Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente- Sao Miguel
Thank you for your help Rosemarie. I appreciate you taking time to look it up. Take care, Sherry In a message dated 5/6/2012 5:51:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcap...@redshift.com writes: Sherry, No luck. No Francisco Pereira on Maui nor the other Islands. There are other Pereira's but no Francisco. Rosemarie They were on Maui. Thanks so much Rosemarie! Sherry In a message dated 5/6/2012 4:48:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcap...@redshift.com writes: Sherry, I'm home now, if you could give me an Island that they were on in HI I would be happy to look them up. Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names
Hi Maria, Good to talk to you again. I still cant find the Muniz men arrival in Australia. I did find the Correiro name on the Water Lily list but dont know if any of them are our Muniz men there is quite a few of them and i dont know how to work out if one is mine. Manuel Carreiro Muniz did change his name from Muniz to Monish when he was came to Australia, we have his details from Creswick, Victoria. So there's a good chance that he knew your relies. Francisco Joaquim Muniz kept this name the same untill his death in Australia. Thankyou for your help, i havent got any further with my reasearch since i last spoke to you. Only last week i made contact with a gg grandson of Manuel and we are swapping details. It was a great delight to at last find a relation from the Muniz / Monish family. Best Wishes Chris From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Hi Chris: For arrival date did you check the Public Records Office Victoria, Unassisted Passengers in 1853, specifically the ship the WATER LILY October. That ship had mostly all people from the Azores going to the Im not sure- maybe it was 1852 but play around with those names and enter the name of the ship. I found our ancestors by entering de Lima. I think I've seen the correio name there. It appears the goldrush fever spread to our ancestors in the Azores. It must have cost them a fortune to get there, travel fm Melbourne and to Creswick area. That is where I first found the 2 Lima brothers - in the Creswick and Clunes Register and Advertiser. By the way, my 2 Lima brothers were born about same time as yours- 1836 and 1838. These guys had to know each other don't you think? Good luck. . Maria Elena On May 5, 2012, at 8:09 AM, chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks so much for your information, it helps me so much, now i know what ive got to do and what films i need to look at, im very gratefull for youre help Best Wishes Chris From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:52 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Hi Chris, I am not sure how things work there at the LDS but here in the states we order the films on line and pay for them on line. The film is then sent from Salt Lake City to the local LDS Family History Center. I would give them a call first to find out how it works there and save a long trip for nothing. I have looked up the two films I would start with from the LDS Site. https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotescolumns=*%2C0%2C0titleno=384805disp=Registros+paroquiais++ You can go here to see the other films for Sao Roque. The information below is what you will need to order the films. Title Registros paroquiais, 1556-1883 Authors Igreja Católica. São Roque (Rosto de Cão, Ponta Delgada)(Main Author) Batismos 1804-1876 FHL INTL Film 1330794 Casamentos 1622-1869 FHL INTL Film 1330795 Items 5-8 Your Brother in Christ, Rick SK Rick Pimentel Council 10872 – Chancellor Assembly 2683 - Member Spring, Texas 832-813-8111 From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris murray Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:24 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Thankyou Rick, It is hard because in Australia we do not have access to some records we need. There is a LDS a couple of hours away, so it will be worth the trip to see the films. what should i ask for to be ordered? Best Wishes Chris From:Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:36 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Looking at the full names my impression is that they are not related. They may be distant cousins. I would consider immigration patterns. Many times a person would emigrate and in his he would write home and tell his friends or relatives and they would immigrate to the same location. In your case there are two families from Sao Roque. For you and I am assuming you live in Australia it is difficult as I do not know what resources are available and If the LDS has any Family History Centers nearby. If there is one then you could order the films with the church records in the Azores to search. The only other option is to wait until the films are put on line at the CCA website. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From:azores@googlegroups.com
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente- Sao Miguel
I spotted this at Amazon.com. I don't know if this is helpful. http://www.amazon.com/Portuguese-Hawaiian-memories-J-F-Freitas/dp/B0006F1NVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1336396334sr=8-1 Pat McCoy == On 5/6/12, carab...@aol.com carab...@aol.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I asked my friend about the Portuguese Hawaiian Memories she said she had never heard of the book. I don't know anyone with that book. Do you have it or know of someone who does? Thanks so much for your help. Sherry In a message dated 3/30/2012 11:50:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcap...@redshift.com writes: Sherry, I am not at home right now so can't check but have they looked in the book Portuguese Hawaiian Memories by Freitas?? If they have a bio in there it might give you the village along with the Island name. Rosemarie They lived on Maui. Francisco died in Lahaina, Maui on 18 July 1938. Sherry -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] great grandpa help
I would like to ask for some help with finding my great grandfather. We believe his name was Jose(Joseph) Pinheiro(Pine) based on what my grandma who's still living tells me. He was married to my great grandma Maria Pereira(Perry) we believe between 1916/1918 based on when my grandpa William Francis Pine was born on 2/16/1918. Joe Pine died before 1920 because he is not listed on the census of 1920 when my great grandma moved back home to new bedford to her mom and dads home. My grandma believes Joe Pine was aprox 23 when he died and she believes it was in California, We believe that Maria and Jose got married in California because my grandma said she followed Joe Pine out there. Anything the group can help with would greatly appreciate, if more information is needed so you can help I can try and find it for you. Thanks Ahead, Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Cunha Pacheco in Providence, RI
Cheri, I didn't know you could request copies of the death certificate, can you please explain where and how to do soMike On Friday, May 4, 2012 10:41:08 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Laura S, For a recent (probably from the 19-teens onwards), I'd run them through the Social Security Death Index on Ancestry to get their death dates and locations. Then you can order their death certificates and get the info on where they are buried. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Friday, May 4, 2012 10:41:08 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Laura S, For a recent (probably from the 19-teens onwards), I'd run them through the Social Security Death Index on Ancestry to get their death dates and locations. Then you can order their death certificates and get the info on where they are buried. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente- Sao Miguel
Thank you. I will pass it on to my friend. Sherry In a message dated 5/7/2012 7:19:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pat.mccoy1...@gmail.com writes: I spotted this at Amazon.com. I don't know if this is helpful. http://www.amazon.com/Portuguese-Hawaiian-memories-J-F-Freitas/dp/B0006F1NVO /ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1336396334sr=8-1 Pat McCoy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] great grandpa help
Mike, There is a Joe C. Pine WWI Draft Registration Record (1917) living in Alameda County CA. He was born April 14, 1892 in Fayal, Azores. He had a wife named Rose. There is a 1951 Naturalization Card for this Joseph Correia Pine in Newark CA. Here it says he was born April 14, 1892. There is a Joseph Pine b. April 23, 1894 living in South Dartmouth in 1917 also b. in Fayal. It says he has a thoat affliction and he was working at the Gosnold Mills. It says he is married. There's a Joseph Pine b. Sept. 15, 1892 in Sao Miguel, Azores, living in New Bedford in 1917 but his one says he is single. There are several Jose Pinheiro Draft Registration Records living in CA/MA. Then there is this ship's listName: Jose S Pinheiro Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Birthplace: Salao?, Fayal Azores Gender: Male Ethnic Background: Portuguese Arrival Date: 12 Sep 1912 Port of Arrival: Providence, Rhode Island Port of Departure: Horta, Fayal, Azores, Portugal Ship Name: Roma Leaving his father Manuel Furtado da Rosa, Salao, Fayal, Azores- going to his brother in law Luiz Lopes, Providence RI Do you know if he had a middle name? How sure are you that he died? Maybe she just left him and returned home? I just helped a girl with her ancestor and a few months ago she found out he had a 2nd family back East before he married her ggrandmother. She said he never spoke of this first wife and children. You can imagine she was elated to find her new found family. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente- Sao Miguel
You're welcome. On 5/7/12, carab...@aol.com carab...@aol.com wrote: Thank you. I will pass it on to my friend. Sherry In a message dated 5/7/2012 7:19:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pat.mccoy1...@gmail.com writes: I spotted this at Amazon.com. I don't know if this is helpful. http://www.amazon.com/Portuguese-Hawaiian-memories-J-F-Freitas/dp/B0006F1NVO /ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1336396334sr=8-1 Pat McCoy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names
Dear Chris - it's good to see you are making a connection with a descendant. I'd love to hear what he knows about our ancestors that left the Azores for the Goldfields. How did u find him? I'm not surprised the name was changed- my husband's maternal grandfather is domingos moniz Machado. Some of his relatives changed the Machado to Marshall but he kept his mothers name(Moniz) and Machado. Maria Elena On May 7, 2012, at 12:03 AM, chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi Maria, Good to talk to you again. I still cant find the Muniz men arrival in Australia. I did find the Correiro name on the Water Lily list but dont know if any of them are our Muniz men there is quite a few of them and i dont know how to work out if one is mine. Manuel Carreiro Muniz did change his name from Muniz to Monish when he was came to Australia, we have his details from Creswick, Victoria. So there's a good chance that he knew your relies. Francisco Joaquim Muniz kept this name the same untill his death in Australia. Thankyou for your help, i havent got any further with my reasearch since i last spoke to you. Only last week i made contact with a gg grandson of Manuel and we are swapping details. It was a great delight to at last find a relation from the Muniz / Monish family. Best Wishes Chris From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Hi Chris: For arrival date did you check the Public Records Office Victoria, Unassisted Passengers in 1853, specifically the ship the WATER LILY October. That ship had mostly all people from the Azores going to the Im not sure- maybe it was 1852 but play around with those names and enter the name of the ship. I found our ancestors by entering de Lima. I think I've seen the correio name there. It appears the goldrush fever spread to our ancestors in the Azores. It must have cost them a fortune to get there, travel fm Melbourne and to Creswick area. That is where I first found the 2 Lima brothers - in the Creswick and Clunes Register and Advertiser. By the way, my 2 Lima brothers were born about same time as yours- 1836 and 1838. These guys had to know each other don't you think? Good luck. .Maria Elena On May 5, 2012, at 8:09 AM, chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks so much for your information, it helps me so much, now i know what ive got to do and what films i need to look at, im very gratefull for youre help Best Wishes Chris From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:52 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Hi Chris, I am not sure how things work there at the LDS but here in the states we order the films on line and pay for them on line. The film is then sent from Salt Lake City to the local LDS Family History Center. I would give them a call first to find out how it works there and save a long trip for nothing. I have looked up the two films I would start with from the LDS Site. https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotescolumns=*%2C0%2C0titleno=384805disp=Registros+paroquiais++ You can go here to see the other films for Sao Roque. The information below is what you will need to order the films. Title Registros paroquiais, 1556-1883 Authors Igreja Católica. São Roque (Rosto de Cão, Ponta Delgada) (Main Author) Batismos 1804-1876 FHL INTL Film 1330794 Casamentos 1622-1869 FHL INTL Film 1330795 Items 5-8 Your Brother in Christ, Rick SK Rick Pimentel Council 10872 – Chancellor Assembly 2683 - Member Spring, Texas 832-813-8111 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris murray Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:24 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Thankyou Rick, It is hard because in Australia we do not have access to some records we need. There is a LDS a couple of hours away, so it will be worth the trip to see the films. what should i ask for to be ordered? Best Wishes Chris From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:36 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Topic. Differance in first names Looking at the full names my impression is that they are not related. They may be distant cousins. I would consider immigration patterns. Many times a person would emigrate and in his he would write home and tell his friends or relatives and they would immigrate to the same location. In your case there are two families from Sao
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] great grandpa help
Dear Mike, I went into find a grave and found a Manuel Joseph Pine b 1893, d 1914. His find a grave number is 88554320. This is at the Holy Ghost Cemetery, Fremont, Alameda County, California. Plot: Row 18. It says it shares the stone with Frank. I went to the Frank Pine in the same cemetery, but I could not find which Frank it was. the Frank Pine listed had others in that area but not the same plot. I found others, Pine, Joe and Joseph, but none had died before 1920. This might be a lead for you. Robin L On May 7, 2012, at 8:55, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask for some help with finding my great grandfather. We believe his name was Jose(Joseph) Pinheiro(Pine) based on what my grandma who's still living tells me. He was married to my great grandma Maria Pereira(Perry) we believe between 1916/1918 based on when my grandpa William Francis Pine was born on 2/16/1918. Joe Pine died before 1920 because he is not listed on the census of 1920 when my great grandma moved back home to new bedford to her mom and dads home. My grandma believes Joe Pine was aprox 23 when he died and she believes it was in California, We believe that Maria and Jose got married in California because my grandma said she followed Joe Pine out there. Anything the group can help with would greatly appreciate, if more information is needed so you can help I can try and find it for you. Thanks Ahead, Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] surnames
Yes there are a few that cluster more than others. Bettencourt is found more often in the central island group, for example. As for Silva, it's all over the place. On May 6, 2012 4:50 PM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: Are there surnames that are more prominent from one island to another island? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
