[AZORES-Genealogy] voter registration local directories
Hi Bernie, You have a lot of information that can lead you to answers for your questions. I have a couple of ideas that may be of help to you. Since some of your ancestors were naturalized, you may be able to find the original voter registration forms that they filed when they registered to vote. Here is how it worked for me in Alameda County. I checked with the voter registration office (I was trying to learn the name of the pristinct in which they lived) and while I was there I was told that the original voter forms (all nicely bound and in alphabetical (by last name) order, were at Cal State Univ. in Hayward. I found that the person for whom I was searching was naturalized in San Francisco and born in Flores, Azores. What a find. The other idea is I attended a workshop in Santa Cruz sponsored by the Santa Cruz genealogy society. The members of that organization were very helpful and may be able to lead you to available sources to help you find your ancestors that lived in Santa Cruz County. Some states and counties did census counts inbetween the 10 year federal census. There is also the possibility that your ancestor may have be recorded in a city directory. If they lived in an outlying area, they were sometimes listed in the closest city. One example of this is that I found people who lived in Decoto (not Union city) in the Hayward City directory. You can usually find copies of these old directories in the library for the city you are searching. Sometimes, a larger nearby city has copies of some of the surrounding smaller cities. One exception I found is the copies were all at the mortuary that had advertised in the directory and they had been stored in the back of a closet. I was lucky to find that the person to whom I spoke knew about them and let me search all of them. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sources, the Internet, and Family Stories
Thanks, Gayle . Btw, also have a Mathias Jose Silveira I'm researching. He married Maria Adelaide and they sailed for New Bedford in 1898. I don't knowanything yet about his birthplace. It's along-shot, I know, but thought I'd ask. Thanks for yr reply. Maria Elena Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu wrote: Maria Elena, My grandfather's name was Joseph Silveira Machado. His first wife was Martha Girvin. They had only two children, one died as a child from a childhood disease. My father was the only child from the second marriage. It doesn't sound like there's a connection. Gayle P.S. The story I told earlier is a sad commentary on attitudes and behaviors. -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Maria Lima Sent: Sun 10/10/2010 8:18 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sources, the Internet, and Family Stories Gayle--, what was yr grandfather'sname and his Irish wife. I have a Machado (Clem) who married an irish girl, Annie Lindgrenn. Anne was widow. Then, She died. He remarried, a Portuguese Theodora Ferreira (her father's name, Manoel), and they had a large posterity. Just wondered if there was a connection Maria Elena Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu wrote: Just a comment on the way this conversation has steered. My grandfather anglized his surname from Machado to Marshall for his first marriage. His wife was Irish and (as the story has been told) her family thought of the Portuguse as the N-- of Europe. Unfortunately, the missing word there was the horrible N- word. After she passed away and he decided to remarry (this time an Azorean woman) he reverted back to Machado. I've always wondered if there was a prevailing anti-immigrant bias due to a poor economy (much like we seem to be experiencing recently) or if it was something that was taught at home. -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of yvonne domings Sent: Sun 10/10/2010 9:35 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sources, the Internet, and Family Stories Ally, My husband's father (whose parents immigrated from the Azores) told everyone that his family was not from the islands. My husband relates the story of when he was out at a bar with his father and he was telling another man that his family was from the mainland. The man flat out disagreed with him as if my f-i-l was lying. My husband remembers his father looking shocked to hear this, and he never heard him say that again, so I don't think he was lying. I think it was what he was told. I think that maybe his parents thought that the islands were considered somewhat backward. My friend from the Azores actually confirmed that there was a time when it was the prevailing opinion here. This is the part of the research that I find so fascinating. It provides me with a unique opportunity to get into the heads of people at a particular moment in their personal history and to think about how it relates to the situation both then and now. I can imagine how intense the pressure to fit in to the dominant culture was and even still is. As I look through the documentation, I see the transformation of my husband's family as their names become more Anglicized with each subsequent piece. First they changed their first names, then they named their children English names. Finally they dropped all indications of spelling differences from the surname. So, as you already know, your story is not so uncommon unfortunately. I say unfortunately, knowing that some people would disagree with me. I just find it intensely sad that people's native language and culture is not seen as an asset by the dominant culture. So, this is a good reminder that family stories may provide us all with starting points that need to be verified--which is also part of the fun. Yvonne On Oct 9, 9:29 am, netadosaco...@aol.com wrote: Katherine, My family name is Anselmo. I was raised Spanish. Got into an arguement with another college student who said I wouldn't admit that I was Mexican and really should join the Mexican Club at school. I insisted my grandparents were from Spain, and he insisted that I was lieing. So my girlfriend and I started the Spiniada Group, remember we were in college and that was the cheap wine. When I finally met my father's family, one of the cousins said something to the effect of being Portuguese. We all challenged are father's with what's going on. My Uncle Joe said Julius what the hell have you told your girls. My Father's answerwhen you are with the Italians you are Italian...when you are with the Spanish you are Spanishand when you are with family you are Portuguese.everyone laughed except
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] voter registration local directories
Hi Celeste, I will check some of these avenues out as soon as I get home from Mexico. Thanks again, Bernie From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 8:40 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] voter registration local directories Hi Bernie, You have a lot of information that can lead you to answers for your questions. I have a couple of ideas that may be of help to you. Since some of your ancestors were naturalized, you may be able to find the original voter registration forms that they filed when they registered to vote. Here is how it worked for me in Alameda County. I checked with the voter registration office (I was trying to learn the name of the pristinct in which they lived) and while I was there I was told that the original voter forms (all nicely bound and in alphabetical (by last name) order, were at Cal State Univ. in Hayward. I found that the person for whom I was searching was naturalized in San Francisco and born in Flores, Azores. What a find. The other idea is I attended a workshop in Santa Cruz sponsored by the Santa Cruz genealogy society. The members of that organization were very helpful and may be able to lead you to available sources to help you find your ancestors that lived in Santa Cruz County. Some states and counties did census counts inbetween the 10 year federal census. There is also the possibility that your ancestor may have be recorded in a city directory. If they lived in an outlying area, they were sometimes listed in the closest city. One example of this is that I found people who lived in Decoto (not Union city) in the Hayward City directory. You can usually find copies of these old directories in the library for the city you are searching. Sometimes, a larger nearby city has copies of some of the surrounding smaller cities. One exception I found is the copies were all at the mortuary that had advertised in the directory and they had been stored in the back of a closet. I was lucky to find that the person to whom I spoke knew about them and let me search all of them. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Bonito, Franusich
Repost for Bernie, bernieg at pacbell.net Hello Gayle, my father-in-law had cousins by the last name of Machado, they lived down the street from us, but I never got to know them. My father-in-law (Frank Joseph Franusich) never wanted to talk about any of his family. I don't know if he just didn't know or . My husband knows even less. I leave for Mexico in less than a week, when I return the first of Nov. I will pull out all of what I have and add some more info. I have tried for years to find out the exact name they had before coming to the USA. Thanks for any help you might have. Even though Louise Bonito/a Franusich was born some 25 miles away from us, we can't find much info. Bernie Franusich -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Stories
When did your ancestors go to Hawaii? What are their names? I can probably help you. Just ask Celeste. Her husband and I are related. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: netadosaco...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:41 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Stories Yvonne, In one of the books, or excerpt from the book, I read that during the early 1900 in Californiathe Portuguese from both the Madeira Islands and mainland Portugal had settled in the San Leandro area (East Bay of San Francisco). These Portuguese were educated and prosperous. When the Azoreans came, many who were not educated and took labor jobs, were looked down by the mainland Portuguese and were afraid that their status would be lowered by the newcomers. This was still the tone in the late 1980's when meeting other Portuguese. There was a comment made to me to the effect that... yes you are Portuguese but you were from the Azores while they were from the Madeira Islands. It was said in a tone that was more than pride of being from the Madeira Islands but that I should know my lower status. Patsy and I have great pride, love and respect in our family heritage and the struggles that our Grt. Grandparents made in leaving their families behind and coming to Hawaii then onto California to give us a better way of life. While I was not raised with Portuguese traditions it has been fun to research the traditions and incorporate them into our holidays. Something that I can teach my son. One of the traditions that I love is to never return a dish empty. Always return it with cookies or other baked item. Celest, I would love to meet you when I return home for a visit. You remind me of my God Mother, she always was putting food on the table, even before you sat down. Ally -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Passing of Anthony J. Azevedo, PSP
I don't have a correct answer to that ~ but have been trying to find a connection to a Jose Azevedo ~ could have lived anywhere thru Oakland, Mantect, French Camp, Hayward, anywhere thru that area. tracy From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 5:29 PM To: Azores list Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Passing of Anthony J. Azevedo, PSP Anyone related to Anthony? Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 10/11/10, Carla Cardoso carla.card...@mypfsa.org wrote: From: Carla Cardoso carla.card...@mypfsa.org Subject: Passing of Anthony J. Azevedo, PSP To: pamela_erick...@hotmail.com, jandadasi...@sbcglobal.net, alantun...@aol.com, almi...@aol.com, Angela G. Pereira angela.g.pere...@portugalglobal.pt, b...@sbcglobal.net, ber...@comcast.net, bgb...@hotmail.com, cardo...@msn.com, Carol Lerno carols...@gmail.com, chevymanw...@msn.com, csilva...@comcast.net, por2gezpr...@aol.com, dj...@norcale.com, David Vallance king_tur...@sbcglobal.net, Denee Perez naezsmi...@sbcglobal.net, telopes_air...@yahoo.com, oreonu...@comcast.net, eoliveir...@yahoo.com, Elizabeth Ward elizabeth_war...@hotmail.com, henrietta.silve...@mypfsa.org, Jackie Ferreira jackie6...@aol.com, j_jlo...@sbcglobal.net, Jennifer Medeiros soccerc...@aol.com, Joe Dias joe.di...@sci-us.com, ted1...@aol.com, Karen Work k.work...@gmail.com, Katie Woods bballcu...@hotmail.com, Luis freitas bayvalleyl...@hotmail.com, oldjo4...@att.net, beta...@yahoo.com, marbean...@aol.com, m.marti...@sbcglobal.net, Maria Barreiro mjuli...@comcast.net, Maria Estacio ria...@hotmail.com, hazeleyes...@aol.com, Martin Christine Louro icoachh...@sbcglobal.net, m...@stmarys-ca.edu, maryvie...@aol.com, kathlegeorge7...@sbc.com, moisesloure...@aol.com, rc...@citrusheights.net, sdtraveling...@aol.com, sjl1...@softcom.net, Tony A. Alameda (Business Fax) imceafax-tony+20a+2e+20alameda+40+2b1+20+28831+29+20628-2...@mypfsa.org, tfel...@sbcglobal.net, yayaad...@aol.com, Zach Batista zman000...@yahoo.com, hermb...@pacbell.net, er...@att.net, PFSA 120 Manuel Pinheiro mannyk...@sbcglobal.net, PFSA 13 Mary G. Medeiros mgmedei...@att.net, PFSA 3 James Beagle jimbea...@suddenlink.net, PFSA 35 Geraldine Tognetti getda...@aol.com, PFSA 40 Luis A. Pacheco alegrepach...@yahoo.com, PFSA 5 Jack Perry jpperr...@clearwire.net, PFSA 6 Paul Silva paulsilva...@comcast.net, PFSA 60 Audrey M. Burman audrey90...@att.net, PFSA 9 Mary A. Nunes sou...@earthlink.net, Eugenia DaSilva eugenia.dasi...@mypfsa.org, TPFSA 128 Helen Rolls dolc...@aol.com, TPFSA 13 Deolinda Faria deofaria2...@aol.com, TPFSA 148 Deolinda Pedreiro pedre...@sbcglobal.net, TPFSA 16 Paula Silva paulasilva1...@yahoo.com, lsy...@comcast.net, TPFSA 19 Angela Ericson greenparadis...@aol.com, TPFSA 20 Lillian Apolinario app...@elite.net, evolaure...@aol.com, TPFSA 40 Monica Pacheco monjoh...@me.com, TPFSA 5 Joseph Flynn joeandjac...@comcast.net, TPFSA 6 Louise Courpet terse...@aol.com, TPFSA 66 Nancy Cunha nancycu...@att.net, TPFSA 71 Christopher Almeida kris11...@sbcglobal.net, renee...@att.com, TPFSA 9 Margarida da Silva santamarens...@yahoo.com, TPFSA 97 Monique Vallance monik...@yahoo.com, cldm...@aol.com, MariaRon Graham ronvgra...@comcast.net, shar...@scfinsurance.com, PFSA 03 Linda Mateus lmateus2...@yahoo.com, PFSA 04 Michael Fraga mfraga1...@aol.com, vilma...@sbcglobal.net, opinheir...@gmail.com, PFSA 09 Maria Ramos maera...@aol.com, PFSA 10 Gloria Mendes agmen...@sbcglobal.net, PFSA 101 Maria Sena ms...@wcwd.org, faria...@aol.com, lydiawe...@aol.com, rcla...@aol.com, PFSA 108 Maria Gomes mgo...@maderaauto.com, PFSA 110 Marie Friztler marfrit...@aol.com, PFSA 113 Edwina Leonardo edwina_leona...@fws.gov, donc...@comcast.net, PFSA 118 Antoinette Duarte tadua...@aol.com, ter...@pacbell.net, snsc...@yahoo.com, mcn...@sbcglobal.net, shirley...@yahoo.com, darkro...@sbcglobal.net, grace.nu...@washingtonunian.net, ms...@juno.com, PFSA 142 Shirley Baptista surely...@dialup4less.com, terramarie...@yahoo.com, PFSA 144 Al Furtado almi...@expediteprecision.com, addie...@yahoo.com, emfeb...@yahoo.com, sha...@reevesmgt.com, horta...@hotmail.com, mpalm...@comcast.net, stylingmom...@yahoo.com, ndesous...@earthlink.net, PFSA 21 Linda Silva moocrzyli...@hotmail.com, carolcatwill...@aol.com, PFSA 26 Richard Castro richi...@comcast.net, patteher...@sbcglobal.net, shirley.pach...@earthlink.net, mae2d...@sbcglobal.net, PFSA 42 Dolores Nunes oreonu...@aol.com, PFSA 43 Elvera George elverabgeo...@aol.com, busyli...@sbcglobal.net, branco...@live.com, fletchervirgi...@att.net, PFSA 52 Fran Carvalho j4...@netscape.net, mgifford...@cs.com, jsoui...@astound.net, shasha...@verizon.net, lmb52...@aol.com, d...@charamuga.com, PFSA 81 Moreen Jones jonese...@yahoo.com, evang...@hughes.net, gor...@rusticturtle.com, darosaho...@yahoo.com, fsu2...@aol.com, jcbarrei...@yahoo.com, Adriane Sousa adrianeasce...@yahoo.com, Alice Silva alice-si...@wtmg.com, Barbara
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Our youngest member.
Oh..what a beauty! Obviously Azorean! From: celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com To: Azores list azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 12:45:18 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Our youngest member. I could not resist sending this to the list. A few of us attended the Ancestry genealogy conference last Thurs. Friday. We wore scarfs to identify ourselves. Eric's mom wore one and Eric took this picture of his daughter wearing it. Celeste Perry, Hayward, CA. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Eric Gomes dahnt...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Eric Gomes dahnt...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Our youngest member. To: ccgran...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 11:32 AM -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
