Re: [Ayatana] MI idea suggestion
There is a branch in telepathy where email support is somewhat worked on though it's kinda abandoned atm. Yes telepathy is meant for real time communication and hence in real time u will get notifications for your emails. ie the capabilities will be limited. this is NOT a replacement for your email client. The capabilities might be something like how pidgin gives mail notifications. maybe something like that we can do in telepathy with notify-osd and mi integration so that we support many more protocols. The way this works is that for new mails the google/yahoo server sends the new email msg to us, just like it sends it to it's own messenger on windows On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Juha Siltala j...@siltala.net wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 16:09 -0400, Alex Launi wrote: Is there any info on telepathy email stuff? The telepathy devs (afaik) have always made it very clear that telepathy is for real time communication/collaboration, and not suited for things like email. I am no telepathy expert, but AFAIK the telepathy tubes that they recently built afford pretty much anything we can thing of. Abiword has a telepathy tube for collaborating on documents (at least the Sugar version on the OLPC), and there are all kinds of crazy ideas. -- Juha Siltala ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Notification in fullscreen apps
Hate to dig up this old thread. But it seems that a decision was either not taken/not announced. So what was the final decision taken on the issue of notifications in fullscreen apps. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors
You are right and hence the only sane way of solving the problem seems to be to give user the control to seta global do-not-disturb mode when he needs it and logging the messages that he misses.This has several advantages such as 1. No need to predict anything as predictions go wrong a lot. 2. Since user is in control there is less uncertainity. 3. The do-not-disturb mode is useful in many situations apart from fullscreen apps. Say i am writing a document in openoffice and it is very important and i must not be disturbed in any way. Then i simply set the do-not-disturb mode. Voila. 1 setting many uses. And there are no disadvantages of this solution which i see. 2009/7/7 Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.it MartÃn Soto ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Steve Dodier sidnio...@gmail.commailto: sidnio...@gmail.com wrote: What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an exhaustive list of applications, so maybe we should provide the user with a GUI to tell which apps shouldnt be overriden and in which circumstances (and have our own default apps there, like Evince in fullscreen, Presenter in fullscreen, etc). How many applications are there that are *commonly* used for giving presentations? Five? Ten, maybe? I really don't see a reason why this couldn't be done in a per-application basis. Martin: it suffers from the same problem as full-screen movies. If I am preparing for a presentation, I can be interrupted by mom, and if I don't want it I can set my state to busy. If I am actually showing the presentation, then I certainly don't want to be interrupted by ordinary notifications. Vincenzo ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors
This idea was brought by someone else on this list today and the problem is that a typical user goes fullscreen and back many many times even on a single day especially in and hence each time i watch a movie, or want firefox in fullscreen if i get a notification it is very much annoying. also after connecting my laptop to the projector and staring presentation if this notification does come up it is not a good thing. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? Mark ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Notification in fullscreen apps
I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently states that non-critical bubbles must be suppressed. Are notifications from pidgin/empathy considered critical or non-critical? I think that the right way of dealing with fullscreen applications is to not suppress notifications by default. instead providing a global do-not-disturb mode is more useful as whatever we do we may never guess the intentions of the user. Eg.1. Say i am waiting for a IM from my friend, and while waiting i decide to watch a movie. Then if by default i don't get notified while i am watching the movie in fullscreen and the movie goes on for 2 hours, then this is undesirable. Also IMs are meant to be acted upon instantly. With email this gets more complicated. Some people with some emails want to reply immediately and would like to be notified. Some people get 100's of email and possibly reply only once a day to emails. 2. I set a reminder in evolution for an event to occur after 1 hour and watch some documentary. I certainly dont want to miss the reminder. 3.I might be watching a movie while i wait for a torrent to finish downloading. In this case notification for loss of net connection is important,but in other cases it might not be. So i suggest guessing what notifications user wants or doesn't want in fullscreen is not really possible. Hence by *default* they must be * displayed* in fullscreen and a *do-not-disturb mode along with the system indicator+message indicator *should be a option to be set. What do others think on this? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Notification in fullscreen apps
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.itwrote: On lun, 2009-07-06 at 22:33 +0530, Praveen wrote: I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently states that non-critical bubbles must be suppressed. Are notifications from pidgin/empathy considered critical or non-critical? I have seen a thread here on ayatana where it was stated that the default policy will depend on the status as set in FUSA, because if you are watching a movie in a romantic mood you don't want ubuntu to get in the way, and if you watch the same movie alone you perhaps *want* to be interrupted for a chat :) As FUSA is no longer with us I don't know what's going on. There was also a chat about a system indicator, but no news on what it would be used for unless I missed some message. Vincenzo ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
