mailing list archives (Was: Re: automake -vs- huge projects)

2003-12-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz 
 Tom == Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 Tom I looked into this a bit today.  One nice thing about having a patch
 Tom list is that it records the rationale for changes somewhere... back in
 Tom those days that sort of information was just lost.  Sigh.

I thought so, until I discovered that mailing list archives at
mail.gnu.org had been truncated on 2000-09.  I have a copy of
the archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 1998-04 on my disk (it
contains a lengthy discussion about --enable-maintainer-mode)
which I downloaded from mail.gnu.org and which is not available
there anymore.

Fortunately, [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been archived at several
places.  FWIW, here is where to dig copies of old mails sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  mail.gnu.org2000-09 ... today
  www.geocrawler.com  1997... 2002
  gmane.org   2002-03 ... today
  sources.redhat.com  1999-04 ... today

For [EMAIL PROTECTED], it worse since AFAIK, it's only
archived at mail.gnu.org and gmane.org.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] is also archived on sourceware, but the
archives start at 1999-04.  I've just discovered that
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/GNU/403/0/ seems to cover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for 1997-2002.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is only archived at mail.gnu.org and
gmane.org.  It is quite young so the mail.gnu.org archive is
complete, however I fear the day it will be cut.

[...]

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Alexandre Duret-Lutz

Re: mailing list archives (Was: Re: automake -vs- huge projects)

2003-12-30 Thread Thomas Dickey 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is only archived at mail.gnu.org and
 gmane.org.  It is quite young so the mail.gnu.org archive is
 complete, however I fear the day it will be cut.

any idea what fraction of the archive is spam?

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Thomas E. Dickey
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: mailing list archives

2003-12-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz 
 Thomas == Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thomas On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is only archived at mail.gnu.org and
  gmane.org.  It is quite young so the mail.gnu.org archive is
  complete, however I fear the day it will be cut.

 Thomas any idea what fraction of the archive is spam?

For [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've counted 8 spams in 2003.
I may have missed one or two, but this looks negligible (1%).

If you were talking about all the archives in general I've no
idea.  I guess it's probably worse on the bug lists since 
they are advertised a lot.  My favorite is the bug-automake
archive of 2002
  http://sources.redhat.com/ml/bug-automake/2002/
at some point during the summer gnu.org activated spamassassin,
and that shows!
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Alexandre Duret-Lutz