone can source the aircraft register on line while motor vehicle registrations details are not available even on request due to Privacy Legislation in the ACT at least, and probably other states too. The potential for Road Rage revenge attacks has been used as one reason to justify this position. I am passing no judgement on if it should or should not be, but this is the reason they do not cover it up. Unlike car registration, aircraft registration is open and public. The press do not cover things up for sensitivity reasons, but for legal ones. Again, this is no judgement on if they should or not. Scott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Concealing Aircraft Registration
I came home one evening after work, watched the news to hear them say that the person that was taken from the water near the Gap (Sydney)this morning was xyz. This was my cousin, who I was very close to. My mother knew but wanted to tell me face-face. This was a long time ago before mobile phones etc. Nothing has changed in the many years. I had to face the press with a member of my club passing away in tragic circumstances last year. There are good press people and there are bad. I have seen them all in the space of that week. I think the GFA needs to prepare clubs better with Press Kits and facts so they can speak to the media. I know from experience that the objective is to keep the press away from the family. If you give them something they will be more happy and less harrassing of the family for the story. They have deadlines. /daveb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Jones Sent: Friday, 29 December 2006 6:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Concealing Aircraft Registration Scott, not having a go at you but. Legal reasons or not is pile of B.S, What legal reason would that be ?? Just because a reg of a aircraft is open to any one who can punch in a CASA or GFA web page and search for a particular rego and get the particular details of the owner and most likely the pilot at the time of reporting of the accident, doesn't mean its a right to publish the rego of the aircraft in a photo. Lets assume I have a uncle who flew aircraft and this aircraft went in and was published no later than 1 hour after the incident as a news flash across my computer screen while looking at the ABC website, I click on the headline out of interest and see a pic of my uncles aircraft on the ground and caption pilot dies in crash Because of the crap reasons why they dont blank out rego's ( and with todays digital gear it aint that hard!! ) Now i just have been informed of my uncles death, via computer . gee dont you think this type of news should be delivered by friend and family not via the press. The above is only a example . My thought go out to the family of a fellow pilot. Ben - Original Message - From: Scott Penrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Concealing Aircraft Registration Your comment about privacy and sensitivity is taken a set further in the fact that anyone can source the aircraft register on line while motor vehicle registrations details are not available even on request due to Privacy Legislation in the ACT at least, and probably other states too. The potential for Road Rage revenge attacks has been used as one reason to justify this position. I am passing no judgement on if it should or should not be, but this is the reason they do not cover it up. Unlike car registration, aircraft registration is open and public. The press do not cover things up for sensitivity reasons, but for legal ones. Again, this is no judgement on if they should or not. Scott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo /aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] media gliding
As Dave found below, my experience as well. It is very hard while close to the event to also give media the titbit they need, plus if possible some 'hook' that gives the reading public more than 'shock/horror/outrage/someone ought to stop these people for their own good'. On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:58:54 +1100, Dave Boulter -Internode Acct wrote: I had to face the press with a member of my club passing away in tragic circumstances last year. There are good press people and there are bad. I have seen them all in the space of that week. I think the GFA needs to prepare clubs better with Press Kits and facts so they can speak to the media. I know from experience that the objective is to keep the press away from the family. If you give them something they will be more happy and less harrassing of the family for the story. They have deadlines. /daveb ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
