Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

[Mark Shuttleworth]

On 06/07/10 02:09, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
> Or will it have effect for social communication also?
> How about incoming voice and video calls?
> Do Not Disturb should be a system-exlusive mode?

Interesting questions. My gut feel would be:

 - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed
 - incoming calls would be displayed

 but I'm not sure I can rationalise the difference.

Mark



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Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

[Frederik Nnaji]

Hi there ;)

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 15:14, Mark Shuttleworth  wrote:

> Do-not-disturb did come up in our latest review of thinking for 11.04
> design work, so please ask MPT for a pointer to the (placeholder) spec
> where it should emerge. I would guess it would be a me-menu-2.0 type
> spec name.
>

reworking Ubuntu's implementation of "Presence"?
I would love to read up on this..

Do Not Disturb should be a system-exlusive mode?
Or will it have effect for social communication also?
How about incoming voice and video calls?
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Re: [Ayatana] CSD and the pressure to innovate

[Frederik Nnaji]

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 19:07, Dani Planas Armangue
wrote:

> On 04/07/10 11:54, Sense Hofstede wrote:
> > The mock-ups for Firefox 4 seem also to be using CSD. That's the only
> > way I can think of to get that menu up there in the title bar.
> > 
> >
>
> > Indeed. Again, if we have a consistent solution for the things they are
> > trying to address, we can reasonably expect them to adopt it if they
> > want to be a default option on Ubuntu.
>
> > Mark
>
> Firefox 4 will continue to have the toolbar mode. but by default will be
> hidden on the orange button. ubuntu would be nice if in default mode,
> the toolbar was present in the upper panel (consistency again).
>

Doesn't Global Menu read its items idenpendently already?
I thought it didn't depend on window decoration anymore!?
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity launcher - will an autohide option be available?

[Frederik Nnaji]

yeah, i would like to see that, too:

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 19:03, Liam Wilson  wrote:

> [...]I feel that having a auto-hide option, at least, that re-appears when
> the mouse cursor is placed on the left hand edge of the screen (like MeeGo),
> would solve this.
>

..and Contact list should be docked on the right, consistently. Pop out upon
click on edge also, if you're designing for direct pointing devices also
perhaps..
If you put Me info such as Face and name, it's a sane interface to the dbus
namespaces MeMenu obviously reads, if i understand the underlying design
correctly.

Since Empathy rests on Telepathy's shoulders, i would assume as an
overinterested user, that Wikipekia is correct about both Empathy and MeMenu
standing on a dbus grid of mutually useful namespaces..

Isn't learnability also about sharing (namespaces) after all?
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Re: [Ayatana] CSD and the pressure to innovate

[Dani Planas Armangue]

On 04/07/10 11:54, Sense Hofstede wrote:
> The mock-ups for Firefox 4 seem also to be using CSD. That's the only
> way I can think of to get that menu up there in the title bar.
> 
>   

> Indeed. Again, if we have a consistent solution for the things they are
> trying to address, we can reasonably expect them to adopt it if they
> want to be a default option on Ubuntu.

> Mark

Firefox 4 will continue to have the toolbar mode. but by default will be
hidden on the orange button. ubuntu would be nice if in default mode,
the toolbar was present in the upper panel (consistency again).







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[Ayatana] Unity launcher - will an autohide option be available?

[Liam Wilson]

Hey all, 

After having test the new Unity interface for some time now on a 10.04 install, 
and one thing I can't help but be bothered by is the Launcher.

Now, I understand that Unity will be touch friendly, so having the Launcher 
auto-hide on a touch screen may be a difficult thing to do, but I also 
understand that it will be the default interface for the next release of UNE, 
which, in my humble opinion, should be as screen efficient as possible.

Now, I know that the titlebar and menu items will be located in the panel in 
the future, which does save a lot of vertical screen space, but horizontal 
screen space in important too, and one major annoyance of mine is that Websites 
now don't fit horizontally on a 1024x600 resolution without having to scroll, 
and I feel that having a auto-hide option, at least, that re-appears when the 
mouse cursor is placed on the left hand edge of the screen (like MeeGo), would 
solve this.

If this is already planned for unity, then that's great :-)

Cheers;
Liam


  

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Re: [Ayatana] Should we change how/when Release Notes are displayed?

[Frederik Nnaji]

Hi Dylan ;)

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 20:08, Dylan McCall  wrote:

> Blender has a stellar example of release notes done right. Here's a
> recent example:
> http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-250/
>
> They carefully explain the new features in an orderly way, provide
> some sample projects, and list known issues.
>

beautiful example ;)
Thanks for reminding me of the significance Blender has to "Free" as an
profitable way of doing things; they were the first project i know of to
properly implement the "Street Performer Protocol"[1].
Surely others were there, prior to Blender, but i'm not aware of that.

Release notes should visualise advertise improvements better, you are
absolutely right.


¹
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threshold_pledge_system#Street_Performer_Protocol
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Re: [Ayatana] CSD and the pressure to innovate

[Mark Shuttleworth]

On 04/07/10 19:29, David Hamm wrote:
> " In 10.10, we'll take a big step forward in the netbook edition, by
> moving the menu into the top panel and combining it with the titlebar
> for maximised windows." 
>
> This will be very nice! Thanks Dev's. Defiantly going on my laptop,
> even tho its 12", tabs will finally hit the edge of the screen.
> Assuming I read that right.

In 11.04 that's feasible, yes. Not in 10.10.


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Re: [Ayatana] CSD and the pressure to innovate

[Mark Shuttleworth]

On 04/07/10 11:54, Sense Hofstede wrote:
> The mock-ups for Firefox 4 seem also to be using CSD. That's the only
> way I can think of to get that menu up there in the title bar.
> 
>   

Indeed. Again, if we have a consistent solution for the things they are
trying to address, we can reasonably expect them to adopt it if they
want to be a default option on Ubuntu.

Mark



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