[Aus-soaring] FW: New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Mandy Temple]

On behalf of Tom Claffey Chair of NCC

I can confirm that the issue of finish height and finish ring size was
discussed at last weekend's NCC meeting, however at this stage it is a
discussion item only  and there will be no change for the coming season.

Mandy CSC

 

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Re: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Tim Shirley]

Even in the realms of rumour and fantasy, this suggestion is stunningly
silly.

The number of ways in which this won't work are beyond counting.

One thing I can say for certain.  I will never be a contest official or a
competitor at any competition where this is a rule.  

What exactly is broken, that needs fixing?

Cheers

Tim
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Adam
Woolley
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 12:43
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

Heard on the grapevine that we might be in for some new finish ring rules...

10km finish ring;

Min finish height @ Multi-Class: 1000'
Min finish height @ Club Class:  1200'

What do you think? Discuss.


Cheers,
WPP
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Re: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Mike Borgelt]

Probably the same rocket scientists who brought you the second 
signature after rigging, Ron.


1000 feet and 10 km is 33:1. Given that task setters seem to like 
headwind final glides and you and I have both experienced final 
glides with 30 knots or greater headwinds it seems you may get a 
significant number of land outs after finishing as even a 50 : 1 
glider may have trouble under these conditions. Of course you want to 
do a circuit also don't you?



Mike





At 07:52 PM 9/08/2013, you wrote:

Guys   who is "they"?? just who raised this idea??  And as Bob asks "why"

ron


On 9 August 2013 16:13, Bob Ward 
<wendo...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

Adam,

I would have thought that 5 K at 500 ft gave sufficient margin for 
safety. This seemed to me to do away with the worm burner final 
glides, which we all used to do. Very exciting, certainly, but now 
upon more mature reflection, were bloody dangerous. I would be 
interested in seeing the rationale for increasing the radius to 10 
K. Then I will be prepared to give a considered opinion.


Regards
Bob Ward

-Original Message- From: Adam Woolley
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...


Heard on the grapevine that we might be in for some new finish ring rules...

10km finish ring;

Min finish height @ Multi-Class: 1000'
Min finish height @ Club Class:  1200'

What do you think? Discuss.


Cheers,
WPP
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Re: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Ron Sanders]

Guys   who is "they"?? just who raised this idea??  And as Bob asks
"why"

ron


On 9 August 2013 16:13, Bob Ward  wrote:

> Adam,
>
> I would have thought that 5 K at 500 ft gave sufficient margin for safety.
> This seemed to me to do away with the worm burner final glides, which we
> all used to do. Very exciting, certainly, but now upon more mature
> reflection, were bloody dangerous. I would be interested in seeing the
> rationale for increasing the radius to 10 K. Then I will be prepared to
> give a considered opinion.
>
> Regards
> Bob Ward
>
> -Original Message- From: Adam Woolley
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:43 PM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...
>
>
> Heard on the grapevine that we might be in for some new finish ring
> rules...
>
> 10km finish ring;
>
> Min finish height @ Multi-Class: 1000'
> Min finish height @ Club Class:  1200'
>
> What do you think? Discuss.
>
>
> Cheers,
> WPP
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Re: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Adam Woolley]

Yes a 'one zero' kilometer finish ring. I hear that it's being introduced to 
give us all a 1000' of altitude to think after we cross the line... 

Win a gliding competition every day by outlanding after finishing; or

Continue on to land at the airfield if you can make it.


Cheers,
WPP



On 09/08/2013, at 18:13, "Bob Ward"  wrote:

> Adam,
> 
> I would have thought that 5 K at 500 ft gave sufficient margin for safety. 
> This seemed to me to do away with the worm burner final glides, which we all 
> used to do. Very exciting, certainly, but now upon more mature reflection, 
> were bloody dangerous. I would be interested in seeing the rationale for 
> increasing the radius to 10 K. Then I will be prepared to give a considered 
> opinion.
> 
> Regards
> Bob Ward
> 
> -Original Message- From: Adam Woolley
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:43 PM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...
> 
> Heard on the grapevine that we might be in for some new finish ring rules...
> 
> 10km finish ring;
> 
> Min finish height @ Multi-Class: 1000'
> Min finish height @ Club Class:  1200'
> 
> What do you think? Discuss.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> WPP
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Re: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Bob Ward]

Adam,

I would have thought that 5 K at 500 ft gave sufficient margin for safety. 
This seemed to me to do away with the worm burner final glides, which we all 
used to do. Very exciting, certainly, but now upon more mature reflection, 
were bloody dangerous. I would be interested in seeing the rationale for 
increasing the radius to 10 K. Then I will be prepared to give a considered 
opinion.


Regards
Bob Ward

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Woolley

Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

Heard on the grapevine that we might be in for some new finish ring rules...

10km finish ring;

Min finish height @ Multi-Class: 1000'
Min finish height @ Club Class:  1200'

What do you think? Discuss.


Cheers,
WPP
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Re: [Aus-soaring] New Rules: On the grapevine...

[Ron Sanders]

Ten KM??? what was wrong with three K??

Ron


On 9 August 2013 10:43, Adam Woolley  wrote:

> Heard on the grapevine that we might be in for some new finish ring
> rules...
>
> 10km finish ring;
>
> Min finish height @ Multi-Class: 1000'
> Min finish height @ Club Class:  1200'
>
> What do you think? Discuss.
>
>
> Cheers,
> WPP
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