Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-11-20 Thread keith chapman
Hi all,

I've added Content Negotiation via Accept header to Axis2 in revision
596950. As stated previously this would mean that doing a GET (Just typing
in a URL on the browser) from the browser would result in a SOAP
1.1response cause the browsers accept header  says text/xml.

Do we need a switch in the axis2.xml to control this feature?

Thanks,
Keith.

On Oct 21, 2007 1:21 PM, keith chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes they are unaffected as long as they dont send the Accept header (Wich
> clients dont do unless explicitly set)
>
> Thanks,
> Keith.
>
>
> On 10/19/07, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > However, isn't the answer to Nick's first question yes? That is,
> > existing
> > services which do only SOAP are unaffected by this proposed change.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > keith chapman wrote:
> > > Hi Nicholas,
> > >
> > > Yes it will be in effect for all application (Subjected to the fact
> > that
> > > it sends an Accept header). If the client does not send an Accept
> > header
> > > then everything will be as it used to be. But as Glen suggested we
> > could
> > > have a switch to turn this feature off.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Keith.
> > >
> > > On 10/19/07, *Nicholas L Gallardo* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote:
> > >
> > > Glen,
> > >
> > > >  If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1
> > > regardless
> > > >  of the Accept header, right?
> > >
> > > That's my understanding. I believe this is addressed in the SOAP
> > 1.2
> > > spec as to what constitutes a mismatch error and what kinds of
> > > responses can go back.
> > >
> > > Would this leave the existing behavior unchanged for services that
> > > declare an explicit SOAP binding in a WSDL? In other words, does
> > > this just apply to endpoints choosing to leverage a RESTful
> > > pattern/API, or will all applications be subject to negotiation?
> > >
> > > -Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Inactive hide details for Glen Daniels < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Glen
> > > Daniels < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>
> > >
> > >
> > >             *Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >*
> > >
> > > 10/18/2007 05:41 AM
> > > Please respond to
> > > axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > > <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To
> > >
> > > axis-dev@ws.apache.org <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
> > >
> > > cc
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject
> > >
> > > Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi folks:
> > >
> > > +1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to
> > control
> > > whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm
> > just
> > > saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and
> > allow
> > > the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in
> > Keith's
> > > proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is
> > using the
> > > SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or
> > > whatever), it
> > > should always return SOAP on a GET.
> > >
> > > Also...
> > >
> > > > > a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> > > > > response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and
> > there is
> > > > > no matching value in the Accept header).
> > >
> > > If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1regardless
> > > of the Accept header, right?
> > >
> > > --Glen
> > >
> > > Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > > >  +1 from me.
> > > >
> > > >  For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2]
> > gives
> > > >  rationale f

Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-21 Thread keith chapman
Yes they are unaffected as long as they dont send the Accept header (Wich
clients dont do unless explicitly set)

Thanks,
Keith.

On 10/19/07, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> However, isn't the answer to Nick's first question yes? That is, existing
> services which do only SOAP are unaffected by this proposed change.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> keith chapman wrote:
> > Hi Nicholas,
> >
> > Yes it will be in effect for all application (Subjected to the fact that
> > it sends an Accept header). If the client does not send an Accept header
> > then everything will be as it used to be. But as Glen suggested we could
> > have a switch to turn this feature off.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keith.
> >
> > On 10/19/07, *Nicholas L Gallardo* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> > Glen,
> >
> > >  If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1
> > regardless
> > >  of the Accept header, right?
> >
> > That's my understanding. I believe this is addressed in the SOAP 1.2
> > spec as to what constitutes a mismatch error and what kinds of
> > responses can go back.
> >
> > Would this leave the existing behavior unchanged for services that
> > declare an explicit SOAP binding in a WSDL? In other words, does
> > this just apply to endpoints choosing to leverage a RESTful
> > pattern/API, or will all applications be subject to negotiation?
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> >
> >
> > Inactive hide details for Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Glen
> > Daniels < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >
> >
> > *Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>*
> >
> > 10/18/2007 05:41 AM
> >         Please respond to
> > axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> >
> > axis-dev@ws.apache.org <mailto:axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
> >
> > cc
> >
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks:
> >
> > +1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to
> control
> > whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm just
> > saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and
> allow
> > the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in
> Keith's
> > proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is using
> the
> > SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or
> > whatever), it
> > should always return SOAP on a GET.
> >
> > Also...
> >
> > > > a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> > > > response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and
> there is
> > > > no matching value in the Accept header).
> >
> > If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1regardless
> > of the Accept header, right?
> >
> > --Glen
> >
> > Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > >  +1 from me.
> > >
> > >  For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2]
> gives
> > >  rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1
> .
> > >
> > >  Sanjiva.
> > >  [1]
> >
> http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
> > <
> http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473>
> > >  [2]
> > http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html
> > <http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html>
> > >
> > >  keith chapman wrote:
> > > > Hi Devs,
> > > >
> > > > There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With
> the
> > > > concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be
> > > > implemented trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http
> > header to
> > > > serve the response requested by the client. While going through
> this

Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-19 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
However, isn't the answer to Nick's first question yes? That is, existing 
services which do only SOAP are unaffected by this proposed change.


Sanjiva.

keith chapman wrote:

Hi Nicholas,

Yes it will be in effect for all application (Subjected to the fact that 
it sends an Accept header). If the client does not send an Accept header 
then everything will be as it used to be. But as Glen suggested we could 
have a switch to turn this feature off.


Thanks,
Keith.

On 10/19/07, *Nicholas L Gallardo* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


Glen,

>  If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1
regardless
>  of the Accept header, right?

That's my understanding. I believe this is addressed in the SOAP 1.2
spec as to what constitutes a mismatch error and what kinds of
responses can go back.

Would this leave the existing behavior unchanged for services that
declare an explicit SOAP binding in a WSDL? In other words, does
this just apply to endpoints choosing to leverage a RESTful
pattern/API, or will all applications be subject to negotiation?

-Nick



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10/18/2007 05:41 AM
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Hi folks:

+1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to control
whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm just
saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and allow
the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in Keith's
proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is using the
SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or
whatever), it
should always return SOAP on a GET.

Also...

> > a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> > response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> > no matching value in the Accept header).

If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless
of the Accept header, right?

--Glen

Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>  +1 from me.
>
>  For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2] gives
>  rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1.
>
>  Sanjiva.
>  [1]
http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
<http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473>
>  [2]
http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html
<http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html>
>
>  keith chapman wrote:
> > Hi Devs,
> >
> > There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the
> > concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be
> > implemented trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http
header to
> > serve the response requested by the client. While going through this
> > though I came across a issue though. This occurs when a request is
> > sent via a GET using a browser (Cause the browser automatically adds
> > the Accept http header). The Accept header sent by firefox is
"Accept:
> >

text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".
 
> > The confusion comes in because text/xml is used for both SOAP and

REST
> > responses.
> >
> > I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a
nice
> > addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST
> > response in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot
ask for
> > a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> > response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> > no matching value in the Accept header).
> >
> > What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keith.
> >
> > --
> > Keith Chapman
> > WSO2 Inc.
> > Oxygen f

Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-18 Thread keith chapman
Hi Nicholas,

Yes it will be in effect for all application (Subjected to the fact that it
sends an Accept header). If the client does not send an Accept header then
everything will be as it used to be. But as Glen suggested we could have a
switch to turn this feature off.

Thanks,
Keith.

On 10/19/07, Nicholas L Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Glen,
>
> > If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless
> > of the Accept header, right?
>
> That's my understanding. I believe this is addressed in the SOAP 1.2 spec
> as to what constitutes a mismatch error and what kinds of responses can go
> back.
>
> Would this leave the existing behavior unchanged for services that declare
> an explicit SOAP binding in a WSDL? In other words, does this just apply to
> endpoints choosing to leverage a RESTful pattern/API, or will all
> applications be subject to negotiation?
>
> -Nick
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]Glen
> Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> *Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
>
> 10/18/2007 05:41 AM Please respond to
>     axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>
>
> To
>
> axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> cc
>
>
> Subject
>
> Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation
>
>
> Hi folks:
>
> +1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to control
> whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm just
> saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and allow
> the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in Keith's
> proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is using the
> SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or whatever), it
> should always return SOAP on a GET.
>
> Also...
>
> >> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> >> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> >> no matching value in the Accept header).
>
> If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless
> of the Accept header, right?
>
> --Glen
>
> Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > +1 from me.
> >
> > For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2] gives
> > rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> > [1]
> http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
> > [2] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html
> >
> > keith chapman wrote:
> >> Hi Devs,
> >>
> >> There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the
> >> concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be
> >> implemented trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http header to
> >> serve the response requested by the client. While going through this
> >> though I came across a issue though. This occurs when a request is
> >> sent via a GET using a browser (Cause the browser automatically adds
> >> the Accept http header). The Accept header sent by firefox is "Accept:
> >> text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9
> ,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".
> >> The confusion comes in because text/xml is used for both SOAP and REST
> >> responses.
> >>
> >> I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a nice
> >> addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST
> >> response in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot ask for
> >> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> >> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> >> no matching value in the Accept header).
> >>
> >> What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Keith.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Keith Chapman
> >> WSO2 Inc.
> >> Oxygen for Web Services Developers.
> >> http://wso2.org/
> >
>
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http://wso2.org/
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Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-18 Thread Nicholas L Gallardo

Glen,

> If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless
> of the Accept header, right?

That's my understanding.  I believe this is addressed in the SOAP 1.2 spec
as to what constitutes a mismatch error and what kinds of responses can go
back.

Would this leave the existing behavior unchanged for services that declare
an explicit SOAP binding in a WSDL?  In other words, does this just apply
to endpoints choosing to leverage a RESTful pattern/API, or will all
applications be subject to negotiation?

-Nick





   
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Hi folks:

+1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to control
whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm just
saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and allow
the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in Keith's
proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is using the
SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or whatever), it
should always return SOAP on a GET.

Also...

 >> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
 >> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
 >> no matching value in the Accept header).

If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless
of the Accept header, right?

--Glen

Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> +1 from me.
>
> For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2] gives
> rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1.
>
> Sanjiva.
> [1] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
> [2] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html
>
> keith chapman wrote:
>> Hi Devs,
>>
>> There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the
>> concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be
>> implemented trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http header to
>> serve the response requested by the client. While going through this
>> though I came across a issue though. This occurs when a request is
>> sent via a GET using a browser (Cause the browser automatically adds
>> the Accept http header). The Accept header sent by firefox is "Accept:
>> text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml
+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".
>> The confusion comes in because text/xml is used for both SOAP and REST
>> responses.
>>
>> I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a nice
>> addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST
>> response in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot ask for
>> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
>> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
>> no matching value in the Accept header).
>>
>> What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Keith.
>>
>> --
>> Keith Chapman
>> WSO2 Inc.
>> Oxygen for Web Services Developers.
>> http://wso2.org/
>

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Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-18 Thread keith chapman
On 10/18/07, Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi folks:
>
> +1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to control
> whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm just
> saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and allow
> the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in Keith's
> proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is using the
> SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or whatever),


How about using the disable REST flag for this without introducing another
flag.

it
> should always return SOAP on a GET.
>
> Also...
>
> >> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> >> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> >> no matching value in the Accept header).
>
> If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless
> of the Accept header, right?


In this case the return will be  the return will be SOAP 1.1 only is there
was no matching ACCEPT header. Id a SOAP 1.1. request came with the header
ACCEPT : text/xml then the response will be pox.

Thanks,
Keith.

--Glen
>
> Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > +1 from me.
> >
> > For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2] gives
> > rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> > [1]
> http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
> > [2] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html
> >
> > keith chapman wrote:
> >> Hi Devs,
> >>
> >> There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the
> >> concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be
> >> implemented trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http header to
> >> serve the response requested by the client. While going through this
> >> though I came across a issue though. This occurs when a request is
> >> sent via a GET using a browser (Cause the browser automatically adds
> >> the Accept http header). The Accept header sent by firefox is "Accept:
> >> text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9
> ,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".
> >> The confusion comes in because text/xml is used for both SOAP and REST
> >> responses.
> >>
> >> I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a nice
> >> addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST
> >> response in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot ask for
> >> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
> >> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> >> no matching value in the Accept header).
> >>
> >> What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Keith.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Keith Chapman
> >> WSO2 Inc.
> >> Oxygen for Web Services Developers.
> >> http://wso2.org/
> >
>
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>


-- 
Keith Chapman
WSO2 Inc.
Oxygen for Web Services Developers.
http://wso2.org/


Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-18 Thread Glen Daniels


Hi folks:

+1 from me *if* we make sure there's a flag to allow people to control 
whether a given operation supports POX or not.  Essentially I'm just 
saying we should backport the SOAP-Response MEP to SOAP 1.1, and allow 
the user to specify.  By default the behavior should be as in Keith's 
proposal, but if they indicate that a particular operation is using the 
SOAP-Response MEP (this could also be a disablePOX flag or whatever), it 
should always return SOAP on a GET.


Also...

>> a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1
>> response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
>> no matching value in the Accept header).

If the request is SOAP 1.1, we should always return SOAP 1.1 regardless 
of the Accept header, right?


--Glen

Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

+1 from me.

For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2] gives 
rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1.


Sanjiva.
[1] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
[2] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html

keith chapman wrote:

Hi Devs,

There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the 
concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be 
implemented trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http header to 
serve the response requested by the client. While going through this 
though I came across a issue though. This occurs when a request is 
sent via a GET using a browser (Cause the browser automatically adds 
the Accept http header). The Accept header sent by firefox is "Accept: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".  
The confusion comes in because text/xml is used for both SOAP and REST 
responses.


I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a nice 
addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST 
response in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot ask for 
a SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1 
response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is 
no matching value in the Accept header).


What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?

Thanks,
Keith.

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Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-17 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana

+1 from me.

For some further discussion on this see [1]. In particular [2] gives 
rationale for why its ok to give more weight to POX over SOAP 1.1.


Sanjiva.
[1] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/thread.html#473
[2] http://wso2.org/mailarchive/registry-dev/2007-October/000540.html

keith chapman wrote:

Hi Devs,

There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the 
concept of builders and formatters we have now this could be implemented 
trivially. The idea is to use the "Accept" http header to serve the 
response requested by the client. While going through this though I came 
across a issue though. This occurs when a request is sent via a GET 
using a browser (Cause the browser automatically adds the Accept http 
header). The Accept header sent by firefox is "Accept: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".  
The confusion comes in because text/xml is used for both SOAP and REST 
responses.


I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a nice 
addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST 
response in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot ask for a 
SOAP 1.1 response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP 1.1 response 
will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is no matching 
value in the Accept header).


What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?

Thanks,
Keith.

--
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WSO2 Inc.
Oxygen for Web Services Developers.
http://wso2.org/


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Re: [AXIS2] Proposal to implement http content negotiation

2007-10-17 Thread Paul Fremantle
Keith

I agree that if I do a GET I  want to get back plain ole XML and not SOAP1.1.
Since the model you are proposing also supports GET returning SOAP 1.2 (with
the appropriate Accept header), I think this works just fine.

+1

Paul

On 10/17/07, keith chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Devs,
>
> There have been some thought on http content negotiation. With the concept
> of builders and formatters we have now this could be implemented trivially.
> The idea is to use the "Accept" http header to serve the response requested
> by the client. While going through this though I came across a issue though.
> This occurs when a request is sent via a GET using a browser (Cause the
> browser automatically adds the Accept http header). The Accept header sent
> by firefox is "Accept:
> text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9
> ,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5".  The confusion comes in because
> text/xml is used for both SOAP and REST responses.
>
> I believe having http content negotiation as a feature will be a nice
> addition to Axis2. And I propose that we treat text/xml as a REST response
> in implementing this. This would mean that you cannot ask for a SOAP 
> 1.1response uaing http content negotiation (A SOAP
> 1.1 response will be went only when the request is SOAP 1.1 and there is
> no matching value in the Accept header).
>
> What do u think? Should we go ahead and implement this proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Keith.
>
> --
> Keith Chapman
> WSO2 Inc.
> Oxygen for Web Services Developers.
> http://wso2.org/




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