Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[Mike Everest]

Hwawei? Russians? ;)

> -Original Message-
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark
> Delany
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 2:20 PM
> To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)
> 
> > 26 exchanges, that's absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan!
> 
> The ABC article says 44 exchanges in the Sydney area!
> 
> That suggests something far more organized than a couple of vandals or
> opportunistic copper thieves. (Is copper theft even a thing in
> Australia?)
> 
> What a strange crime to commit considering the travel needed to get to so
> many exchanges. A vendetta?
> 
> 
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Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

[Roy Adams]

Paul, I would be most interested if you hear back from them.

I am curious if even BackBlaze have considered your idea in the past..
maybe a wake up for them and others

FYI, they produce these reports each quarter - worth calendaring to pick up.
I was stunned at the 14TB Toshiba reliability... interestingly, 2 weeks ago
that top line read 0 failures... today it says 1 - v.strange


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On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 11:22, Paul Wilkins  wrote:

> Roy,
> Those are the most comprehensive disk stats I've ever seen.
>
> So out of curiosity, I emailed Backblaze to ask if they'd noticed any
> latitudinal effect on disk wear. Not realistically expecting a response,
> but if they did notice a correlation, it may perhaps emerge by osmosis.
>
> Karl, I have to think turning a 15K RPM on it's head over a, admittedly
> long period, has to have an effect. Cumulatively you're going to get uneven
> wear on the bearings. Also the wear is going to be strongly non linear.
> Even if it's not a factor today due to current production tolerances and
> HVAC, it must become a factor eventually, though maybe not necessarily in
> our lifetime.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:59, Peter Betyounan <
> peter.betyou...@serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Easy solution , move to all flash, predicable failures and wear.
>>
>> Tue, 20 Aug at 4:07 pm,  wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever noticed a pattern of disks in equatorial latitudes
>> lasting significantly longer than say Sydney or Melbourne? I notice the
>> Foucault Period for Brisbane is 52hrs vs Melbourne's 39hrs and can't but
>> wonder if this doesn't mean Brisbane based DCs will have their disks last
>> 30% longer, or Darwin x3.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Paul Wilkins
>>
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Re: [AusNOG] Moving equipment from Singapore to Sydney

[Mark Anthony Delfin]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for replying back to me.  It is one of the reasons I was soliciting
some advice on this list.

I didn't have the experience of shipping that number of equipment overseas
back to Sydney. Previously for a single device, I just pack the device in a
box or a suitcase (if it fits) and travel as a piece of check-in baggage
when I am on a scheduled visit.  In some cases, I asked the Datacenter
overseas to unrack, pack and ship back to Sydney.

>How do you manage risk on such a move? vs someone internal with systems +
local knowledge?
All the devices will be wiped out of all the config/data before it will be
shutdown.

I got a some replies from the list as well.

Allied Pickford for courier service and TXO-systems for IT asset
de-installation and relocation (this might be expensive).

>Hard disks can travel as carry on.
This is a good option too.

Thanks.

Mark
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Re: [AusNOG] Moving equipment from Singapore to Sydney

[Paul Wilkins]

How do you manage risk on such a move? vs someone internal with systems +
local knowledge?

Hard disks can travel as carry on.

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 10:15, Mark Anthony Delfin  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have some newish gear(Total 16 RU, 11 - Server, 5 - network gear)  that
> we are exploring to move from Singapore (Equinix SG3) to Sydney.  Does
> anyone on the list have experience or know someone who provides service for
> this kind of move(removing from the rack, and ship it to Sydney)?
>
> Kindly reply off-list.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[John Edwards]

Think rows and rows of big copper earthing bars, like a jackpot for a thief
who's used to opportunistically targeting hot water systems.

How does everyone here monitor for a failed earth?

John


On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 13:50, Mark Delany  wrote:

> > 26 exchanges, that's absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan!
>
> The ABC article says 44 exchanges in the Sydney area!
>
> That suggests something far more organized than a couple of vandals or
> opportunistic copper thieves. (Is copper theft even a thing in
> Australia?)
>
> What a strange crime to commit considering the travel needed to get to
> so many exchanges. A vendetta?
>
>
> Mark.
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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[Matt Perkins]

I bet ASD are taking a long hard look into this.

Matt.



On 21/8/19 2:20 pm, Paul Wilkins wrote:
Yet more concerning is the vulnerability of exchanges to unauthorised 
entry, and where there's been no damage, no one's made aware of the 
security breach...


On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 14:09, Nathan Brookfield 
> wrote:


26 exchanges, that’s absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan!

*From:* AusNOG mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> *On Behalf Of *Evan Dent
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>>
mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>>
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

I'd seen a few news articles about it .


https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-calls-in-police-after-26-exchanges-broken-into-528846

On Wed, 21 Aug. 2019, 1:34 pm Nathan Brookfield,
mailto:nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au>> wrote:

Has anyone else seen the notice from Telstra about exchange
access? Apparently they’ve had a spate of Break and Enters to
exchange facilities and they’ve suffered “significant damage
to critical electrical equipment”.

I just happened to stumble across this Incident Notice but
first I’m hearing of it….

Seems very random and suspicious!

Kindest Regards,

Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)

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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[Bevan Slattery]

On 21/8/19, 2:20 pm, "AusNOG on behalf of Mark Delany" 
 wrote:

> 26 exchanges, that's absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan!

The ABC article says 44 exchanges in the Sydney area!

That is scary beyond words


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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[Paul Wilkins]

Yet more concerning is the vulnerability of exchanges to unauthorised
entry, and where there's been no damage, no one's made aware of the
security breach...

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 14:09, Nathan Brookfield <
nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au> wrote:

> 26 exchanges, that’s absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan!
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG  *On Behalf Of *Evan Dent
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2019 2:07 PM
> *To:*  
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)
>
>
>
> I'd seen a few news articles about it .
>
>
>
>
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-calls-in-police-after-26-exchanges-broken-into-528846
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Aug. 2019, 1:34 pm Nathan Brookfield, <
> nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else seen the notice from Telstra about exchange access?
> Apparently they’ve had a spate of Break and Enters to exchange facilities
> and they’ve suffered “significant damage to critical electrical equipment”.
>
>
>
> I just happened to stumble across this Incident Notice but first I’m
> hearing of it….
>
>
>
> Seems very random and suspicious!
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
>
>
>
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Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[Mark Delany]

> 26 exchanges, that's absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan!

The ABC article says 44 exchanges in the Sydney area!

That suggests something far more organized than a couple of vandals or
opportunistic copper thieves. (Is copper theft even a thing in
Australia?)

What a strange crime to commit considering the travel needed to get to
so many exchanges. A vendetta?


Mark.
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[AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

[Nathan Brookfield]

Has anyone else seen the notice from Telstra about exchange access? Apparently 
they've had a spate of Break and Enters to exchange facilities and they've 
suffered "significant damage to critical electrical equipment".

I just happened to stumble across this Incident Notice but first I'm hearing of 
it

Seems very random and suspicious!

Kindest Regards,
Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)

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Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

[Paul Wilkins]

Roy,
Those are the most comprehensive disk stats I've ever seen.

So out of curiosity, I emailed Backblaze to ask if they'd noticed any
latitudinal effect on disk wear. Not realistically expecting a response,
but if they did notice a correlation, it may perhaps emerge by osmosis.

Karl, I have to think turning a 15K RPM on it's head over a, admittedly
long period, has to have an effect. Cumulatively you're going to get uneven
wear on the bearings. Also the wear is going to be strongly non linear.
Even if it's not a factor today due to current production tolerances and
HVAC, it must become a factor eventually, though maybe not necessarily in
our lifetime.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:59, Peter Betyounan <
peter.betyou...@serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> Easy solution , move to all flash, predicable failures and wear.
>
> Tue, 20 Aug at 4:07 pm,  wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever noticed a pattern of disks in equatorial latitudes lasting
> significantly longer than say Sydney or Melbourne? I notice the Foucault
> Period for Brisbane is 52hrs vs Melbourne's 39hrs and can't but wonder if
> this doesn't mean Brisbane based DCs will have their disks last 30% longer,
> or Darwin x3.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
>
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[AusNOG] Fixed wireless kit at 7 Prospect Terrace, Kelvin Grove QLD

[Mark Tees]

Hi there,

Trying to track down who has fixed wireless kit on a building at 7
Prospect Terrace, Kelvin Grove QLD.

If that's you or you know who please unicast me.

It's in regards to a potential site service that has LOS to that site.

Cheers,

Mark
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[AusNOG] Moving equipment from Singapore to Sydney

[Mark Anthony Delfin]

Hi All,

We have some newish gear(Total 16 RU, 11 - Server, 5 - network gear)  that
we are exploring to move from Singapore (Equinix SG3) to Sydney.  Does
anyone on the list have experience or know someone who provides service for
this kind of move(removing from the rack, and ship it to Sydney)?

Kindly reply off-list.

Thank you.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

[Karl Auer]

On Tue, 2019-08-20 at 16:06 +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote:
> Has anyone ever noticed a pattern of disks in equatorial latitudes
> lasting significantly longer than say Sydney or Melbourne?

I doubt it has anything to do with the Foucault Period, but it could
have a lot to do with the fact that folk in northern climes take
airconditioning much more seriously :-)

Regards, K.


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Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

[Roy Adams]

Interesting observation,

Makes me wonder where BackBlaze DC(s) are
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2019/


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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 16:07, Paul Wilkins  wrote:

> Has anyone ever noticed a pattern of disks in equatorial latitudes lasting
> significantly longer than say Sydney or Melbourne? I notice the Foucault
> Period for Brisbane is 52hrs vs Melbourne's 39hrs and can't but wonder if
> this doesn't mean Brisbane based DCs will have their disks last 30% longer,
> or Darwin x3.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
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[AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

[Paul Wilkins]

Has anyone ever noticed a pattern of disks in equatorial latitudes lasting
significantly longer than say Sydney or Melbourne? I notice the Foucault
Period for Brisbane is 52hrs vs Melbourne's 39hrs and can't but wonder if
this doesn't mean Brisbane based DCs will have their disks last 30% longer,
or Darwin x3.


Kind regards

Paul Wilkins
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