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Re: [AusNOG] XDA-Terrigal?

[Christopher Koob]

Hello,

If you're referring to Forresters Beach Retirement Village, it's handled by
these guys:

http://rasimple.com.au/

Regards,

Kooby

On 18 May 2018 at 13:00, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve+aus...@eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was looking for NBN Coverage at an address in Terrigal in an Aged Care
> facility and got this response.
>
> ---
> A pre-existing broadband service is already running in your area
> XDA-Terrigal already provides access to a broadband network in this area.
> ---
>
> I can't seem to find any reference to XDA-Terrigal... can anyone help?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>
> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ;  
> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
> Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - IPv4
> Brokering
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[AusNOG] Exetel corporate fibre issues?

[Luke Fong]

Just got an alert for one of my BGP sessions down.




Waiting for a call back from corporate support but was wondering if anyone was 
seeing the same?




Cheers


L




Kind Regards,




Luke Fong




Chief Executive Officer




Lateral Plains Pty Ltd




PO Box 549




Ballarat ,Vic 3353




Tel : 03 5317 7123







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[AusNOG] VPNFilter

[Jason Ross]

In case you haven’t see the news about this “State-Sponsored” malware called 
VPNFilter.

"The known devices affected by VPNFilter are Linksys, MikroTik, NETGEAR and 
TP-Link networking equipment in the small and home office (SOHO) space, as well 
at QNAP network-attached storage (NAS) devices."

https://blog.talosintelligence.com/2018/05/VPNFilter.html 


Jason

Jason Ross, CISSP, PCNSE7, PCNSI
 
Principal Consultant/Managing Director
EthiSEC Pty Ltd

Cyber Security Consultants
 
Level 9, Avaya House
123 Epping Rd, North Ryde 2113

O: 1300 67 22 75
D: 02 8209 6488
M: 0401 988 248


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Re: [AusNOG] Exetel corporate fibre issues?

[Houtan Larijani]

Hey Luke,



Their residential NBN service went down in a couple of Melbourne eastern
suburbs this morning around 8am and they’re still down. I’ve not heard
about their corp’s fiber as of yet.



Cheers



*From:* AusNOG  *On Behalf Of *Luke Fong
*Sent:* Thursday, 24 May 2018 7:25 AM
*To:* AusNOG Mailing List 
*Subject:* [AusNOG] Exetel corporate fibre issues?



Just got an alert for one of my BGP sessions down.

Waiting for a call back from corporate support but was wondering if anyone
was seeing the same?

Cheers

L

Kind Regards,

Luke Fong

Chief Executive Officer

Lateral Plains Pty Ltd

PO Box 549

Ballarat ,Vic 3353

Tel : 03 5317 7123
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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Tony Miles]

Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie"  wrote:

> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Bradley
> Amm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company
> comes up with a product that can roam between all networks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Brenden
> Cruikshank
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to
> use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I
> selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just
> coverage but actually reliable data speeds.
>
>
>
> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean
> my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 /
> 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went
> to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an
> emergency hopefully someone is on another carrier
>
>
>
> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was
> out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra
> outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??
>
>
>
> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-
> seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-
> 20180522-p4zgo5.html
>
>
>
> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a
> small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The
> outages have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18
> months left on my contact.
>
>
>
> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data
> outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer.
> Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal
> thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t
> as simple as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did
> think about it on the data side).
>
>
>
> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had
> 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so
> much more reliable.
>
>
>
> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan.
> It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!
>
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236
>
>
>
> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with
> minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton  wrote:
>
> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages
> (or any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on
> what to do about it. well, not good.
>
>
>
> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the
> level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread
> should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you
> think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the
> cheapest, but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of
> trust" means zero downtime?"
>
>
>
> It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could
> totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a
> tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those considering a
> bulletproof system in the 90s still had a backup incase of a Telstra outage.
>
>
>
> But back to the OP, Telstra dropping 000 should be hounded like no
> tomorrow. People think power gas is essential services, but 000 is actually
> essential. Is anyone monitoring the ACMA or whoever responses to these
> events and the lapsing of SLAs?
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2018 at 22:22, Karen Hargreave  wrote:
>
> Ok, devils advocate side to the rant..
>
>
>
> Firstly, let me say that I am not against your idea in the sense that
> there is definitely a need for small businesses to be more agile.
>
>
>
> Ok, that said. Yes, one could think that a small business could be more
> agile, but then, they pay for a service. It probably isn't the cheapest,
> but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of trust.
> Small businesses generally don't have the ability to reach into a draw and
> pick up a sim from another provider just to keep them on the air. Even if
> they can, how do they tell their customers of a phone number change? Who do
> t

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Bradley Amm]

Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that sims
network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.

You can still make calls




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Tony Miles 
Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
To: Mark Currie 
Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie"  wrote:

> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Bradley
> Amm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company
> comes up with a product that can roam between all networks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Brenden
> Cruikshank
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to
> use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I
> selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just
> coverage but actually reliable data speeds.
>
>
>
> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean
> my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 /
> 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went
> to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an
> emergency hopefully someone is on another carrier
>
>
>
> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was
> out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra
> outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??
>
>
>
> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-
> seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-
> 20180522-p4zgo5.html
>
>
>
> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a
> small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The
> outages have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18
> months left on my contact.
>
>
>
> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data
> outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer.
> Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal
> thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t
> as simple as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did
> think about it on the data side).
>
>
>
> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had
> 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so
> much more reliable.
>
>
>
> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan.
> It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!
>
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236
>
>
>
> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with
> minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton  wrote:
>
> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages
> (or any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on
> what to do about it. well, not good.
>
>
>
> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the
> level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread
> should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you
> think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the
> cheapest, but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of
> trust" means zero downtime?"
>
>
>
> It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could
> totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a
> tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those considering a
> bulletproof system in the 90s still had a backup incase of a Telstra outage.
>
>
>
> But back to the OP, Telstra dropping 000 should be hounded like no
> tomorrow. People think power gas is essential services, but 000 is actually
> essential. Is anyone monitoring the ACMA or whoever responses to these
> events and the lapsing of SLAs?
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2018 at 22:22, Karen Hargreave  wrote:
>
> Ok, devils advocate side to the rant..
>
>
>
> Firstly, let me say that I am not against your idea in the sense that
> there is definitely a need for small businesses to be more agile.
>
>
>
> Ok, that said. Yes, one could think that a small bu

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Christopher Hawker]

That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2 
providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.


CH.


From: AusNOG  on behalf of Bradley Amm 

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
To: Tony Miles; Mark Currie
Cc: <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>,
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that sims 
network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.

You can still make calls




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Tony Miles mailto:tmile...@gmail.com>>
Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
To: Mark Currie mailto:mcur...@laserfast.com.au>>
Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" 
mailto:mcur...@laserfast.com.au>> wrote:

There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)

Mark



From: AusNOG 
[mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net]
 On Behalf Of Bradley Amm
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?



It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company comes up 
with a product that can roam between all networks





From: AusNOG 
[mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net]
 On Behalf Of Brenden Cruikshank
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?



I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to use 
Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I selected 
Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just coverage but 
actually reliable data speeds.



Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean my 
phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 / 112??? 
I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went to 
voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an emergency 
hopefully someone is on another carrier



This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was out on 
Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra outage have 
affected emergency services once they arrived??



https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html



Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a small 
number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The outages 
have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18 months left 
on my contact.



At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data outages 
on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer. Business is in 
contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal thing and phones are 
too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t as simple as that. (We 
did get a second internet service so I guess we did think about it on the data 
side).



On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had 100% 
uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so much more 
reliable.



Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan. It’s 
cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236



And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with minimal 
to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.





Sent from my iPhone

On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton 
mailto:jos...@railgun.com.au>> wrote:

If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages (or 
any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on what to 
do about it. well, not good.



The smallest business has the ability, even if not the 
intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the level 
of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread should be 
enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you think something 
like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the cheapest, but they pay for 
it anyhow because the name brings an element of trust" means zero downtime?"



It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could 
totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a tight 
SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those considering a bulletproof system 
in the 90s still had a backup incase of a Telstra outage.



But back to the OP, Tel

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Brenden Cruikshank]

You also have the ability to forward calls "Unreachable", that may suit
some use cases, but most telc's charge like 5c/30 seconds for this...


On Thu, 24 May 2018 at 13:18, Christopher Hawker 
wrote:

> That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2
providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.


> CH.

> 
> From: AusNOG  on behalf of Bradley Amm <
b...@bradleyamm.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
> To: Tony Miles; Mark Currie
> Cc: <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>,
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

> Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that
sims network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.

> You can still make calls




> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

>  Original message 
> From: Tony Miles 
> Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
> To: Mark Currie 
> Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

> Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

> On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie"  wrote:

> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)

> Mark



> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
Bradley Amm
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
> To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?



> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company
comes up with a product that can roam between all networks





> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
Brenden Cruikshank
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
> To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?



> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to
use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I
selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just
coverage but actually reliable data speeds.



> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this
mean my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for
000 / 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all
went to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an
emergency hopefully someone is on another carrier



> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was
out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra
outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??




https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html



> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a
small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The
outages have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18
months left on my contact.



> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data
outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer.
Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal
thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t
as simple as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did
think about it on the data side).



> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had
100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so
much more reliable.



> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan.
It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!

> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236



> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with
minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.





> Sent from my iPhone


> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton  wrote:

> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages
(or any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on
what to do about it. well, not good.



> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the
level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread
should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you
think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the
cheapest, but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of
trust" means zero downtime?"



> It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could
totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a
tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those considering a
bulletproof system in the 90s still had a backup incase of a Telstra outage.



> But back to the OP, Telstra dropping 000 should be hounded like no
tomorrow. Peo

[AusNOG] Australia Post / Poli Payments Network Contact

[Shane Chrisp]

Hi,

 Is there are Australia Post or Poli payments network admin / support 
person on list who can assist with diagnosing connectivity issues 
between us?


One of our clients is having issues reaching the Poli service via our 
network in the last couple of days.


--
Regards

Shane Chrisp
2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
Mb 0412 409 856
Email sh...@2000cn.com.au
Web http://www.2000cn.com.au

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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Jay Dixon]

then we'd have a trail of emails 50-deep about a SIP provider outage ;)

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Christopher Hawker 
wrote:

> That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2
> providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.
>
>
> CH.
> --
> *From:* AusNOG  on behalf of Bradley Amm
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
> *To:* Tony Miles; Mark Currie
> *Cc:* <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>,
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
> Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that
> sims network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.
>
> You can still make calls
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Tony Miles 
> Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
> To: Mark Currie 
> Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
> Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)
>
> On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie"  wrote:
>
> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Bradley
> Amm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company
> comes up with a product that can roam between all networks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Brenden
> Cruikshank
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to
> use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I
> selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just
> coverage but actually reliable data speeds.
>
>
>
> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean
> my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 /
> 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went
> to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an
> emergency hopefully someone is on another carrier
>
>
>
> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was
> out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra
> outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??
>
>
>
> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-s
> eriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-2018
> 0522-p4zgo5.html
>
>
>
> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a
> small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The
> outages have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18
> months left on my contact.
>
>
>
> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data
> outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer.
> Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal
> thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t
> as simple as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did
> think about it on the data side).
>
>
>
> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had
> 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so
> much more reliable.
>
>
>
> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan.
> It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!
>
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236
>
>
>
> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with
> minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton  wrote:
>
> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages
> (or any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on
> what to do about it. well, not good.
>
>
>
> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the
> level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread
> should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you
> think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the
> cheapest, but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of
> trust" means zero downtime?"
>
>
>
> It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could
> totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a
> tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those considering a
> bulletproof system in the 90s still had a backup incase of a Telstra outag

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Nick Stallman]

FYI I believe NSW bracelets did actually roam and didn't have an outage.

The other states were cheapskates and didn't pay for roaming. :)


On 24/05/18 11:58, Tony Miles wrote:

Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" > wrote:


There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)

Mark

*From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
] *On Behalf Of *Bradley Amm
*Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
*To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a
company comes up with a product that can roam between all networks

*From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
] *On Behalf Of *Brenden
Cruikshank
*Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
*To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my
choice to use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the
oncall and I selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network.
It’s not just coverage but actually reliable data speeds.

Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does
this mean my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another
network for 000 / 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and
my incoming calls all went to voicemail. My guess is I would be
unable to call 000/112 and in an emergency hopefully someone is on
another carrier

This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if
Telstra was out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances?
Would the Telstra outage have affected emergency services once
they arrived??


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html




Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or
“affected a small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning
it nation wide. The outages have been higher then usual over the
last 6 months but I’ve got 18 months left on my contact.

At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or
data outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or
longer. Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted
as a normal thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what
to do about it” isn’t as simple as that. (We did get a second
internet service so I guess we did think about it on the data side).

On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service,
it’s had 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology
just seems so much more reliable.

Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their
$10/mo plan. It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236



And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane
with minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton mailto:jos...@railgun.com.au>> wrote:

If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these
Telstra outages (or any of their provider outages really) and
getting the ball rolling on what to do about it. well, not
good.

The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely
on and the level of continuity they require. Literally even
just reading this thread should be enough to raise the
appropriate questions, such as "why do you think something
like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the cheapest,
but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element
of trust" means zero downtime?"

It is interesting that there has been a shift between services
you could totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those
you can't even with a tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the
reality is those considering a bulletproof system in the 90s
still had a backup incase of a Telstra outage.

But back to the OP, Telstra dropping 000 should be hounded
like no tomorrow. People think power gas is essential
services, but 000 is actually essential. Is anyone monitoring
the ACMA or whoever resp

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Bradley Amm]

Yes but how times in the last year have we had a full telstra or  vocus sip
outage lasting half a day



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Jay Dixon 
Date: 24/5/18 12:54 pm (GMT+08:00)
To: Christopher Hawker 
Cc: Bradley Amm , Tony Miles ,
Mark Currie , "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," <
ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

then we'd have a trail of emails 50-deep about a SIP provider outage ;)

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Christopher Hawker 
wrote:

> That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2
> providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.
>
>
> CH.
> --
> *From:* AusNOG  on behalf of Bradley Amm
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
> *To:* Tony Miles; Mark Currie
> *Cc:* <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>,
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
> Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that
> sims network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.
>
> You can still make calls
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Tony Miles 
> Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
> To: Mark Currie 
> Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
> Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)
>
> On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie"  wrote:
>
> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Bradley
> Amm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company
> comes up with a product that can roam between all networks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Brenden
> Cruikshank
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>
>
>
> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to
> use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I
> selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just
> coverage but actually reliable data speeds.
>
>
>
> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean
> my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 /
> 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went
> to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an
> emergency hopefully someone is on another carrier
>
>
>
> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was
> out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra
> outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??
>
>
>
> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-s
> eriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-2018
> 0522-p4zgo5.html
>
>
>
> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a
> small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The
> outages have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18
> months left on my contact.
>
>
>
> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data
> outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer.
> Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal
> thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t
> as simple as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did
> think about it on the data side).
>
>
>
> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had
> 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so
> much more reliable.
>
>
>
> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan.
> It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!
>
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236
>
>
>
> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with
> minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton  wrote:
>
> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages
> (or any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on
> what to do about it. well, not good.
>
>
>
> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the
> level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread
> should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you
> think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't t

[AusNOG] Vocus Voice Issue?

[Andrew Barbara]

Hey All,

Anyone else seeing issues with Vocus Voice services?

Their support line is busy, and has a message saying potential outages.

Cheers


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[AusNOG] ASR 903 Shaping

[David Fowler]

Hi folks

Does anyone know if it’s possible to enter in a lower BC value in a Shaping 
policy? Seems with this platform the lowest is 6 bits… this doesn’t help 
when we need to configure 4Mbps Telstra EA policies…

Maybe a different software version?

Regards,

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Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Voice Issue?

[Chris]

Hi,

On 24/05/2018 1:34 PM, Andrew Barbara wrote:

Anyone else seeing issues with Vocus Voice services?

Their support line is busy, and has a message saying potential outages.


I have a Vocus transit service down in Perth currently (only the shadow 
service, the primary is still fine), I just got through on the phone to 
them and there is a known issue at the moment. See the status page here 
for updates: http://status.vocus.com.au/view-incident.aspx?IncidentID=429


I would say the issue is related to that.

I also noticed our MegaPort traffic seems to have dropped a lot on Perth 
IX. The graphs for PerthIX look "interesting" to say the least: 
https://www.megaport.com/services/ix-statistics/

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Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Voice Issue?

[Andrew Barbara]

Looks like our ip transit and voice access port are flapping.

Cheers

Andrew

On 24 May 2018 1:38 pm, Chris  wrote:
Hi,

On 24/05/2018 1:34 PM, Andrew Barbara wrote:
> Anyone else seeing issues with Vocus Voice services?
>
> Their support line is busy, and has a message saying potential outages.

I have a Vocus transit service down in Perth currently (only the shadow
service, the primary is still fine), I just got through on the phone to
them and there is a known issue at the moment. See the status page here
for updates: http://status.vocus.com.au/view-incident.aspx?IncidentID=429

I would say the issue is related to that.

I also noticed our MegaPort traffic seems to have dropped a lot on Perth
IX. The graphs for PerthIX look "interesting" to say the least:
https://www.megaport.com/services/ix-statistics/
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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Narelle Clark]

Frankly I have huge concerns about the strength of operational support
and the general robustness of both SDN and 4G given the rush to
implement and the significant structural changes to networking both
represent.

That to my mind is what is at the core of this.


Narelle
[speaking purely as an independent professional here...]

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Mark Tees  wrote:
> On 23 May 2018 at 08:36, Brenden Cruikshank  wrote:
>> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had
>> 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so much
>> more reliable.
>
> Well, I am just guessing here so please feel free to correct me but
> Frame relay delivered services would likely have been: service ->
> frame relay gear -> ATM/SDH/POS/DWDM stuff -> frame relay gear ->
> service termination
>
> These days lots of things just live on shared IP network land and end
> up in shared domains to some extent for convenience, cost, simplicity
> etc etc.
>
> In the past it seems like the transport elements of the network were
> primarily the shared infrastructure with much smaller problem domains.
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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Karen Hargreave]

Dual sim, VoIP app on the phone, then tell everyone to call the number linked 
to the VoIP number *shrug* not hard, just a pain

Sent from my iPad

> On 24 May 2018, at 1:18 pm, Christopher Hawker  
> wrote:
> 
> That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2 
> providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.
> 
> CH.
> From: AusNOG  on behalf of Bradley Amm 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
> To: Tony Miles; Mark Currie
> Cc: <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>,
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>  
> Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that sims 
> network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.
> 
> You can still make calls
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Tony Miles 
> Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
> To: Mark Currie 
> Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
> 
> Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)
> 
> On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie"  wrote:
> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)
> 
> Mark
> 
>  
> 
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bradley Amm
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
> To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
> 
>  
> 
> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company comes 
> up with a product that can roam between all networks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Brenden 
> Cruikshank
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
> To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
> 
>  
> 
> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to use 
> Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I selected 
> Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just coverage but 
> actually reliable data speeds. 
> 
>  
> 
> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean my 
> phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 / 
> 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went to 
> voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an emergency 
> hopefully someone is on another carrier 
> 
>  
> 
> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was out 
> on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra outage 
> have affected emergency services once they arrived??
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a small 
> number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The outages 
> have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18 months 
> left on my contact. 
> 
>  
> 
> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data 
> outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer. Business 
> is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal thing and 
> phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t as simple 
> as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did think about 
> it on the data side). 
> 
>  
> 
> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had 100% 
> uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so much more 
> reliable. 
> 
>  
> 
> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan. 
> It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do! 
> 
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236 
> 
>  
> 
> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with 
> minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton  wrote:
> 
> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages (or 
> any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on what to 
> do about it. well, not good.
> 
>  
> 
> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the 
> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the 
> level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread 
> should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you 
> think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the cheapest, 
> but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of trust" means 
> zero downtime?"
> 
>  
> 
> It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could 
> totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a 
> tight SLA (T

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Nick Stallman]

If you had SMS via VoIP that would be *really* perfect.


On 24/05/18 15:52, Karen Hargreave wrote:
Dual sim, VoIP app on the phone, then tell everyone to call the number 
linked to the VoIP number *shrug* not hard, just a pain


Sent from my iPad

On 24 May 2018, at 1:18 pm, Christopher Hawker > wrote:


That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 
2 providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.



CH.


*From:* AusNOG > on behalf of Bradley Amm 
mailto:b...@bradleyamm.com>>

*Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
*To:* Tony Miles; Mark Currie
*Cc:* <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net >,
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If 
that sims network provider is down you still wont get calls to that 
number.


You can still make calls




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Tony Miles mailto:tmile...@gmail.com>>
Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
To: Mark Currie >
Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net >," 
mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>>

Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" > wrote:


There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)

Mark

*From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
] *On Behalf Of *Bradley Amm
*Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
*To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a
company comes up with a product that can roam between all networks

*From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
] *On Behalf Of *Brenden
Cruikshank
*Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
*To:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my
choice to use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the
oncall and I selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile
network. It’s not just coverage but actually reliable data speeds.

Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does
this mean my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to
another network for 000 / 112??? I was unable to make outbound
calls and my incoming calls all went to voicemail. My guess is I
would be unable to call 000/112 and in an emergency hopefully
someone is on another carrier

This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if
Telstra was out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances?
Would the Telstra outage have affected emergency services once
they arrived??


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html




Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or
“affected a small number of users” meanwhile people are
mentioning it nation wide. The outages have been higher then
usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18 months left on my
contact.

At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice
or data outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day
or longer. Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just
accepted as a normal thing and phones are too hard so “thinking
about what to do about it” isn’t as simple as that. (We did get a
second internet service so I guess we did think about it on the
data side).

On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service,
it’s had 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old
technology just seems so much more reliable.

Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their
$10/mo plan. It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236



And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in
Brisbane with minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton
mailto:jos...@railgun.com.au>> wrote:

If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these

Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Voice Issue?

[Roger Lienert]

Hi All,

We’ve had an anomaly on a Border router in Perth, unsure of the exact cause at 
this point, we lost some BGP sessions with all services now restored.

Was unrelated to any human activity, investigation continues.

Regards,
Roger

From: AusNOG  on behalf of Andrew Barbara 

Date: Thursday, 24 May 2018 3:34 pm
To: "'ausnog@lists.ausnog.net'" 
Subject: [AusNOG] Vocus Voice Issue?

Hey All,

Anyone else seeing issues with Vocus Voice services?

Their support line is busy, and has a message saying potential outages.

Cheers


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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[Sam Mahar]

Could just hang a birdcage off the phone and deliver SMS via IPoAC?

 

From: AusNOG  On Behalf Of Nick Stallman
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:09 PM
To: Karen Hargreave ; Christopher Hawker 

Cc: Tony Miles ; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

 

If you had SMS via VoIP that would be *really* perfect.

 

On 24/05/18 15:52, Karen Hargreave wrote:

Dual sim, VoIP app on the phone, then tell everyone to call the number linked 
to the VoIP number *shrug* not hard, just a pain

Sent from my iPad


On 24 May 2018, at 1:18 pm, Christopher Hawker mailto:m...@chrishawker.com.au> > wrote:

That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2 
providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.

 

CH.

  _  

From: AusNOG mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> > on behalf of Bradley Amm 
mailto:b...@bradleyamm.com> >
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM
To: Tony Miles; Mark Currie
Cc: <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net  >,
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? 

 

Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that sims 
network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number.

 

You can still make calls

 

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

 Original message 

From: Tony Miles mailto:tmile...@gmail.com> > 

Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00) 

To: Mark Currie mailto:mcur...@laserfast.com.au> > 

Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net  >," 
mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> > 

Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? 

 

Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)

 

On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" mailto:mcur...@laserfast.com.au> > wrote:

There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)

Mark 

 

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net 
 ] On Behalf Of Bradley Amm
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net  
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

 

It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company comes up 
with a product that can roam between all networks

 

 

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net 
 ] On Behalf Of Brenden Cruikshank
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net  
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

 

I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to use 
Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I selected 
Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just coverage but 
actually reliable data speeds. 

 

Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean my 
phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 / 112??? 
I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went to 
voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an emergency 
hopefully someone is on another carrier 

 

This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was out on 
Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra outage have 
affected emergency services once they arrived??

 

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html
 

 

Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a small 
number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The outages 
have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18 months left 
on my contact. 

 

At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data outages 
on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer. Business is in 
contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal thing and phones are 
too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t as simple as that. (We 
did get a second internet service so I guess we did think about it on the data 
side). 

 

On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had 100% 
uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so much more 
reliable. 

 

Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan. It’s 
cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do! 

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236 

 

And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with minimal 
to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra. 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton mailto:jos...@railgun.com.au> > wrote:

If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages (or 
any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on what to 
do about it. well, 

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?

[James Hodgkinson]

What, like whatsapp/slack/irc/email/whatever? :)


On Thu, 24 May 2018, at 16:09, Nick Stallman wrote:
> If you had SMS via VoIP that would be *really* perfect.


> 
> On 24/05/18 15:52, Karen Hargreave wrote:
>> Dual sim, VoIP app on the phone, then tell everyone to call the
>> number linked to the VoIP number *shrug* not hard, just a pain>> 
>>  Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 24 May 2018, at 1:18 pm, Christopher Hawker
>>  wrote:>> 
>>> That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful,
>>> 2 providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.>>> 


>>> CH.


>>> 
>>> *From:* AusNOG  on behalf of
>>> Bradley Amm  *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018
>>> 1:06:17 PM *To:* Tony Miles; Mark Currie *Cc:*
>>> <,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>, *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra
>>> mobile issues again?>>>  
>>> Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If
>>> that sims network provider is down you still wont get calls to that
>>> number.>>> 
>>> You can still make calls
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Tony Miles 
>>> Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00)
>>> To: Mark Currie 
>>> Cc: "<,ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>," 
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
>>> 
>>> Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)>>> 
>>> On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" 
>>> wrote:>>> 
 There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-)


 Mark


  


 *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Bradley Amm *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM *To:*
 ausnog@lists.ausnog.net *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile
 issues again?  


 It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a
 company comes up with a product that can roam between all networks  


  


 *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Brenden Cruikshank *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM *To:*
 ausnog@lists.ausnog.net *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile
 issues again?  


 I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my
 choice to use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the
 oncall and I selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network.
 It’s not just coverage but actually reliable data speeds.  


 Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does
 this mean my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another
 network for 000 / 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my
 incoming calls all went to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable
 to call 000/112 and in an emergency hopefully someone is on another
 carrier  


 This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra
 was out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the
 Telstra outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??  


 https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html
   


 Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected
 a small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation
 wide. The outages have been higher then usual over the last 6
 months but I’ve got 18 months left on my contact.  


 At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or
 data outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or
 longer. Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted
 as a normal thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what
 to do about it” isn’t as simple as that. (We did get a second
 internet service so I guess we did think about it on the data
 side).  


 On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service,
 it’s had 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology
 just seems so much more reliable.  


 Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo
 plan. It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do! 
 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236
   


 And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane
 with minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.  


  


 Sent from my iPhone


 
 On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton 
 wrote:> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these 
 Telstra
> outages (or any of their provider outages really) and getting the
> ball rolling on what to do about it. well, not good.>  


> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the
> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on
> and the level of continuity they require. Literally even j