Re: distcheck problem.

2003-06-18 Thread Davy Durham
OKAY!   I finally got it working.  It didn't used to cause problems the 
way I was doing things before.  But anyway it's working now.  Thanks for 
your help.

Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:

[...]

Davy> These files are listed in the DIST_COMMON (at least I'm pretty sure
Davy> DIST_COMMON is where these files are coming from in the cp commands)
Davy> so I'm not explicitly listing them myself anywhere to be distributed.
Davy> I've tried several versions between and including 1.6.3 to 1.7.5
I think you should definitely revise the way you use EXTRA_DIST
in your Makefile.am.  Automake is designed to distribute files
using an opt-in strategy.  Most of the times, Automake can
figure automatically what files to distribute.  Sometimes, there
are a few files that Automake does not know about but that you
want to distribute: you should list each of these files in
EXTRA_DIST.
What your Makefile.am tries to implement is an opt-out strategy:
all directories are listed in EXTRA_DIST, and with a dist-hook
you clean the mess by removing most of the unwanted cruft.  This
will only get you into trouble.
EXTRA_DISTing directories should be reserved to directories with
generated/dynamic contents.  Perhaps they can be useful in other
situations too, but at least EXTRA_DISTing a directory which
appears in SUBDIRS looks really awkward (your config/ directory
is not in SUBDIRS but you have a few other directories in this
situation).
The (more specific) error you report is related to the fact that
Automake has already decided to distribute the files from
config/ that it needs (those you mention), and yet you are
EXTRA_DISTing this config/ directory.  Some implementation
details prevent a file from being distributed both individually
and as a directory member.
For more on this config/ issue, see PR/390 in the Automake Gnats
database.  A related topic to EXTRA_DISTing subdirectories is
the use of wildcards: there is a entry about this in the
Automake FAQ (in recent manuals).
 







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Re: distcheck problem.

2003-06-18 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
Hi Davy,

>>> "Davy" == Davy Durham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

 Davy> These files are listed in the DIST_COMMON (at least I'm pretty sure
 Davy> DIST_COMMON is where these files are coming from in the cp commands)
 Davy> so I'm not explicitly listing them myself anywhere to be distributed.
 Davy> I've tried several versions between and including 1.6.3 to 1.7.5

I think you should definitely revise the way you use EXTRA_DIST
in your Makefile.am.  Automake is designed to distribute files
using an opt-in strategy.  Most of the times, Automake can
figure automatically what files to distribute.  Sometimes, there
are a few files that Automake does not know about but that you
want to distribute: you should list each of these files in
EXTRA_DIST.

What your Makefile.am tries to implement is an opt-out strategy:
all directories are listed in EXTRA_DIST, and with a dist-hook
you clean the mess by removing most of the unwanted cruft.  This
will only get you into trouble.

EXTRA_DISTing directories should be reserved to directories with
generated/dynamic contents.  Perhaps they can be useful in other
situations too, but at least EXTRA_DISTing a directory which
appears in SUBDIRS looks really awkward (your config/ directory
is not in SUBDIRS but you have a few other directories in this
situation).

The (more specific) error you report is related to the fact that
Automake has already decided to distribute the files from
config/ that it needs (those you mention), and yet you are
EXTRA_DISTing this config/ directory.  Some implementation
details prevent a file from being distributed both individually
and as a directory member.

For more on this config/ issue, see PR/390 in the Automake Gnats
database.  A related topic to EXTRA_DISTing subdirectories is
the use of wildcards: there is a entry about this in the
Automake FAQ (in recent manuals).
-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: spam

2003-06-18 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
>>> "Bob" == Bob Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Bob> Hi,
 Bob> Is there some sort of Email filter you guys could use to
 Bob> keep spam at a minimum. It seems like the automake mailing list
 Bob> recieves a lot of spam ( in comparison to other mailing lists ).

spam is filtered globally on all gnu.org lists since last
summer[*].  There is nothing we can do here about this.  You
should discuss this matter on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list.

[*] You can get the feeling here:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/bug-automake/2002/
-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: Problem with libtool

2003-06-18 Thread Marcus Bjurman
> I did just see a similar problem, but it was related with 
> re'configure'ingof the project sources with a different --prefix. 
> It seems that the
> libtool .la file is not updated with the new prefix, I had to `make 
> clean`before it got it right. Perhaps there's a similar thing about 
> your stuff
> here that the linker script (.la) has an old prefix from an earlier 
> build?
> have fun,
> -- guido  


Yes, 'make clean' solved the problem :)

thanks

/Marcus





Re: Problems getting dependencies compiled before executable....

2003-06-18 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
>>> "Assar" == Assar Westerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

 Assar> bar/libbar.la:
 Assar> cd bar && $(MAKE) libbar.la

Unless you declare this rule as PHONY (or list all the
dependencies of bar/libbar.la and the dependencies thereof) this
introduces a bug in the case the library already exists.  Your
program will be linked to the old library, and then the library
will be rebuilt when make enter the subdirectory as part of the
SUBDIRS recursion.
-- 
Alexandre Duret-Lutz





Re: Problem with libtool

2003-06-18 Thread Guido Draheim


Marcus Bjurman schrieb:
Hi,

My project (http://www.nongnu.org/gcmd/) consists of two parts. One shared library and one ordinary executable linked agains the library. The library gets built alright but when building the executable libtool doesn't respect the $prefix that was choosen at configure-time. What I mean is that the rpath that libtool uses at link-time always gets set to /usr/local/lib regardless of the $prefix. This obviously causes a problem after the install since the executable is linked against a library in /usr/local/lib that doesn't exist.

I checked the libtool script av saw that the variable used for rpath is libdir. Checking further I saw that all makefiles have libdir setup correctly to $(prefix)/lib.

So my question basicly is: where does libtool get the libdir variable from? And then what is the correct way of getting the correct value there?

BTW: I have checked other packages such as xmms that has the same basic layout with a library and an executable. They all work so its not a problem with the installation, its rather a problem with me not being able to figure out why they work and not my project ;)

Please CC replies to me

/Marcus

I did just see a similar problem, but it was related with re'configure'ing
of the project sources with a different --prefix. It seems that the
libtool .la file is not updated with the new prefix, I had to `make clean`
before it got it right. Perhaps there's a similar thing about your stuff
here that the linker script (.la) has an old prefix from an earlier build?
have fun,
-- guido  http://google.de/search?q=guidod
GCS/E/S/P C++/$ ULHS L++w- N++@ d(+-) s+a- r+@>+++ y++ 5++X- (geekcode)




Re: Quick Upgrade Question

2003-06-18 Thread Joel Apter
Actually, I'm only upgrading because I'm trying to install a package that
requires the new autoconf/make so I'm not sure that the autoreconf and
autoupdate are necessary, but I will look into those commands if I run into
a problem.  Thanks...

Btw, sorry about the previous mail in HTML format, shouldn't happen again...

Joel

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> "Joel Apter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > matter).  Would a simple configure, make, make install be all that is
> > necessary for both automake and autoconf (autoconf before automake
> > since it appears that autoconf 2.54+ is required to install automake
> > 1.7.5).  Thank you for your time.
>
> Yes.  And then you should be able to just run 'autoreconf -f -i' in
> your package.  You might also want to look at 'autoupdate' in the
> autoconf manual.
>





spam

2003-06-18 Thread Bob Rossi
Hi,

Is there some sort of Email filter you guys could use to
keep spam at a minimum. It seems like the automake mailing list
recieves a lot of spam ( in comparison to other mailing lists ).

Bob Rossi




Re: readme-alpha option and .90 pretests

2003-06-18 Thread Karl Berry
Perhaps you should tell the people behind:

The "gnit-picker gang", like I said, was a few friends, not an official
group of any kind.  I was one of them.

http://www.amath.washington.edu/~lf/tutorials/autoconf/gnits/gnits.html

Ah.  It's been enough years that I'd forgotten that François (Pinard)
had made up a skeleton gnits document, augmenting and with the same
layout as the GNU coding standards.  It was never supposed to be
published.

I don't see any email addresses at http://www.amath.washington.edu/~lf,
so I can't write to him/her asking to remove it.  I don't know who lf
is, none of the gnits'ers have those initials.  In any case, I'd guess
it's been copied to a zillion places by now.

All I can say is, again, the Gnits "standards" aren't real.  Automake
should just follow the GNU coding standards.  If you don't believe me,
you can write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a mailing list and domain that I
maintain/own, by the way :).

Note that even if you accept that document (which is fine, for what it
is), it says GNU standards take precedence by a mile.

Thanks,
k




Problem with libtool

2003-06-18 Thread Marcus Bjurman
Hi,

My project (http://www.nongnu.org/gcmd/) consists of two parts. One shared library and 
one ordinary executable linked agains the library. The library gets built alright but 
when building the executable libtool doesn't respect the $prefix that was choosen at 
configure-time. What I mean is that the rpath that libtool uses at link-time always 
gets set to /usr/local/lib regardless of the $prefix. This obviously causes a problem 
after the install since the executable is linked against a library in /usr/local/lib 
that doesn't exist.

I checked the libtool script av saw that the variable used for rpath is libdir. 
Checking further I saw that all makefiles have libdir setup correctly to $(prefix)/lib.

So my question basicly is: where does libtool get the libdir variable from? And then 
what is the correct way of getting the correct value there?

BTW: I have checked other packages such as xmms that has the same basic layout with a 
library and an executable. They all work so its not a problem with the installation, 
its rather a problem with me not being able to figure out why they work and not my 
project ;)

Please CC replies to me

/Marcus





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Re: readme-alpha option and .90 pretests

2003-06-18 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Karl Berry wrote:
> comes from the Gnits standards.
> There is no such thing as "Gnits standards".  I was/am a founding member
> of "gnits" (which was just a few friends talking informally), and I can
> state this authoritatively :).
Perhaps you should tell the people behind:
http://www.amath.washington.edu/~lf/tutorials/autoconf/gnits/gnits.html

?

rlc