[Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Peter Champness]

Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?

Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything
in the new year?

Peter Champness
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Roger Druce]

Dear Peter,
Yes,
Gary Stevenson at Ararat.
He wrote it up in Soaring Australia magazine about 2 years ago with a 
fair bit off detail.

Cheers
Roger Druce

On 16/07/2013 3:01 PM, Peter Champness wrote:

Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?
Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring 
anything in the new year?

Peter Champness


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Rob Wintulich]

John Strickland from Caboolture has a Phoenix Motorglider probably on the water 
at the moment.  
Not sure if it is coming direct from Europe or via the US Selling Agent.

Rob W

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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?

Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything in 
the new year?

Peter Champness



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Ian Mc Phee]

Be real careful to have ZERO dirt in wheel well of glider and trailer,  NO
retreads on trailer (yes USA still use retreads on trailers) and you need
import permit for retreads.!!  as there may be dirt between tread and tyre
& get import permit now to import trailer. Hopefully  ASI is in knots (but
ASI must go 20kts above aircraft VNE) but you will need ALT with mb not
inches. I have used Garry brasher as customs agent and does a good job
always even if he goes on holidays. Some USA trailers have brake light
shared with turn indicator so ask and get your Aussie connector and
multimeter so you can sort out lights at Port pick up.

Ian m
On 16/07/2013 3:02 PM, "Peter Champness"  wrote:

> Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?
>
> Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything
> in the new year?
>
> Peter Champness
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Mike Borgelt]

At 05:34 PM 16/07/2013, you wrote:

Be real careful to have ZERO dirt in wheel well of glider and 
trailer,  NO retreads on trailer (yes USA still use retreads on 
trailers) and you need import permit for retreads.!!  as there may 
be dirt between tread and tyre & get import permit now to import 
trailer. Hopefully  ASI is in knots (but ASI must go 20kts above 
aircraft VNE) but you will need ALT with mb not inches. I have used 
Garry brasher as customs agent and does a good job always even if he 
goes on holidays. Some USA trailers have brake light shared with 
turn indicator so ask and get your Aussie connector and multimeter 
so you can sort out lights at Port pick up.


Ian m



Also the compass in a USA glider will be a northern hemisphere 
compass. You need a southern hemisphere version here.


If you are thinking WTF? you haven't been educated about aircraft 
magnetic compasses.


Mike




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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Erich Wittstock]

http://www.mail-archive.com/aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net/msg12806.html

On Tuesday, July 16, 2013, Peter Champness wrote:

> Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?
>
> Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything
> in the new year?
>
> Peter Champness
>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Wrights Clutch Service]

Don,t forget to apply to Feds in Canberra "To import a motor vehicle" - your 
trailer - or it WILL become embarrassing at entry time.
DJW
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Borgelt 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA


  At 05:34 PM 16/07/2013, you wrote:


Be real careful to have ZERO dirt in wheel well of glider and trailer,  NO 
retreads on trailer (yes USA still use retreads on trailers) and you need 
import permit for retreads.!!  as there may be dirt between tread and tyre & 
get import permit now to import trailer. Hopefully  ASI is in knots (but ASI 
must go 20kts above aircraft VNE) but you will need ALT with mb not inches. I 
have used Garry brasher as customs agent and does a good job always even if he 
goes on holidays. Some USA trailers have brake light shared with turn indicator 
so ask and get your Aussie connector and multimeter so you can sort out lights 
at Port pick up.  

Ian m



  Also the compass in a USA glider will be a northern hemisphere compass. You 
need a southern hemisphere version here.  

  If you are thinking WTF? you haven't been educated about aircraft magnetic 
compasses.

  Mike




  Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation 
since 1978
  www.borgeltinstruments.com
  tel:   07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784
  mob: 042835 5784 :  int+61-42835 5784
  P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia 



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Gary Stevenson]

Peter,

It would seem that you missed my write-up on your subject line, so firstly I
suggest that you peruse my article in Gliding Australia, from about 18 mths
ago - it may have been Issue 3 of the mag?  Maurice Little died in a glider
crash, but I think his firm  - ITM (International Trade Management), in
Tullamarine  will still  import a glider for you. I have no idea of their
current expertise. As I said in my article you need a reliable agent.
Maurice told me there are literally thousands of Customs and Shipping
brokers around; any one of which will organize the transport (and the much
else involved), for you. The operative word in the2nd last sentence is
RELIABLE: The word COMPETENT also springs to mind!

  

The points that other postees on this list  have made in response to your
question are all good, but are (mostly), not directly relevant to
"transport". Note however  that Gary Brasher told me about 12 mths ago that
he cannot now do this work - a great pity.

 

What is the relevance of your last question?

 

If you are NOT a "tyre kicker", feel free to contact me (off line please). 

 

 

Regards,

Gary

 

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter
Champness
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013 3:01 PM
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

 

Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?

 

Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything
in the new year?

 

Peter Champness

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Peter (PCS3)]

On 16/07/2013 5:48 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote:



Also the compass in a USA glider will be a northern hemisphere 
compass. You need a southern hemisphere version here.


If you are thinking WTF? you haven't been educated about aircraft 
magnetic compasses.


Mike

What sort do you use when flying around the equator?  Two compasses? 
(to  interfere with each other? :-) )

PeterS
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Gary Stevenson]

Hi Roger,

Thanks for that. Your post allows me to make a very important comment.

 

In my article in Gliding Australia  I  hope I covered ALL - rather than"
fair"- detail  on importing a glider, and then went on to cover what you
needed to do next, once you had the glider in your hot little hands.

 

What I would like to make perfectly clear here, is that what I wrote applied
specifically to a particular period in time. The finger of time has moved,
and inevitably this has brought change; so for anybody contemplating
importing a glider now, it is essential for them to do their research, and
find out what are the current requirements.

 

Caveat  emptor - let the buyer beware.  

 

Gary Stevenson

 

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Roger Druce
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013 3:21 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

 

Dear Peter,
Yes,
Gary Stevenson at Ararat.
He wrote it up in Soaring Australia magazine about 2 years ago with a fair
bit off detail.
Cheers
Roger Druce

On 16/07/2013 3:01 PM, Peter Champness wrote:

Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?

 

Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything
in the new year?

 

Peter Champness






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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Peter Champness]

Yes I was thinking WTF.  Can you eleborate?

Peter Champness


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mike Borgelt <
mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> wrote:

>  At 05:34 PM 16/07/2013, you wrote:
>
> Be real careful to have ZERO dirt in wheel well of glider and trailer,  NO
> retreads on trailer (yes USA still use retreads on trailers) and you need
> import permit for retreads.!!  as there may be dirt between tread and tyre
> & get import permit now to import trailer. Hopefully  ASI is in knots (but
> ASI must go 20kts above aircraft VNE) but you will need ALT with mb not
> inches. I have used Garry brasher as customs agent and does a good job
> always even if he goes on holidays. Some USA trailers have brake light
> shared with turn indicator so ask and get your Aussie connector and
> multimeter so you can sort out lights at Port pick up.
>
> Ian m
>
>
>
> Also the compass in a USA glider will be a northern hemisphere compass.
> You need a southern hemisphere version here.
>
> If you are thinking WTF? you haven't been educated about aircraft magnetic
> compasses.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[stephenk]

Dip.

SWK

On 16/07/2013 8:38 PM, Peter Champness wrote:

Yes I was thinking WTF.  Can you eleborate?
Peter Champness


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mike Borgelt 
> wrote:


At 05:34 PM 16/07/2013, you wrote:


Be real careful to have ZERO dirt in wheel well of glider and
trailer,  NO retreads on trailer (yes USA still use retreads on
trailers) and you need import permit for retreads.!!  as there
may be dirt between tread and tyre & get import permit now to
import trailer. Hopefully  ASI is in knots (but ASI must go 20kts
above aircraft VNE) but you will need ALT with mb not inches. I
have used Garry brasher as customs agent and does a good job
always even if he goes on holidays. Some USA trailers have brake
light shared with turn indicator so ask and get your Aussie
connector and multimeter so you can sort out lights at Port pick up.

Ian m



Also the compass in a USA glider will be a northern hemisphere
compass. You need a southern hemisphere version here.

If you are thinking WTF? you haven't been educated about aircraft
magnetic compasses.

Mike



*Borgelt Instruments*- /design & manufacture of quality soaring
instrumentation since 1978
/www.borgeltinstruments.com
tel:   07 4635
5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784
mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 
P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Jim Staniforth]

  Shipping USA to Aus you will likely use an American freight forwarding 
company, whether it's organised through a local contact like Gary Brasher or 
not.

My last experience with rates was that the price fluctuates with demand. Allow 
for a large window of time and the actual cost to ship can be almost cut in 
half. There's no cutting port fees and taxes.
I think that if you use a standard 40' container, not a high cube, the 
availability is better.

Be ready to deliver to the port (probably Long Beach or Oakland) when you 
finally get the sailing date.
  Its not easy to get two trailers in a container. Involves removing axles.

Jim



 From: Peter Champness 
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:01 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA
 


Has anyone importeda glider from the USA recently ie past few years?
 
Which transport company did you use?  Is anyone planning to bring anything in 
the new year?
 
Peter Champness
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA

[Mike Borgelt]

At 09:08 PM 16/07/2013, you wrote:

Yes I was thinking WTF.  Can you eleborate?

Peter Champness



I can but the best thing is to read up on it in a PPL theory book. It 
is covered quite well.


Mike






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[Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA (Peter C)

[Casey Jay Lewis]

Hi Peter,

I'm looking to bring my glider from the US in either late Oct 13 or late May 
14. Might you be interested in pooling resources?

Casey.  

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Importing a glider from the USA (Peter C)

[Peter Champness]

Hi Casey,

There were quite a few useful comments and advice.  WE might be able to
pool resources if you want to import after Jan 2014.  I don't think my
glider will be ready until then.

Peter Champness

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>
> I'm looking to bring my glider from the US in either late Oct 13 or late
> May 14. Might you be interested in pooling resources?
>
> Casey.
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