Re: [Aus-soaring] Ian Downes
Hello Ian. I will try to cope with this. Is Downes an Irish name by any chance??? All the best from the Agean, Paul Mander _ From: IAN DOWNES [mailto:ianpkd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012 7:18 PM To: 'Allan Buttenshaw'; 'Amy Baddams'; 'Andrew Brumby'; 'Bill Gleeson-Barker'; 'Dave and Jenne Goldsmith'; 'Hatfield Vic & Lynne'; 'Ian Barraclough'; 'John & Sian Mackley'; 'john buchanan'; 'John Hoye'; 'John McCorquodale'; 'Nick Singer'; 'Nick Singer'; 'Peter Sheils'; 'Ross McLean'; 'Steve Hedley'; 'Todd Clark'; 'tom claffey'; 'Trevor West'; Ailsa McMillan; a...@iprimus.com.au; Crumbley, Alan; Alan Payne; alaric giles; Blanch, Alexender; Alf McMillan; All Members Group; Kersley, Allan; Kersley, Allan; Amanda Gaudion; amy.badd...@yahoo.com.au; Andrew and Tennille Rankmore; Andrew Brumby; Kennedy, Andrew; Ordish, Andrew; Andrew Rigby; Andrew Rigby; Carrigan, Andy; Anne Elliott; Annie Laylee; Atkinson; att...@bigpond.com; Aus soaring; Ben Brooks; Bernard Eckey; Bill Kennedy; Bill Gleeson-Barker; McKid, Bill; bill.gleeson-bar...@ce.com.au; Carter, Bob & Christine; Bob Barnett; Bob Hickman; Bob Sheehan; bookings-austra...@raileurope.fr; Smith, Brad; Deane, Bronwyn; Taylor, Bruce; Bryden Doug; carl.dow...@aafc.com.au; Chris Bowman; Chris Carr; cli...@melbpc.org.au; Klemm, Col; Taylor, Col; Colin Collum; Dave Shorter; Dave Turner; Cooke, David; Deane, David; MacPherson, David; Strang, David; Wilkie, David; Wilkie, David; Dennis Stacey; Dermot Coleman; deva...@lycos.com; Stacey, Di; Cameron, Dick; djshor...@gmail.com; Brown, Doug; Hawkins, Doug; Hawkins, Doug; Robinson, Frank; G Dale; Neely, Geoff; Geoff Sim; Geoffrey Sweeney; Gerald Ingham; Geraldine Clark; Gerhard Stuck; Graeme Cant; Graham Watts; Mackay, Greg; Fitzgerald, Guy; Johns, Hamish; Harry Medlicott; Stoneman, Harvey; Barraclough, Ian; Ian Downes; Ian Fleming; Ian Grant; Ian Mc Phee; Ian Salter; Ian Sawell; iandownes10; Imi Ordasi; Jacques & Cath; Hopkins, Jake; Barlow, James; Jay Anderson; jay.ander...@chambers.net.au; Jeff Everitt; Ganderton, Jenny; jennygander...@gmail.com; Jim and Trudy Kelly; Jim Kelly Personal; Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology; Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology; Jim Staniforth; Strang, Jock; Brigden, John; John Carr; John Clark; John Clark; John Clarke; Glynn, John; Sumner, John; Sumner, John; Toulmin, John; John Wakefield; John Walmsley; White, John; Middlebrook, Jono; Joy Bartrup; McKenzie, Judy; Juho Rossi; Baldwin, Kelly; Ken Flower; Ken Flower (Wk); Ford, Ken; Keech, Kevin; ksflower; Connelly, Laura; Lawrence Griffiths; Ivin, Leigh; LK Manager; LKSC Instructors; LKSC Officers group; lksc_booki...@optusnet.com.au; lksc_instruct...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; Lynda Smith; Mads Leth; Mal Bruce; Kefalidis, Mario; Forgione, Mark; Molloy, Mark; Thomas, Matt; Matthew Minter; max callingham; Meagan Borg; Downes, Meagan; Melissa Miller; Message Email Reply; Michael @ pif; Barnier, Michael; Bradford, Michael; Jonas, Michael; Kennedy, Michael; Punch, Michael; Michael Shirley; Mike Borgelt; m...@qualityavionics.com.au; Mt Beauty Hol Centre; myacco...@optus.com.au; Nick Hunt; Lee, Patrick; Bartlett, Paul; Paul Hughes; Paul Mander; McRae, Paul; Pawel Bartkowiak; Peter Draper; Jones, Peter; Peter Lennon; Middlebrook, Peter; Peter Summersby; Phil at Optus; Pilots Touring Guide; Cameron, Polly; presid...@keepitsoaring.com; Ray Tilley; Reply to Comment; rfcame...@bigpond.com.au; Heathcote, Richard; Lumsden, Richard; Richard Ogilvie; rick.g...@invensysrail.com; rob de Jarlais; Doyle, Rob; Rod Sutherlannd; Roger Druce; Miller, Roger; Neader, Roger; Rolf Schulze; Ron Fox; Taylor, Ryan; sam clift; Siobhan Browne; Sky Shop; Snowy; spei...@tpg.com.au; Spike Lee; stace...@cooee.com.au; Keliher, Stephen; Brown, Steve; Steve Jinks; Murray, Steve; Susan Flower; Susan Jonas; Terry CUBLEY; thomy1...@hotmail.com; Tim Carr; Tim Carr; Tom & Kerrie Claffey; Woolaston, Tom; Macbeth, Tony; Stacey, Trevor; Trudy Kelly - Kellwood Technology; Vic Hatfield; walsm...@ceinternet.com.au; English, Wayne; English, Wayne; Mathews, Wayne Subject: Ian Downes Good evening all I am changing email address from Optus to Telstra. My Optus address will remain until mid Aug. All of the above has different levels of interest to different people. Kind regards from Paradise aka Lake Keepit Soaring Club Ian ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Alternative to the OLC
The OLC is a great project and has done great things for gliding, but it costs us all money (paid for you by the GFA), and in return not a lot of flexibility nor new features have been developed. Skylines is an open source, community project, it costs no money to use, and anyone interested can join the project. Some innovative features this environment has produced already are: Compare multiple flights together: http://skylines.xcsoar.org/flights/4786,3399,4790,4789,4788,4787/ Live tracking - have your flight uploaded, scored and visible to your friends and family *as you fly it* Some potential features we've been talking about: Social networking (leave comments and ask questions about flights) Automatically generated thermal maps from flights throughout the world More advanced flight analysis, (like seeyou) Setup your own contests and have them scored automatically as pilots upload their flights. and much, much more. What you see at the moment is a very early beta, a result of just a couple of months of active development. It has many gaps at the moment, but you can help out for now by uploading your old and new flights to Skylines and by submitting feature ideas and bug reports. -Matthew On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Pam Kurstjens wrote: > Why would we need an alternative? I think there is great strength and > interest having worldwide flights in one place. > If you would like to see an alternative system, check out the BGA Ladder in > the UK: http://www.bgaladder.co.uk and click on 'daily scores' for example. > Yesterday, 39 flights in the UK were posted to this site, and only 5 of > those were posted to OLC. > People are regularly doing 750's and the rare 1000, which are incredible > flights given the size of the island, the airspace, and the weather, yet we > see few flights on the OLC so gliding in the UK goes largely unnoticed by > the worldwide gliding community. > Pam > > -Original Message- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter F > Bradshaw > Sent: Monday, 2 July 2012 9:51 PM > To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Alternative to the OLC > > Hi; > > There is an alternative to the OLC at: > > http://skylines.xcsoar.org/ > > IGC files may be uploaded and scored here. In addition it is planned to > implement a realtime tracking feature in conjunction with XCSoar (v6.4). > > Cheers > > -- > Peter F Bradshaw: http://www.exadios.com (public keys avaliable there). > Personal site: http://personal.exadios.com "I love truth, and the way the > government still uses it occasionally to keep us guessing." - Sam Kekovich. > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Alternative to the OLC
Why would we need an alternative? I think there is great strength and interest having worldwide flights in one place. If you would like to see an alternative system, check out the BGA Ladder in the UK: http://www.bgaladder.co.uk and click on 'daily scores' for example. Yesterday, 39 flights in the UK were posted to this site, and only 5 of those were posted to OLC. People are regularly doing 750's and the rare 1000, which are incredible flights given the size of the island, the airspace, and the weather, yet we see few flights on the OLC so gliding in the UK goes largely unnoticed by the worldwide gliding community. Pam -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter F Bradshaw Sent: Monday, 2 July 2012 9:51 PM To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Alternative to the OLC Hi; There is an alternative to the OLC at: http://skylines.xcsoar.org/ IGC files may be uploaded and scored here. In addition it is planned to implement a realtime tracking feature in conjunction with XCSoar (v6.4). Cheers -- Peter F Bradshaw: http://www.exadios.com (public keys avaliable there). Personal site: http://personal.exadios.com "I love truth, and the way the government still uses it occasionally to keep us guessing." - Sam Kekovich. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M Nationals
Hi Tom, Re Horsham Week dates: Think "Starts on the first Saturday in February" and you are 99% there! A quick glance at the calendar then gives you the dates: 2 February 2013 - 9 February 2013, inclusive. This calculation method has not changed in 40+ years! I totally agree that the Horsham Week clash last year was shockingly badly managed. Gary - Original Message - From: tom claffey To: tom claffey ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M Nationals Confirming dates : Tuesday 22Jan - Thursday 31Jan at Narromine. Could the organisers of Horsham week put their dates on the GFA website PLEASE!!! For non regulars we need to know to avoid problems like last season! Tom -- From: tom claffey To: aus-soaring Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] 20M Nationals Hi all, The latest Gliding Australia mag has a paragraph on the 20M comp on page 7. Due to conflicting dates this comp will almost certainly not happen in Dec but in Jan 2013 at Narromine. [after Benalla, before Horsham] As soon as dates finalised I will post them here and send them on to GFA Sec to put on website calendar. We hope by using the new dates with no other conflicts more of you will compete, it should be a hoot! Regards, Tom ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5128 - Release Date: 07/12/12 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M Nationals
Confirming dates : Tuesday 22Jan - Thursday 31Jan at Narromine. Could the organisers of Horsham week put their dates on the GFA website PLEASE!!! For non regulars we need to know to avoid problems like last season! Tom From: tom claffey To: aus-soaring Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] 20M Nationals Hi all, The latest Gliding Australia mag has a paragraph on the 20M comp on page 7. Due to conflicting dates this comp will almost certainly not happen in Dec but in Jan 2013 at Narromine. [after Benalla, before Horsham] As soon as dates finalised I will post them here and send them on to GFA Sec to put on website calendar. We hope by using the new dates with no other conflicts more of you will compete, it should be a hoot! Regards, Tom ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Darling Downs weather for the weekend of 14 - 15 July 2012 - updated
Hi folks The updated weekend forecast is at the link below and whilst Saturday could have some rain, Sunday looks reasonable, although blue. -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au Darling Downs gliding weather information +61 438 385 533 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Cambridge GPS-NAV just may arise again!!!!
I got the below from a friend in USA little while ago so to all *DO NOT GIVE UP ON CAMBRIDGE GPS-NAV*. It may arise from the ashes after all so the logger just may have its 20 birthday as an approved IGC logger again!!! There is some good news regarding the Cambridge GPS-NAV. ClearNav folks have developed new software for the OLC in Germany. This software plus improved personal communication between ClearNav and OLC folks should lead to an announcement soon that GPS-NAV flight logs will again be accepted. Ian McPhee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: FW: Safety Cushions
Some other reading on the topic http://www.streckenflug.at/shop/images/dynafoam_freeflight.pdf http://www.spina-bac.biz/yankeeromeo/DSI/foam_ostiv.pdf From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Morgan Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:10 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: FW: Safety Cushions I read the document and it seems to have lots of good advice. I don't understand how "bouncing" of the non-energy-absorbing foam causes injuries. They say that bouncy foam is bad but then the discussion of why bouncing might be bad says that the glider bounces off the ground and comes up and hits the pilot who is still descending. The diagram titled BOUNCING shows the pilot falling towards the glider with an air gap between him and the cushion. If the pilot has bounced off the cushion, why is he descending? The text says that the pilot is in free-fall at this point. Let's assume that the seatbelt is relatively loose and the pilot is 5cm above the seat. How does a fall from 5cm make the injuries significantly worse? - Morgan Sandercock From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 4:13 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: FW: Safety Cushions This article from BGA is very worth a read. People who saw the crash may remember after crash he just got out of glider and walked around and I love his statement. Kiwis must have confor in their gliders while the Poms highly recommend it and most club gliders have it. I personally believe it should be mandatory in Australian gliders and just maybe one person who is now in a wheel chair and was sitting on crap makers yellow foam cushions may be walking today. For those that know confor foam give the demo of slamming your fist into 3cm of confor on a brick wall to your friends. As many who know me know I will never sign out a form 2 unless it has confor foam cushion. (nor will I sign out a crap hard to read Altimeter or an undercart without decent green -down and red -up) Lets hope there are a few more AUS gliders using confor cushions this season ou from a wheelchair. Treat cost of confor foam as a one off insurance policy which may save you from a wheelchair for the rest of your life. Ian McPhee From: Terry, Ged (UK) Date: 11 July 2012 17:36 Subject: FW: Safety Cushions To: Ruth Patching , Robert Moore , "r.g.richter" , JR , "ga...@sharpbuilding.com.au" , Dave and Jenne Goldsmith -Original Message- From: off...@gliding.co.uk [mailto:off...@gliding.co.uk] Sent: 11 July 2012 08:25 Subject: Safety Cushions --! WARNING ! -- This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for instructions on reporting suspicious email messages. To: BGA Full and Assistant Instructors You will be aware that BGA RP 38 recommends that all glider cockpits should be equipped with cushions containing energy absorbing materials. These cushions are widely used in club gliders but less so in privately owned gliders. The BGA has produced a booklet explaining how safety cushions work and how they can reduce injury not just in a crash but in the heavy landings that occur from time to time on instructing flights. We are hoping the booklet will encourage all non-users to install energy absorbent cushions. You can download a copy of the booklet from http://www.gliding.co.uk/bgainfo/safety/documents/safetyfoam.pdf and your CFI has hard copy versions of the booklet for distribution. An EMail highlighting the issue and providing a link to the booklet will be sent to all private owners in the next few days. Please help us by encouraging all pilots to fly with a safety cushion. Best regards Peter Claiden Chairman, BGA Safety Committee This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. -- Dave and Jenne Goldsmith daveandje...@gmail.com 61 (0)3 54 28 3358 PO Box 577, Gisborne, Vic, 3437 Australia www.vintageglidersaustralia.org.au www.australianglidingmuseum.org.au www.gliding-in-melbourne.org www.bendigogliding.org.au _
Re: [Aus-soaring] Benalla Nationals
Www.deltaone.id.au/benallamulti13 Its in the Gfa calendar and it has been open for a couple of months. Cheers Tim Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ -Original message- From: Robert Hart To: Soaring in Australia Sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012, 08:15:19 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Benalla Nationals ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Benalla Nationals
http://www.deltaone.id.au/BenallaMulti13/ From: Robert Hart Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:15 PM To: Soaring in Australia Subject: [Aus-soaring] Benalla Nationals Hi I can't find the web site for entries to this Jan's nationals...is it up yet? -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au Darling Downs gliding weather information +61 438 385 533 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Benalla Nationals
Hi I can't find the web site for entries to this Jan's nationals...is it up yet? -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au Darling Downs gliding weather information +61 438 385 533 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
