[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
The following issue has a resolution that has been APPLIED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: Applied Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text:https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5341 Resolution: Accepted As Marked Fixed in Version: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2021-05-07 15:37 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 2020-10-30 18:23 shware_systems Note Added: 0005088 2020-10-31 09:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005091 2020-10-31 15:13 shware_systems Note Added: 0005092 2021-04-29 15:48 geoffclare Note Added: 0005341 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Final Accepted Text => https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5341 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Status New => Resolved 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Resolution Open => Accepted As Marked 2021-04-29 15:50 geoffclare Tag Attached: issue8 2021-05-07 15:37 geoffclare Status Resolved => Applied ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
The following issue has been RESOLVED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: Resolved Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text:https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5341 Resolution: Accepted As Marked Fixed in Version: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2021-04-29 15:49 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 2020-10-30 18:23 shware_systems Note Added: 0005088 2020-10-31 09:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005091 2020-10-31 15:13 shware_systems Note Added: 0005092 2021-04-29 15:48 geoffclare Note Added: 0005341 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Final Accepted Text => https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5341 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Status New => Resolved 2021-04-29 15:49 geoffclare Resolution Open => Accepted As Marked ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2021-04-29 15:48 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005341) geoffclare (manager) - 2021-04-29 15:48 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5341 -- Make the changes from "Additional APIs for Issue 8, Part 1" (Austin/1110). Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 2020-10-30 18:23 shware_systems Note Added: 0005088 2020-10-31 09:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005091 2020-10-31 15:13 shware_systems Note Added: 0005092 2021-04-29 15:48 geoffclare Note Added: 0005341 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-31 15:13 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005092) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-31 15:13 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5092 -- Re: 5091 You're fixated on there's only one way to do locale processing, it looks, and there's more. That you aren't willing to even entertain such possibilities means it is your commentary that is invalid and should be ignored, except as noted. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 2020-10-30 18:23 shware_systems Note Added: 0005088 2020-10-31 09:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005091 2020-10-31 15:13 shware_systems Note Added: 0005092 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-31 09:29 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005091) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-31 09:29 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5091 -- Re: https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5088 I give up. Correcting your misconceptions it taking up too much of my time. Unless anyone else feels like taking up the reins, I suggest that we ignore any further comments "shware_systems" makes about LC_ALL in this bug. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 2020-10-30 18:23 shware_systems Note Added: 0005088 2020-10-31 09:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005091 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-30 18:23 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005088) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-30 18:23 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5088 -- No, I understand some are silly enough to implement it that way because the standard allows it and this simplifies the code a tiny bit, but also frequently wastes significant space on redundant string storage when a system has many processes active. Having all categories reference a single string value after a setlocale(LC_ALL) isn't precluded, however. You are correct, for these implementations as they stand, this affects what getlocalename_l(LC_ALL, LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE) can return. The only reliable value is the default "POSIX" required at process startup. I do not see as onerous adding a CX requirement to setlocale() that when LC_ALL is used the value be saved for use by this interface. Similar goes for newlocale() when base is 0 about locale_t data maintaining a reference. This does not force them to change code to make use of it for accessing locale data, but enables this feature to be portable. Other possibilities are ENOSUP as a may fail error or a sysconf() "is this reliable" check for adding it to be robust. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 2020-10-30 18:23 shware_systems Note Added: 0005088 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-30 09:23 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005086) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-30 09:23 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5086 -- Re: https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5085 You misunderstand what setlocale() does with LC_ALL. It sets all of the categories, but individually; it does not remember an "LC_ALL locale". Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 2020-10-30 09:23 geoffclare Note Added: 0005086 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-29 18:25 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005085) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-29 18:25 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5085 -- Environment variables are reliable only when it is known putenv() or setenv() hasn't modified the value. 3rd party libraries cannot make this assumption. If an application calls setlocale(LC_ALL, all_locale), getlocalename_l(LC_ALL, LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE) will be expected to return the value of all_locale, not multiple values. Without such a call, the application requirement that they start with the effect of setlocale(LC_ALL, "POSIX") means that gets returned, again a single value. Returning every name would be the province of a separate interface that returns a char** value, nominally, not char*, to avoid having to parse the return like is required with setlocale(). A savobj=duplocale(oldobj) and newlocale(,,oldobj);oldobj=savobj; simply use the current values, which is frequently desirable, but doesn't guarantee this is the LC_ALL value that is relevant if newlocale(LC_ALL_MASK, all_locale, 0) was what created oldobj to begin with. A library can't assume oldobj=newlocale(e.g. LC_CTYPE_MASK,value, oldobj) hasn't been called before it sees it or duplocale() was called. So no, it can NOT be done reliably using just the existing interfaces. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 2020-10-29 18:25 shware_systems Note Added: 0005085 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-26 16:16 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005067) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-26 16:16 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5067 -- Re note 5065, environment variables are not always used (and if they are used, then they can simply be queried with getenv()). If an application calls:setlocale(LC_NUMERIC, locale1); setlocale(LC_TIME, locale2);then getlocalename_l(LC_ALL, LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE) would have to return, somehow, the information that the locale name for LC_NUMERIC is locale1, for LC_TIME is locale2, and for all other categories is "C" or "POSIX". With locale objects, in order to modify a locale and restore later there is no need to query locale names. It can be done using the existing locale_t handling functions (i.e. duplocale(), newlocale(), uselocale(), and freelocale()). Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 2020-10-26 16:16 geoffclare Note Added: 0005067 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-26 14:50 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005065) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-26 14:50 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5065 -- Nothing in Note: 5037 implies multiple locale names are to be returned, mimicing setlocale(). The LC_ALL and LANG environment values are just a single name. That was someone's invention during that call this was the intent and I agree it would be nonsensical to do it. We've even argued at other times it's non-sensical for setlocale() to require it to begin with. The primary reason this makes sense is it simplifies library routines that modify aspects of a locale but then are expected to reset them to the original LC_ALL value. Without a means to query the object for this name a separate parameter to the function is required to specify that value, since the function has no way of knowing a previous name returned after a change is the same as that LC_ALL name, nor that LC_ALL in the environment hasn't been modified. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 2020-10-26 14:50 shware_systems Note Added: 0005065 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-26 10:03 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005063) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-26 10:03 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5063 -- Re note 5062, note 5037 was discussed in the 8th October teleconference and the decision we made was that we would not modify https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5035 to add support for LC_ALL. In the 12th October teleconference we moved on to the backlog of other bugs because we had finished looking at the bugs relating to new APIs sponsored by The Open Group. To add support for LC_ALL we would need to specify how multiple locale names would be returned, and this would be complicated by the existence of additional non-standard categories. If an application wants to know the locale names for all of the categories, it can simply query them one at a time. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 2020-10-26 10:03 geoffclare Note Added: 0005063 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-23 15:57 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005062) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-23 15:57 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5062 -- I feel Note:5059 is premature, in that Note: 5037 is still open for discussion on the Etherpad. I thought we were getting back to that after the current bug discussion was concluded. There is at least one implementation that already has the internal support for it, as well, and therefore exposing that support as suggested is trivial. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 2020-10-23 15:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005062 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-23 14:21 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005059) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-23 14:21 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5059 -- The getlocalename_l() addition has been made in the Issue8NewAPIs branch in gitlab, based on https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5035. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 2020-10-23 14:21 geoffclare Note Added: 0005059 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-07 15:08 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005037) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-07 15:08 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5037 -- Looks decent, but I think LC_ALL shouldn't be precluded; I'd rather see it reflect the value of LC_ALL or LANG referenced in the environment when newlocale() was called to create locobj, or inherited via duplocale(), and may return an empty string, or "POSIX", if neither are set. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 2020-10-05 17:58 shware_systems Note Edited: 0005030 2020-10-07 13:29 geoffclare Note Added: 0005035 2020-10-07 15:08 shware_systems Note Added: 0005037 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-07 13:29 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005035) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-07 13:29 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5035 -- Alternative changes that solve the thread-safety problem by having getlocalename_l() handle LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE ... On page 286 line 9687 section , add:[CX]const char *getlocalename_l(int, locale_t);[/CX] On page 1050 insert a new getlocalename_l page: NAMEgetlocalename_l - get a locale name from a locale object SYNOPSIS[CX]#include const char * getlocalename_l(int category, locale_t locobj);[/CX] DESCRIPTIONThe getlocalename_l() function shall return the locale name for the given locale category of the locale object locobj, or of the global locale if locobj is the special locale object LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE. The category argument specifies the locale category to be queried. If the value is LC_ALL or is not a supported locale category value (see [xref to setlocale()]), getlocalename_l() shall fail. The behavior is undefined if the locobj argument is neither the special locale object LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE nor a valid locale object handle. RETURN VALUEUpon successful completion, getlocalename_l() shall return a pointer to a string containing the locale name; otherwise, a null pointer shall be returned. If locobj is LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE, the returned string pointer might be invalidated or the string content might be overwritten by a subsequent call in the same thread to getlocalename_l() with LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE; the returned string pointer might also be invalidated if the calling thread is terminated. Otherwise, the returned string pointer and content shall remain valid until the locale object locobj is used in a call to freelocale() or as the base argument in a successful call to newlocale(). ERRORSNo errors are defined. EXAMPLESDetermining the locale name for a category of the current locale The following example shows how to obtain the locale name for the LC_NUMERIC category of the current thread-local locale, or of the global locale if no thread-local locale is in use.#include ... const char *name; locale_t loc = uselocale(NULL); name = getlocalename_l(LC_NUMERIC, loc); APPLICATION USAGENone. RATIONALEHistorical versions of getlocalename_l() did not handle the special locale object LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE, requiring that applications used setlocale(category, NULL) to query the global locale if uselocale(NULL) returned LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE. However, since setlocale() is not required to be thread-safe (even when the only concurrent calls are ones that query the locale), this method was problematic for multi-threaded processes. This standard requires that getlocalename_l(category, LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE) queries the global locale in a thread-safe manner, for example by returning a pointer to a thread-local internal buffer instead of a process-wide internal buffer. FUTURE DIRECTIONSNone. SEE ALSOfreelocale(), newlocale(), setlocale(), uselocale() XBD Chapter 7 (on page XXX), CHANGE HISTORYFirst released in Issue 8. Add getlocalename_l() to the SEE ALSO section for each page listed in the getlocalename_l() SEE ALSO above. On page 3791 line 130104 section E.1, add getlocalename_l() to the POSIX_MULTI_CONCURRENT_LOCALES subprofile group. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaible
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-05 17:57 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005030) shware_systems (reporter) - 2020-10-05 17:57 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5030 -- Option (A) I would consider an unwarranted CX extension to setlocale(), for reasons related to preemptive thread scheduling. I wonxt belabor why, just is a 'nox vote, imho. I feel Option (B) has more to commend it, being POSIX specific and gives a use for LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE, not have its use be undefined. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 2020-10-05 17:57 shware_systems Note Added: 0005030 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-05 15:45 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005027) bhaible (reporter) - 2020-10-05 15:45 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5027 -- Alas, there is an issue with the example program: It should be possible to implement multithread-safe information consumers. However, setlocale is not multithread-safe: "The setlocale() function need not be thread-safe." I see two ways to fix this: (A) Specify that setlocale(category,NULL) is multithread-safe. That is, if thread1 executes setlocale(category1,NULL) and thread2 executes setlocale(category2,NULL), these two calls will not interfere with each other. Currently this is known to be true (for category == LC_ALL) on GNU libc, HP-UX, IRIX, Solaris, Microsoft Windows, and is known to be false (again, for category == LC_ALL) on musl libc, macOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, AIX, Haiku, Cygwin. (B) Specify that getlocalename_l(category,LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE) returns the same result as setlocale(category,NULL) and that getlocalename_l is multithread-safe. What is preferred, (A) or (B)? Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 11:13 geoffclare Note Edited: 0005026 2020-10-05 15:45 bhaibleNote Added: 0005027 ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001220]: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220 == Reported By:bhaible Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1220 Category: System Interfaces Type: Omission Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Bruno Haible Organization: GNU User Reference: Section:--- Page Number:--- Line Number:--- Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2018-12-20 13:46 UTC Last Modified: 2020-10-05 11:11 UTC == Summary:Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object == -- (0005026) geoffclare (manager) - 2020-10-05 11:11 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220#c5026 -- Suggested changes to go into The Open Group company review... (The main differences from the desired action are the addition of the change, avoidance of the word "must", and requiring that a null pointer is returned when category is invalid, instead of the behaviour being undefined.) On page 286 line 9687 section , add:[CX]const char *getlocalename_l (int, locale_t);[/CX] On page 1050 insert a new getlocalename_l page: NAMEgetlocalename_l - get a locale name from a locale object SYNOPSIS[CX]#include const char * getlocalename_l (int category, locale_t locobj);[/CX] DESCRIPTIONThe getlocalename_l() function shall return the locale name for the given locale category of the locale object locobj. The category argument specifies the locale category to be queried. If the value is LC_ALL or is not a supported locale category value (see [xref to setlocale()]), getlocalename_l() shall fail. The behavior is undefined if the locobj argument is the special locale object LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE or is not a valid locale object handle. RETURN VALUEUpon successful completion, getlocalename_l() shall return a pointer to a string containing the locale name; otherwise, a null pointer shall be returned. The returned string shall remain valid until the locale object locobj is used in a call to freelocale() or as the base argument in a successful call to newlocale(). ERRORSNo errors are defined. EXAMPLESDetermining the locale name for a category of the current locale The following example shows how to extract the locale name for the LC_NUMERIC category of the current thread-local locale, or of the global locale if no thread-local locale is in use.#include ... const char *name; locale_t loc = uselocale(NULL); if (loc == LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE) name = setlocale(LC_NUMERIC, NULL); else name = getlocalename_l(LC_NUMERIC, loc); APPLICATION USAGEApplications need to ensure that they do not pass the special locale object handle LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE as the locobj argument, even when returned by the uselocale() function. RATIONALENone. FUTURE DIRECTIONSNone. SEE ALSOfreelocale(), newlocale(), setlocale(), uselocale() XBD Chapter 7 (on page XXX), CHANGE HISTORYFirst released in Issue 8. Add getlocalename_l() to the SEE ALSO section for each page listed in the getlocalename_l() SEE ALSO above. On page 3791 line 130104 section E.1, add getlocalename_l() to the POSIX_MULTI_CONCURRENT_LOCALES subprofile group. Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleNew Issue 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleName => Bruno Haible 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleOrganization => GNU 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleSection => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaiblePage Number => --- 2018-12-20 13:46 bhaibleLine Number => --- 2020-10-05 11:11 geoffclare Note Added: 0005026 ==
