Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

2019-05-22 Thread Mark Andrews
They should all be including a record you control rather than listing the IP 
directly.
The point of the include directive is to prevent situations like this.

> On 22 May 2019, at 3:22 pm, Martin - StudioCoast 
>  wrote:
> 
> We tried that initially, however it is a shared hosting server and a lot of 
> sites on it have SPF records listing the IP which we don't have access to, so 
> we're a bit stuck at the moment
> short of contacting all the customers to manually change their SPF!
> 
> On 22/05/2019 1:48 pm, Bradley Amm wrote:
>> Might be quicker to change the IP address of the server if you don't get any 
>> luck
>> 
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Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

2019-05-21 Thread Martin - StudioCoast
We tried that initially, however it is a shared hosting server and a lot 
of sites on it have SPF records listing the IP which we don't have 
access to, so we're a bit stuck at the moment

short of contacting all the customers to manually change their SPF!


On 22/05/2019 1:48 pm, Bradley Amm wrote:
Might be quicker to change the IP address of the server if you don't 
get any luck


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Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

2019-05-21 Thread Bradley Amm
Might be quicker to change the IP address of the server if you don't get any 
luck

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From: AusNOG  on behalf of Martin - 
StudioCoast 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 10:36:41 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact


In this case, the email messages are delivered correctly into the Office365 
network for domains hosted by Office365.
(Our logs show the outlook.com MX records accepting delivery)
The problem is happening internal to their network, where a rogue mail flow 
rule for one customer is rerouting all emails from one of our servers.

It appears Office365 customers are allowed to add IP address based rules (in 
particular "mail flow connectors") without authentication which could be used 
by a malicious office365
user to effectively divert all mail from a source IP regardless of recipient 
into their account.

I am still in the process of trying to escalate within the Office365 support 
channels, but not having much luck so far...

On 22/05/2019 11:54 am, Paul Wilkins wrote:
Martin,

Just so we're all on the same page, email routing is never directly related to 
IP allocations, it's MX bound if properly standards compliant. And if the 
canonical MX record is directing to the alternate customer, the problem lies 
with DNS not email.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

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Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

2019-05-21 Thread Martin - StudioCoast
In this case, the email messages are delivered correctly into the 
Office365 network for domains hosted by Office365.

(Our logs show the outlook.com MX records accepting delivery)
The problem is happening internal to their network, where a rogue mail 
flow rule for one customer is rerouting all emails from one of our servers.


It appears Office365 customers are allowed to add IP address based rules 
(in particular "mail flow connectors") without authentication which 
could be used by a malicious office365
user to effectively divert all mail from a source IP regardless of 
recipient into their account.


I am still in the process of trying to escalate within the Office365 
support channels, but not having much luck so far...



On 22/05/2019 11:54 am, Paul Wilkins wrote:

Martin,

Just so we're all on the same page, email routing is never directly 
related to IP allocations, it's MX bound if properly standards 
compliant. And if the canonical MX record is directing to the 
alternate customer, the problem lies with DNS not email.


Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

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Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

2019-05-21 Thread Paul Wilkins
Martin,

Just so we're all on the same page, email routing is never directly related
to IP allocations, it's MX bound if properly standards compliant. And if
the canonical MX record is directing to the alternate customer, the problem
lies with DNS not email.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 10:14, Martin - StudioCoast <
martin.sincl...@studiocoast.com.au> wrote:

> Been there, done that. The support responses I have received show a lack
> of understanding of the issue unfortunately...
>
> On 21/05/2019 8:16 am, Greg Lipschitz wrote:
>
> Hi Martin
>
>
> The best way to get Office 365 support is log in to the portal as the
> tenancy administrator and open a support request.
>
>
> They are extremely good at finding these sorts of issues and have a range
> of PowerShell scripts they can run against your tenancy to find the issue.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

2019-05-20 Thread Martin - StudioCoast
Been there, done that. The support responses I have received show a lack 
of understanding of the issue unfortunately...



On 21/05/2019 8:16 am, Greg Lipschitz wrote:


Hi Martin


The best way to get Office 365 support is log in to the portal as the 
tenancy administrator and open a support request.



They are extremely good at finding these sorts of issues and have a 
range of PowerShell scripts they can run against your tenancy to find 
the issue.



Cheers

Greg


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