[AZORES-Genealogy] Lagoa, Sao Miguel
Dear Listers A Summary of obitos (Deaths) for Lagoa, Sao Miguel came online this morning at the CCA site: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig Rosemarie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriages in FLORES
Could someone try to find a marriage in Flores approx. 1852--1862 of Jose Francisco and Amelia Brio? I would be grateful...Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Marlene. I goofed and deleted your message I am looking for Rita Garcia (sometimes spelled Gracia) Parents Antonio Garcia and Maria Francisca Dutra or Souza. the Portuguese records that I have show her born 14 Aug 1850 and died, no date. The 1880 census show her living in California age 30 born in Portugal. Father arrived in Ca. 1850 no more children born until 1861. Have no record of Mothers arrival. I wonder if she waited 10 years before she came to U S. Thanks for any help Betty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death records
Hi Shirley and thanksI am looking for Rita Garcia born 14 Aug 1850, Parents are Antonio Jose Garcia and Maria Francisca Dutra or Souza. I have info that she died at Sao Roque but she is listed in the 1880 census as 30 years old born in Portugal. this couldn't be two different people COULD IT thanks again Betty Shirley Allegre shir...@psln.com wrote: Betty: I have the films for Sao Rogue, Pico. Who are you looking for? I need his name, birth, where, and PARENTS. I will look for something for you. I have 4 puppies right now, so I won't be able to do this for 3-4 weeks. Shirley - Original Message - From: bettyvy...@charter.net To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] death records How can I get a death record from San Roque, Pico for 1849-50? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death records
Thanks Cheri, I have received several suggestions .I should find Aunt Reet in some of these documents. Betty Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Betty, Order the record from your FHC (Family History Center). It's film # 1330510, on Item 1. Make sure you use the Portuguese spelling of Sao Roque though. Some Pico records are online though the University of Minho web site, I think. I don't research Pico, but the people who do will let you know if they are online. They are not on the CCA web site yet. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: RAPOSOS , MACHADOS and LEITES f rom Vila de Nordeste, São Miguel
Hi Lionel, Although Niteroi is so near to Rio I kind of discovered it now, looking for (and finding) long lost cousins. You see, we cariocas always considered Niteroi's best feature THE WONDERFUL VIEW FROM RIO.. (lol) But since I got in touch with my cousins I've been there several times and it is a really nice place - looks as though we're very far from Rio, so different things look there... What's your relation with Doug da Rocha Holmes? Hope we stay in touch abraços Luciana On May 25, 5:43 pm, LIONEL J HOLMES portu-...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This doesn't answer your query, but I couldn't help responding because of the reference to Niteroi, where I lived in 1952. Wonderful place!. Lionel Rocha Holmes --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Lufox lrap...@ism.com.br wrote: From: Lufox lrap...@ism.com.br Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RAPOSOS , MACHADOS and LEITES from Vila de Nordeste, São Miguel To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 10:35 PM I'm new at this list and I tried to read all the messages posted in the past but there are too many!I Does anyonw knows how to get help to find Christening and Marriage data at the Azores? My great-grandfather, MANUEL RAPOSO DOS SANTOS, came to Brazil (haven't found any reference of how and when, yet) and married my brazilian great-grandmohter in Niterói - a town near Rio de Janeiro, where I live. He was from VILA DE NORDESTE, NORDESTE, ILHA DE SÃO MIGUEL. His parents were ANTÓNIO RAPOSO DOS SANTOS and BARBARA LEITE MACHADO DOS SANTOS and he was born around 1840, 1841 - according to his death certificate he died when he was 56, on May, 25th.1897. I know the records of Christenings from that period must already be at Ponta Delgada, for its over 100 years anda I wrote the chief of the Public Library and she said they would help but never wrote back. 1- Do you people, since you have much more experience, think I should keep on insisting? 2- Do any of you know of someone in Azores who may be interested in exchanging information? I presently have all of my family on records and I am willing to help searching records on Librarys and other places here in Rio de Janeiro. 3- Is there another way to reserach (I already ordered the LDS mfs from Nordeste, Azores) without visiting Azores? I plan to go someday but right now is impossible.,. If any of you need help translating documents from Portuguese to English I am at you disposal. Thank you so much for you help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: RAPOSOS , MACHADOS and LEITES f rom Vila de Nordeste, São Miguel
Hi Cheri, Thank you so much for you help. I've already ordered the LDS mfs for the Azores but they're taking an awfully long time to arrive...sometimes almost an year!!! The only reason I asked about insisting on the local research was because the chief of Biblioteca Publica - to whom I wrote some time ago (through an Azores Genealogy web site - don't remember which one) said she would foward my request for a trained technician in the Archives (sic)and that she thought would be very easy to find the records. Do you understand portuguese? See what she wrote: Exma. Senhora Vou reencaminhar esta mensagem para os serviços administrativos da BPARPD e para o Sr. Director. Naturalmente vai ser despachada para o Arquivo, onde será tratada por um técnico superior. Parece-me que conseguirá sem grande dificuldade as informações que pretende pois indica o nome, a freguesia e a data. É natural que lhe perguntem se quer uma fotocópia do registo e deverá ter de pagar algo por isso. I apologize for my curiosity but why would insisting make it worse for of everybody? I'll keep you posted with my findings. abraços Luciana Raposo On May 25, 2:39 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: HI Lufox, Since you have the 3 vital pieces: the name of Manuel Raposo dos Santos, that he was from Nordeste, born to Antonio Raposo dos Santos and Barbara Leite Machado in 1840-41, you need to search the film ( # 1438017 ) for every Manuel born to Antonio and Barbara until you find him. Your questions: 1) Yes, the archives do hold the records from the 1840s, but they don't search for you. They may look for a range, but I wouldn't insist. It may make it worse for the rest of us. 2) Most of us on this list are west of the Azores (somewhere in North America), although we have other members. Some are in the Azores, New Zealand, and I forget where else I've seen people say where they live. 3) The only way to research for Nordeste at this time is to go to the archives in Ponta Delgada or order the microfilm. Someday, the Center for Knowledge of the Azores (CCA) will put the records online. However, they don't publish I time line for putting the records online or in what order, so we don't when. Sao Jorge island is almost complete. That island took about 2 years to put online, I believe. Hope this helps! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: RAPOSOS , MACHADOS and LEITES f rom Vila de Nordeste, São Miguel
Luciana, Did you send money? I don't think they will look without payment, name, date, and freguesia. Sometime institutions will become tired of genealogists and refuse to help any of them. Whether that is in your location, mine, or the Azores. I wouldn't be insistent, as you said, but if you did not include any money, then include it as ask if they are now able to fulfill your request. I don't know where you live or why your FHC films take a year. You need to ask the director at your FHC why it takes so long. I haven't ordered film in a while, but I think it took about 4-6 weeks for a film to come from Utah to CA, where I live. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviations - how far do we go?
I know certified genealogists abbreviate nothing. They leave no question as to what they are talking about. In my genealogy program, I don't abbreviate the freguesia, church, island or Azores. I do abbreviate in somewhat in emails. I was abbreviating county (as in Los Angeles Co) and I was abbreviating California as CA but CA is also Canada, isn't it? I was thinking of changing to California, but CA is in the state field and Canada (I spell out the countries) is in the country field. Which *seems* clear until you do an export/import. I see strange things in the fields when I import people's Gedcoms. I was wondering how far people abbreviate? If anyone found my work, they'd know most of what I had in my program because of the limited abbreviations, but I was thinking of dropping all of them. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriages in FLORES
Marek, Does this research relate to the Joseph Francis Brio , Nov 20, 1832 to Jul 3, 1901 Born at Flores, Azores Island who is buried at St. Joseph's Catholic Cemetery in Yreka , CA? I have not found a marriage entry for them in the Flores and Corvo marriage record book Eric Edgar On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Marek Delacroix marekdelacr...@yahoo.com wrote: Could someone try to find a marriage in Flores approx. 1852--1862 of Jose Francisco and Amelia Brio? I would be grateful...Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Abbreviations - how far do we go?
Cheri, I tend to abbreviate county to co. but spell out the state and most every thing else because I'm often handing a report to someone with an interest in, but no experience in geneaolgy. If they want to pick up and go on with the research then it is clear which county to look for more records. My own notes are mostly abbreviations Eric E On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I know certified genealogists abbreviate nothing. They leave no question as to what they are talking about. In my genealogy program, I don't abbreviate the freguesia, church, island or Azores. I do abbreviate in somewhat in emails. I was abbreviating county (as in Los Angeles Co) and I was abbreviating California as CA but CA is also Canada, isn't it? I was thinking of changing to California, but CA is in the state field and Canada (I spell out the countries) is in the country field. Which *seems* clear until you do an export/import. I see strange things in the fields when I import people's Gedcoms. I was wondering how far people abbreviate? If anyone found my work, they'd know most of what I had in my program because of the limited abbreviations, but I was thinking of dropping all of them. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death records
Betty, From the NEPS site for Pico : http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=SRoquePicolang=ptm=NGn=antonio+jose+garciat=PN António José Garcia Nascido a 11 de Agosto de 1827 - São Roque do Pico Falecido Pais Francisco José Garcia 1798-1868 Ludovina Constância da Conceição 1800-1891 Casamentos e filhos Casado a 5 de Novembro de 1849 com Maria Francisca 1827, tiveram Rita ? 1850 Eric E On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:24 AM, bettyvy...@charter.net wrote: Hi Shirley and thanksI am looking for Rita Garcia born 14 Aug 1850, Parents are Antonio Jose Garcia and Maria Francisca Dutra or Souza. I have info that she died at Sao Roque but she is listed in the 1880 census as 30 years old born in Portugal. this couldn't be two different people COULD IT thanks again Betty Shirley Allegre shir...@psln.com wrote: Betty: I have the films for Sao Rogue, Pico. Who are you looking for? I need his name, birth, where, and PARENTS. I will look for something for you. I have 4 puppies right now, so I won't be able to do this for 3-4 weeks. Shirley - Original Message - From: bettyvy...@charter.net To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] death records How can I get a death record from San Roque, Pico for 1849-50? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
