[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First Names

2009-04-12 Thread sarabelm
Dear Char,
 No, it's not a typo error. I've seen the name (usually spelled Felizberto 
) and a feminine version ending in a instead of o.? I remember them in 
records from Faial? and Pico.
Arline Silveira in Grover Beach, CA



I received a letter from a Church today, and it gives the first name
of an ancestor's father as something that I have never heard before.
The name is Flizberto. Is this a typo error?

Anyone else heard or seen this name? It was Ramos as a last name.

Char



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azorean Passports

2009-04-12 Thread Robyn Horan

On 31/03/2009, Carolyn S. csc...@hotmail.com wrote:


  Thanks Cheri, I will head out to FHC tomorrow..


 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:34:53 -0700
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azorean Passports
 From: gfsche...@gmail.com
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com

 Yes, Carolyn, the Madeiran ones were filmed.

 They can be ordered through your local Family History Center (FHC).  It
 covers 7 rolls of film.  You'll want to order the film that covers your
 year(s) only.

 You'll have to copy and paste this link together:
 http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotescolumns=*%2C0%2C0titleno=38186disp=Documentos+civis+do+Distrito+de+Funchal++

 Or try the TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/ch687s

 There is a partial index, however it doesn't cover all the years, nor was it
 filmed.
 Cut and paste again:
 http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetailstitleno=1013157disp=%C3%8Dndices+dos+passaportes%20%20columns=*,0,0

 Or try the TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/dzrm2s

 For those who are grumbling about copy, cut and paste, here's some URLs to
 help you:
 http://www.aarp.org/money/consumer/articles/cutpaste.html
 http://www.aarp.org/money/consumer/articles/ib-lesson2.html


 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas,
 Achada



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First Names

2009-04-12 Thread Margaret Vicente
Yes, Char. It is a first name in pt and not too unusual.

Marg



On 4/12/09, Family History researchp...@gmail.com wrote:


 I received a letter from a Church today, and it gives the first name
 of an ancestor's father as something that I have never heard before.
 The name is Flizberto. Is this a typo error?

 Anyone else heard or seen this name? It was Ramos as a last name.

 Char
 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Names/Paleography etc.

2009-04-12 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Dear Fellow Listers

Seeing the questions on first/last names reminded me that the Portuguese 
Paleography booklet is online on Kathy Cardoza's Website: 

www.homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html

For those of you just starting out you need to download the Genealogical Word 
List and don't forget the Paleography! The Paleography booklet has much more 
than just handwriting samples; there are 4 or 5 examples of each letter of the 
alphabet and also documents to translate along with a very important list of 
GIVEN names and also SURNAMES of the Azores, Madeira and Portugal. If you are 
serious about learning to read the Portuguese records you need these two 
documents and also a good Portuguese/English Dictionary. I purchases mine 
several years ago at Furtado's Imports in San Jose California. I have two, 
Port/Eng and Eng/Port and they were $50 each at the time but well worth the 
cost. 

The Paleography booklet also gives some of the abbreviations that are used 
along with the most common Latin phrases used in the Church Records. 

Hope this helps out the newbies. 

Rosemarie 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family

2009-04-12 Thread jones guilherme neves filho
Looking for my ancestors:

Faial Island:
Jose Silveira de Souza married approximately in 1766 with Maria Clara.
Child had to name Ventura Silveira de Souza who came to Brazil.

Flores Island:
João Rodrigues Jachinto married approximately in 1850 with Catharina Maria
da Conceição.
Child had to name Jachinto Antonio da Silva who came to Brazil.

Grato

Jones Guilherme

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family

2009-04-12 Thread Cheri Mello
Jones,

There's a book with the marriages for all of Flores.  I don't have Flores
ancestry, but there are others on this list that do and own the book.
Someone might be able to do a look up for you.  Once you know the freguesia,
you can order the film and start researching your ancestry.

On Faial, you don't have the village do you?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] de or da

2009-04-12 Thread Marek Delacroix
I was wondering please, what is the difference between the de or da 
preceeding a surname...


  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: de or da

2009-04-12 Thread Cheri Mello
de means of.
da is a contraction for of the is is used with feminine words.
do is a contraction of of the and is used with masculine words.

These are literal translations, so it doesn't always make sense with
surnames.  They are just prefixes.

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Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family

2009-04-12 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Cheri

The Parish Registers for all of Flores and all of Corvo are online on the CCA 
Site:  http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig. 

Rosemarie 
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  Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:38 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family


  Jones,

  There's a book with the marriages for all of Flores.  I don't have Flores 
ancestry, but there are others on this list that do and own the book.  Someone 
might be able to do a look up for you.  Once you know the freguesia, you can 
order the film and start researching your ancestry.

  On Faial, you don't have the village do you?

  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada

  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vila Franca do Campo visit

2009-04-12 Thread mnk

Marcia,
What surname are you searching?  My father was from Vila Franca, and I
still have relatives there.  There is a park next to S. Miguel church,
maybe you'll find some old folks there!
Maria Natalia

On Apr 11, 6:25 am, Marcia marciaran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks very much, Cheri.

 On Apr 10, 6:46 am, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:



  Marcia,

  If this woman was born pre-1892, you would have to go to the archive in
  Ponta Delgada and search the baptisms for Vila Franca - Sao Miguel Arcanjo,
  requesting the years 1882-1892.  You will have to hunt for her looking at
  every baby born with her first name, checking to see if the parents are the
  right ones.  However, a few of the books do have an index in the back, so
  I'd look back there first to see if an index exists.  I'd continue back in
  time, collecting all the siblings until I go for a few years with no
  children.  If the records state that all the babies were legitimate, I'd go
  to the marriage book and start look for the parents marriage, beginning with
  the day before the first born's birth.  The marriages will be easier to
  search, as they will list the bride and groom in the margin or at the top
  (for that time period).   I think SMA was filmed to about 1883, so I'd trace
  the records back to at least then.  That way, when you get home, you can
  order the film and continue searching back in time.

  I'd go to the praca (town square) and find an old timer and ask him if he
  recognizes the photo.  He may have you ask someone else.  I've had people
  able to identify my relatives that way.  Also, at the festa there will be
  many people to ask too, so that would be a good idea.

  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas,
  Achada- Hide quoted text -

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