[Aus-soaring] Colibri/F for sale

[Tim Shirley]

Hi all,

As a result of an upgrade I have a Colibri/F for sale.  This is a later 
model Colibri with the touch pad buttons, micro SD card interface and 
V5.0 firmware, and an embedded but separate flarm unit.  The flarm data 
comes out on a separate cable to the GPS data, so you can't use this as 
a combined unit without making up some way to combine the signals.


There is a remote GPS antenna and a remote Flarm antenna of the type 
usually mounted with double sided tape.


The logger function continues to work well (it's IGC approved to All 
Flights) however the Flarm is not working correctly (dropouts and 
spurious alerts) and I would not recommend relying on it.


I have all necessary cables, except for the power supply and serial 
cable that was originally delivered with these devices.  I have the 
original manuals as well.


Make an offer, off list, if you are interested.  I will sell to the 
highest reasonable offer.

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Cheers


 /Tim/

/tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare/

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Airline involvement John Parncutt

[Mike Cleaver]

D -So you obviously misidentified the operator Justin works for as one 
of those small or Regional airlines - aircraft from ATR72 up to 777 are 
not the problem (though I agree with you about some SAAB and Metro 
drivers)! Problem there is that most of their aircraft spend very little 
time in the Class G and lower Class E airspace where glider pilots fly. 
Hence we do not often hear the very professional operators unless we 
listen on some of the shared Class A/C/E/G ATC frequencies which MOST 
glider pilots avoid.


I notice that some of the professionals are now using "QLink" or 
"Velocity" callsigns rather than the ones they used last year - things 
change in the aviation industry. Hopefully we can train our glider 
pilots to become like the REAL professionals - clear and concise 
messages spoken at a measured pace, using the most effective mix of ICAO 
phraseology and plain language, and avoiding the repetitive but useless 
broadcasts that some in the GA and recreational training game had 
adopted as a result of ill-thought-out  rule changes in the past 10 
years. There is a lot of bad radio procedure in CTAF transmissions from 
all kinds of operators, though they can and should be a little less 
formal than on busy ATC frequencies.


Justin - where and what do you fly (gliders and others)? Please continue 
to be an ambassador for good airmanship!


Wombat


On 13/11/2013 12:01 PM, DMcD wrote:

So perhaps talking on the radio in a professional manner…
 

Wrong forum! You want to be posting that on the forum which Rex and
most other GA pilots read.

Talking as rapidly as possible when transmitting aviation related
stuff and at a normal speed and tone of voice when just chatting
appears to be the accepted "professional" standard. Oh… and don't
forget to clip the first and last words of the transmission… the
location. That's the important bit to get everyone on their lookout.

In my limited experience, the big airlines and the clubs are generally
good at radio communication while the GA lot and some regional
airlines prefer transmission to communication.

D

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Airline involvement John Parncutt

[DMcD]

>>> So perhaps talking on the radio in a professional manner…

Wrong forum! You want to be posting that on the forum which Rex and
most other GA pilots read.

Talking as rapidly as possible when transmitting aviation related
stuff and at a normal speed and tone of voice when just chatting
appears to be the accepted "professional" standard. Oh… and don't
forget to clip the first and last words of the transmission… the
location. That's the important bit to get everyone on their lookout.

In my limited experience, the big airlines and the clubs are generally
good at radio communication while the GA lot and some regional
airlines prefer transmission to communication.

D

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[Aus-soaring] Airline involvement John Parncutt

[Justin Sinclair]

It already has a pretty big traction in the airline industry, and it's getting 
bigger.

In the Airline I work for
The GMGFO ( Boss  of 148 aircraft  from 777 to F50 including cadet program) 
looks at the GFA ads monthly, he wants to buy something but is time poor.
The Domestic Chief pilot was up at Kingaroy not long ago, flew the ASK21 and is 
keen to join.
The 737 and 330 standards managers are ex glider pilots and are very keen to 
get back into it, they steal my magazines constantly. Probably 10% of the pilot 
group have flown gliders.
Our last two Airline Pilot Cadet intakes both had GUSS/ Kingaroy gliding pilots
We have the companies permission to put selected gliding instructors through a 
bit of a simulator program so as to give them a feel of what becomes important 
in jet operations, that way they as instructors can reinforce basics at the 
start of the pilots career, we as a company benefit later on.
We have already put through an RTO on one of our CRM/NTS courses and the plan 
is to offer more.
Our technical team are very aware of FLARM and other technological advances.
The Current tug master of one of Queensland's biggest clubs is a current 737 
First Officer.

Some sailplane pilots still think its ok to apply the same rule set as they did 
in the 60's, this would be fine if we were still flying Blanik's and 
kookaburras however we are now going cross country in aeroplanes that outweigh 
and go faster than ultralights. So perhaps talking on the radio in a 
professional manner, being aware of other forms of aviation and proactively 
showing others our passion in a positive light might be worth a thought, rather 
than the old "I fly gliders therefore I am a better pilot" type of attitude.

Just a thought :)

Justin

Justin Sinclair 
17 Queen st.
Scarborough Qld 4020

Hm 07 3885 8949
Mob 0421 061 811

Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au


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Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?

[Mike Borgelt]

Is the Stemme officially aerobatic?


Mike

At 07:50 PM 12/11/2013, you wrote:

Im sure most of you will like this article.

Darin
Tug pilot, RAAF Richmond Gliding Club
===

What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?

Could gliding be the low-cost training answer to keep airline 
pilots' manual flying skills fresh and sharp? TIM ROBINSON reports 
from the recent RAeS International Flight Crew Training Conference, 
held on 25-26 September.


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Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?

[Darin McLean]

Published article link below.

http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/10/18/what-can-glider-pilots-teach-the-airline-industry/8629/
On Nov 13, 2013 8:06 AM, "Nelson Handcock" 
wrote:

> Yes - very interesting. Is there a link to the published article available?
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Nelson Handcock
> 0409 149919
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:05 AM, <
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:05:32 +1100
>> From: "John Parncutt" 
>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline
>> industry?
>> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
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>> Message-ID: <009701cedfe2$8ae8f950$a0baebf0$@net.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Great article Darin, would be fantastic if this concept got some traction
>> within the airline industry.
>>
>> Sadly its up against the "wouldn't catch me in an aircraft without an
>> engine" brigade which despite showing complete lack of understanding of
>> flight dynamics seems to be prevalent amongst the GA community.
>>
>>
>>
>> John Parncutt
>>
>>
>>
>> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
>> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Darin
>> McLean
>> Sent: 12 November, 2013 20:50
>> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
>> Subject: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?
>>
>>
>>
>> Im sure most of you will like this article.
>>
>>
>>
>> Darin
>>
>> Tug pilot, RAAF Richmond Gliding Club
>>
>> ===
>>
>>
>>
>> What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?
>>
>> Could gliding be the low-cost training answer to keep airline pilots?
>> manual
>> flying skills fresh and sharp? TIM ROBINSON reports from the recent RAeS
>> International Flight Crew Training Conference, held on 25-26 September.
>>
>> <
>> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/S10-glider-Ste
>> mme.jpg
>> >
>>
>> Could gliders hold the key to improving airline safety? (Stemme)
>>
>> The 2013
>> <
>> http://aerosociety.com/Events/Event-List/806/Annual-International-Flight-Cr
>> ew-Training-Conference-Upset-Prevention-Recognition-and-Recovery-Training
>> >
>> RAeS International Flight Crew Training Conference this year was
>> noteworthy
>> for a number of reasons; its highly international make-up (some 71 of 125
>> delegates were from outside the UK, from 19 countries). Its focus: ?Upset
>> Prevention, Recognition and Recovery Training? was rated ?the best and
>> most
>> productive conference held anywhere on the work to prevent aircraft loss
>> of
>> control in flight?.
>>
>> A key point agreed by many (if not all) speakers and delegates at the
>> conference was that in the past 15 years, manual flying skills of airline
>> pilots has atrophied. Increased cockpit automation, rigid standard
>> operating
>> procedures, more use of flight simulators and a reduced pool of military
>> pilots has conspired to erode basic flying skills in a new generation of
>> pilots. This, as AF447 and perhaps more recent incidents, have shown, can
>> result in hull losses or be fatal in certain, rare circumstances. Loss of
>> control incidents (LOC-I) or ?non-normal? (eg high angle-of-attack or
>> bank)
>> situations are
>> <
>> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2011/09/28/loss-of-control-i
>> catee/5470/>
>> thus a major safety issue.
>>
>> Though the conference detailed the high-level work going on by airlines,
>> training schools, manufacturers, regulators and stakeholders, including
>> the
>> Society?s own   International Committee for Aviation
>> Training in Extended Envelopes (ICATEE), an intriguing presentation from
>> Captain Sarah Kelman, a safety officer at  
>> ea

Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?

[emilis prelgauskas]

On the flip side, the occasional loss in flight of a big span sailplane 
(wings coming off during pull out from unusual attitude/spiral), often 
with well known names on board, is also notable as occuring in recent 
times

'sluggish like an airliner'




On 13/11/2013, at 6:35 AM, John Parncutt wrote:

Great article Darin, would be fantastic if this concept got some 
traction within the airline industry.
Sadly its up against the "wouldn't catch me in an aircraft without an 
engine" brigade which despite showing complete lack of understanding 
of flight dynamics seems to be prevalent amongst the GA community.

 
John Parncutt
 
On Behalf Of Darin McLean
Sent: 12 November, 2013 20:50
Subject: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline 
industry?

 
Im sure most of you will like this article.
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Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?

[Nelson Handcock]

Yes - very interesting. Is there a link to the published article available?


Thanks & Regards,

Nelson Handcock
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> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:05:32 +1100
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> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline
> industry?
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> Message-ID: <009701cedfe2$8ae8f950$a0baebf0$@net.au>
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>
> Great article Darin, would be fantastic if this concept got some traction
> within the airline industry.
>
> Sadly its up against the "wouldn't catch me in an aircraft without an
> engine" brigade which despite showing complete lack of understanding of
> flight dynamics seems to be prevalent amongst the GA community.
>
>
>
> John Parncutt
>
>
>
> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Darin
> McLean
> Sent: 12 November, 2013 20:50
> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?
>
>
>
> Im sure most of you will like this article.
>
>
>
> Darin
>
> Tug pilot, RAAF Richmond Gliding Club
>
> ===
>
>
>
> What can glider pilots teach the airline industry?
>
> Could gliding be the low-cost training answer to keep airline pilots?
> manual
> flying skills fresh and sharp? TIM ROBINSON reports from the recent RAeS
> International Flight Crew Training Conference, held on 25-26 September.
>
> <
> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/S10-glider-Ste
> mme.jpg>
>
> Could gliders hold the key to improving airline safety? (Stemme)
>
> The 2013
> <
> http://aerosociety.com/Events/Event-List/806/Annual-International-Flight-Cr
> ew-Training-Conference-Upset-Prevention-Recognition-and-Recovery-Training>
> RAeS International Flight Crew Training Conference this year was noteworthy
> for a number of reasons; its highly international make-up (some 71 of 125
> delegates were from outside the UK, from 19 countries). Its focus: ?Upset
> Prevention, Recognition and Recovery Training? was rated ?the best and most
> productive conference held anywhere on the work to prevent aircraft loss of
> control in flight?.
>
> A key point agreed by many (if not all) speakers and delegates at the
> conference was that in the past 15 years, manual flying skills of airline
> pilots has atrophied. Increased cockpit automation, rigid standard
> operating
> procedures, more use of flight simulators and a reduced pool of military
> pilots has conspired to erode basic flying skills in a new generation of
> pilots. This, as AF447 and perhaps more recent incidents, have shown, can
> result in hull losses or be fatal in certain, rare circumstances. Loss of
> control incidents (LOC-I) or ?non-normal? (eg high angle-of-attack or bank)
> situations are
> <
> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2011/09/28/loss-of-control-i
> catee/5470/> thus a major safety issue.
>
> Though the conference detailed the high-level work going on by airlines,
> training schools, manufacturers, regulators and stakeholders, including the
> Society?s own   International Committee for Aviation
> Training in Extended Envelopes (ICATEE), an intriguing presentation from
> Captain Sarah Kelman, a safety officer at  
> easyJet, highlighted a more simple solution to manual flying skills erosion
> ? gliding.
>
> Jet airliners and gliders
>
> <
> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/Capt-Sarah-Kel
> man.jpg>
>
> Capt Sarah Kelman, easyJet (and British Gliding Association) gives her
> presentation. (Lukas Willcocks)
>
> At first glance, there may be little in common between a glider weighing
> between 500-800kg and the latest single-aisle jet airliners carrying
> hundreds of passengers. One is powered, utilises complex computers, has
> radar, flies higher, faster and is heavier being made out of metals (and
> composites). What does a professional airline crew with the weighty
> responsibility of the safety of 

[Aus-soaring] Amendment to Sporting Code para 6.4

[Pam Kurstjens]

 

A small error has been pointed out that in Paragraph 6.4 of the Sporting
code the 13.5 m class was included with the World Class as a class that did
not allow motor gliders. This error was unintentional and the current
version of the sporting Code has now been amended to delete the reference to
13.5 m class in that paragraph. A direct link is 

http://is.gd/uYnO78. 

 

Ross Macintyre

Chairman Sporting Code committee. 

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