[Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a flask as per the previous Tasman model. I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots. Worth a look! Cheers David Cleland ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
Imitation is the greatest compliment. Sounds like they've copied most of the features from our B700/900. We've had the climb improving green light since the B400/B500 9 years ago and put in the comparator for the running average/thermal average as well on the B700 3 years ago and its more recent linear scale version the B900. Also the climb audio on/off ratio changes slightly when climb rate exceeds running average. B400/B700/B900 can run from 4 x AA alkaline batteries for hours (power pack but no batteries included). These are also on the B600/B800 systems which have an airspeed sensor, advanced vario processing (optional netto or relative), speed to fly, glide/nav/wind computer, GPS and serial output of GPS, air data and settings to external PNA type glide computers. All our varios also have a large clear stepper motor driven pointer of extremely high resolution. The stepper allows for nearly 360 degree pointer movement (more can be confusing) giving significantly expanded scales. Most manufacturers were offering LCD pointer displays in the 1980s but nearly all have gone to stepper motor driven pointers. We looked at this around 1987 but didn't like the poor 0.4 knot resolution that was the best possible. You'd be really annoyed if say a Winter vario had a pointer that moved in half knot steps. All our instruments are available to properly fit 57mm or 80mm standard holes (adapter plates not required) and by putting the scales on the outside of the hole even the 57mm instruments have a larger, clearer display. The B600/B800 can also take our new Dynamis sensor for complete 3D real time airmass motion sensing and no horizontal gust sensitivity. Expensive (the sensor mainly), but unmatched capability. A recent customer who fitted a B800 to get an early Dynamis when available has found he likes the audio better than the one in the CAI302 it replaced and better than the LX9000 audio. Mike At 11:15 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote: Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a flask as per the previous Tasman model. I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots. Worth a look! Cheers David Cleland ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] varios
I should add that none of our instruments have required a flask since 1982. We've used solid state silicon pressure sensors since then. Also all drive vario repeater displays for two seaters. Metric or knots and on the B600/B800/B700/B900 the calibration can be changed by PC(B600/800) or in the instrument (B700/900) and by flipping the display bezel around the 45 degrees axis. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
Hi all, Thanks heaps to people posting factual information about products of interest to soaring pilots. It is so much more useful than most of the nonsense that passes for comment here. Even if people are singing the praises of their own products, I still welcome all such information. I already have a high-end vario, so I'm not in the market for yet another magic box that will transform me into Sebastian Kawa. It didn't work with the first one either, though I am sure that is down to me. The instrument works fine. I also have a Winter vario that performs well enough as a backup but when I recently had a fuse blow in flight, I found myself with only the Winter for a couple of hours and I would have preferred a bit of audio and an averager. Of course, such a backup vario doesn't need to be complex and certainly it should not be expensive. It just needs to have a backup power supply onboard the instrument. So what are the options? Oh, and a reminder to all, I still have a very nice Discus for sale at a very reasonable price :) Cheers /Tim Shirley/ /tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare/ On 6/12/2014 2:26 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: Imitation is the greatest compliment. Sounds like they've copied most of the features from our B700/900. We've had the climb improving green light since the B400/B500 9 years ago and put in the comparator for the running average/thermal average as well on the B700 3 years ago and its more recent linear scale version the B900. Also the climb audio on/off ratio changes slightly when climb rate exceeds running average. B400/B700/B900 can run from 4 x AA alkaline batteries for hours (power pack but no batteries included). These are also on the B600/B800 systems which have an airspeed sensor, advanced vario processing (optional netto or relative), speed to fly, glide/nav/wind computer, GPS and serial output of GPS, air data and settings to external PNA type glide computers. All our varios also have a large clear stepper motor driven pointer of extremely high resolution. The stepper allows for nearly 360 degree pointer movement (more can be confusing) giving significantly expanded scales. Most manufacturers were offering LCD pointer displays in the 1980s but nearly all have gone to stepper motor driven pointers. We looked at this around 1987 but didn't like the poor 0.4 knot resolution that was the best possible. You'd be really annoyed if say a Winter vario had a pointer that moved in half knot steps. All our instruments are available to properly fit 57mm or 80mm standard holes (adapter plates not required) and by putting the scales on the outside of the hole even the 57mm instruments have a larger, clearer display. The B600/B800 can also take our new Dynamis sensor for complete 3D real time airmass motion sensing and no horizontal gust sensitivity. Expensive (the sensor mainly), but unmatched capability. A recent customer who fitted a B800 to get an early Dynamis when available has found he likes the audio better than the one in the CAI302 it replaced and better than the LX9000 audio. Mike At 11:15 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote: Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 /Sprite/. It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a flask as per the previous Tasman model. I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots. Worth a look! Cheers David Cleland ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring *Borgelt Instruments***- /design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 /www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/tel: 07 4635 5784overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
Yes David the Tasman looks like the ducks guts I have ordered one with the flight pack for the twin 103 great value for money as well On 6 Dec 2014, at 12:15 pm, David Cleland davidlclel...@gmail.com wrote: Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a flask as per the previous Tasman model. I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots. Worth a look! Cheers David Cleland ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
Gday Tim and Others, The Colibri II has the audio plus it navigates/records etc with a 6 hour battery life of its own. The audio can be turned off easily when its not required. And if the agent reads this Im prepared to accept a small [or even a large ] commission! J Regards, Colin From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2014 3:14 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario Hi all, Thanks heaps to people posting factual information about products of interest to soaring pilots. It is so much more useful than most of the nonsense that passes for comment here. Even if people are singing the praises of their own products, I still welcome all such information. I already have a high-end vario, so I'm not in the market for yet another magic box that will transform me into Sebastian Kawa. It didn't work with the first one either, though I am sure that is down to me. The instrument works fine. I also have a Winter vario that performs well enough as a backup but when I recently had a fuse blow in flight, I found myself with only the Winter for a couple of hours and I would have preferred a bit of audio and an averager. Of course, such a backup vario doesn't need to be complex and certainly it should not be expensive. It just needs to have a backup power supply onboard the instrument. So what are the options? Oh, and a reminder to all, I still have a very nice Discus for sale at a very reasonable price :) Cheers Tim Shirley tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare On 6/12/2014 2:26 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: Imitation is the greatest compliment. Sounds like they've copied most of the features from our B700/900. We've had the climb improving green light since the B400/B500 9 years ago and put in the comparator for the running average/thermal average as well on the B700 3 years ago and its more recent linear scale version the B900. Also the climb audio on/off ratio changes slightly when climb rate exceeds running average. B400/B700/B900 can run from 4 x AA alkaline batteries for hours (power pack but no batteries included). These are also on the B600/B800 systems which have an airspeed sensor, advanced vario processing (optional netto or relative), speed to fly, glide/nav/wind computer, GPS and serial output of GPS, air data and settings to external PNA type glide computers. All our varios also have a large clear stepper motor driven pointer of extremely high resolution. The stepper allows for nearly 360 degree pointer movement (more can be confusing) giving significantly expanded scales. Most manufacturers were offering LCD pointer displays in the 1980s but nearly all have gone to stepper motor driven pointers. We looked at this around 1987 but didn't like the poor 0.4 knot resolution that was the best possible. You'd be really annoyed if say a Winter vario had a pointer that moved in half knot steps. All our instruments are available to properly fit 57mm or 80mm standard holes (adapter plates not required) and by putting the scales on the outside of the hole even the 57mm instruments have a larger, clearer display. The B600/B800 can also take our new Dynamis sensor for complete 3D real time airmass motion sensing and no horizontal gust sensitivity. Expensive (the sensor mainly), but unmatched capability. A recent customer who fitted a B800 to get an early Dynamis when available has found he likes the audio better than the one in the CAI302 it replaced and better than the LX9000 audio. Mike At 11:15 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote: Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a flask as per the previous Tasman model. I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots. Worth a look! Cheers David Cleland ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/ tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
Colin, A vario in stand alone logger won't have total energy. While TE introduces problems it is essential in modern slippery gliders. In your Blanik , Grunau Baby etc not so much. We did considerable flight data logging in developing Dynamis some of it in smooth air trying to fly accurately at constant airspeed. It is amazingly difficult and the magnitudes of the stick lift are quite large even down at 55 to 60 knots. As a standby vario a non TE vario won't be that good. I think the Colibri 2 was developed for the hang and paraglider market primarily where a non TE vario is OK. Mike At 03:25 PM 6/12/2014, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0022_01D01171.497C8BA0 Content-Language: en-au Gday Tim and Others, The Colibri II has the audio plus it navigates/records etc with a 6 hour battery life of its own. The audio can be turned off easily when its not required. And if the agent reads this Im prepared to accept a small [or even a large ] commission! J Regards, Colin From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2014 3:14 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario Hi all, Thanks heaps to people posting factual information about products of interest to soaring pilots. It is so much more useful than most of the nonsense that passes for comment here. Even if people are singing the praises of their own products, I still welcome all such information. I already have a high-end vario, so I'm not in the market for yet another magic box that will transform me into Sebastian Kawa. It didn't work with the first one either, though I am sure that is down to me. The instrument works fine. I also have a Winter vario that performs well enough as a backup but when I recently had a fuse blow in flight, I found myself with only the Winter for a couple of hours and I would have preferred a bit of audio and an averager. Of course, such a backup vario doesn't need to be complex and certainly it should not be expensive. It just needs to have a backup power supply onboard the instrument. So what are the options? Oh, and a reminder to all, I still have a very nice Discus for sale at a very reasonable price :) Cheers Tim Shirley tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare On 6/12/2014 2:26 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: Imitation is the greatest compliment. Sounds like they've copied most of the features from our B700/900. We've had the climb improving green light since the B400/B500 9 years ago and put in the comparator for the running average/thermal average as well on the B700 3 years ago and its more recent linear scale version the B900. Also the climb audio on/off ratio changes slightly when climb rate exceeds running average. B400/B700/B900 can run from 4 x AA alkaline batteries for hours (power pack but no batteries included). These are also on the B600/B800 systems which have an airspeed sensor, advanced vario processing (optional netto or relative), speed to fly, glide/nav/wind computer, GPS and serial output of GPS, air data and settings to external PNA type glide computers. All our varios also have a large clear stepper motor driven pointer of extremely high resolution. The stepper allows for nearly 360 degree pointer movement (more can be confusing) giving significantly expanded scales. Most manufacturers were offering LCD pointer displays in the 1980s but nearly all have gone to stepper motor driven pointers. We looked at this around 1987 but didn't like the poor 0.4 knot resolution that was the best possible. You'd be really annoyed if say a Winter vario had a pointer that moved in half knot steps. All our instruments are available to properly fit 57mm or 80mm standard holes (adapter plates not required) and by putting the scales on the outside of the hole even the 57mm instruments have a larger, clearer display. The B600/B800 can also take our new Dynamis sensor for complete 3D real time airmass motion sensing and no horizontal gust sensitivity. Expensive (the sensor mainly), but unmatched capability. A recent customer who fitted a B800 to get an early Dynamis when available has found he likes the audio better than the one in the CAI302 it replaced and better than the LX9000 audio. Mike At 11:15 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote: Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a flask as per the
