Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
Many years ago I saw one member of this list towing a Bocian to the launch point with a mountain bike, after his car had broken down :) Cheers Tim Tra dire e fare cè mezzo il mare -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon Hackett Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 08:35 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields Towing on grass adds its own challenges to such a question - and certainly an electric vehicle may be heavier than an ICE based one. That said, under many circumstances more weight on a towing vehicle is better - else it might just sit there and spin its wheels. For towing on hard surfaces, there are already a variety of electric-powered towing devices on the market. This is one that we use to move my PC-12 at Adelaide airport, they're brilliant - because you can walk along the wingtip while operating it and ensure clearance. It can also lift and rotate the nosewheel arbitrarily (in terms of direction) using a built in turntable: http://www.tracetowbots.com Not quite what you wanted for your application, but an indication that electric aircraft moving devices are starting to come into their own of late. Regards, Simon On 05/03/2013, at 2:49 PM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > All & Simon > > I hear Simon H is an electric powered vehicle expert (Solar Challenge Darwin to Adelaide) and wondering if you can offer thoughts on suitable electric vehicle which could be used around airfield and towing gliders. I am sure within a few years it will be the standard vehicle for airport use. > > Recently at Bathurst I noticed an electric skate board for personal transport to the launch point - now just need a larger glider towing version!!! > > Off topic I have heard overseas insurance companies may consider you are not covered for damage to a glider when towing behind a vehicle. May be a good reason for driving very slowly when towing glider as just maybe you may not be covered (esp if using other than factory gear). 18 months ago I heard about a Libelle Written Off!! being towed behind vehicle and many many gliders with about $5000 damage from towing behind a vehicle . > > Ian McPhee > > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
Towing on grass adds its own challenges to such a question - and certainly an electric vehicle may be heavier than an ICE based one. That said, under many circumstances more weight on a towing vehicle is better - else it might just sit there and spin its wheels. For towing on hard surfaces, there are already a variety of electric-powered towing devices on the market. This is one that we use to move my PC-12 at Adelaide airport, they're brilliant - because you can walk along the wingtip while operating it and ensure clearance. It can also lift and rotate the nosewheel arbitrarily (in terms of direction) using a built in turntable: http://www.tracetowbots.com Not quite what you wanted for your application, but an indication that electric aircraft moving devices are starting to come into their own of late. Regards, Simon On 05/03/2013, at 2:49 PM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > All & Simon > > I hear Simon H is an electric powered vehicle expert (Solar Challenge Darwin > to Adelaide) and wondering if you can offer thoughts on suitable electric > vehicle which could be used around airfield and towing gliders. I am sure > within a few years it will be the standard vehicle for airport use. > > Recently at Bathurst I noticed an electric skate board for personal transport > to the launch point - now just need a larger glider towing version!!! > > Off topic I have heard overseas insurance companies may consider you are not > covered for damage to a glider when towing behind a vehicle. May be a good > reason for driving very slowly when towing glider as just maybe you may not > be covered (esp if using other than factory gear). 18 months ago I heard > about a Libelle Written Off!! being towed behind vehicle and many many > gliders with about $5000 damage from towing behind a vehicle . > > Ian McPhee > > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
It could have terry toweling canopy too. Large old beach towel would do the trick. -Original Message- From: Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:02 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikesaroundairfields I know of a gopher being used for this quite successfully. Cheap too second hand. Is that to get the pilot or the glider out to the launch pointinfo/aus-soaring? ;-) Beige flameproof suit and terry towelling hat on ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
I know of a gopher being used for this quite successfully. Cheap too second hand. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 05/03/2013, at 2:49 PM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > All & Simon > > I hear Simon H is an electric powered vehicle expert (Solar Challenge Darwin > to Adelaide) and wondering if you can offer thoughts on suitable electric > vehicle which could be used around airfield and towing gliders. I am sure > within a few years it will be the standard vehicle for airport use. > > Recently at Bathurst I noticed an electric skate board for personal transport > to the launch point - now just need a larger glider towing version!!! > > Off topic I have heard overseas insurance companies may consider you are not > covered for damage to a glider when towing behind a vehicle. May be a good > reason for driving very slowly when towing glider as just maybe you may not > be covered (esp if using other than factory gear). 18 months ago I heard > about a Libelle Written Off!! being towed behind vehicle and many many > gliders with about $5000 damage from towing behind a vehicle . > > Ian McPhee > > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
I'm sure I've seen electric-powered golf buggies being used on airfields somewhere. Great all-round visibility, some have a rear-facing seat for observation, canopy can be made of plexiglas or similar with UV film for sun protection, can be plugged in for re-charging as may be required. -- Nelson Handcock 0409 149919 http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
Hi Ian Writing in theoretical terms only, as I have no experience of an electric vehicle able to tow a glider. Damage to grass is a primary concern at Keepit except in years when we have extensive rain (about every 10 years). Damage to grass is directly related to the tyre pressures necessary to support the weight of the vehicle and rider. I have never heard anyone suggest that the weight of batteries + electric engine is less than the weight of an equivalent powered internal combustion engine. Please tell me if there is such a vehicle? Otherwise it is just an esoteric discussion with no particular purpose in mind. Regards Michael _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 3:20 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields All & Simon I hear Simon H is an electric powered vehicle expert (Solar Challenge Darwin to Adelaide) and wondering if you can offer thoughts on suitable electric vehicle which could be used around airfield and towing gliders. I am sure within a few years it will be the standard vehicle for airport use. Recently at Bathurst I noticed an electric skate board for personal transport to the launch point - now just need a larger glider towing version!!! Off topic I have heard overseas insurance companies may consider you are not covered for damage to a glider when towing behind a vehicle. May be a good reason for driving very slowly when towing glider as just maybe you may not be covered (esp if using other than factory gear). 18 months ago I heard about a Libelle Written Off!! being towed behind vehicle and many many gliders with about $5000 damage from towing behind a vehicle . Ian McPhee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
All & Simon I hear Simon H is an electric powered vehicle expert (Solar Challenge Darwin to Adelaide) and wondering if you can offer thoughts on suitable electric vehicle which could be used around airfield and towing gliders. I am sure within a few years it will be the standard vehicle for airport use. Recently at Bathurst I noticed an electric skate board for personal transport to the launch point - now just need a larger glider towing version!!! Off topic I have heard overseas insurance companies may consider you are not covered for damage to a glider when towing behind a vehicle. May be a good reason for driving very slowly when towing glider as just maybe you may not be covered (esp if using other than factory gear). 18 months ago I heard about a Libelle Written Off!! being towed behind vehicle and many many gliders with about $5000 damage from towing behind a vehicle . Ian McPhee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
