Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings

2013-08-04 Thread Christopher McDonnelll
If driving a combination the length of glider trailer  car, there is a 
prescribed distance between you and the vehicle in front of quite some distance 
which all are not totally aware of.

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On 04/08/2013, at 3:06 AM, Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes  agreed
 
 
 On 4 August 2013 06:58, Stuart  Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 Ron,
 
   It exceeds the requirements J
 
  
 
 My understanding is that the definition of a Long Vehicle is any combination 
 that exceeds 7.5 metres however the Long Vehicle signage is not required
 
 until the combination is 22 Metres or more – the high level centre brake 
 light is not required either.  
 
  
 
 But as we all know we share the road with a lot of Numties who have to 
 overtake any trailer if it is in front of them regardless of how fast or 
 slow it is traveling;
 
 The sign gets people’s attention and that’s what it’s there for.   
 
  
 
 SDF
 
  
 
  
 
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 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
 Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 10:46 PM
 
 
 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings
  
 
 Guys   as I read the QLD requirements there is no need to have a long 
 Vehicle sign; just the do not overtake turning vehicle sign and the 
 Horizontal Diagonal thing which must be at least 0.16 square meters in area.
 
  
 
 I presume that the trailer in the pic satisfies the ACT/NSW requirements??
 
  
 
 On 3 August 2013 18:56, Stuart  Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I did my trailer up last year – the signs are from a truck/bus 
 supplier; even the big “Long Vehicle” sign was just $40.00,
 
 and before someone comments that I don’t have side lights or reflectors, it 
 did before the job was completed.
 
  
 
 The most expensive item was the LED high centre brake light and the paint J  
  
 
  
 
 SDF 
 
  
 
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 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
 Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 1:41 PM
 
 
 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings
 
  
 
 Guys  Pam Kurstjens some time back kindly reminded all owners of Qld 
 registered trailer about new requirements for do not overtake type 
 markings. Can anyone put me onto a place where I can get these signs 
 please?? I have searched three shops in WA and can only get the printed do 
 not overtake signs. I am after the symbol signs for this in 300 x 300, not 
 the usual 400 x 400, and also the horizontal diagonal striping sticker???
 
 Thanks, Ron.
 
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings

2013-08-04 Thread Ian Mc Phee
Correct re DNOTV but it sure is a great way to spread yourself across 2
lanes legally. Signs are money well spent and Ron corner stores well almost
have the signs for sale these days.
Ian m
On 04/08/2013 7:03 AM, Christopher McDonnelll wommamuku...@bigpond.com
wrote:

 As I understand it the DNOTV sign is not required if you do not wish to
 avail yourself of the privileges it endowes.

 Chris

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 On 03/08/2013, at 1:45 PM, Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Guys   as I read the QLD requirements there is no need to have a long
 Vehicle sign; just the do not overtake turning vehicle sign and the
 Horizontal Diagonal thing which must be at least 0.16 square meters in area.

 I presume that the trailer in the pic satisfies the ACT/NSW requirements??


 On 3 August 2013 18:56, Stuart  Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.auwrote:

 Guys,

 I did my trailer up last year – the signs are from a
 truck/bus supplier; even the big “Long Vehicle” sign was just $40.00,

 and before someone comments that I don’t have side lights or reflectors,
 it did before the job was completed.

 ** **

 The most expensive item was the LED high centre brake light and the paint
 J   

 ** **

 SDF 

 ** **

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 aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Ron Sanders
 *Sent:* Saturday, 3 August 2013 1:41 PM

 *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
 *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings

 ** **

 Guys  Pam Kurstjens some time back kindly reminded all owners of Qld
 registered trailer about new requirements for do not overtake type
 markings. Can anyone put me onto a place where I can get these signs
 please?? I have searched three shops in WA and can only get the printed do
 not overtake signs. I am after the symbol signs for this in 300 x 300, not
 the usual 400 x 400, and also the horizontal diagonal striping sticker???
 

 Thanks, Ron.

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Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings/outlandings

2013-08-04 Thread Gary Stevenson
Stuart, 

That is some very pretty tail, as our Yankee cousins might say! However It
seems from responses (on this forum) to you posting, that some of this is
not really legal - in fact completely  illegal!

 

 Pleased to hear that you fitted  side clearance lights and reflectors.
These items ARE now a legal  requirement throughout Australia. In passing,
please note that I heartly endorse these particular requirements. Apart from
the obvious safety aspect, I can assure you that when you have outlanded in
deepest woop-woop (which is somewhere just  beyond the black stump), you
cannot mistake the imminent  arrival of YOUR car and trailer, as opposed to
the false alarm generated by the passage  of  the only other  two other
vehicles (possibly a horse and cart, or more likely a tractor passing your
way,  in the 3/5/10 hours that have elapsed since you outlanded.

 

Is that a rego label I see on the back just to the right of the number
plate? If so It is highly likely that it is not in the correct position:
front LHS is usual. Suggest that you review the current guidelines on this
matter.

 

Ron, the diagonal marking tape you want should be available from any 3M
outlet: The trick is to get a metre or two, rather than a 50 or 100
metre/yard roll. Ring your local distributer and ask them who in the area
has bought a roll or two, get their contact details, and then give them a
call and ask if they will sell you a bit.  Safety equipment outlets might be
another possibility to try.

 

Gary 

 

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Stuart 
Kerri FERGUSON 
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:57 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings

 

Guys,

I did my trailer up last year - the signs are from a truck/bus
supplier; even the big Long Vehicle sign was just $40.00,

and before someone comments that I don't have side lights or reflectors, it
did before the job was completed.

 

The most expensive item was the LED high centre brake light and the paint J


 

SDF 

 

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 1:41 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings

 

Guys  Pam Kurstjens some time back kindly reminded all owners of Qld
registered trailer about new requirements for do not overtake type
markings. Can anyone put me onto a place where I can get these signs
please?? I have searched three shops in WA and can only get the printed do
not overtake signs. I am after the symbol signs for this in 300 x 300, not
the usual 400 x 400, and also the horizontal diagonal striping sticker???

Thanks, Ron.

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Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings/outlandings

2013-08-04 Thread Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
Gary,
  the Rego Label is fitted as required in the ACT up until 30/06/13, 
this photo was taken prior to then. Since 01/07/13 we are not required to 
display Rego Labels and we are no longer issued with labels, our Traffic Branch 
vehicles and some general duty vehicles are fitted with scanners, a device they 
refer to as RAPID, that scan number plates and detect unregistered vehicles, 
stolen number plates, if the owner has unpaid fines etc they are stopped on the 
spot. 

This leads to an interesting question at comps and camps; how do I know your 
car and trailer are registered when I'm asked to retrieve you if I cant see the 
rego label because as the driver I would be charged with driving an 
unregistered vehicle. 

Stuart FERGUSON 
Phone - 0419 797508


On 04/08/2013, at 22:59, Gary Stevenson gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Stuart,
 That is some very pretty tail, as our Yankee cousins might say! However It 
 seems from responses (on this forum) to you posting, that some of this is not 
 really legal – in fact completely  illegal!
  
  Pleased to hear that you fitted  side clearance lights and reflectors. These 
 items ARE now a legal  requirement throughout Australia. In passing, please 
 note that I heartly endorse these particular requirements. Apart from the 
 obvious safety aspect, I can assure you that when you have outlanded in 
 deepest woop-woop (which is somewhere just  beyond the black stump), you 
 cannot mistake the imminent  arrival of YOUR car and trailer, as opposed to 
 the false alarm generated by the passage  of  the only other  two other 
 vehicles (possibly a horse and cart, or more likely a tractor passing your 
 way,  in the 3/5/10 hours that have elapsed since you outlanded.
  
 Is that a rego label I see on the back just to the right of the number plate? 
 If so It is highly likely that it is not in the correct position: front LHS 
 is usual. Suggest that you review the current guidelines on this matter.
  
 Ron, the diagonal marking tape you want should be available from any 3M 
 outlet: The trick is to get a metre or two, rather than a 50 or 100 
 metre/yard roll. Ring your local distributer and ask them who in the area has 
 bought a roll or two, get their contact details, and then give them a call 
 and ask if they will sell you a bit.  Safety equipment outlets might be 
 another possibility to try.
  
 Gary
  
 From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Stuart  
 Kerri FERGUSON 
 Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:57 PM
 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings
  
 Guys,
 I did my trailer up last year – the signs are from a truck/bus 
 supplier; even the big “Long Vehicle” sign was just $40.00,
 and before someone comments that I don’t have side lights or reflectors, it 
 did before the job was completed.
  
 The most expensive item was the LED high centre brake light and the paint J   
  
 SDF 
  
 From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
 Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 1:41 PM
 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] QLD trailer markings
  
 Guys  Pam Kurstjens some time back kindly reminded all owners of Qld 
 registered trailer about new requirements for do not overtake type 
 markings. Can anyone put me onto a place where I can get these signs please?? 
 I have searched three shops in WA and can only get the printed do not 
 overtake signs. I am after the symbol signs for this in 300 x 300, not the 
 usual 400 x 400, and also the horizontal diagonal striping sticker???
 Thanks, Ron.
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