Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
I hate the mic gain and modulation pots in microair as they are far too sensitive and almost impossible to adjust. When all else fails I replace these 240deg pots of with a 10turn pot and it is possible to set up a microair. I hate Microair!!! I also find 3/4 radio problems is aerial. Even a relatively new duo discus was found to be way higher than 2to 1 A bit of foil tape on outside fin near base of aerial improved it greatly. It is hard to tell people there new $200k glider has a crop aerial. Ask John Press at Tamworth Airport how bad the duo discus really was. Ian mcphee On 27/08/2013 6:17 AM, "John Ashford" wrote: > Thanks Gary and everyone. > > My request was a last resort before sending it to Microair. I feel the > problem will be simple and yes I do have an array of test equipment at home. > > > Regards > > John > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: > aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Gary Stevenson > *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:54 AM > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 > > ** ** > > John, > > Obviously a manual exists. Have you tried obtaining it directly from > Microair? > > ** ** > > Some of the earlier radios (but not the earliest ones), had a problem when > the socket that holds the main IC was substituted for by the supplier. The > sides of the new socket distorted and bent, so that the IC pins did not all > make good contact. But as I recall the usual symptoms were NOT as you > describe – the display just showed strange “Japanese” writing. > > ** ** > > Have you tried talking to one of Microair’s service techs? > > ** ** > > Maybe Roger is right? A basic service costs less that the price of that > eBay manual. > > ** ** > > Gary > > ** ** > > *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [ > mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] > *On Behalf Of *jo...@optusnet.com.au > *Sent:* Monday, 26 August 2013 9:08 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 > > ** ** > > Here’s one for sale. Looks pricy? > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Microair-760-VHF-Aviation-Transceiver-Service-Manual-Avionics-/110998066462#ht_413wt_1161 > > > > > *From:* Roger Druce > > *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 7:12 PM > > *To:* aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 > > > > John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. > > My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of > this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. > > Regards > Roger Druce > > On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: > > This one? > http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf > > > > > *From:* John Ashford > > *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM > > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > Australia.' > > > *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 > > > > I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me > with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? > > > > > John > > > -- > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > -- > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13* > *** > > > > > > ___ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > ** ** > -- > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > -- > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
Thanks Gary and everyone. My request was a last resort before sending it to Microair. I feel the problem will be simple and yes I do have an array of test equipment at home. Regards John From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:54 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John, Obviously a manual exists. Have you tried obtaining it directly from Microair? Some of the earlier radios (but not the earliest ones), had a problem when the socket that holds the main IC was substituted for by the supplier. The sides of the new socket distorted and bent, so that the IC pins did not all make good contact. But as I recall the usual symptoms were NOT as you describe – the display just showed strange “Japanese” writing. Have you tried talking to one of Microair’s service techs? Maybe Roger is right? A basic service costs less that the price of that eBay manual. Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of jo...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013 9:08 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 Here’s one for sale. Looks pricy? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Microair-760-VHF-Aviation-Transceiver-Service-Manual-Avionics-/110998066462#ht_413wt_1161 From: Roger Druce <mailto:rogdr...@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:12 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John Ashford <mailto:john_ja...@iinet.net.au> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
Good thought John. I had the same problem years ago with a GPS unit. Bet JA is not so lucky for this to be his problem. Your advice seems sound too! Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John Parncutt Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013 10:31 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I would certainly recommend Rodgers advice. Repairs to these radio's should not be attempted by someone without specialist test equipment and knowledge, just about every aspect of the radio will be controlled by a microprocessor including the display contrast. By the way, the last time I thought I had a faulty LCD display (fading in and out) I had happened to put on an old pair of sunglasses which turned out to be polarized. The liquid crystal display reflects polarized light in one plane and the glasses blocked this light, with the effect that as soon as I tilted my head the display would came back!! Regards, John Parncutt From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Roger Druce Sent: 26 August, 2013 19:12 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM .pdf From: John Ashford <mailto:john_ja...@iinet.net.au> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I'm looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
John, Obviously a manual exists. Have you tried obtaining it directly from Microair? Some of the earlier radios (but not the earliest ones), had a problem when the socket that holds the main IC was substituted for by the supplier. The sides of the new socket distorted and bent, so that the IC pins did not all make good contact. But as I recall the usual symptoms were NOT as you describe – the display just showed strange “Japanese” writing. Have you tried talking to one of Microair’s service techs? Maybe Roger is right? A basic service costs less that the price of that eBay manual. Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of jo...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013 9:08 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 Here’s one for sale. Looks pricy? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Microair-760-VHF-Aviation-Transceiver-Service-Manual-Avionics-/110998066462#ht_413wt_1161 From: Roger <mailto:rogdr...@optusnet.com.au> Druce Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:12 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John <mailto:john_ja...@iinet.net.au> Ashford Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
I would certainly recommend Rodgers advice. Repairs to these radio's should not be attempted by someone without specialist test equipment and knowledge, just about every aspect of the radio will be controlled by a microprocessor including the display contrast. By the way, the last time I thought I had a faulty LCD display (fading in and out) I had happened to put on an old pair of sunglasses which turned out to be polarized. The liquid crystal display reflects polarized light in one plane and the glasses blocked this light, with the effect that as soon as I tilted my head the display would came back!! Regards, John Parncutt From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Roger Druce Sent: 26 August, 2013 19:12 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM .pdf From: John <mailto:john_ja...@iinet.net.au> Ashford Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I'm looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
Here’s one for sale. Looks pricy? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Microair-760-VHF-Aviation-Transceiver-Service-Manual-Avionics-/110998066462#ht_413wt_1161 From: Roger Druce Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:12 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John Ashford Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf *From:* John Ashford <mailto:john_ja...@iinet.net.au> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I'm looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
This one is just the user manual which is readily available. I need a service and repair manual that gets into the electronics of the device. Tks John From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of jo...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013 6:59 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John Ashford <mailto:john_ja...@iinet.net.au> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John Ashford Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Microair 760
I'm looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
