[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Rosa in San Juan Bautista CA
Hi Maryanne On this note you have written that I have a Joseph da Rosa born oct 23 1877. I have over 6000 names on my data base with none born oct 23 1877. I have used the data base from the Azores which you mentioned extensively. I also belong to a online group which deals mainly with the Azores. The group address is _azo...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com) . You can ask them to be included and that's all it takes. Send me your phone number so I can talk to you Al Sequeira In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, maryanne_r...@msn.com writes: Hello, Old immigrant communities. San Juan Bautista? My name is Mary Anne Rose and I have been doing genealogical research on my da Rosa family since perhaps 2003, my cousin David Wilson (b. 1940) got involved when he was in sixth grade and interviewed my grandfather about his family, cousins, etc which is hugely helpful. David's mother visited the Azores long before we did in 2005, finding our great grandparents marriage certificate in the Archives in Horal, Faial. But I am more creative at internet research than he. . . so I was able to build upon their research in different ways. And thus I am contacting you. You have a Joseph da Roza born 23 Oct 1877 San Juan Bautista, San Benito, CA Bottom line, our grandfather Anthony Lawrence Rose (christened Hollister CA in April 15, 1883) was of Azorean descent. His godmother was Hyacintha Serpa, according to the priest, which my research leads to connections to your family. i.e. Jacinta jessy de Serpa. My grandfather's sister Minnie married Joseph Elmer Serpa (November 1874 - 1938), they had a son Elmer - who was my dad's first cousin and I remember visiting cousin Elmer and his sons in Willow Glen area of san jose, CA. Minnie and Joe Serpa are buried in St. Mary's Cemetery in Gilroy. My great grandmother Rosa Gomes da Conceicao born in Cedros, Faial, lived with them after her husband died in 1913 and she died about 1934. Her brother was Joseph Gomes who married Rosa da Conceicao (Garcia da Rosa) and they lived with their large family near Hollister. You have them listed in the tree notes somewhere as well. In any case, it was a very small Azorean community in San Juan bautista and Hollister in San Juan Bautista. I have not been able to make a connection with the other da Rosa family from the area, but if they came at the same time as my great grandfather Manuel Francisco da Rosa, I am sure they must be cousins, etc. My aunt told me he left Faial about 1864 on a whaling ship and returned to Faial in 1975 to marry his sweetheart in the village. I believe they came from Cascalho, Cedros in Faial. My research at the Archives in Horta bore out much of the family history. On line there is much more available, though I believe there to be transcription errors in this: If the link does not work you can connect to the site through azores genweb, which is where I found this. Took my family back 24 generations. _http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en_ (http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en) So I will not write more until I find that you are still interested in this research, or that this email still is valid. I live in Manhattan in New York, so I am on the East Coast. My California research has involved my visits home. And then to Faial. Sincerely, Mary Anne Rose **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Rosa in San Juan Bautista CA
Hi Al, Thanks for posting Mary Anne's email. I found another cousin!! Take care... Cousin Patricia At 07:20 AM 1/17/2009, you wrote: Hi Maryanne On this note you have written that I have a Joseph da Rosa born oct 23 1877. I have over 6000 names on my data base with none born oct 23 1877. I have used the data base from the Azores which you mentioned extensively. I also belong to a online group which deals mainly with the Azores. The group address is mailto:Azores@googlegroups.comazo...@googlegroups.com. You can ask them to be included and that's all it takes. Send me your phone number so I can talk to you Al Sequeira In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, maryanne_r...@msn.com writes: Hello, Old immigrant communities. San Juan Bautista? My name is Mary Anne Rose and I have been doing genealogical research on my da Rosa family since perhaps 2003, my cousin David Wilson (b. 1940) got involved when he was in sixth grade and interviewed my grandfather about his family, cousins, etc which is hugely helpful. David's mother visited the Azores long before we did in 2005, finding our great grandparents marriage certificate in the Archives in Horal, Faial. But I am more creative at internet research than he. . . so I was able to build upon their research in different ways. And thus I am contacting you. You have a Joseph da Roza born 23 Oct 1877 San Juan Bautista, San Benito, CA Bottom line, our grandfather Anthony Lawrence Rose (christened Hollister CA in April 15, 1883) was of Azorean descent. His godmother was Hyacintha Serpa, according to the priest, which my research leads to connections to your family. i.e. Jacinta jessy de Serpa. My grandfather's sister Minnie married Joseph Elmer Serpa (November 1874 - 1938), they had a son Elmer - who was my dad's first cousin and I remember visiting cousin Elmer and his sons in Willow Glen area of san jose, CA. Minnie and Joe Serpa are buried in St. Mary's Cemetery in Gilroy. My great grandmother Rosa Gomes da Conceicao born in Cedros, Faial, lived with them after her husband died in 1913 and she died about 1934. Her brother was Joseph Gomes who married Rosa da Conceicao (Garcia da Rosa) and they lived with their large family near Hollister. You have them listed in the tree notes somewhere as well. In any case, it was a very small Azorean community in San Juan bautista and Hollister in San Juan Bautista. I have not been able to make a connection with the other da Rosa family from the area, but if they came at the same time as my great grandfather Manuel Francisco da Rosa, I am sure they must be cousins, etc. My aunt told me he left Faial about 1864 on a whaling ship and returned to Faial in 1975 to marry his sweetheart in the village. I believe they came from Cascalho, Cedros in Faial. My research at the Archives in Horta bore out much of the family history. On line there is much more available, though I believe there to be transcription errors in this: If the link does not work you can connect to the site through azores genweb, which is where I found this. Took my family back 24 generations. http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=enhttp://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en So I will not write more until I find that you are still interested in this research, or that this email still is valid. I live in Manhattan in New York, so I am on the East Coast. My California research has involved my visits home. And then to Faial. Sincerely, Mary Anne Rose -- A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62See yours in just 2 easy steps! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: filha d' outra
hello there, i have not heard this expression before, but if coul send me the link to the full document i can take a look . my best 2009/1/16 cakemom...@aol.com We had a friend whose name was Quiteria and she went by Katie here in the USA. There may not be a translation, but I am going to check with Katie's granddaughter and see if she knows. Mary Ann In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:58:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kmacard...@mac.com writes: Hi Mary I don't know if this is the definitive answer on Quiteria and what name it is in the U.S. but an ancestor of my husband's from Faial, was named Quiteria Felicia and went by the name of Gertrude here in the U.S. Hope that helps. Maybe there are others too? Kathy * Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html * On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Mary Bordi wrote: I've come across a woman who is referred to a filha d' outra which sounds to me like daughter of other. Anyone know what this might mean--like maybe her parents are unknown? In an 1839 birth record the baby was baptized at home by Maria Quiteria, solteira, filha d' outra. Then a week or so later this same woman had a baby of her own and she is identified the same way, with no parents indicated. From my research I am assuming that Quiteria is her middle name, not her last name, because so far I have only seen it used as a first or middle name. By the way, is there an English equivalent for Quiteria? The person I am asking about is not in my line but I do have at least one Quiteria who is. Thanks for any info. I feel so lucky to have the Norte Grande records available online at the http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos/ site, but I am spending entirely too much time looking through them! Mary -- Iolanda Bettencourt Ávila --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: filha d' outra
Whenever I have seen this phrase used, it always indicates another of the same name. That's what it looks like to me in this case also. Maria Natalia On Jan 17, 2:16 pm, yolanda yolandabettenco...@gmail.com wrote: hello there, i have not heard this expression before, but if coul send me the link to the full document i can take a look . my best 2009/1/16 cakemom...@aol.com We had a friend whose name was Quiteria and she went by Katie here in the USA. There may not be a translation, but I am going to check with Katie's granddaughter and see if she knows. Mary Ann In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:58:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kmacard...@mac.com writes: Hi Mary I don't know if this is the definitive answer on Quiteria and what name it is in the U.S. but an ancestor of my husband's from Faial, was named Quiteria Felicia and went by the name of Gertrude here in the U.S. Hope that helps. Maybe there are others too? Kathy * Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html * On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Mary Bordi wrote: I've come across a woman who is referred to a filha d' outra which sounds to me like daughter of other. Anyone know what this might mean--like maybe her parents are unknown? In an 1839 birth record the baby was baptized at home by Maria Quiteria, solteira, filha d' outra. Then a week or so later this same woman had a baby of her own and she is identified the same way, with no parents indicated. From my research I am assuming that Quiteria is her middle name, not her last name, because so far I have only seen it used as a first or middle name. By the way, is there an English equivalent for Quiteria? The person I am asking about is not in my line but I do have at least one Quiteria who is. Thanks for any info. I feel so lucky to have the Norte Grande records available online at thehttp://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos/ site, but I am spending entirely too much time looking through them! Mary -- Iolanda Bettencourt Ávila- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1800's Azores immigration and my Gregario/Gregorio relatives
Kathy, I've sent you some links through Ancestry.coms share links to the draft cards for Joseph and Manuel Fisher and for census from 1910 and 1920. A search of the Mass Archive Vital records shows a match on a marriage record for 1881. Last Name First Name Town Years Volume Page Type Gregorio John P. Boston 1881 327 215 Marriage Salvador Mary Boston 1881 327 215 Marriage Here is the link to find ordering information http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/VitalRecordsSearch.aspx Eric Edgar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Thanks for your help on Azores trip
I want to thank everyone for their input on our trip to Europe, specifically, the Azores. Have made all our hotel reservations. Don't know if I will do any research or not while there but it will be fun to see where my grandmother's family lived--I can't say came from as they came from Naples and mainland Portugal although their children were born in the Azores. Sometimes I am envious of those whose lines go back many years in the Azores and mine go back to about 1850. Find it interesting that to fly from Lisbon/Terceira/Ponta Delgada/Lisbon the total fare is $915 and to fly from London/Edinburgh/Dublin/London the total fare is $369! Have not made the Azores flight reservations yet but I am guessing they are not going to come down anytime soon. E --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname
Hello All, I have a relative who's name I wrote down as: Mary Pavo. I spelled it the way it sounded but now I am trying to find it in the records and am not sure if the spelling is correct. Can someone tell me if this is the correct spelling for that name? Thank you and any help is appreciated. Vivian (Silva) Christy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname
It's probably PAVAO. --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:18 PM Hello All, I have a relative who's name I wrote down as: Mary Pavo. I spelled it the way it sounded but now I am trying to find it in the records and am not sure if the spelling is correct. Can someone tell me if this is the correct spelling for that name? Thank you and any help is appreciated. Vivian (Silva) Christy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Request
Greetings: I Would Like To Be Included In Your Azores Group. Best Regards, Kenneth Correa ken.cor...@yahoo.c Sent from my iPhone --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname
Paiva maybe? --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:18 PM Hello All, I have a relative who's name I wrote down as: Mary Pavo. I spelled it the way it sounded but now I am trying to find it in the records and am not sure if the spelling is correct. Can someone tell me if this is the correct spelling for that name? Thank you and any help is appreciated. Vivian (Silva) Christy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
