Re: Am I right?

2008-07-02 Thread vamsi krishna
Hi Supun,
    Let me take an example to explain, correct me if I am wrong.
Flow1:
    Step1: I pass my datastructure to get the payload. 1000 records of 
Firstname, LastName, Address, Age, Sex, School, Hobbies.
Step2: The datastructure is passed to libxml2 or guththila parser 
to construct the xml document out of it. libxml2 or guththila parser, 
constructs the xml document and returns the document.
Step3: From this returned document, the AXIOM tree is constructed.
 
Flow2:
   Step1: I pass the request to get records whose age is less than 20.
   Step2: libxml2 or guththila parser parses the xml document 
constructed [Pull Parser fashion] and returns the records.
    Step3: From the returned set of records, the AXIOM tree is 
constructed.
 
Is this what you mean by What happens is the XML document is pull parsed by 
guththila or libxml2 and the values returned by this pull parsing is used to 
construct the tree or the linked list.
 
Flow3:
    Step1: I pass the request to get the record with name=vamsi.
    Step2: libxml2 or guththila parser parses the xml document constructed 
[pull parser fashion] and returns the record if exists. Once parser finds the 
matching record, it stops to parse the document further and returns the record. 
    Step3: From the returned value, the AXIOM tree is constructed.
 
Is this what you mean by The main difference is that the XML document is 
parsed on demand with of the user. So the XML document can be parsed halfway 
and the model will be built halfway. In other parsing technologies we parse the 
whole XML document at once

 
Observation:
    1. From this I understood that, the xml document[DOM/OM] which is 
constructed in the Flow1 will be in memory to service our further queries. 
2. From Flow2, the time taken to get the matching record of vamsi is 
O(n) which is same as in the traditional parsing techniques. Only difference is 
that traditional approach whould have parsed the entire document irrespective 
of it got the matching record or not, where as pull parsing stopped its search 
immediatly after matched record is found.
 
Please let me know if I am in a right track now.


Vamsi, IIIT-Hyd.

--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Supun Kamburugamuva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Supun Kamburugamuva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Am I right?
To: Apache AXIS C User List axis-c-user@ws.apache.org
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:12 AM











i Friends,
    What I understood about AXIOM is this... please tell me if i am 
right...
 
    1. Axiom is a linked list which is capable of holding the XML 
document more conveniently as it has members like attributes, namespaces, etc. 
Right. The linked list contains axiom_node_t structure. These nodes can contain 
data like axiom_element_t, axiom_text_t etc. 







    2. These members of the linked list are used to pin point the 
required node or required attribute of the node with out parsing the whole 
structure constructed, when ever needed. [This capability of pin pointing is 
called PULL PARSING technique]

Right. After building this model or tree the pin pointing is more like in DOM. 







    3. We make use of libxml2 or guththilla parsers to construct the 
XML document [which is a DOM structure].
 We call this Document oject model om.







    4. This XML document acts as an input to construct the AXIOM tree 
which can be pull parsed. [AXIOM tree is a wrapper around libxml2's XML 
document, so that it can be pull parsed]
I'm not sure what you are saying here. What happens is the XML document is pull 
parsed by guththila or libxml2 and the values returned by this pull parsing is 
used to construct the tree or the linked list. The main difference is that the 
XML document is parsed on demand with of the user. So the XML document can be 
parsed halfway and the model will be built halfway. In other parsing 
technologies we parse the whole XML document at once.

Supun..  







 
   Am I right in understating the concepts of AXIOM and pull parsing? 
Please correct me if I am not correct. 

 

Vamsi, IIIT-Hyd.




  

Re: rampart and message with no parameter

2008-07-02 Thread Frederic Heem

Samisa Abeysinghe wrote:

Frederic Heem wrote:

Dear,
Rampart has been successfully used for messages with at least one 
parameter. To be precise, sec_echo has been used with scenario3. 
However, a problem arises when a message without parameter has to 
sent, indeed, in this case, the body is empty and rampart refuses to 
send the message because it complains that no node has to be 
encrypted. Does anyone know how to tackle this problem ? One ugly 
hack would be to add a fake parameter, but one has to modify the wsdl.


I think this is not a Rampart problem, rather an Axis2/C feature. If 
the payload is empty, Axis2/C thinks that there is something wrong.
The rationale for this design was that, if there is no payload to 
send, why send an empty message.


What are the semantics of you sending this message? What does that 
message do? I am trying to understand the meaning of such an empty 
message.


The web service being developed  has many messages, some of them doesn't 
have any parameters, e.g GetDeviceList() . In this case, the body is 
empty but the header is not empty and contains the action which is used 
by the server to dispatch this message. Therefore, it makes sense to 
send a message with an empty body. Without using rampart, axis2c doesn't 
complain about the empty body and send the message which is interpreted 
by the server correctly.

Regards,

Samisa...


Frederic


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Re: rampart and message with no parameter

2008-07-02 Thread Supun Kamburugamuva

  The web service being developed  has many messages, some of them doesn't
 have any parameters, e.g GetDeviceList() . In this case, the body is empty
 but the header is not empty and contains the action which is used by the
 server to dispatch this message. Therefore, it makes sense to send a message
 with an empty body. Without using rampart, axis2c doesn't complain about the
 empty body and send the message which is interpreted by the server
 correctly.
 Regards,


If you have many operations and some of them have empty bodies I suggest you
use operation level policies.

Supun..


  Samisa...

  Frederic


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Re: rampart and message with no parameter

2008-07-02 Thread Manjula Peiris

On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 18:52 +0530, Manjula Peiris wrote:
 There can be messages with empty bodies. For example WS-Reliable
 messaging sends such messages. I think this is a bug in Rampart/C.
 Because what following assertion says is encrypt the first child of body
 if it is there.
 sp:EncryptedParts
 sp:Body/
 /sp:EncryptedParts
 
 So if the body is not there it should not return an error.
Rather if it is an empty body it should not return an error from
Rampart/C.

 
 
 On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:28 +0100, Frederic Heem wrote:
  Samisa Abeysinghe wrote:
   Frederic Heem wrote:
   Dear,
   Rampart has been successfully used for messages with at least one 
   parameter. To be precise, sec_echo has been used with scenario3. 
   However, a problem arises when a message without parameter has to 
   sent, indeed, in this case, the body is empty and rampart refuses to 
   send the message because it complains that no node has to be 
   encrypted. Does anyone know how to tackle this problem ? One ugly 
   hack would be to add a fake parameter, but one has to modify the wsdl.
  
   I think this is not a Rampart problem, rather an Axis2/C feature. If 
   the payload is empty, Axis2/C thinks that there is something wrong.
   The rationale for this design was that, if there is no payload to 
   send, why send an empty message.
  
   What are the semantics of you sending this message? What does that 
   message do? I am trying to understand the meaning of such an empty 
   message.
  
  The web service being developed  has many messages, some of them doesn't 
  have any parameters, e.g GetDeviceList() . In this case, the body is 
  empty but the header is not empty and contains the action which is used 
  by the server to dispatch this message. Therefore, it makes sense to 
  send a message with an empty body. Without using rampart, axis2c doesn't 
  complain about the empty body and send the message which is interpreted 
  by the server correctly.
  Regards,
   Samisa...
  
   Frederic
  
  
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