Known Problems [Re: Amazon and Axis]

2005-03-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Dennis, Everyone,

- IF you *KNOW* a problem make sure there is a JIRA bug. 
- IF the JIRA bug is CLOSED. Make a comment in the bug report and i
will re-open it.
- IF the JIRA bug DOES NOT have a simple test case to recreate the
bug, please add one.

IF we don't know a bug is there, we cannot fix it.

Thanks,
dims


On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:18:37 -0800, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Came across this thread when sorting through my backlog. Just for the
 sake of anyone trying this, Axis is unable to work with the Amazon web
 service interface. The problem is that Axis always sends elements with
 xsi:nil=true for values you set to null, even when the schema does not
 mark those elements as nillable. This causes problems with Amazon, where
 one element in particular is only supposed to have a particular value if
 present (though that information is not included in the schema). Here's
 an example schema fragment from the WSDL:
 
 xs:element name=ItemSearch
 xs:complexType
 xs:sequence
 xs:element name=SubscriptionId type=xs:string
 minOccurs=0/
 xs:element name=AssociateTag type=xs:string
 minOccurs=0/
 xs:element name=XMLEscaping type=xs:string
 minOccurs=0/
 xs:element name=Validate type=xs:string
 minOccurs=0/
 xs:element name=Shared
 type=tns:ItemSearchRequest minOccurs=0/
 xs:element name=Request
 type=tns:ItemSearchRequest minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=unbounded/
 /xs:sequence
 /xs:complexType
 /xs:element
 
 Here's what Axis generates:
 
 POST /onca/soap?Service=AWSECommerceService HTTP/1.0
 Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8
 Accept: application/soap+xml, application/dime, multipart/related, text/*
 User-Agent: Axis/1.2RC3
 ...
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
soapenv:Envelope
 xmlns:soapenv=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/;
 xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
 xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
   soapenv:Body
  ItemSearch
 xmlns=http://webservices.amazon.com/AWSECommerceService/2005-01-19;
 SubscriptionId/SubscriptionId
 AssociateTag xsi:nil=true/
 XMLEscaping xsi:nil=true/
 Validate xsi:nil=true/
 Shared
Count lowestSetBit=212/Count
ResponseGroupMedium/ResponseGroup
SearchIndexBooks/SearchIndex
TitleJava XML/Title
 /Shared
 Request xsi:nil=true/
  /ItemSearch
   /soapenv:Body
/soapenv:Envelope
 
 Note the AssociateTag, XMLEscaping, and Validate elements in this request.
 
 The problem was supposed to have been fixed some time ago:
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS-530 :-)  Unfortunately the fix
 doesn't work, as can be seen by the above results from RC3. :-(  From
 this and other experiences with Axis releases (including the 1 year
 cycle for a point release) I'm starting to wonder if Axis has just
 gotten to be such a mess of spaghetti code that it's no longer usable in
 production. I've been training developers on Axis for some time. It's
 embarrassing to have to spend much of the training time discussing known
 issues and ways to work around them, but there doesn't appear to be any
 alternative at present.
 
   - Dennis
 
 Dennis M. Sosnoski
 Enterprise Java, XML, and Web Services
 Training and Consulting
 http://www.sosnoski.com
 Redmond, WA  425.885.7197
 
 BTW, the work-around for this case is to edit the Amazon WSDL and strip
 out the optional elements you're not going to be using from the request
 schema definitions.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Johan Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Sorry Johan,
 
 I can not give you an url where you will find a finished service but I can
 tell you some information you would need.
 
 First of all you must register by amazon, so you will get an subscription
 Id which you need.
 Then you need for each request you send some filled standard informations.
 Therefore I can send you this link
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/landing.html/ref=gw1_mm_4/104-3068958-8487102
 or look under the amaozon websitemale moneyweb service
 
 On this pages you will find some api's how to use the amazon wsdl.
 
 Hope this might help you a bit.
 
 Greetings Olaf
 
 
 
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:25 AM
 To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
 Subject: Amazon and Axis
 Importance: High
 
 Hello
 I am a new Java Axis user and would like to know if anybody
 knows where I can find a demo on how to use Amazon's web
 services with Axis.
 
 Any help will be appreciated.
 
 Johan
 
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Re: Amazon and Axis

2005-03-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Tiny 2 line fix has been applied to latest CVS;
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-devm=110987452221625w=2

-- dims



On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:49:20 -0500, Mark Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 With respect to this issue:
 
  The problem was supposed to have been fixed some time ago:
  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS-530 :-)  Unfortunately the fix
  doesn't work, as can be seen by the above results from RC3. :-(  From
  this and other experiences with Axis releases (including the 1 year
  cycle for a point release) I'm starting to wonder if Axis has just
  gotten to be such a mess of spaghetti code that it's no longer usable in
  production. I've been training developers on Axis for some time. It's
  embarrassing to have to spend much of the training time discussing known
  issues and ways to work around them, but there doesn't appear to be any
  alternative at present.
 
 Why don't you submit a patch?  There are more committers working on
 Axis than there seem to have been in a while.  Like you, I've been
 frustrated in the past, but things seem to be improving a bit.  Its
 only going to get better if people like yourself, who understand the
 inner workings of Axis, continue to submit patches.
 
 -- Mark
 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/


Re: Amazon and Axis

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis Sosnoski
Came across this thread when sorting through my backlog. Just for the 
sake of anyone trying this, Axis is unable to work with the Amazon web 
service interface. The problem is that Axis always sends elements with 
xsi:nil=true for values you set to null, even when the schema does not 
mark those elements as nillable. This causes problems with Amazon, where 
one element in particular is only supposed to have a particular value if 
present (though that information is not included in the schema). Here's 
an example schema fragment from the WSDL:

   xs:element name=ItemSearch
   xs:complexType
   xs:sequence
   xs:element name=SubscriptionId type=xs:string 
minOccurs=0/
   xs:element name=AssociateTag type=xs:string 
minOccurs=0/
   xs:element name=XMLEscaping type=xs:string 
minOccurs=0/
   xs:element name=Validate type=xs:string 
minOccurs=0/
   xs:element name=Shared 
type=tns:ItemSearchRequest minOccurs=0/
   xs:element name=Request 
type=tns:ItemSearchRequest minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=unbounded/
   /xs:sequence
   /xs:complexType
   /xs:element

Here's what Axis generates:
POST /onca/soap?Service=AWSECommerceService HTTP/1.0
Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8
Accept: application/soap+xml, application/dime, multipart/related, text/*
User-Agent: Axis/1.2RC3
...
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
  soapenv:Envelope 
xmlns:soapenv=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/; 
xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; 
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
 soapenv:Body
ItemSearch 
xmlns=http://webservices.amazon.com/AWSECommerceService/2005-01-19;
   SubscriptionId/SubscriptionId
   AssociateTag xsi:nil=true/
   XMLEscaping xsi:nil=true/
   Validate xsi:nil=true/
   Shared
  Count lowestSetBit=212/Count
  ResponseGroupMedium/ResponseGroup
  SearchIndexBooks/SearchIndex
  TitleJava XML/Title
   /Shared
   Request xsi:nil=true/
/ItemSearch
 /soapenv:Body
  /soapenv:Envelope

Note the AssociateTag, XMLEscaping, and Validate elements in this request.
The problem was supposed to have been fixed some time ago: 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS-530 :-)  Unfortunately the fix 
doesn't work, as can be seen by the above results from RC3. :-(  From 
this and other experiences with Axis releases (including the 1 year 
cycle for a point release) I'm starting to wonder if Axis has just 
gotten to be such a mess of spaghetti code that it's no longer usable in 
production. I've been training developers on Axis for some time. It's 
embarrassing to have to spend much of the training time discussing known 
issues and ways to work around them, but there doesn't appear to be any 
alternative at present.

 - Dennis
Dennis M. Sosnoski
Enterprise Java, XML, and Web Services
Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com
Redmond, WA  425.885.7197
BTW, the work-around for this case is to edit the Amazon WSDL and strip 
out the optional elements you're not going to be using from the request 
schema definitions.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Johan Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

Sorry Johan,
I can not give you an url where you will find a finished service but I can
tell you some information you would need.
First of all you must register by amazon, so you will get an subscription
Id which you need.
Then you need for each request you send some filled standard informations.
Therefore I can send you this link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/landing.html/ref=gw1_mm_4/104-3068958-8487102
or look under the amaozon websitemale moneyweb service
On this pages you will find some api's how to use the amazon wsdl.
Hope this might help you a bit.
Greetings Olaf
 

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:25 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Amazon and Axis
Importance: High
Hello
I am a new Java Axis user and would like to know if anybody
knows where I can find a demo on how to use Amazon's web
services with Axis.
Any help will be appreciated.
Johan
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Re: Amazon and Axis

2005-03-02 Thread Mark Hansen
With respect to this issue:

 The problem was supposed to have been fixed some time ago:
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS-530 :-)  Unfortunately the fix
 doesn't work, as can be seen by the above results from RC3. :-(  From
 this and other experiences with Axis releases (including the 1 year
 cycle for a point release) I'm starting to wonder if Axis has just
 gotten to be such a mess of spaghetti code that it's no longer usable in
 production. I've been training developers on Axis for some time. It's
 embarrassing to have to spend much of the training time discussing known
 issues and ways to work around them, but there doesn't appear to be any
 alternative at present.

Why don't you submit a patch?  There are more committers working on
Axis than there seem to have been in a while.  Like you, I've been
frustrated in the past, but things seem to be improving a bit.  Its
only going to get better if people like yourself, who understand the
inner workings of Axis, continue to submit patches.

-- Mark