Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Mike O'Connor]

Hi All

Another options instead of Opengear is Teltonika routers which 3g/4g
modem/s and a product system called ZeroTier.

The Teltonika have industrial mounting options and wider supply voltage
range.

Cheers
Mike

On 29/7/20 7:23 pm, Jared Hirst wrote:
> We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.
>
> They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse
> software by OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a
> connection and call home to the lighthouse server that�s also not on
> our network via VPN, so it works on pretty much every carrier.
>
> Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn�t need a static IP.
>
> Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!
>
>> On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST be...@slattery.net.au
>> <mailto:be...@slattery.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.
>>  Looking at Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost
>> $80k per month in OOB services globally if this stands up
>> technically.  Talking to same provider in Australia.  Static IP etc.
>>
>> B
>>
>> 
>> *From:* AusNOG > <mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of David Hughes
>> mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
>> *To:* Benjamin Ricardo
>> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>>  
>>
>> Hey
>>
>> I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the
>> previous provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally
>> but they may be able to offer you something compelling.
>>
>>
>>
>> David
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo >> <mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a
>>> wholesaler) that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a *static
>>> IPv4 address*?
>>>  
>>> We�ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous
>>> wholesaler has decided that they�re not doing this anymore�. cause
>>> they don�t want to� **sigh**
>>>  
>>> Replies off list please,
>>>  
>>> Many thanks
>>>  
>>> Ben
>>>  
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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Mark Smith]

OFFLIST

Dear Bevan,

NextSuperMegaCloudOOB.com is available, if you'd like to submit a proposal
to my recently launched, fully capitalised early stage venture, Mark Smith
eVentures International Incorporated. I await your response and your bank
account details so I can deposit $500 dollars.

Warmest Regards,
Mark.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, 09:13 Bevan Slattery,  wrote:

> Installed in 360+ data centres worldwide.  It adds up quickly…  I think
> it’s more by the time we include Xconnects at some sites.
>
>
>
> [b]
>
>
>
> *From: *Darren Moss 
> *Date: *Thursday, 30 July 2020 at 9:09 am
> *To: *Benjamin Ricardo , Jared Hirst <
> jared.hi...@serversaustralia.com.au>, Bevan Slattery <
> be...@slattery.net.au>, David Hughes 
> *Cc: *AusNOG Mailing List 
> *Subject: *RE: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> Hi Ben,
>
>
>
> Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the
> only mobile service that works reliably.
>
>
>
> We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just
> didn’t work.
>
>
>
> +1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once
> running they are reliable.
>
>
>
>
>
> D.
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Benjamin
> Ricardo
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM
> *To:* Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that
> responded privately.
>
>
>
> The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability
> to be a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal
> strength in the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support
> which seems to be pretty flexible.
>
> I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though
> (less moving parts… got to hate VPN lockups).
>
> Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We’re a touch shy of that.. eh
> hem..
>
>
>
> Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about
> creating noise on the list!
>
> For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a
> result of this request (listed FIFO) -
>
> 2SG (2sg.com.au)
>
> Exetel
>
> Field Solutions Group <– have not checked this out yet though.
>
> URL networks
>
> Virtutel
>
> ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
>
> Connected Australia
>
>
>
> Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)
>
> MVNE
>
> Notes
>
> Vanilla Telecom
>
> No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network
>
> iBoss Symbio
>
> No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only
>
> Vertel
>
> No layer 2
>
> 2SG
>
> Layer 2/VPDN solution offered
>
>
>
> If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.
>
>
>
> Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to
> all that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jared Hirst 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes <
> da...@hughes.com.au>; Benjamin Ricardo 
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List 
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.
>
>
>
> They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by
> OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and
> call home to the lighthouse server that’s also not on our network via VPN,
> so it works on pretty much every carrier.
>
>
>
> Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn’t need a static IP.
>
>
>
> Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!
>
> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>
> On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST be...@slattery.net.au wrote:
>
>
>
> We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at
> Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in
> OOB services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same
> provider in Australia.  Static IP etc.
>
>
>
> B
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* AusNOG  on behalf of David
> Hughes 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
> *To:* Benjamin Ricardo
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey
>
>
>
> I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB ove

Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[David Hughes]

Hey Ross,

It's a static public IP.


Thanks

David
...


On 29 Jul 2020, at 5:22 pm, Ross [Eve IT] 
mailto:r...@eve-it.net>> wrote:

David, are we talking about static private or public IP addresses?

I'm also curious as I have a few OOB devices in the field that were using the 
Telstra.Extranet APN that you could request to have a public IP which I believe 
they are phasing out.
In my instance, I don't care if it's dynamic, I just need it public on the 
device.

Regards,
Ross.


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:43 PM David Hughes 
mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>> wrote:

Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...



On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to… *sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Julián Ciro]

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, 3:49 pm Benjamin Ricardo, 
wrote:

> Should also add
>
> “Over The Wire” overthewire.com.au to this list.. thanks for your help
> Chris.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Wallace | Polyfone Telecom Pty Ltd 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:53 AM
> *To:* Darren Moss ; Benjamin Ricardo <
> ben.rica...@acs.com.au>; Jared Hirst ;
> Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes 
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List 
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> G’day Darren
>
>
>
> Did you hear from us yet?
>
>
>
> Kent Plummer?
>
> Polyfone?
>
>
>
> We’re the big guys on the Goldie
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Wallace
>
> CEO
>
> Polyfone
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> --
>
> *From:* AusNOG  on behalf of Darren Moss
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:08:58 AM
> *To:* Benjamin Ricardo ; Jared Hirst <
> jared.hi...@serversaustralia.com.au>; Bevan Slattery <
> be...@slattery.net.au>; David Hughes 
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List 
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> Hi Ben,
>
>
>
> Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the
> only mobile service that works reliably.
>
>
>
> We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just
> didn’t work.
>
>
>
> +1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once
> running they are reliable.
>
>
>
>
>
> D.
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
> ] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Ricardo
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM
> *To:* Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that
> responded privately.
>
>
>
> The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability
> to be a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal
> strength in the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support
> which seems to be pretty flexible.
>
> I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though
> (less moving parts… got to hate VPN lockups).
>
> Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We’re a touch shy of that.. eh
> hem..
>
>
>
> Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about
> creating noise on the list!
>
> For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a
> result of this request (listed FIFO) -
>
> 2SG (2sg.com.au)
>
> Exetel
>
> Field Solutions Group <– have not checked this out yet though.
>
> URL networks
>
> Virtutel
>
> ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
>
> Connected Australia
>
>
>
> Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)
>
> MVNE
>
> Notes
>
> Vanilla Telecom
>
> No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network
>
> iBoss Symbio
>
> No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only
>
> Vertel
>
> No layer 2
>
> 2SG
>
> Layer 2/VPDN solution offered
>
>
>
> If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.
>
>
>
> Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to
> all that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jared Hirst 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes <
> da...@hughes.com.au>; Benjamin Ricardo 
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List 
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.
>
>
>
> They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by
> OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and
> call home to the lighthouse server that’s also not on our network via VPN,
> so it works on pretty much every carrier.
>
>
>
> Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn’t need a static IP.
>
>
>
> Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!
>
> On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST be...@slattery.net.au wrote:
>
>
>
> We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at
> Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in
> OOB services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same
> provider in Australia.  Static IP etc.
>
>
>
> B
>
>
> --

Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Benjamin Ricardo]

Should also add
"Over The Wire" overthewire.com.au to this list.. thanks for your help Chris.


From: Paul Wallace | Polyfone Telecom Pty Ltd 
Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:53 AM
To: Darren Moss ; Benjamin Ricardo 
; Jared Hirst ; 
Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes 
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

G'day Darren

Did you hear from us yet?

Kent Plummer?
Polyfone?

We're the big guys on the Goldie

Regards
Paul Wallace
CEO
Polyfone

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: AusNOG 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on 
behalf of Darren Moss 
mailto:darren.m...@cloud365.com.au>>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:08:58 AM
To: Benjamin Ricardo mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>>; 
Jared Hirst 
mailto:jared.hi...@serversaustralia.com.au>>;
 Bevan Slattery mailto:be...@slattery.net.au>>; David 
Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List mailto:aus...@ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


Hi Ben,



Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the only 
mobile service that works reliably.



We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just didn't 
work.



+1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once running 
they are reliable.





D.



From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin 
Ricardo
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM
To: Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider



Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that 
responded privately.



The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be 
a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in 
the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support which seems to be 
pretty flexible.

I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less 
moving parts... got to hate VPN lockups).

Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We're a touch shy of that.. eh hem..



Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about 
creating noise on the list!

For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result 
of this request (listed FIFO) -

2SG (2sg.com.au)

Exetel

Field Solutions Group <- have not checked this out yet though.

URL networks

Virtutel

ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)

Connected Australia



Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)

MVNE


Notes


Vanilla Telecom


No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network


iBoss Symbio


No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only


Vertel


No layer 2


2SG


Layer 2/VPDN solution offered




If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.



Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all 
that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.



Cheers,

Ben







From: Jared Hirst 
mailto:jared.hi...@serversaustralia.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
To: Bevan Slattery mailto:be...@slattery.net.au>>; David 
Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>; Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List mailto:aus...@ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider



We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.



They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by 
OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call 
home to the lighthouse server that's also not on our network via VPN, so it 
works on pretty much every carrier.



Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn't need a static IP.



Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!



On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST 
be...@slattery.net.au<mailto:be...@slattery.net.au> wrote:



We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at 
Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB 
services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in 
Australia.  Static IP etc.



B





From: AusNOG 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on 
behalf of David Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider





Hey



I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.







David

...







On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:



Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone knows of a service pro

Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Drikus Brits]

You can add EntrustICT to the list as well. They also provide Layer2/VPDN
services. They they terminate it on their own Mikrotiks and hand off as
ethernet where you need it.

Drikus,
.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:52 PM Benjamin Ricardo 
wrote:

> Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that
> responded privately.
>
>
>
> The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability
> to be a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal
> strength in the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support
> which seems to be pretty flexible.
>
> I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though
> (less moving parts… got to hate VPN lockups).
>
> Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We’re a touch shy of that.. eh
> hem..
>
>
>
> Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about
> creating noise on the list!
>
> For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a
> result of this request (listed FIFO) -
>
> 2SG (2sg.com.au)
>
> Exetel
>
> Field Solutions Group <– have not checked this out yet though.
>
> URL networks
>
> Virtutel
>
> ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
>
> Connected Australia
>
>
>
> Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)
>
> MVNE
>
> Notes
>
> Vanilla Telecom
>
> No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network
>
> iBoss Symbio
>
> No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only
>
> Vertel
>
> No layer 2
>
> 2SG
>
> Layer 2/VPDN solution offered
>
>
>
> If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.
>
>
>
> Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to
> all that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jared Hirst 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes <
> da...@hughes.com.au>; Benjamin Ricardo 
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List 
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
> We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.
>
>
>
> They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by
> OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and
> call home to the lighthouse server that’s also not on our network via VPN,
> so it works on pretty much every carrier.
>
>
>
> Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn’t need a static IP.
>
>
>
> Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!
>
>
>
> On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST be...@slattery.net.au wrote:
>
>
>
> We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at
> Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in
> OOB services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same
> provider in Australia.  Static IP etc.
>
>
>
> B
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* AusNOG  on behalf of David
> Hughes 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
> *To:* Benjamin Ricardo
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey
>
>
>
> I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the
> previous provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but
> they may be able to offer you something compelling.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a
> wholesaler) that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a *static IPv4
> address*?
>
>
>
> We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler
> has decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to…
> **sigh**
>
>
>
> Replies off list please,
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Bevan Slattery]

Installed in 360+ data centres worldwide.  It adds up quickly…  I think it’s 
more by the time we include Xconnects at some sites.

[b]

From: Darren Moss 
Date: Thursday, 30 July 2020 at 9:09 am
To: Benjamin Ricardo , Jared Hirst 
, Bevan Slattery , 
David Hughes 
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List 
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

Hi Ben,

Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the only 
mobile service that works reliably.

We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just didn’t 
work.

+1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once running 
they are reliable.


D.

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Ricardo
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM
To: Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that 
responded privately.

The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be 
a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in 
the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support which seems to be 
pretty flexible.
I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less 
moving parts… got to hate VPN lockups).
Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We’re a touch shy of that.. eh hem..

Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about 
creating noise on the list!
For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result 
of this request (listed FIFO) -
2SG (2sg.com.au)
Exetel
Field Solutions Group <– have not checked this out yet though.
URL networks
Virtutel
ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
Connected Australia

Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)

MVNE
Notes

Vanilla Telecom

No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network

iBoss Symbio

No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only

Vertel

No layer 2

2SG

Layer 2/VPDN solution offered

If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.

Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all 
that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.

Cheers,
Ben



From: Jared Hirst 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
To: Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes ; 
Benjamin Ricardo 
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.

They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by 
OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call 
home to the lighthouse server that’s also not on our network via VPN, so it 
works on pretty much every carrier.

Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn’t need a static IP.

Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!

On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST 
be...@slattery.net.au<mailto:be...@slattery.net.au> wrote:

We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at 
Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB 
services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in 
Australia.  Static IP etc.

B


From: AusNOG 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on 
behalf of David Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...



On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to… *sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Darren Moss]

Hi Ben,

Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the only 
mobile service that works reliably.

We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just didn't 
work.

+1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once running 
they are reliable.


D.

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin 
Ricardo
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM
To: Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that 
responded privately.

The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be 
a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in 
the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support which seems to be 
pretty flexible.
I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less 
moving parts... got to hate VPN lockups).
Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We're a touch shy of that.. eh hem..

Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about 
creating noise on the list!
For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result 
of this request (listed FIFO) -
2SG (2sg.com.au)
Exetel
Field Solutions Group <- have not checked this out yet though.
URL networks
Virtutel
ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
Connected Australia

Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)

MVNE

Notes


Vanilla Telecom


No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network


iBoss Symbio


No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only


Vertel


No layer 2


2SG


Layer 2/VPDN solution offered


If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.

Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all 
that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.

Cheers,
Ben



From: Jared Hirst 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
To: Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes ; 
Benjamin Ricardo 
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.

They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by 
OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call 
home to the lighthouse server that's also not on our network via VPN, so it 
works on pretty much every carrier.

Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn't need a static IP.

Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!

On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST 
be...@slattery.net.au<mailto:be...@slattery.net.au> wrote:

We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at 
Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB 
services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in 
Australia.  Static IP etc.

B


From: AusNOG 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on 
behalf of David Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...



On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We've got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they're not doing this anymore cause they don't want to... 
*sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Benjamin Ricardo]

Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that 
responded privately.

The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be 
a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in 
the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support which seems to be 
pretty flexible.
I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less 
moving parts... got to hate VPN lockups).
Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We're a touch shy of that.. eh hem..

Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about 
creating noise on the list!
For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result 
of this request (listed FIFO) -
2SG (2sg.com.au)
Exetel
Field Solutions Group <- have not checked this out yet though.
URL networks
Virtutel
ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
Connected Australia

Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)

MVNE

Notes


Vanilla Telecom


No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network


iBoss Symbio


No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only


Vertel


No layer 2


2SG


Layer 2/VPDN solution offered


If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.

Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all 
that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.

Cheers,
Ben


From: Jared Hirst 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
To: Bevan Slattery ; David Hughes ; 
Benjamin Ricardo 
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.

They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by 
OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call 
home to the lighthouse server that's also not on our network via VPN, so it 
works on pretty much every carrier.

Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn't need a static IP.

Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!


On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST 
be...@slattery.net.au<mailto:be...@slattery.net.au> wrote:

We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at 
Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB 
services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in 
Australia.  Static IP etc.

B


From: AusNOG 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on 
behalf of David Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...




On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We've got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they're not doing this anymore cause they don't want to... 
*sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Jared Hirst]

We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.

They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by 
OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call 
home to the lighthouse server that’s also not on our network via VPN, so it 
works on pretty much every carrier.

Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn’t need a static IP.

Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!
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On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST 
be...@slattery.net.au<mailto:be...@slattery.net.au> wrote:

We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at 
Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB 
services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in 
Australia.  Static IP etc.

B


From: AusNOG 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on 
behalf of David Hughes mailto:da...@hughes.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...



On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to… *sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Bevan Slattery]

We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at 
Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB 
services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in 
Australia.  Static IP etc.

B


From: AusNOG  on behalf of David Hughes 

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...



On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to… *sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Ross [Eve IT]]

David, are we talking about static private or public IP addresses?

I'm also curious as I have a few OOB devices in the field that were using
the Telstra.Extranet APN that you could request to have a public IP which I
believe they are phasing out.
In my instance, I don't care if it's dynamic, I just need it public on the
device.

Regards,
Ross.


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:43 PM David Hughes  wrote:

>
> Hey
>
> I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the
> previous provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but
> they may be able to offer you something compelling.
>
>
>
> David
> ...
>
>
>
> On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a
> wholesaler) that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a *static IPv4
> address*?
>
> We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler
> has decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to…
> **sigh**
>
> Replies off list please,
>
> Many thanks
>
> Ben
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Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[David Hughes]

Hey

I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous 
provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be 
able to offer you something compelling.



David
...



On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo 
mailto:ben.rica...@acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We’ve got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they’re not doing this anymore…. cause they don’t want to… *sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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[AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

[Benjamin Ricardo]

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) 
that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We've got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has 
decided that they're not doing this anymore cause they don't want to... 
*sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks

Ben

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