Re: [AusNOG] Netcomm wireless enters vol administration
https://www.smartcompany.com.au/finance/mergers-and-acquisitions/netcomm-wireless-acquisition-dzs-voluntary-administration/ _"A Texan broadband access company has rescued Australian telco equipment provider NetComm Wireless from administration, pledging US$7 million (AU$10.6 million) to obtain the 40-year-old venture."_ On 20/03/2024 21:18, Noel Butler wrote: https://www.smartcompany.com.au/exclusive/netcomm-wireless-voluntary-administration/ Telecom equipment supplier NetComm Wireless has entered voluntary administration after operating for over 40 years. Documents listed by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) on March 13 show Kate Conneely and Rahul Goyal from Cor Cordis have been appointed administrators of the company story continues in link -- Regards, Noel Butler ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
[AusNOG] Netcomm wireless enters vol administration
https://www.smartcompany.com.au/exclusive/netcomm-wireless-voluntary-administration/ Telecom equipment supplier NetComm Wireless has entered voluntary administration after operating for over 40 years. Documents listed by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) on March 13 show Kate Conneely and Rahul Goyal from Cor Cordis have been appointed administrators of the company story continues in link -- Regards, Noel Butler___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Outage?
Voice and data fine in northern Brisbane On 19/03/2024 12:48, Chris Brown wrote: I don't have any insight but downdetector is going crazy so something must be happening. https://downdetector.com.au/status/telstra/ On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 10:35, Nathan Brookfield wrote: Seems like it might have been CGNAT issues so impacting data only and only when behind the NAT's in NSW. -- Regards, Noel Butler___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Superloop NBN Outage
Your post comes as an end user, very simple. On 17/01/2022 23:02, Christopher Hawker wrote: I don't think you understood the context of the post Noel. Definitely not looking for Whingepool. You're right, these groups have gone to shit due to people replying with useless garbage that has no relevance to the question being asked (refer to your last e-mail). when your OT expect to be called out For the record, I do operate a network. Whether you own the infrastructure the network operates over, the type of network, the end user, all of that is irrelevant. I operate networks on behalf of my clients. As you may or may not know, AusNOG is here for network operators to assist one another, not strictly "I am sending routes to Peer B however they are not sending back" type questions which may be news to you. Actually sonny, yes, as I've been on this list since day dot, having, like a few long time regulars here, come over from the 'ol aussie list run by Andy at the time, and that's exactly what it is supposed to be and I don't recall the board ever changing that, of course if they did and I missed it, no doubt Dave will let me know One final question - if the group has gone to shit, why are you still here? I have asked myself that question a few times when I read whingepool like posts CH. PS: Thanks for the laugh, I needed it 😄 - the problem is you posted this to a network operators list, however that seems to have gone to shit in recent years, I think the list you're looking for is u...@whingepool.dev.null -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Superloop NBN Outage
the problem is you posted this to a network operators list, however that seems to have gone to shit in recent years, I think the list you're looking for is u...@whingepool.dev.null On 16/01/2022 12:47, Christopher Hawker wrote: Mark, Already did that, that's the first thing I did. Received the usual "unplanned outage, no information available, no ETA available" spiel. The NBNco website was able to give me more information (albeit very basic information) than the Superloop operator was. Given the outage has been going on for almost 6 hours someone would know something. Hence my call for help here. If anyone knows or has any more detail it'd be a big help as I'm managing a few services that are offline. I also know that this list goes to 1000's of people so unless you possess any relevant information to the question at hand, then please reply off-list. I do have a chuckle at some of the trivial replies. CH Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jan 2022, at 1:35 pm, Mark Smith wrote: Contact their customer support. On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, 12:41 Christopher Hawker, wrote: Hello all, There's an apparent outage affecting Superloop customers connecting to the 2NEW POI. Their client portal lists the severity as low (not sure how that determination is made) and the notification provides absolutely no information regarding what caused it or an ETA. The disruption ID is 991D0. Would anyone please be able to shed some light on this? Thanks, CH ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Telstra ATM/Frame/BDSL decommissioning
On 21/10/2021 14:47, Matt Perkins wrote: Dont worry. NBN Enterprise Ethernet will be soo much more reliable. hahahaha Matt Oi. you still got a couple hours to go before we start Friday Funnies :) -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] [DKIM Failure] Re: Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list?
Ahhh, so it does indeed count through them all, that would explain the extra lookups, first time I've ever heard of someone being rejected because of it, but, until OP lets us know what the reject was for, we wont know. On 19/10/2021 12:23, Two Fat Monkeys - Dirk Bermingham wrote: Whilst we're living on the edge here To quote the RFC: "SPF implementations MUST limit the number of mechanisms and modifiers that do DNS lookups to at most 10 per SPF check, including any lookups caused by the use of the "include" mechanism or the "redirect" modifier. If this number is exceeded during a check, a PermError MUST be returned. The "include", "a", "mx", "ptr", and "exists" mechanisms as well as the "redirect" modifier do count against this limit. The "all", "ip4", and "ip6" mechanisms do not require DNS lookups and therefore do not count against this limit. The "exp" modifier does not count against this limit because the DNS lookup to fetch the explanation string occurs after the SPF record has been evaluated." Chris' SPF was even more borked earlier... Those includes need to be trimmed a bit further to comply... DB From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Noel Butler Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 1:11 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list? Andrew, This is likely off topic for this list, but anyway, since I live on the edge... By my count there is only 3 not 10 mechanism lookups (and show me an implementation that actually stops at 10), I'm not so sure they should be counting the includes includes/a/'s either, only the include itself, as includes are typically out of your control (it has been a very long time since I read that RFC so may be wrong) Anyway, if that was the issue, it would have surfaced long before now surely. If I was a betting man, I'd say DNS caching is the cause, if I was a betting man, I'd also be betting someone didnt drop a TTL when preparing for the change, so will have to wait till records refresh. Of course all this is assumption because OP never posted the actual error message. Cheers On 19/10/2021 09:07, Andrew Oakeley wrote: Hi, If I was you; I would start by fixing your SPF. This will show you the errors https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=spf%3aheartland.com.au&run=toolpage [1] Andrew From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Christopher Scholfield Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 7:04 AM To: 'AusNOG Mailing List' Subject: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list? Yesterday we changed mail filters, Mimecast is the only email provider that has been rejecting our emails due to SPF problems for the last 20 odd hours. Mimecast technical support has told me their customers who aren't getting our emails need to contact them so their tech support can explain how to bypass their mail filters for our mail server. I'd rather work with someone at Mimecast to resolve the cause of the problem. ophos.com._nspf.vali -- Regards, Noel Butlerimplimentation This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Links: -- [1] https://click.pstmrk.it/2s/mxtoolbox.com%2FSuperTool.aspx%3Faction%3Dspf%253aheartland.com.au%26run%3Dtoolpage/rIZ9BSYN/OHBV/CM9CEIXU4J___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list?
If that is a copy of what it actually was, yep, proper broken :) On 19/10/2021 12:14, Andrew Oakeley wrote: Hi, It was well more broken earlier, not just the lookup numbers. This was the earlier state. I was not nit picking. This was proper broken. v=spf1 _spf_useast2.prod.hydra.sophos.com ip4:124.158.19.168/29 ip4:124.158.19.128/29 include: carsales.com.au emailus.freshservice.com -all Andy -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list?
Andrew, This is likely off topic for this list, but anyway, since I live on the edge... By my count there is only 3 not 10 mechanism lookups (and show me an implementation that actually stops at 10), I'm not so sure they should be counting the includes includes/a/'s either, only the include itself, as includes are typically out of your control (it has been a very long time since I read that RFC so may be wrong) Anyway, if that was the issue, it would have surfaced long before now surely. If I was a betting man, I'd say DNS caching is the cause, if I was a betting man, I'd also be betting someone didnt drop a TTL when preparing for the change, so will have to wait till records refresh. Of course all this is assumption because OP never posted the actual error message. Cheers On 19/10/2021 09:07, Andrew Oakeley wrote: Hi, If I was you; I would start by fixing your SPF. This will show you the errors https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=spf%3aheartland.com.au&run=toolpage Andrew From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Christopher Scholfield Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 7:04 AM To: 'AusNOG Mailing List' Subject: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list? Yesterday we changed mail filters, Mimecast is the only email provider that has been rejecting our emails due to SPF problems for the last 20 odd hours. Mimecast technical support has told me their customers who aren't getting our emails need to contact them so their tech support can explain how to bypass their mail filters for our mail server. I'd rather work with someone at Mimecast to resolve the cause of the problem. -- Regards, Noel Butlerimplimentation This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers
On 19/02/2021 06:54, Mark Andrews wrote: Well at least with the NBN rollout basically done I haven't heard from "Nicole from NBN" saying my phone is going to be cut off if I don't do something in a while. Whats needed is a simple way to report "the last call to this line was a scam" so the calls can be traced back to their source along with a legislated requirement to follow the call trail back to its source. I get several calls like this a day from "Telstra NBN", "Mastercard Visa", "E-Bay and suspicious iPhone purchase", etc. It's so common that my wife looks at the caller-id and says "It's your girlfriend calling again" from the number of times Nichole called. Unfortunately I need to field calls from unknown numbers for new members for Scouts, etc. I set freepbx up on a pi for my parents, didn't take much creativeness to block them, they havent been bothered since, a quick look now in their CDR, seems to still block average 3 calls a weekday -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] dodo vocus never learn
The post was awareness that dodo/vocus are back to their old tricks, after a few ACMA smackdowns you'd think they have learned but nope. the only spam message to hit my inbox in over a year (pretty good considering this is my list address and not personal/business address, and one i only check occasionally using webmail so apologies if it takes days or weeks for my replies sometimes) comes from an Australian ISP who should know better than to spam. amazing if telstra did this you mob would be in outrage overtime, but vocus fanboys will always be fanboys. going by replies I've had, i am not the only one on this list to have got spammed from dodo/vocus either. guess they should prep their laywers for another round in the Federal Court. On 14/01/2021 12:02, Jim Woodward wrote: I think I can smell toast burning.. I'd love to have some context of the original post, Spam.. sure.. Tried to sell you faster internet? Ok.. Is there some information that would be helpful for the rest of us going forward? I am as confused as I am curious! Kind Regards, Jim. From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Joseph Goldman Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2021 12:36 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] dodo vocus never learn I know we had the motorbike G33K thread already pegged as early contender of pointless post of the year but I think this one is giving it a run for its money... I'm not entirely sure what we are supposed to be ingesting or discussing? On 14/1/21 12:13 pm, Noel Butler wrote: Lets just say that my internet is plenty fast enough and I dont need to become their customer to get faster *cough yeah right* internet On 14/01/2021 11:06, Christopher Hawker wrote: Care to explain the story behind this? -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] dodo vocus never learn
work for vocus now joe? On 14/01/2021 11:36, Joseph Goldman wrote: I know we had the motorbike G33K thread already pegged as early contender of pointless post of the year but I think this one is giving it a run for its money... I'm not entirely sure what we are supposed to be ingesting or discussing? On 14/1/21 12:13 pm, Noel Butler wrote: Lets just say that my internet is plenty fast enough and I dont need to become their customer to get faster *cough yeah right* internet On 14/01/2021 11:06, Christopher Hawker wrote: Care to explain the story behind this? -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] dodo vocus never learn
Lets just say that my internet is plenty fast enough and I dont need to become their customer to get faster *cough yeah right* internet On 14/01/2021 11:06, Christopher Hawker wrote: Care to explain the story behind this? -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
[AusNOG] dodo vocus never learn
you spammed the wrong person m'f...kers -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Tax Office investigation call scams from 0413 204 336
Yep, they been doing this for ages on fixed line, which was great for a while, they started using a prefix thats not in use by the ACMA dial plan reqs, created a rule and sent them all to 07 3073 1614, our mate Lenny entertained them for a bit :) On 13/01/2021 10:06, Matthew Matters wrote: Have you tried to call the numbers back? The latest bright idea is spoofing numbers thst see not real numbers, when you try and call it tells you the number is disconnected etc Get Outlook for iOS [1] - From: AusNOG on behalf of Noel Butler Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 11:05:17 AM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Tax Office investigation call scams from 0413 204 336 On 13/01/2021 09:30, Darren Moss wrote: Morning, We're seeing multiple calls to clients and one to our office this morning claiming to be the Tax Office investigating suspended tax file numbers with federal court action pending. The numbers are: 0413 204 336 0410 244 473 0488 717 619 If any providers here own these, please terminate the services. They will be spoofed numbers coming in via some SIP service that allows CLI overstamping, if they are active at all, the unsuspecting holders will have no idea until they get lots of abuse return calls. -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Links: -- [1] https://aka.ms/o0ukef___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Tax Office investigation call scams from 0413 204 336
On 13/01/2021 09:30, Darren Moss wrote: Morning, We're seeing multiple calls to clients and one to our office this morning claiming to be the Tax Office investigating suspended tax file numbers with federal court action pending. The numbers are: 0413 204 336 0410 244 473 0488 717 619 If any providers here own these, please terminate the services. They will be spoofed numbers coming in via some SIP service that allows CLI overstamping, if they are active at all, the unsuspecting holders will have no idea until they get lots of abuse return calls. -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] iiNet / WestNet mail - TLS support
Nothing to look into, they know those servers don't use it your cryptic post actually says you want someone to contact you offlist and explain why... yeah... good luck with that. On 06/10/2020 12:31, Mark Stewart wrote: > Good morning! > > Any iiNet / WestNet NOC available to contact me offlist to look into why > iiNet / WestNet mail servers don't offer TLS encryption for when clients send > mail to any iiNet / WestNet e-mail address? > > Regards, > > Mark Stewart > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Urgent: Telstra NOC
Story on Itnews this morning, its seem the problem was far bigger than just a few ip ranges :) https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-routing-flub-affects-hundreds-of-networks-worldwide-554097 On 30/09/2020 09:42, Mark Andrews wrote: > That however does mean that Telstra's formal channels aren't working > properly. If you can't reach the NOC via formal channels then there > is a problem. No one should have to come here and ask for bad > announcements to be withdrawn. Russell shouldn't have to do anything > but enjoy his time off when on leave. While we are thankful he did > react we all need time off for our mental health. > > Mark > >> On 30 Sep 2020, at 08:59, David Hughes wrote: >> >> I'll second this. Having Russell and is peers on the list and in a position >> to help resolve problems in a timely manner is fantastic for our industry >> and our clients. Telstra is a big beast with lots of moving parts, yet I've >> lost count of the number of times issues have been addressed through this >> informal channel. Nice one guys. >> >> Thanks >> >> David >> ... >> >> On 30/9/20, 8:17 am, "AusNOG on behalf of Joseph Goldman" >> wrote: >> >> It is amazing that it got fixed this way at all. Even just a few years >> ago I wouldn't imagine someone with such reach into Telstra NOC being so >> accessible for truly complex issues - you'd spend half a week trying to >> get through their phone system to someone or email the 'noc@' or >> something and hope to get a reply in a few days. >> >> ___ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Basic question about fibre visual fault locators
learn to read what people say, or are you just trolling, again as usual. ps again, its not a license, there is no such thing, but you'll understand that when you learn to read On 26/09/2020 19:57, Mark Smith wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 14:48, Mark Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020, 14:44 Nathan Brookfield, > wrote: > See you in the big house! > > I've also committed the crime of forgetting it was an ST connector. $610 > patch lead today! > > Hopefully the judge will reduce my sentence since I haven't seen one of those > for at least 20 years. For those who might be wondering, it is perfectly legal to do fibre patching, and use any tools that would help diagnose fibre issues, including a VFL. You only get in trouble if you don't have a licence and try to fixed cabling work. Cabling Provider Rules https://www.acma.gov.au/cabling-provider-rules "Work must comply with the Wiring Rules - industry standard AS/CA S009:2013 Installation requirements for customer cabling.": AS/CA S009:2020 INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS FOR CUSTOMER CABLING (WIRING RULES) https://www.commsalliance.com.au/Documents/all/Standards/s009 "This Standard applies to the installation and maintenance of fixed or concealed cabling or equipment that is connected, or is intended to be connected, to a telecommunications network, including any cord or cordage, or that part of any cord or cordage, that is connected as fixed or concealed cabling." > On 26 Sep 2020, at 11:49, Mark Smith wrote: > > Damn. Does that mean I'm not allowed to touch fibre patch leads anymore, and > have been a criminal since 1990? I knew it felt wrong to be pushing hard on a > $300 MM fibre patch lead to get it to engage on the SC connector, now I know > why. > > Nathan Brookfield > Secretary > > Internet Association of Australia Inc > http://www.internet.asn.au > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 09:57, Noel Butler wrote: > > If you (or the staff member performing this) were ACMA registered cabler and > accredited for fibre, as required by law to touch any of this stuff, you > wouldnt be asking this question. > > On 25/09/2020 18:26, Rhys Hanrahan wrote: > > Hi Everyone! > > I have a pretty basic question about VFLs. I haven't used one before but we > need to trace some existing old MMF at a site and am about to buy a cheap VFL > that has a universal connector for SC, ST, FC. We need LC as all the patch > leads convert to this. But all the LC female to SC male connectors I can see > around are either SMF, significantly more expensive or internationally > shipped. Need to get my hands on this for next week. > > I understand that in normal circumstances that mixing MMF and SMF spec > equipment would be a no go, BUT WOULD IT BE SUFFICIENT TO USE A SMF ADAPTOR > JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF FAULT-FINDING/TRACING IN THIS CASE? > > I was looking at an adaptor like this one, coupled with a separate cheap VFL: > https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SC-Male-to-LC-Female-Single-Mode-Fiber-Optic-Hybrid-Optical-Adaptor-Converter/353200623750 > [1] > > This "looks" like it is the same adaptor all the VFLs are bundling in with > the tool anyway (but they are all being shipped internationally). Is there > any reason not to settle for this? Thanks! > > Rhys Hanrahan > Chief Information Officer > Nexus One Pty Ltd > > E: supp...@nexusone.com.au > P: +61 2 9191 0606 > W: http://www.nexusone.com.au/ > M: PO Box A356 Sydney South, NSW 1235 > A: Level 12 227 Elizabeth St, Sydney NSW 2000 > > > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > -- > Regards, > Noel Butler > > This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to > copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this > message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are > not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies > of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, > copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the > mistaken delivery of this message. > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, the
Re: [AusNOG] Basic question about fibre visual fault locators
License? there is no such thing. my entire point was if he/his_staff hold FO rating, and since he is on a network operators list one assume he runs a network, he wouldnt be here asking how to use a VFL, and I'm actually surprised by the names of some who replied privately who work in NOC's that admit to their and their colleagues crimes :) perhaps this explains why half their networks are often borked :) On 26/09/2020 11:20, Jonathan Brewer wrote: Do you honestly think you need a license to trace an in-place cable that hasn't been properly labelled? -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Basic question about fibre visual fault locators
If you (or the staff member performing this) were ACMA registered cabler and accredited for fibre, as required by law to touch any of this stuff, you wouldnt be asking this question. On 25/09/2020 18:26, Rhys Hanrahan wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I have a pretty basic question about VFLs. I haven't used one before but we > need to trace some existing old MMF at a site and am about to buy a cheap VFL > that has a universal connector for SC, ST, FC. We need LC as all the patch > leads convert to this. But all the LC female to SC male connectors I can see > around are either SMF, significantly more expensive or internationally > shipped. Need to get my hands on this for next week. > > I understand that in normal circumstances that mixing MMF and SMF spec > equipment would be a no go, BUT WOULD IT BE SUFFICIENT TO USE A SMF ADAPTOR > JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF FAULT-FINDING/TRACING IN THIS CASE? > > I was looking at an adaptor like this one, coupled with a separate cheap VFL: > https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SC-Male-to-LC-Female-Single-Mode-Fiber-Optic-Hybrid-Optical-Adaptor-Converter/353200623750 > [1] > > This "looks" like it is the same adaptor all the VFLs are bundling in with > the tool anyway (but they are all being shipped internationally). Is there > any reason not to settle for this? Thanks! > > Rhys Hanrahan > Chief Information Officer > Nexus One Pty Ltd > > E: supp...@nexusone.com.au > P: +61 2 9191 0606 > W: http://www.nexusone.com.au/ > M: PO Box A356 Sydney South, NSW 1235 > A: Level 12 227 Elizabeth St, Sydney NSW 2000 > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Links: -- [1] https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SC-Male-to-LC-Female-Single-Mode-Fiber-Optic-Hybrid-Optical-Adaptor-Converter/353200623750___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
[AusNOG] Sunshine Coast cable landing station
Sorry to upset teh list by dragging it to a back on topic, topic :) copied from website: MEDIA RELEASE Maroochydore, Wednesday 22 July 2020: A better connected South-East Queensland (SEQ) has arrived. OneQode, Australia's first carrier to deploy equipment and commence operations out of the Sunshine Coast Cable Landing Station (CLS), is now ready to launch its digital services from the Sunshine Coast direct to its Brisbane CBD Points of Presence (Equinix BR1 & NextDC B2). With the lowest latency path to East Asia from Brisbane, this network is set to provide unparalleled speed to all Queenslanders - ushering in a new era of internet connectivity. Better connectivity for Queensland Until now, all Queensland traffic has been required to route through Sydney data centres before leaving Australian shores - meaning high latency and infrastructure expense. By putting down roots at the new CLS, OneQode is severing the Sydney dependence and ensuring that Queensland has dedicated international routes. . read on at https://oneqode.com.au/2020/07/21/oneqode-deploys-in-sunshine-coast-landing-station/ -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] EFPOST terminals down
hacker? nah... Might be a minor hissy somewhere with someones network, I've used my card at multiple places yesterday and this morning - all tap 'n go, the only hiccup I had was at a supermarket yesterday, it returned declined, I tapped immediately same card again and it approved On 22/06/2020 01:29, Chris Hurley wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone else noticed experience a large increase in EFPOST terminals being > down? With CoVid a lot of end users have switched to EFPOST only > transactions but in the last 72 hrs we have noticed end users complaining and > a number of sites now only accepting cash eg local council tips - Why a > hacker would target a tip go figure. > > Regards, > > Chris Hurley BE (Elec) > Signal Manager -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate any part of this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
[AusNOG] its 2020 youd think NBN would prevent this
https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/someone-else-is-disconnecting-my-service.1281331/ "Someone else is signing up to optus with our address which is disconnecting our service." -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate any part of this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Swap Beer for Doubling/Tripling Included CVC
On 17/03/2020 09:54, Nick Stallman wrote: > I'd actually be curious to see how much Netflix will surge during the day. > > An awful lot of people don't actually work efficiently from home, especially > if they've never done it before. > How many people will be on the couch with the laptop and the TV on? :) > That could skew the bandwidth numbers by quite a lot. Exactly... those of us conditioned have set the ground rules to family - no interruptions unless dire emergency, we dont stroll into the lounge (or study) and fire up a PC at 9-ish whilst still unshaven, messy haired and in PJ's with Sunrise or whatever comes after it blaring on the TV or watching netflix. Those unconditioned are in for a shock, not a holiday. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate any part of this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Telstra IPv6 Wireless Enablement - IPv6 Single Stack
I hope you have a lot of peering points in USA, with Cogent's long time refusal to peer with HE causing a lot of dead-end paths :) and that 2002::/16 is blocked by a lot of networks for wyyy too much abuse in the past. Has it been cleaned up? On 06/02/2020 14:27, Russell Langton wrote: > * > - If your website/content/other is advertising a Ipv6 DNS record, > > => This may cause problems if your website is not 100% Ipv6 -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate any part of this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Anyone experiencing web browsing issues on TPG/AAPT?
On 18/12/2019 13:53, Clayton Gee wrote: > Finding browser timeouts and application failures. > > Thanks > > Clayton > > Sent from my iPhone this is not whingepool, its a list for network operators, not end user questions -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate any part of this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.
Interesting, my take on how wifi calling works is like most things RF, strongest signal wins, certainly not a last resort, but, thats just my understanding of it On 16/10/2019 12:12, Paul Wilkins wrote: > So I checked the Telstra terms, which states that Wi-Fi Calling USES WIFI AS > A NETWORK OF LAST RESORT: > > https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/mobiles-tablets/telstra-wi-fi-calling/what-is-telstra-wi-fi-calling > > Wi-Fi Calling enables you to make voice calls using a Fixed Broadband Wi-Fi > connection from your compatible Telstra mobile WHEN YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE > MOBILE NETWORK. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers
if performance matters (and it does very much so), why would you be using _ANYTHING_ virtualised at all... On 03/10/2019 23:19, Guy Ellis wrote: > Has anyone bothered to evaluate TNSR which I will think replace pfsense where > performance really matters? -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] ?==?utf-8?q? Adam Internet SMTP Woes
It's a historical entry, the address range you're in, both the /24 and wider /16, was used for spamming back in march 2018 that I can see, perhaps there is stale local entry somewhere or an ironport thats ij need of kicking (if iinet still use them) On 18/09/2019 15:26, Stephen Argent wrote: > Thanks Jennifer - I did check through some blacklists and found nothing on > that address (or on the domain in question). However, there is a technical > specialist from TPG Group having a look at this for me now; hopefully that > will shed some light :) > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 14:52 ACST, Jennifer Sims > wrote: > > asav.adam is run by iiNet (it's A record points to asav.iinet.net.au [1]) > > I wonder if your IP is on a DNSBL or something similar? > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:23 PM Stephen Argent wrote: > Hi all, > > Long story short, I've been trying to fight with firstline support just to > get in contact with someone responsible for asav.adam.com.au [2]. > Unfortunately I couldn't get firstline to understand the issue - they just > kept claiming that they're not hosting our domain. Didn't understand that > inbound emails can be blocked (claiming it can only happen on outbound) and > so forth. > > Long story short, need to speak with someone from Adam about getting our mail > server's IP unblocked (it's being blocked at asav.adam.com.au [2]). We DKIM > sign all emails for all outbound etc - just need to find out what the process > is for getting those allowed as our customers cannot email Adam customers. > Off-list contact please. ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [3] and ODF [4] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://asav.iinet.net.au [2] http://asav.adam.com.au [3] http://www.adobe.com/ [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Adam Internet SMTP Woes
I assume its the mail server you used to send this post? If so, how long have you been allocated that IP? On 18/09/2019 12:22, Stephen Argent wrote: > Hi all, > > Long story short, I've been trying to fight with firstline support just to > get in contact with someone responsible for asav.adam.com.au. Unfortunately I > couldn't get firstline to understand the issue - they just kept claiming that > they're not hosting our domain. Didn't understand that inbound emails can be > blocked (claiming it can only happen on outbound) and so forth. > > Long story short, need to speak with someone from Adam about getting our mail > server's IP unblocked (it's being blocked at asav.adam.com.au). We DKIM sign > all emails for all outbound etc - just need to find out what the process is > for getting those allowed as our customers cannot email Adam customers. > Off-list contact please. > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] 3/4G modem sms
wait i'm tired, I think you're probaby right. I should get off email and get some sleep been up since 3am :O On 15/05/2019 21:58, Noel Butler wrote: > Scott, > > Telstra were 900/2100 Mhz, now only 900 Mhz for 3G, optus is the 850 Mhz. > > Telstra 2100 Mhz started being turned of on 29th March, the process was going > to take a month to complete so its likely the OPs tower went off only > recently > > On 15/05/2019 21:47, Scott Wilson wrote: > Ah, AFAIK, Telstra have never offered a 3G 900mhz product, only 850("Next G") > and 2100 (3G).Likewise, AFAIK Optus have never offered a 850/2100 - only > 900/2100. Telstra 2100mhz is EOL from what I understand. > > @Nick Edwards - when you say alert SMS's, what do you mean? If this is for > alert SMS to NOC/support staff when it all hits the fan, have you considered > something like site24x7? > > On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 21:37, Noel Butler wrote: > > hit enter too soon, dont ya just hate that :) > > Optus are still using 850 Mhz 3G, so maybe get a cheap sim from one of their > MVNO's > > On 15/05/2019 21:34, Noel Butler wrote: > > Maybe ask Huawei for some comparable models then ebay for one > > On 15/05/2019 17:01, Nick Edwards wrote: > > Howdy, > > We've been using a huawei e160 in a pc for sending alerts sms's, now we need > to replace it since telstra are no longer giving us 3G on 2100, only 900, > this stick is "e" version, so only 850, no good to us. > > Everything around at present seems to be the new all in one wifi 4G wonders > that work as ethernet, which it is what we dont want since it cant be used > for our purposes, or certainly not easily, has anyone got any suggestions on > the true modem type 4G sticks, or even cheap 3G that works on 900 if its 20 > bucks dirt cheap since I'm told telstra will likely in 2020 be shutting down > its 3G network completely. > > ciao -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] 3/4G modem sms
Scott, Telstra were 900/2100 Mhz, now only 900 Mhz for 3G, optus is the 850 Mhz. Telstra 2100 Mhz started being turned of on 29th March, the process was going to take a month to complete so its likely the OPs tower went off only recently On 15/05/2019 21:47, Scott Wilson wrote: > Ah, AFAIK, Telstra have never offered a 3G 900mhz product, only 850("Next G") > and 2100 (3G).Likewise, AFAIK Optus have never offered a 850/2100 - only > 900/2100. Telstra 2100mhz is EOL from what I understand. > > @Nick Edwards - when you say alert SMS's, what do you mean? If this is for > alert SMS to NOC/support staff when it all hits the fan, have you considered > something like site24x7? > > On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 21:37, Noel Butler wrote: > > hit enter too soon, dont ya just hate that :) > > Optus are still using 850 Mhz 3G, so maybe get a cheap sim from one of their > MVNO's > > On 15/05/2019 21:34, Noel Butler wrote: > > Maybe ask Huawei for some comparable models then ebay for one > > On 15/05/2019 17:01, Nick Edwards wrote: > > Howdy, > > We've been using a huawei e160 in a pc for sending alerts sms's, now we need > to replace it since telstra are no longer giving us 3G on 2100, only 900, > this stick is "e" version, so only 850, no good to us. > > Everything around at present seems to be the new all in one wifi 4G wonders > that work as ethernet, which it is what we dont want since it cant be used > for our purposes, or certainly not easily, has anyone got any suggestions on > the true modem type 4G sticks, or even cheap 3G that works on 900 if its 20 > bucks dirt cheap since I'm told telstra will likely in 2020 be shutting down > its 3G network completely. > > ciao > > _______ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > -- > Kind Regards, > > Noel Butler > > This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright > protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or > reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to > do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then > delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. > Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] > documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Building manager refuses entry to MDF
That document, apart from being dated, is for carriers and building owners, in the OP case the carrier has gained access, its the "customer cabling' side of things seems to be where the issue is On 15/05/2019 19:06, Glen Turner wrote: > There's already a industry code on this topic: > > ACIF code G571:2002 "Building access operations and installation" > https://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/2328/G571_2002.pdf > >> I believe I should be able to invoice the body corp > > Ask your lawyer to explain "offer to treat". I believe you lack this > from the building manager, but I am not going to offer legal advice. > > -glen > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] 3/4G modem sms
hit enter too soon, dont ya just hate that :) Optus are still using 850 Mhz 3G, so maybe get a cheap sim from one of their MVNO's On 15/05/2019 21:34, Noel Butler wrote: > Maybe ask Huawei for some comparable models then ebay for one > > On 15/05/2019 17:01, Nick Edwards wrote: > >> Howdy, >> >> We've been using a huawei e160 in a pc for sending alerts sms's, now we need >> to replace it since telstra are no longer giving us 3G on 2100, only 900, >> this stick is "e" version, so only 850, no good to us. >> >> Everything around at present seems to be the new all in one wifi 4G wonders >> that work as ethernet, which it is what we dont want since it cant be used >> for our purposes, or certainly not easily, has anyone got any suggestions on >> the true modem type 4G sticks, or even cheap 3G that works on 900 if its 20 >> bucks dirt cheap since I'm told telstra will likely in 2020 be shutting down >> its 3G network completely. >> >> ciao >> >> ___ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > -- > Kind Regards, > > Noel Butler > > This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright > protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or > reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to > do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then > delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. > Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] > documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] 3/4G modem sms
Maybe ask Huawei for some comparable models then ebay for one On 15/05/2019 17:01, Nick Edwards wrote: > Howdy, > > We've been using a huawei e160 in a pc for sending alerts sms's, now we need > to replace it since telstra are no longer giving us 3G on 2100, only 900, > this stick is "e" version, so only 850, no good to us. > > Everything around at present seems to be the new all in one wifi 4G wonders > that work as ethernet, which it is what we dont want since it cant be used > for our purposes, or certainly not easily, has anyone got any suggestions on > the true modem type 4G sticks, or even cheap 3G that works on 900 if its 20 > bucks dirt cheap since I'm told telstra will likely in 2020 be shutting down > its 3G network completely. > > ciao > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] ping melbit/netregistry
I see they are calling it 'cloud DNS' there you go.. more BS cloud hype marketing jargon for " we put everything on one SAN, yes, all your eggs truly are in one single basket" /me sigh On 09/05/2019 22:01, Joel Nath wrote: > Its been having issues since yesterday later afternoon > > Bunch of cowboys at Netregistry, 2nd major dns issue this year > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 May 2019, at 9:50 pm, Nathan Brookfield > wrote: > > 8.8.8.8 seems to be resolving things, cache times longer maybe but every > other resolver isn't from our testing…. > > Kindest Regards, > > Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB) > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > > The information contained in this email and any attached files is strictly > private and confidential. The intended recipient of this email may only use, > reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and > any attached files with Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd's permission. If you > are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, > reproducing, adapting, disclosing or distributing the information contained > in this email and any attached files or taking any action in reliance on it. > If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying > to this message, promptly delete and destroy any copies of this email and any > attachments. > > It is your responsibility to scan this communication and any files attached > for computer viruses and other defects and recommend that you subject these > to your virus checking procedures prior to use. Simtronic Technologies Pty > Ltd does NOT accept liability for any loss or damage (whether direct, > indirect, consequential, economic or other) however caused, whether by > negligence or otherwise, which may result directly or indirectly from this > communication or any files attached. > > FROM: AusNOG ON BEHALF OF Craig Askings > SENT: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:45 PM > TO: Ausnog > SUBJECT: Re: [AusNOG] ping melbit/netregistry > > Huh, I saw some weirdness before for a net registry hosted domain. I had > assumed it was my resolver, since it worked when I switched to 8.8.8.8. > > Perhaps the issue is unevenly distributed? > > On 9 May 2019, at 9:41 pm, Noel Butler wrote: > > your DNS servers having the night off? > > Kind Regards, > > Noel Butler > > This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright > protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or > reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to > do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then > delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. > Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] > documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] ping melbit/netregistry
Thanks Nathan, yeah 'uneeda' sees it as well, guess it was a lucky cache On 09/05/2019 21:47, Nathan Brookfield wrote: > Big outage started before 5pm, DNS been hit and miss since, they're posting > on Twitter with updates. People are blowing up, understandably! > > Kindest Regards, > > Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB) > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > > The information contained in this email and any attached files is strictly > private and confidential. The intended recipient of this email may only use, > reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and > any attached files with Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd's permission. If you > are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, > reproducing, adapting, disclosing or distributing the information contained > in this email and any attached files or taking any action in reliance on it. > If you have received this email in error, please email the sender by replying > to this message, promptly delete and destroy any copies of this email and any > attachments. > > It is your responsibility to scan this communication and any files attached > for computer viruses and other defects and recommend that you subject these > to your virus checking procedures prior to use. Simtronic Technologies Pty > Ltd does NOT accept liability for any loss or damage (whether direct, > indirect, consequential, economic or other) however caused, whether by > negligence or otherwise, which may result directly or indirectly from this > communication or any files attached. > > FROM: AusNOG ON BEHALF OF Noel Butler > SENT: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:42 PM > TO: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > SUBJECT: [AusNOG] ping melbit/netregistry > > your DNS servers having the night off? -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
[AusNOG] ping melbit/netregistry
your DNS servers having the night off? Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Youtuber - Cabler in Sydney - Worth it
On 29/04/2019 22:46, Skeeve Stevens wrote: > Hey all, > > Found this YouTube Channel of a Sydney based ACMA Licenced Cabler. > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdH7Llwd961xcsy0UVQA3Yg > > He seems to be a bit of a legend. He has done heaps of videos of MDF work, > NBN Lead-ins, NBN Installs (I think he does them for Optus), DSL Sync Issues, > NBN modem placement, Cut cables, Voltage issues, and heaps more. > > My only issue is that he does publish customers names, addresses, FNN's and > reference numbers, technician names (especially ones who screw up or do crap > work). and illegally accesses network assets - I question his "licence" because there is no such thing, its a registration, and a registered cabler knows this. that guy is an electrician, jesus, it was only recently he started using the LTS No2, and had no idea on how to use it, showing all these values, yet the earth wire from it was dangling plain as day in free air :) Any Reg Cabling Provider can document a fault as not in internal wiring and force the telco to actually send a tech out and fix it, and get your money back that you had to pay for the cabler. I wonder how the privacy commissioner would see his release of details as well. But I do note in his more recent vieos he's not giving out full addresses anymore so maybe he's been warned about that. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Optus Evolve DDOS Q
On 08/04/2019 21:16, Dino Sosic wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know if the DDOS protection on Optus Evolve internet can be set > per prefix or per circuit? We have a few links scattered across the country, > all under one account. Multiple /24 prefixes and different ASNs on different > circuits. Even though these are 500-1000mbps links, the DDOS thresholds are > set to 10 mbps, which is causing legit traffic being dropped. (especially > UDP) > > I want to change this per link/circuit or at least per prefix/ASN. > > Anyone knows, or is around from Optus that knows? I'd have thought your account manager would answer this for you -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Mikrotik IPv6 Vulnerability - Must Read if you have Public IPv6 Facing Mikrotik
On 29/03/2019 11:17, Mike Everest wrote: > On the point of "the fix is in v7" v7 has for a great many years, been code for "too hard basket" -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Rack space in NextDC S1/S2
On 19/03/2019 08:59, Kev Hoy wrote: > Dear All, > > Whilst I do enjoy a bit of banter, I personally do not find any allegations > without proof of said allegations warranted on this list. > > I'm sure I can speak for a fair few members on-list when I say that you need > to keep your thoughts to yourself and do not bring personal vendettas to said > list. Amen to that -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
[AusNOG] Fwd: PEAR PHP Compromised - Possible Backdoor Going Back 6 Months!
This did the rounds of twitter last night, but incase your heads been in the sand... Original Message If you use the popular PEAR PHP extension or have within the last 6 months, there is a possibility that a backdoor could have been introduced depending on how you installed the extension. "... this does *not* affect the PEAR installer package itself... it affects the go-pear.phar executable that you would use to initially install the PEAR installer. Using the `pear` command to install various PEAR package is *not* affected." There is still a lot of questions and PEAR PHP are in the process of investigating the full extent of what happened. Please check the references below for the latest updates. Reference(s): https://twitter.com/pear http://blog.pear.php.net/ -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?
On 24/01/2019 13:20, Jason Leschnik wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I considered posting it there but I decided to post to AusNOG instead as I > think WP is most of the time biased with Not to mention its run by paranoid power tripping fools who ban you just for kicks, but what do you expect when the reason that place exists was for whingers to sulk about Telstra, then Optus, then everybody else, I'm the first to say user garbage doesnt belong here, but I think this is different, might be borderline, butyeah... -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS
On 08/12/2018 09:00, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Australia's war on encryption: the sweeping new powers rushed into law - The > Guardian, Paul Karp [1] "Amendments also introduce a new range of safeguards [2] including the requirement that "technical capability notices" require the sign-off of both the attorney general and communications minister". roflmfao ... they call this a safe...guard. hahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [3] and ODF [4] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/dec/08/australias-war-on-encryption-the-sweeping-new-powers-rushed-into-law [2] https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/coalitions-deal-with-labor-on-cracking-encrypted-messages-what-it-means-for-you [3] http://www.adobe.com/ [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist
On 24/10/2018 10:22, Serge Burjak wrote: > Google hosts a couple million domains, large chunk of top 1000 companies > globally, a lot of them your suppliers in one form or another, I think it's > in everyones interests to keep commerce moving. > > It is also in everyones interests to identify and punish the ones that don't > play the game, but a broad brush approach is not going to do it. It is also in everyones interests to identify and punish the ones who spam, not those who block the spammers -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist
I have no problem, I loose no sleep over it, it's an extreme piss weak excuse thinking their too big to block, so in your eyes they can be a haven for spammers - which in past 2 months or so they have, and you think thats not their problem... people like you are part of the problem, not the solution. On 24/10/2018 08:42, Scott Wilson wrote: > Yep, like it or not, if you can't accept email from gmail/gsuite/google, you > have the problem - not them. > >> -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist
On 23/10/2018 15:42, Scott Wilson wrote: > So, I went to check the MX health of one of the domains I administer, as I'd > made some DMARC, DKIM, and SPF changes - we use gsuite btw: > > blacklist aspmx.l.google.com [1] Blacklisted by SORBS DUHL More Info > > With respect, SORBS, that's your problem, not anyone else's. > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog with the amount of shit I've seen out of google in recent weeks, I think its a justified listing. no one is too big to be shitlisted if they cant get their act together and stop their spamming lusers -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [2] and ODF [3] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://aspmx.l.google.com [2] http://www.adobe.com/ [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist
On 23/10/2018 15:47, Michael J. Carmody wrote: > Gmail may have a SPAM problem, but they are too much of our client traffic to > play this game. THERE ^^ lies the problem. with this attitude google et al have no incentive to get off their useless arses and fix the problem the more who continue to allow them to be blocked the more chance they will do something to rectify their problem -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Mobile network-provided time zone
This seems a question for whingepool (its got nothing to do with running IP networks) On 07/10/2018 06:36, Paul Gear wrote: > Hi all, > > In the past 10 or so years, I've used every major mobile carrier's > network, through both the carrier directly and often through various > resellers, and one thing remains consistent. Every year on this > weekend, when in Queensland, the network-provided time zone changes to > UTC +11 (Sydney/Melbourne). This is very handy when roaming overseas, > but not so handy when it changes your time zone when it shouldn't. > > What's causing this? I know it's not NTP on the handset - I know a > little about that, and it doesn't include time zone in packets, nor does > it care about time zone when it adjusts the kernel. I assumed that this > feature was implemented on the mobile network side, and the mobile base > station broadcasts its time zone along with the other information > handsets need to connect to it. But I don't know enough about the > technical side of that to be sure. > > The usual suggested remedy when I contact my carrier to complain that > they're sending my phone the wrong time zone is to ask for the handset > to rebooted. Sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn't. But why would > it make any difference? > > Can anyone shed any light on this? > > Thanks in advance, > Paul > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive
Hi, I've heard those denials too, but experience tells us there's no smoke without fire... not that I use supermicro anyway so my data only goers to NSA, not the MSS :) cheers On 05/10/2018 10:20, Florian Valette wrote: > HI, > > It seems to be a Fake News...? > > Supermicro refutes : > > https://www.supermicro.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2018/press181004_Bloomberg.cfm > [1] > > Apple denied too : > > _"Over the course of the past year, Bloomberg has contacted us multiple times > with claims, sometimes vague and sometimes elaborate, of an alleged security > incident at Apple. Each time, we have conducted rigorous internal > investigations based on their inquiries and each time we have found > absolutely no evidence to support any of them. We have repeatedly and > consistently offered factual responses, on the record, refuting virtually > every aspect of Bloomberg's story relating to Apple._ > > _On this we can be very clear: Apple has never found malicious chips, > "hardware manipulations" or vulnerabilities purposely planted in any server. > Apple never had any contact with the FBI or any other agency about such an > incident. We are not aware of any investigation by the FBI, nor are our > contacts in law enforcement._ > > _In response to Bloomberg's latest version of the narrative, we present the > following facts: Siri and Topsy never shared servers; Siri has never been > deployed on servers sold to us by Super Micro; and Topsy data was limited to > approximately 2,000 Super Micro servers, not 7,000. None of those servers has > ever been found to hold malicious chips._ > > _As a matter of practice, before servers are put into production at Apple > they are inspected for security vulnerabilities and we update all firmware > and software with the latest protections. We did not uncover any unusual > vulnerabilities in the servers we purchased from Super Micro when we updated > the firmware and software according to our standard procedures._ > > _We are deeply disappointed that in their dealings with us, Bloomberg's > reporters have not been open to the possibility that they or their sources > might be wrong or misinformed. Our best guess is that they are confusing > their story with a previously-reported 2016 incident in which we discovered > an infected driver on a single Super Micro server in one of our labs. That > one-time event was determined to be accidental and not a targeted attack > against Apple._ > > _While there has been no claim that customer data was involved, we take these > allegations seriously and we want users to know that we do everything > possible to safeguard the personal information they entrust to us. We also > want them to know that what Bloomberg is reporting about Apple is > inaccurate._ > > _Apple has always believed in being transparent about the ways we handle and > protect data. If there were ever such an event as Bloomberg News has claimed, > we would be forthcoming about it and we would work closely with law > enforcement. Apple engineers conduct regular and rigorous security screenings > to ensure that our systems are safe. We know that security is an endless race > and that's why we constantly fortify our systems against increasingly > sophisticated hackers and cybercriminals who want to steal our data. »_ > > AWS is saying this in untrue : > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aws.amazon.com_blogs_security_setting-2Dthe-2Drecord-2Dstraight-2Don-2Dbloomberg-2Dbusinessweeks-2Derroneous-2Darticle_&d=DwIFAg&c=4DxX-JX0i28X6V65hK0ftwVK1xnmwcYC0vo7GVya1JY&r=NGLqjlg8Gqjal0G8jzVjweKfIgMnEHJdMIgB0mMqqt8&m=4umDOyc_2f8DSiCtG_AvPlliL0yuDZKcJDPX23xkdcI&s=IVl33wh7j2kT9A8phJg8TmcO8aG-siRF8sV9TAnT4nk&e > [2] > > Regards, > > ------ > > Florian Valette > > _Innovation is freedom_ > > Email: florian.vale...@corp.ovh.com > > -- > > OVH Network "Chacha" Team > AS 16276 http://peering.ovh.net/ [3] > > FROM: AusNOG on behalf of Noel Butler > > DATE: Friday, 5 October 2018 at 10:00 am > TO: Ausnog > SUBJECT: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive > > given when this broke a couple days ago > > https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report > > > overnight nasdaq supermicro stocks down 41% > > seems cant trust much coming out of China these days. though, you cant trust > anything coming out of the USA either. > > -- > > Kind Regards, > > Noel Butler > > This Email, includin
[AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive
given when this broke a couple days ago https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report overnight nasdaq supermicro stocks down 41% seems cant trust much coming out of China these days. though, you cant trust anything coming out of the USA either. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.
On 03/10/2018 13:13, andrew khoo wrote: > can we all please fork these discussions into a separate thread or list? > > regardless of validity or virtue or other discussions, there ARE a few of us > folk that still want to use this list for operational purposes. +1 David, can you setup an ausnog.politcis ? so we can reset the mute level on this list so it is ACTUALLY used for its purpose. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events
On 02/10/2018 11:43, Robert Hudson wrote: > On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 22:36, Noel Butler wrote: > >> This is a network operators list for discussion of network operations, not >> HR related material. > > If you think that issues of sexual harassment and assault are purely HR > matters, you're part of the problem. I stopped reading here, such a childish statement as you know I said a lot more than that. and no, I am not going to entertain you by sitting here debating this topic, I've said all I'm going to say. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events
On 01/10/2018 13:26, Peter Tonoli wrote: > To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these issues in > future? > > Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites - they > appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of conduct, or > similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be implementing a Code > of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux Australia's, at > https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ . > > Cheers, > Peter. This is a network operators list for discussion of network operations, not HR related material. This entire thread is outside the charter, and to continue after being told to stop shows complete and utter lack of respect for David and the others who run ausnog, or are we all going to be selective about what parts of the charter we think should be enforced. I also think it was a fair call to STOP THREAD it, since serious criminal offence accusations have been made, and as ausnog have done in the past with posts that have legal potentials. There should have been only one report made, and that should have been to the police so the mongrels responsible have their day in court and suffer the consequences of their actions. This list is not that place. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Issues receiving from TPG Mail servers.
On 23/07/2018 15:40, Bradley Silverman wrote: > @Mark - These are shared hosting servers, think cPanel & Plesk. The one > server is both mail, and website. Which means that the server has websites > that accept credit card payments, and therefore is subject to PCI. Any system > that is on that server is required to comply with PCI. You are the one choosing to use cpanel/plesk, lazy webhost solutions that puts all your customers eggs in the one single basket (though I heard plesk may soon be changing that), sorry, but that is not TPG's fault your chosen hosting software lives in the 90s. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Telstra on the Sunshine Coast
On 21/05/2018 11:29, Ross Marston wrote: > Anyone aware of what's going on with telstra at the north end of the Sunshine > Coast, Qld? We have no mobile coverage or NBN on our Telstra services. > > Kind regards > Ross Marston > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog Really? we've just had nearly 30 posts in 2 hours about it :) -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again?
On 21/05/2018 10:37, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I'm seeing (mobile) services - voice and data - down or intermittent in > multiple areas for the last 40 minutes or so. > > Can't find anything mentioned about it - am I just lucky enough to have a > significant proportion of my telstra services go titsup all together, or is > there some wider issue? > > (None of my services with other carriers seem affected at this stage). > ___ Screwed, intermittently, on Sunshine Coast as well -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] (Abuse of) mandatory data retention information.
On 02/05/2018 14:30, Ross Wheeler wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2018, Noel Butler wrote: > >> This has been going on for decades, nothing to do with DR > > Yes and no. > Section 282 certificate was an instrument we were given that removed the risk > from us, because someone gave us that certificate which made giving up that > information unambiguously legal from our perspective. Also, prior to DR we > had basically no legal obligation to retain some (or any) data. > > After DR, two things have changed. > 1. We have a legal obligation to capture and securely retain a > whole pile of things. > 2. We are required to give extracts of that information > when requested, and but DO NOT REQUIRE A WARRANT. No, only number 1 is new, and as for ISP's (not telcos) Id hardly call radius and email logs a "whole pile of things", I'd also not call it that for those offering phone services either since clients like to lookup to see their recent history they would be keeping that for a while anyway, OK, so maybe now you gotta keep that for 2 years with no choice, rather than a year or just months, but its hardly earth shattering for typical ISPs. Actual real Telcos that provide cell towers and so on, also not much changes, certain telcos admitted they already keep the details for 7 bloody years, 5 years more than now minimally required to. And #2 has always been the case under s282, I recall doing them as far back as 2002 > Yes, yes, data INTERCEPTION is a different thing, and PRE-MANDATORY-DR > legislation, a warrant or similar instrument was required - BUT NOT NOW. huh? where do you get interception from or are you just moving the goal posts to suit your story, your OP never mentions a word of it, and nobody has unless I missed a post or three, is talking about interception, which does require a warrant, your post was a bout user joe blogs information which never has required it, DR or no DR. > I find it difficult to believe so many seem to be so badly mis-informed. Yes, indeed, there are a few mis-informed here. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] (Abuse of) mandatory data retention information.
On 01/05/2018 11:28, Ross Wheeler wrote: > > I was recently talking to a guy who had been talking to a guy who works for > an Australian ISP, and the comment was made that a police officer local to > the ISP had made a request for information relating to an individual > (background explained to me was it was during a messy divorce, and allegedly > by a person known to or related to the officer). > > The ISP was dubious about providing the information and contacted the AGs > department for guidance and was told (again, so I'm informed) that "Give it > to them, it will be picked up in the Audit process". > > Questions that immediately arise from that include: > * Wasn't there supposed to be a small number of individuals appointed > by the commmissioner of police who would be making these requests? > * I understood that individual officers would not ever be permitted > to make these requests anyway. > * Has anyone ever heard of any audit happening? > * If there hasn't been, why not? > * If the information as reported is in fact accurate in all material > regards, shouldn't "heads roll"? > * Where's the accountability, the checks-and-balances citizens were > all assured were included in this legislation? > > This apparently happened almost a year ago, so saying "Give them time, it'll > happen" seems unlikely now... > > (Who watches the watcher?) This has been going on for decades, nothing to do with DR, came down to my memories hazy but without looking it up IIRC s282 requests, the same requests ISP's have been getting long before DR was dreamt up, also IIRC it needs to be signed off on by a commissioned officer (which included snr Sgts in act Insp's capacity) So he's right, give it to them if it comes through formal channels, AFP, ATO, Qld/NSW/Vic police have formal request forms (cant recall ever processing requests from SA/WA/NT/Tas police) -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] 1.1.1.1 DNS resolvers
On 02/04/2018 10:12, Andrew Yager wrote: > Hi All, > In case you missed it, despite Easter and April Fools day, CloudFlare, in > conjunction APNIC have launched a new public DNS server at 1.1.1.1 and > 1.0.0.1 (IPv4) and 2606:4700:4700:: and 2606:4700:4007::1001 (IPv6). > > Quick tests have suggested it is quite fast compared with Google's resolvers > (seeing an average of 23ms on queries as opposed to an average of 700ms) and > sensible results on CDN queries. namedbench, running on firefox's history/bookmarks/etc (omitted local named cache resolver results from here at home since its obviously going to be <2 ms for cached responses and might skew results) -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] $300 NBN Connection Fee for FTTP?
On 21/03/2018 16:13, Ken Sayers wrote: > , but if she builds a new house I understand, according to the NBN website, > that FTTP is the preferred technology to build. No, its only preferred in new estates - which is the estate developers responsibility (not home builder) not new general house builds outside of new estate developments. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] anyone for telstra out there
1. This is not whingepool, the List charter forbids end user issues discussed, that said - 2. Forget DSL, call your voice provider and report a no dial tone fault. On 20/01/2018 08:14, a...@coastalaudio.com.au wrote: > Hey all! > > My ADSL2+ connection died a couple of days ago - along with my phone line… > > NBN have been working in pits around the corner, so I can only assume that > they have screwed something up. > > I can see this lasting weeks and I work from home and desperately need this > sorted. > > Is there anyone from Telstra out there who can help me? > > L1 are useless and I can't get on to L2 support - I waited 90 mins on 1300 > 361 145 yesterday and gave up… > > Cheers > > Andy > > [1] > Virus-free. www.avg.com [1] > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [2] and ODF [3] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient [2] http://www.adobe.com/ [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] High latency between TPG AS7545 and Microsoft AS8075
2 * * * 3 203-219-166-130.static.tpgi.com.au (203.219.166.130) 26.879 ms 27.594 ms 29.014 ms 4 203-26-22-113.static.tpgi.com.au (203.26.22.113) 47.850 ms 47.853 ms 50.443 ms 5 203-219-107-86.static.tpgi.com.au (203.219.107.86) 52.731 ms 53.360 ms 53.368 ms 6 203-219-35-132.static.tpgi.com.au (203.219.35.132) 47.058 ms 42.258 ms 42.226 ms 7 202.7.171.78 (202.7.171.78) 41.004 ms 36.557 ms 35.921 ms 8 ae1-0.syd03-96cbe-1b.ntwk.msn.net (204.152.140.113) 35.312 ms 35.283 ms 34.569 ms 9 104.44.236.54 (104.44.236.54) 37.732 ms 35.199 ms 36.570 ms On 27/11/2017 21:27, Nathan Collins wrote: > Faults don't want to hear anything about it, they attributed the latency to > high bandwidth usage on the end user's connection. > > Hoping a TPG engineer is on-list and can help push it through the first level > support hurdle. > > I just returned home today and was able to test from my TPG FTTN connection, > same result - so definitely not isolated to a particular customer as support > are claiming. > > 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 3.554 ms 1.883 ms 2.319 ms > 2 10.20.22.239 (10.20.22.239) 9.881 ms 9.405 ms 11.051 ms > 3 cbr-apt-mar-csw2-te-1-8.tpgi.com.au (203.213.56.33) 15.134 ms 15.096 ms > 14.004 ms > 4 cbr-apt-mar-crt1-ge-2-0-0.tpgi.com.au (203.219.106.101) 15.132 ms 13.752 > ms 13.580 ms > 5 syd-sot-ken-crt1-te-gi-0-4-0-9.tpgi.com.au (203.219.106.113) 15.764 ms > 20.028 ms 16.308 ms > 6 203-219-107-82.static.tpgi.com.au (203.219.107.82) 19.769 ms 20.863 ms > 16.373 ms > 7 203-219-35-196.static.tpgi.com.au (203.219.35.196) 16.174 ms 15.188 ms > 15.764 ms > 8 202.7.171.78 (202.7.171.78) 130.289 ms 128.093 ms 129.700 ms > 9 ae1-0.syd03-96cbe-1b.ntwk.msn.net (204.152.140.113) 129.323 ms > ae11-0.syd03-96cbe-1b.ntwk.msn.net (104.44.226.159) 129.472 ms 130.187 ms > 10 104.44.236.54 (104.44.236.54) 130.487 ms 130.348 ms 130.364 ms -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] KSK Rollover Postponed
I've voiced my opinion elsewhere but i'll add it here too. The Key should just be rolled, we've been given months of warnings, so when it fails and said networks CSR lines become jammed because 3/4 of the internet is gone, it will soon get things fixed, and, the many pissed off CEO's (who likely will also be personally affected) will be calling into question the competence of certain lazy staff and have them explain why they've done nothing and why they should keep their jobs. Too many in this game think their in a safe haven and are just flat out lazy. On 28/09/2017 14:46, Save Vocea wrote: > Dear AusNOG Community, > > A couple of weeks ago I posted ICANNs' KSK rollover timelines in here. > > It was announced today that the plan to change the cryptographic key [1] that > helps protect the Domain Name System (DNS) is being postponed. > > The changing or "rolling" of the KSK Key was originally scheduled to occur on > 11 October, but it is being delayed because some recently obtained data shows > that a significant number of resolvers used by Internet Service Providers > (ISPs) and Network Operators are not yet ready for the Key Rollover. The > availability of this new data is due to a very recent DNS protocol feature > that adds the ability for a resolver to report back to the root servers which > keys it has configured. > > Full announcement is here: > https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2017-09-27-en > > Regards, > > Save Vocea > > ICANN staff in the region > > FROM: Save Vocea > DATE: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 4:53 PM > TO: "aus...@ausnog.net" > SUBJECT: KSK rollover timeline and how to check if your systems are ready > > Dear AusNOG list members, > > I'd appreciate if this is shared through your network /organizations and to > check if your systems won't be affected by the following change. > > The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is planning > to roll, or change, the "top" pair of cryptographic keys used in the Domain > Name System Security Extensions (DNSSEC) protocol, commonly known as the Root > Zone KSK. This will be the first time the KSK has been changed since it was > initially generated in 2010, and is considered an important security step, in > much the same way that regularly changing passwords is considered a prudent > practice by any Internet user. > > WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? > > Rolling the KSK means generating a new cryptographic public and private key > pair and distributing the new public component to parties who operate > validating resolvers, including: Internet Service Providers; enterprise > network administrators and other Domain Name System (DNS) resolver operators; > DNS resolver software developers; system integrators; and hardware and > software distributors who install or ship the root's "trust anchor." The KSK > is used to cryptographically sign the Zone Signing Key (ZSK), which is used > by the Root Zone Maintainer to DNSSEC-sign the root zone of the Internet's > DNS. > > WHY DO YOU NEED TO PREPARE? > > Currently, 25% of global Internet users, or 750 million people, use > DNSSEC-validating resolvers that could be affected by the KSK rollover. If > these validating resolvers do not have the new key when the KSK is rolled, > end users relying on those resolvers will encounter errors and be unable to > access the Internet. > > HOW TO KNOW IF YOUR SYSTEMS ARE UP-TO-DATE? > > ICANN is offering a test bed for operators or any interested parties to > confirm that their systems handle the automated update process correctly. > Check to make sure your systems are ready by visiting: > http://go.icann.org/KSKtest. > > WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR THIS PROCESS? > > * OCTOBER 27, 2016: KSK rollover process begins as the new KSK is generated. > * JULY 11, 2017: Publication of new KSK in DNS. > * SEPTEMBER 19, 2017: Size increase for DNSKEY response from root name > servers. > * OCTOBER 11, 2017: New KSK begins to sign the root zone key set (the actual > rollover event). > * JANUARY 11, 2018: Revocation of old KSK. > * MARCH 22, 2018: Last day the old KSK appears in the root zone. > * AUGUST 2018: Old key is deleted from equipment in both ICANN Key Management > Facilities. > > More information about the root zone KSK rollover is available here: > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ksk-rollover. > > Thank you, > > SAVE VOCEA > > VP, Global Stakeholder Engagement, Oceania > > ICANN -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileg
Re: [AusNOG] Business customer smashing their "unlimited" MBE 20/20Mbps internet service
*nods* Firstly, if a SP is having issues with a customer maxing out a 20megger, that SP has bigger problems. Secondly, and since 20mbps is hurting this SP I don't recommend this to them, but ordinarily your sales dept should be calling them, " your maxing out your 20mbps link 100% utilisation, we think it would be to your advantage to UPGRADE your link" - which of course is at a higher cost :) On 28/09/2017 14:15, David Hughes wrote: > Can't say I've ever heard the words "fair use" and "business grade" being > applied to the same service before. If you're selling it as an open 20meg > pipe then that's what I'd expect to be getting if I was the client. > > David > ... > >> On 28 Sep 2017, at 1:20 pm, James Cunningham wrote: >> >> Hello Ausnog, >> >> We have a customer who we are providing a 20Mbps AAPT Wholesale, MBE e-line >> service for, and we have given them the service with Unlimited Internet data >> - but subject to fair use. >> >> The customer is smashing the service, 100% of the time, running it at at the >> full 19-20Mbps, 24/7, every single day, including weekends. This is >> resulting in 5-6TB of internet data that they are transferring through us, >> and our IP transit upstream, which is obviously costing us a fair chunk in >> IP transit costs. >> >> We haven't said anything to the customer, but I'm curious to see what other >> people would consider "fair use" of an business grade, unlimited Internet >> service. >> >> We already peer with Megaport and IX-Australia so we try to minimise our IP >> transit costs as much as possible, but this traffic is going directly >> Telstra, and we are loosing out on this particular customer. Do we just suck >> it up, or would you increase the customers monthly fee, throttle them, etc? >> >> Thoughts here would be appreciated. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Draytek Vigor 2830 - Remote Dial In Users
On 20/09/2017 10:29, Daniel Watson wrote: > Hi List > > I hope somebody here might be able to assist with this small issue I seem to > be having with a customers router at present > > When setting up remote dial-in users, the first user works fine, but no > additional users seem to work > > If i move the user3 to user1 it works, so its ONLY allowing #1 to > authenticate > > If anybody may know of a fix Please let me know. > > Daniel Try asking in the correct places, like whingepool, or SAGE, this is not a place to solve end user problems, incase you need refreshing please review the list charter. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Offical outage notification page for NBN?
On 13/09/2017 17:23, Ross Gay wrote: > I have been asking the same question for 2 years now and I don't believe so. > I have asked our NBN consultant a number of times and have always come up > empty handed. probably because they have so many outages they'd get dizzy changing it all the time. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] TPG Routing Issues from EFM Services
Looks like someone at TPG noticed the thread... maybe they'll also notice the suggestion to put in auto failover measures :) On 04/08/2017 09:20, Noel Butler wrote: > TPG have had major routing issues with half international sites unreachable > for many hours. my first alert was 245am > > On 04/08/2017 08:58, Milan Rajkovic wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> We seem to have this strange issue with EFM Services this morning, we are >> not able to route to 34.204.28.78 >> >> We get to 203.221.3.67 and can't get any further… -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] TPG Routing Issues from EFM Services
TPG have had major routing issues with half international sites unreachable for many hours. my first alert was 245am On 04/08/2017 08:58, Milan Rajkovic wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > We seem to have this strange issue with EFM Services this morning, we are not > able to route to 34.204.28.78 > > We get to 203.221.3.67 and can't get any further… > > Hoping someone can contact me off list for assistance. > > Kind Regards, > Milan > 0423009366 -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] Solomon Islands loses landing rights for a cable in Sydney
On 27/07/2017 17:43, Jonathan Brewer wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 at 12:37, Mark Newton wrote: > >> A submarine cable connecting Sydney to the Solomon Islands is being refused >> a landing permit in Sydney because it's being built by Huawei. >> >> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-refuses-to-connect-to-undersea-cable-built-by-chinese-company-20170726-gxj9bf.html >> >> >> So, uh, don't do that then, hey? > > You mean don't land in Australia, right? > > We've got plenty of Huawei in New Zealand networks, including our UFB > network. (That's the one I get 1000/500 fibre service from for about AUD > $110/month). Guess what? It works. And it doesn't come with any more spyware > than Cisco or Juniper. > > What's the Australian government's problem? Is it protectionism? Racism? > Something else? > > -JB They are quite happy for NSA and GCHQ to know our every moves it seems, but not the CSS I'd be sure to find more spyware in cisco and other USA gear, than in Huawei's. Besides, Washington probably told them not to trust them, but in same breath say "trust us with our spyware" yeah right, the entire USA govt is like a bad rerun of the apprentice. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] NBN back of house Tech on list?
These two sites are in northern parts of Brisbane... bloody hopeless, no data flow issues with telstra were fixed within minutes usually (of making right phone contact) else a day or two, these NBN clowns are utterly useless, it's beyond third world. I'm lucky, my cheaper and stable DSL will keep me going for years yet as NBN have no data for me - and I dont WANT NBN to come here so things stay that way LOL, though I note my parents are scheduled for early next year, guess I'll have the aggravation of sorting out theirs when NBN F it up.. On 14/06/2017 19:46, Murat Sener wrote: > Where are you located I got a guy that does the installs and service > assurance jobs might be able to work something out if your in Melbourne > > Get Outlook for iOS [1] > - > > FROM: AusNOG on behalf of Noel Butler > > SENT: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:17:15 PM > TO: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > SUBJECT: Re: [AusNOG] NBN back of house Tech on list? > > Welcome to the NBN normality, I'm aware of some with sync but no data flow > for 4 plus weeks, if this was a Telstra DSL, can you IMAGINE the whingepool > outcry and its 400 odd pages of trolling. > > -- > Kind Regards, > > Noel Butler > > This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright > protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or > reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to > do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then > delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. > Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [2] and ODF [3] > documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents > > MESSAGE PROTECTED BY PREMIER TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS [4] - POWERED BY MAILGUARD > [5]. -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [2] and ODF [3] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] https://aka.ms/o0ukef [2] http://www.adobe.com/ [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument [4] http://www.premiertech.com.au [5] http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
Re: [AusNOG] NBN back of house Tech on list?
Welcome to the NBN normality, I'm aware of some with sync but no data flow for 4 plus weeks, if this was a Telstra DSL, can you IMAGINE the whingepool outcry and its 400 odd pages of trolling. On 14/06/2017 17:39, Cameron Murray wrote: > Guys, > > Is there anyone on list who can help me out with a "consumer" nbn problem in > the NBNco database? > > Customer has been without service for 3 weeks and orders for NBN pending > since November and going nowhere in a hurry, > > TIA > > ___ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents Links: -- [1] http://www.adobe.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog