Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
For a Portuguese-speaker, Russian sounds like Portuguese spoken backwards. Portuguese is not closest to Romanian. Its closest relatives are galego (Galician), Ladino (a derivative of Old Spanish spoken by Sefaradi Jews) and Spanish, the Western Romance languages. European Portuguese is much faster than Brazilian Portuguese, where the vowels are more clear. Sometimes it's hard for Brazilian understand a Portuguese, but not the opposite. For example, pessoa in Brazil sounds pe-sso-a or pessoua, while in regular Portugal is psoa JS Lopes De: Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2013 19:52 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French and Russian hehe On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing. So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down the aisles. After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13 14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes. They listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. One student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish speaker). I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian. I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Nancy Couto nvcouto...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering--and I don't know enough about linguistics to do more than wonder--whether Portuguese spoken with an Azorean accent is closer to the sound of Ladino than Continental Portuguese is. If it is, the similarity would argue for a larger Jewish presence in the Azores than previously estimated. That is an interesting question! Surely someone has done research in that area? If not, they should! Mary -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
When I lived in Mexico the Brazilians I met could understand the Spanish speakers easily but not the other way around. I can read some Portuguese because I read Spanish but it is much harder to understand when spoken. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br wrote: For a Portuguese-speaker, Russian sounds like Portuguese spoken backwards. Portuguese is not closest to Romanian. Its closest relatives are galego (Galician), Ladino (a derivative of Old Spanish spoken by Sefaradi Jews) and Spanish, the Western Romance languages. European Portuguese is much faster than Brazilian Portuguese, where the vowels are more clear. Sometimes it's hard for Brazilian understand a Portuguese, but not the opposite. For example, pessoa in Brazil sounds pe-sso-a or pessoua, while in regular Portugal is psoa JS Lopes De: Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2013 19:52 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French and Russian hehe On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing. So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down the aisles. After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13 14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes. They listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. One student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish speaker). I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian. I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
*Joao, Interesting that you mention Galego. When I first got to Brasil and was having a hard time understanding, We were (The US firm I was working for) joint ventureing with a Brazilian Engineering firm. All project meetings were held in Portuguese (Brazilian of course) and I was having a heck of a time understanding what was going on. After a few meetings it started coming more easily. I remember that after one particular meeting during which I thought I was starting to catch on, I remarked to one of my collegues that I had understood one of the Brazilian engineers and thought I was beginning catch on. He brok**e out laughing and commented that the guy I understood was actually a Galego. So I always say that the first Brazilian I really understood was actually a Galego! Eventually I caught on and now when I hear Portuguese spoken on Radio or TV, I sometimes have to stop and think whether it's Brazillian or Continental or Azorean. The other issue is Island specific accents. I can identify Terceira and Sao Miguel accents fairly easily. Azoreans who have some degree of education (Particularly if they have gone to the Continent for college) seem to speak a fairly standard Portuguese. The less educated Azoreans seem to retain their regional accents. John Vasconcelos* On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br wrote: For a Portuguese-speaker, Russian sounds like Portuguese spoken backwards. Portuguese is not closest to Romanian. Its closest relatives are galego (Galician), Ladino (a derivative of Old Spanish spoken by Sefaradi Jews) and Spanish, the Western Romance languages. European Portuguese is much faster than Brazilian Portuguese, where the vowels are more clear. Sometimes it's hard for Brazilian understand a Portuguese, but not the opposite. For example, pessoa in Brazil sounds pe-sso-a or pessoua, while in regular Portugal is psoa JS Lopes -- *De:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2013 19:52 *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French and Russian hehe On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing. So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down the aisles. After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13 14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes. They listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. One student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish speaker). I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian. I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
John Vasconcellos, I'm curious about how the name LOPES is pronounced in the various areas. It's been a while since I lived in Brazil (as news bureau chief for McGraw-Hill World News in 1952), but I seem to recall it as something like LAWPZH, or maybe that was the Azorean pronunciation. Lionel Rocha Holmes On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: *Joao, Interesting that you mention Galego. When I first got to Brasil and was having a hard time understanding, We were (The US firm I was working for) joint ventureing with a Brazilian Engineering firm. All project meetings were held in Portuguese (Brazilian of course) and I was having a heck of a time understanding what was going on. After a few meetings it started coming more easily. I remember that after one particular meeting during which I thought I was starting to catch on, I remarked to one of my collegues that I had understood one of the Brazilian engineers and thought I was beginning catch on. He brok**e out laughing and commented that the guy I understood was actually a Galego. So I always say that the first Brazilian I really understood was actually a Galego! Eventually I caught on and now when I hear Portuguese spoken on Radio or TV, I sometimes have to stop and think whether it's Brazillian or Continental or Azorean. The other issue is Island specific accents. I can identify Terceira and Sao Miguel accents fairly easily. Azoreans who have some degree of education (Particularly if they have gone to the Continent for college) seem to speak a fairly standard Portuguese. The less educated Azoreans seem to retain their regional accents. John Vasconcelos* On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.brwrote: For a Portuguese-speaker, Russian sounds like Portuguese spoken backwards. Portuguese is not closest to Romanian. Its closest relatives are galego (Galician), Ladino (a derivative of Old Spanish spoken by Sefaradi Jews) and Spanish, the Western Romance languages. European Portuguese is much faster than Brazilian Portuguese, where the vowels are more clear. Sometimes it's hard for Brazilian understand a Portuguese, but not the opposite. For example, pessoa in Brazil sounds pe-sso-a or pessoua, while in regular Portugal is psoa JS Lopes -- *De:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2013 19:52 *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French and Russian hehe On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing. So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down the aisles. After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13 14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes. They listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. One student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish speaker). I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian. I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
Correction My mom speaks the Spanish from Spain from long ago. There is a book out which I want to get. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Elizabeth I agree with you. My mother who is Spanish but born in New Mexico has a hard time understanding the Spanish people speak from Mexico. Its the Spanish from Spain from long ago. They use different words that have different meanings. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.comwrote: John Vasconcellos, I'm curious about how the name LOPES is pronounced in the various areas. It's been a while since I lived in Brazil (as news bureau chief for McGraw-Hill World News in 1952), but I seem to recall it as something like LAWPZH, or maybe that was the Azorean pronunciation. Lionel Rocha Holmes On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.comwrote: *Joao, Interesting that you mention Galego. When I first got to Brasil and was having a hard time understanding, We were (The US firm I was working for) joint ventureing with a Brazilian Engineering firm. All project meetings were held in Portuguese (Brazilian of course) and I was having a heck of a time understanding what was going on. After a few meetings it started coming more easily. I remember that after one particular meeting during which I thought I was starting to catch on, I remarked to one of my collegues that I had understood one of the Brazilian engineers and thought I was beginning catch on. He brok**e out laughing and commented that the guy I understood was actually a Galego. So I always say that the first Brazilian I really understood was actually a Galego! Eventually I caught on and now when I hear Portuguese spoken on Radio or TV, I sometimes have to stop and think whether it's Brazillian or Continental or Azorean. The other issue is Island specific accents. I can identify Terceira and Sao Miguel accents fairly easily. Azoreans who have some degree of education (Particularly if they have gone to the Continent for college) seem to speak a fairly standard Portuguese. The less educated Azoreans seem to retain their regional accents. John Vasconcelos* On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.brwrote: For a Portuguese-speaker, Russian sounds like Portuguese spoken backwards. Portuguese is not closest to Romanian. Its closest relatives are galego (Galician), Ladino (a derivative of Old Spanish spoken by Sefaradi Jews) and Spanish, the Western Romance languages. European Portuguese is much faster than Brazilian Portuguese, where the vowels are more clear. Sometimes it's hard for Brazilian understand a Portuguese, but not the opposite. For example, pessoa in Brazil sounds pe-sso-a or pessoua, while in regular Portugal is psoa JS Lopes -- *De:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Janeiro de 2013 19:52 *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French and Russian hehe On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing. So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down the aisles. After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13 14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes. They listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. One student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish speaker). I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian. I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
Lionel, Around the Portuguese hall in Artesia, I hear Lopes rhyming with ropes. My introduction into Portuguese was through the band in Artesia. Many are from Terceira and speak with that accent. After listening to them for 2 years, I went to Sao Miguel. For a day and half, I couldn't understand the accent. After 2 weeks there, I went back to the band and had to get used the accent there. I guess it's the same as in America (and perhaps other countries) where a documentary is filmed. The people they are interviewing are native speakers of your language, but the are somewhat hard to understand. I think of documentaries from the rural south of the United States. Every country will have regional accents and so will the Azores for their various regions. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores
*My parents had a Pen Pal marriage. My father (Joao Vitorino Vasconcelos) immigrated from Flores in 1909 and joined two older brothers who were working as ranch hands on a ranch near Malta, Montana. Over the next 9 years, he moved first to Portland Oregon where he worked on a dairy farm which was located near the present day Portland Zoo and then a few years later he moved to work as a ranch hand for a Portuguese dairy farmer near Fresno California who turned out to be a distant cousin of the woman who he eventually married and became my mother. When my father arrived at the Pimentel ranch in 1918, he met Jose Freitas, who had just immigrated from Flores. The were both from the same small Island of Flores, but met for the first time in rural Fresno County. They became fast friends and immediately decided to marry each other's sister (who were both still on Flores). My father started writing Jose's sister, Ana, and in about 1928 he returned to Flores, formally courted my mother and in 1929, they were married. By the time he returned to be married, he had saved his money and had bought a 45 acre dairy a few miles west of Fresno and had employed his new brother-in law. Jose. Jose wasn't so lucky, My father's sister Angelina had a mind of her own and in 1920 arrived in Fresno, already married. But in the end it all worked out. Jose (who never married) and his brother Francisco went into partnership with my Aunt Angelina and her husband Jose in the Granada Market in east Fresno. John Vasconcelos * On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mary Bordi geneal...@hununu.org wrote: We don't know how my great grandmother got here. I've looked and looked. She did have a brother who may or may not have come with her. She was 18 and her passage was paid by the man who became my grandfather. We don't think they had met in the Azores because they were from different areas of Sao Jorge and she was only a year old when he left. Two of her older sisters were already here (California) and had married two brothers. I can't find their marriages or how they got here, but from census information they married here and may have been sent for also. Great grandmother was very seasick on the voyage and always said she came around the horn. She was quite melodramatic, so it could be that it only felt like it. The mail order marriages seemed to work. Mary On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there any typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? coming with husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger brother? Would she have traveled over alone if another family member already here? I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for traveling into the USA Mike -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Luz CCA
They are up!!! The Fenais de Luz documents are finally up. No more 404 error message!! Terri Santos Researching Vila Franca do Campo, Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes and now...Fenais de Luz On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:01:10 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote: It sure it taking along time, Before was getting an 404 error now no error but no record appears either. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Luz CCA
That is good. thanks On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Terri terr...@rogers.com wrote: They are up!!! The Fenais de Luz documents are finally up. No more 404 error message!! Terri Santos Researching Vila Franca do Campo, Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes and now...Fenais de Luz On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:01:10 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote: It sure it taking along time, Before was getting an 404 error now no error but no record appears either. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
