Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
On 28/06/10 21:40, Apoorva Sharma wrote: I really like the idea of having some sort of notification on a successful broadcast from the memenu. However, I think that too much color could be a problem. Thus, I propose the following: * After the user stops writing the message, a spinner fades in at the right end of the textbox. * If the message is successfully sent, the spinner fades out, a check fades in, and after a while, the check fades out. * If the message fails to be sent, then a red cross fades in in place of the spinner, and doesn't fade out until the message is sent. * If it fails at first, but then works, the red x fades out, and the check fades in. I think that this system would provide a minimalistic notification of the broadcast, fitting in with the minimalistic style of the panel. However, we want to preserve as many of the benefits of menu operation as possible. When you click on a menu item, or hit enter, *the menu disappears*. That makes them very lean to work with, because you don't have to act-then-dismiss, as you do with dialogs. In the tweet-from-me-menu case, we want to preserve that lightweight feeling. So, clicking on the me menu, typing your message, and pressing enter should *dismiss* the menu. But then we still want to provide some feedback on the success or failure of the tweet. Hence the desire for a spinny overlaid, followed by a green flash if it went well, and a persistent red hint if it did not. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:33, David Hamm davidth...@gmail.com wrote: had to throw this out there before it slipped my mind, but one of the disadvantages to the design I proposed was that it takes a few to many clicks to tweet. Which is of course quite a problem considering the target audience and the typical urgency of the situation. However one of the beauties of having the contact list in the corner is it allows you to take advantage of the screen edge. dock it to the edge with autohide and a jumping hinter upon new messages, or integrate it into the MeMenu. Further, having the the contact list sorted by favorites would make the Tweet contact not far off from the top as well as a swift one click open. pin stuff. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
both of those sound good, especially pinning now that it's taking off. Basically my thinking is one should be able to tweet just as fast as they can contact sally. But then again fishbowl id say failed so it is simpler to in some regards to just have the broadcast and have everything else online. That way the user can have something familiar (web) with a little extra. Please continue ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:08, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 01/06/10 15:36, Conscious User wrote: After some time actually using the Me Menu in Lucid, though, one thing is bothering me with respect to the specification itself: the lack of any kind of feedback in case the broadcasting went well. The specification states that notification bubble should be only sent if some error has occurred. I thought it would be just a matter of getting used to it, but after a long time that didn't happen: I just *had* to open Gwibber after posting something in order to make sure it was there and have peace of mind. Can someone shed a light on the *exact* reasoning behind the *total* absence of feedback? I'd suggest sending a notification bubble if the broadcasting was successful as well. That said, however, he Me Menu is already very convenient now, thanks to polishing such as automatically focusing the text bar, allowing me to just click on the indicator and start typing. With a little more polish, it can be quite awesome in this age of constant microblogging. We can (and should) provide a spinny in the indicator icon itself during the transmit phase, and use a green or red flash (like the one you get during ajaxy updates in Launchpad) to indicate success or failure. That would be great. Still i miss the custom status for IM alongside the MeMenu's presence settings.. where is it? Available, Away, Busy, even Invisible are there, but no custom text status.. i like the idea of easy access to microblogging whether i have my clothes on when i come out of the shower or not, but i'd prefer to put the blogging use case where blogging is handled, and not so ambiguously close to IM presence settings. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
Hi. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:08, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: We can (and should) provide a spinny in the indicator icon itself during the transmit phase, and use a green or red flash (like the one you get during ajaxy updates in Launchpad) to indicate success or failure. I really like the idea of having some sort of notification on a successful broadcast from the memenu. However, I think that too much color could be a problem. Thus, I propose the following: - After the user stops writing the message, a spinner fades in at the right end of the textbox. - If the message is successfully sent, the spinner fades out, a check fades in, and after a while, the check fades out. - If the message fails to be sent, then a red cross fades in in place of the spinner, and doesn't fade out until the message is sent. - If it fails at first, but then works, the red x fades out, and the check fades in. I think that this system would provide a minimalistic notification of the broadcast, fitting in with the minimalistic style of the panel. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
Is twitter, facebook etc not the same as a chat room or im'ing? Do their website interfaces not appear similar to a chat box? Why are they being treated different then chatting with someone? Sure status is global, but shouldn't twitter etc. just appear as contacts in your list? This way you don't have any of the problems listed here, plus you have a history of what you've said as well as others, just like when you use the website, or a chat box. http://haacked.com/archive/2007/06/02/twitter-solves-the-chat-usability-problem.aspx If you look at these services in this light, the only difference between them and a chat box is the nice backgrounds(? :D). Personally I'm much more curious about how the chat box could look similar to facebook etc. Because thats the best part about the services,..reading what other people have to say. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
had to throw this out there before it slipped my mind, but one of the disadvantages to the design I proposed was that it takes a few to many clicks to tweet. Which is of course quite a problem considering the target audience and the typical urgency of the situation. However one of the beauties of having the contact list in the corner is it allows you to take advantage of the screen edge. Taking into consideration that an auto opened large contact list would be a problem, and that the cursor typically moves inward as you go down a list, one could simply trace from the corner down the edge of the screen to open the contacts (list). Further, having the the contact list sorted by favorites would make the Tweet contact not far off from the top as well as a swift one click open. Followed by a omg I just tried the bannana burger on In-n-outs secret menu!, it was amzing!!1! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it
Hi all, I am aware that several improvements will be made to the Me Menu for Maverick in order to complete what the specification requires. After some time actually using the Me Menu in Lucid, though, one thing is bothering me with respect to the specification itself: the lack of any kind of feedback in case the broadcasting went well. The specification states that notification bubble should be only sent if some error has occurred. I thought it would be just a matter of getting used to it, but after a long time that didn't happen: I just *had* to open Gwibber after posting something in order to make sure it was there and have peace of mind. Can someone shed a light on the *exact* reasoning behind the *total* absence of feedback? I'd suggest sending a notification bubble if the broadcasting was successful as well. That said, however, he Me Menu is already very convenient now, thanks to polishing such as automatically focusing the text bar, allowing me to just click on the indicator and start typing. With a little more polish, it can be quite awesome in this age of constant microblogging. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
