Re: [AusNOG] 10M Telstra EA Fibre Shaping Values

[Nathan Brookfield]

This is also dependent on the Class of Service.  Standard, Premium, Priority, 
expedited etc.

Nathan Brookfield
Chief Executive Officer

Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
http://www.simtronic.com.au

On 29 Jun 2018, at 12:32, Brad McEvoy 
mailto:brad.mce...@overthewire.com.au>> wrote:

Hi Terry,

Is this what you are after?

Service CPE Traffic Shaping Info





PIR (Mbps)


L3 rate (Mbps)


Shaping Burst: CBS (kBytes)


Shaping Burst: CBS (bps)


0.512


0.50


4


32000


1.024


1.00


4


32000


2.048


2.01


4


32000


3.072


3.01


4


32000


4.096


4.02


4


32000


6


5.88


6


48000


8


7.84


8


64000


10


9.80


10


8


20


19.60


18


144000


30


29.40


28


224000


40


39.20


35


28


50


49.00


44


352000


60


58.80


52


416000


70


68.60


62


496000


80


78.40


70


56


90


88.20


78


624000


100


98.00


88


704000


150


147.00


130


104


200


196.00


170


136


300


294.00


262


2096000


400


392.00


350


280


500


490.00


420


336


600


588.00


500


400


800


784.00


670


536


1000


980.00


850


680







Brad McEvoy



On 29 June 2018 at 12:19, Terry Laws 
mailto:terrylaw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey

Does anyone have the shaping parameters handy for the Telstra EA Fibre 
services?  I am after the excess burst values they make you set on PE and CE 
routers.


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Re: [AusNOG] 10M Telstra EA Fibre Shaping Values

[Brad McEvoy]

Hi Terry,

Is this what you are after?

*Service CPE Traffic Shaping Info*



*PIR (Mbps)*

*L3 rate (Mbps)*

*Shaping Burst: CBS (kBytes)*

*Shaping Burst: CBS (bps)*

0.512

0.50

4

32000

1.024

1.00

4

32000

2.048

2.01

4

32000

3.072

3.01

4

32000

4.096

4.02

4

32000

6

5.88

6

48000

8

7.84

8

64000

10

9.80

10

8

20

19.60

18

144000

30

29.40

28

224000

40

39.20

35

28

50

49.00

44

352000

60

58.80

52

416000

70

68.60

62

496000

80

78.40

70

56

90

88.20

78

624000

100

98.00

88

704000

150

147.00

130

104

200

196.00

170

136

300

294.00

262

2096000

400

392.00

350

280

500

490.00

420

336

600

588.00

500

400

800

784.00

670

536

1000

980.00

850

680





Brad McEvoy



On 29 June 2018 at 12:19, Terry Laws  wrote:

> Hey
>
> Does anyone have the shaping parameters handy for the Telstra EA Fibre
> services?  I am after the excess burst values they make you set on PE and
> CE routers.
>
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[AusNOG] 10M Telstra EA Fibre Shaping Values

[Terry Laws]

 Hey

Does anyone have the shaping parameters handy for the Telstra EA Fibre
services?  I am after the excess burst values they make you set on PE and
CE routers.
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Re: [AusNOG] Mikrotik routers in HA environments

[David Walsh]

> On 26 Jun 2018, at 12:19 pm, Rob Thomas  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can a pair of Mikrotik routers be configured for a *reliable* HA scenario ?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Yep, using VRRP, they work really well. You don't even need any 'tricky' bits 
> - for example, if you bind your BGP to the floating IP address, it won't 
> start the BGP session until the IP address is present.
> 
> One small warning: If you use VRRP (which puts the interface into promiscuous 
> mode), *and* you're using VMware to run them on, *AND* you're using VDS for 
> your switch configuration, you will get duplicate ICMP responses when you 
> ping the routers.
> 
> This is vaguely handwaved away by vmware in 
> https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2144849 
>  as 'expected', and it IS only ICMP, 
> normal TCP and UDP packets seem fine, and it's only to IP addresses that 
> terminate AT the router, not for traffic through it.


Hi Rob,
   I had/have this issue with a virtual PfSense firewall and CARP.   (I 
am on cisco UCS with 10 Gig connectivity.) 
I had both nics in my VDS as primary. What I did was move one nic to be Standby 
for the Vds portgroup and that fixed the DUP issue. The redundancy is still 
there…..you just don’t get to load balance across both nics but with 10 Gig and 
up, that is not really an issue like it was with 1 Gbps connections.

Cheers,
   David



> 
> So, the quick runthrough is create a VRRP interface, bind it to a physical 
> (or vlan), assign a bogus IP address to each physical interface - I 
> habitually use rfc6598 address space of 100.64.0.0/10  
> - and then assign (the same!) floating IP Address to the VRRP interface on 
> both nodes.
> 
> There are VRRP triggers you can run (there's a 'scripts' value) so you can do 
> a webhook or something if the link changes.
> 
> I also recommend the CCR's - theyre' a great piece of hardware.
> 
> --Rob
> 
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Re: [AusNOG] New IP range being Geoblocked by Foxtel Streaming

[Jim Woodward]

On 28-06-2018 18:18, Mark Andrews wrote: 

I could not agree more, It should be on the onus of the streaming
service that if they are blocking to a Region by IP that they keep that
info up to date. I detest the fact that Geoblocking even exists, even
more when Foxtel are too lazy to keep on top of their whitelistings. 

> The customer should call the ACCC.  Foxtel are taking the money and
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Re: [AusNOG] New IP range being Geoblocked by Foxtel Streaming

[Mark Andrews]

The customer should call the ACCC.  Foxtel are taking the money and
not delivering the product.

> On 15 Jun 2018, at 2:11 pm, Louis Crossing  wrote:
> 
> Had this issue many times.
> 
> casops.cas...@foxtel.com.au
> 02 9813 9070
> 
> Send them an email, follow it up with a phone call maybe a day later if you 
> haven't heard anything.
> Casops don't fix it directly but they can contact the people that can; they 
> sometimes just need a bit of a nudge to follow it up. It's taken a few months 
> sometimes for it to be resolved.
> 
> Indeed, front-line support have been less than useless.
> 
> On 15 June 2018 at 11:42, Isaac Lo  wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have a new allocated range from APNIC, however it appears the Foxtel Go 
> streaming service sees this range as "not in australia". The range in 
> question does show up as being in australia when using looks via 
> speedtest.net and whatismyip services. So several geoip databases have been 
> updated.
> 
> Anyone have a contact that can help me get changed?
> 
> Going via the front door, the Foxtel support desk blames us for being 
> overseas even though we are not.
> 
> Regards
> Isaac
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Re: [AusNOG] Mikrotik routers in HA environments

[Darren Moss]

Thanks everyone for the feedback and input on this.

I won’t push ahead with Mikrotik for this new deployment, however I have 
ordered a pair of Cloud Routers to run up in our test environment with a view 
to doing something down the track.

Cheers


Darren.

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Philip 
Loenneker
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2018 3:49 PM
To: Ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Mikrotik routers in HA environments

I can also vouch for VRRP working really well on Mikrotik gear.

For those that are concerned about the BGP processing time, consider the 
virtual version, the CHR. The licenses are dirt cheap ($250 USD for a perpetual 
license that allows unlimited throughput), and because the Mikrotik BGP process 
is single-threaded, the higher clock speed you can throw at it compared to the 
Tilera chipset makes a huge difference. You also remove some concerns about 
hardware failure, as long as you have a resilient hypervisor platform.

Take a look at this recent Mikrotik User Meeting Presentation where they 
compare BGP and routing performance for the CHR on different hypervisors:
https://youtu.be/xcgdGA1W_0o
The slides are here, including the comparison tables:
https://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/EU18/presentation_5188_1524562405.pdf


From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Alex Samad
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2018 3:01 PM
To: Mike Everest 
Cc: Ausnog 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Mikrotik routers in HA environments

Hi

Like them cheap and have been reliable - noted about the power supplies.

I have 4 upstream full feeds . takes a very very long time to process.

also the ccr's have a limitation not really mention 1 tcp stream can only go 
1Gbs, the box can do more, its around the driver and the cpu setup - this is a 
long long wish list request.


But I like them..  did i mean they are cheap :)






On 26 June 2018 at 13:08, Mike Everest 
mailto:m...@duxtel.com>> wrote:
Darren,

As others have already confirmed, RouterOS is suitable for that kind of 
application, but since you mentioned ‘Cisco’, I wanted to point out a very 
significant difference from what you might be used to:  MikroTik do not offer 
any kind of support contract

Now for some, that may be a good thing ;) but for others, it can constitute 
what is essentially a total deal breaker.  The reason for that is that with a 
Cisco support contract, if (or perhaps /when/) you encounter a software bug 
that causes you some serious problem, you a direct channel to the vendor 
engineering team.  In the MikroTik world, you need to either use your own 
internal resources or hire a suitable consultant to run full packet level 
diagnostics, develop repeatability steps and then go through MikroTik level 1 
support channels to try to escalate it to their software engineering team.

Please don’t take this as encouragement to NOT deploy MikroTik! :-D  As the 
largest volume MikroTik distribution in our region, of course I think you 
*should* deploy MT, but only when you are aware of the full ‘TCO’ :-}

As the leading MikroTik vendor in Australia, we also offer engineering support 
in case your team does need some extra help when things go wrong, and we also 
have some inside contacts with MikroTik support team to get (sometimes 
slightly) faster escalation of unusual problems.

I’d be pleased to discuss further in more detail any time, if you’d like to! ;)

Cheers!  Mike Everest.

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 On Behalf Of Darren Moss
Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:58 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Mikrotik routers in HA environments

Hi All,

We are about to deploy a new location, which we normally do with our SOE around 
Cisco router kit (2 of them for redundancy).

I was talking with another DC customer and they swear by Mikrotik router gear 
over Cisco.

I’ve played with Mikrotik in a domestic/home fibre connection scenario, but not 
in a DC environment.

What’s the consensus from others?

Can a pair of Mikrotik routers be configured for a *reliable* HA scenario ?

Happy to chat offlist or share if this is of interest to others.

Cheers


Darren.

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