Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Picture of Azores Whalers

[picorose2]

E!  My husband and I love the article on the whalers. Thank you for sharing this wonderful  information! His paternal grandfather Manuel Jose Pimentel, Jr-5 of Lages, Island of Pico  born 27 Nov. 1872 was one of those courageous men until he was badly injured. His line is Manuel Jose -4 ... Manuel Jose "Belisca"-3 ... Francisco Jose-2 ... Jose Silveira Avila -1, so far.   We were fortunate to have visited family on Pico and Faial three times; each time we fell more in love with the Azores and its people, while checking the additions to the great Whaling Museum and Avo's house just up the street from the museum.  Thank you for sharing this wonderful  information! I am sure our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be enjoying this material tomorrow on their Father's Day visit. Happy Hunting to All Jerome and CecileOn 06/15/13, Dennis Marshallgmail.com> wrote: E, Thanks for the whaler article.  The author has written several other articles on whaling in Azores as well.  Enjoyed reading them too and saw a cousin of mine, Joao Tavares from Ribeiras in one of the articles with his photo.  He still builds whaling boats in Ribeiras.  Thanks for sharing such a nice article with us.On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM,  wrote:Thanks E!! Loved reading the whaling article. As you said, as I read about each old timer, I wondered if they were cousins I hadn't found yet. Pico & Faial are where my grandparents were born.Patricia ""E" Sharp"  wrote:> I received this from National Geographic Daily News.  Great article and> wonderful pictures.  Be sure to go to the 2nd (next) page to see moreE. sharp> pictures. Maybe some of the people are your family members?>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/pictures/130613-azores-whalers-culture-history-marine-science/#>> "E">> --> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.  Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com.> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.>>--For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.  Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.  



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Oakland Family History Center

[Tish M]

Hi Pam,

Deni and I were in Oakland about 2 years ago and they had one reader that
could read the small reels. They kept a 64 magnification lens at the desk
that you could sign out. There was a very helpful man, Ralph Severson. He
volunteered there once a week.

If you find information you want, you can save it to a flash drive. It is
time consuming but as long as no one wants the machine, they let you use it.

You might like to take a trip to the Freitas Library (
http://portfsa.org/library/) in San Leandro since you are down here.
They have a pretty good collection of books on Portuguese subjects and are
also very helpful.
It would be good to call ahead and make an appointment as the staff is very
small.

Good hunting,

Tish


On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> I did, and that is what I thought they did have one in the pass. They have
> several 16 mm readers but like I said it is still too small to read. The
> scan pro they have is nice, but the guy said they cost 6000 each.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:27 PM, rcapodc  wrote:
>
>>   Pam, Did you ask if they had an enlarging lens reader? They always did
>> in the past. Rosemarie
>>
>>  *From:* Pam Santos 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:30 PM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Oakland Family History Center
>>
>>  Kind of bummed, went to the Oakland Family History Center today (yes I
>> drove all the way from oregon) and their readers still too hard to read
>> Ribeira Grande film. They have a pro scanner that works GREAT. BUT only 2
>> so had to use for 1 hour then let someone else use it for 1 hour and so
>> forth. So awhole day wasted, only found two baptism. Wish I could just
>> reserve one for the whole day. Going back on Tuesday.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Oakland Family History Center

[Neil Teixeira]

Pam,
 Oakland FHL has one or two, manual (16mm) readers that magnify 
(different lens ) the images-larger. This is most helpful if the records 
are faded or hard to make out. (Don't bother useing their regular/normal 16 
mm readers.) The Pro Scanner is great if you already know exactly, where 
your item is-on the reel but is too slow. I only use the Pro Scanner for 
print reasons due faded records. You could also puts your films on, one of 
the three other (film) printing/copying machines, view your films on that 
machine-then print as needed..as you go. These 3 film copy machines are 
against the wall-near the Pro Scanner table. And they are not used very 
much.
Neil T. 
On Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:30:03 PM UTC-7, Pam Santos wrote:

> Kind of bummed, went to the Oakland Family History Center today (yes I 
> drove all the way from oregon) and their readers still too hard to read 
> Ribeira Grande film. They have a pro scanner that works GREAT. BUT only 2 
> so had to use for 1 hour then let someone else use it for 1 hour and so 
> forth. So awhole day wasted, only found two baptism. Wish I could just 
> reserve one for the whole day. Going back on Tuesday.
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA haplogroup J

[Lorinda Sevenans]

I did my mtDNA with National Geographic a couple of years ago and it came
out J* (not 1 or 2). I haven't worked too much on my material side since my
father's side (mostly English, been in the US since the 1620's) has been
much easier to track. The earliest maternal female I know of is my
great-grandmother, who was born in Mass. My grandmother and mother were
both born in Fairfield, CA, so I don't know which islands that line came
from. My grandfather was born on Sao Jorge, as were both of his parents and
that's as far back as I've gotten in that line.

Lorinda


On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Isabella Baltar
wrote:

> Good morning Judi,
>
> Is your J group a maternal one? Are you a J1 or J2 ? Is this the J the one
> going back to 1800? Sorry asking so many questions, just trying to figure
> out the information.
>
> Isabella
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:35:58 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>>
>> Hi Isabella,
>> My maternal line only goes back to 1800.  I have a pai incognito which
>> held me up for a long time.  my other lines go back to the 1500's.  All my
>> lines are on Sao Miguel, I don't have any other islands.
>>
>> Judi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Isabella Baltar 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Judi,
>>
>> We are just a few having the J. How far back were you able to go?
>>
>> I have all my maternal line back to the 1600's, until my 7th great
>> grandmother, the records show that they were all born in Terceira, mainly
>> in São Sebastião, except for the 7th one that I don't have a birth record.
>>
>> Isabella
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 14, 2013 2:31:47 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Isabella,
>>>
>>> I have haplogroup J.  My family is Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel.
>>> Judi Phillips
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:07:54 -0700
>>> From: myportu...@gmail.com
>>> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA haplogroup J
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have been working on my maternal genealogy and have it documented
>>> until the second half of 1600's. Being able to know my haplogroup, J1, gave
>>> new lights to my research and I hope this will help to break a brick wall I
>>> have at the moment, although I'm working in different ways to find more.
>>>
>>> The mtDNA on the J group is no more than 8% of the population of the
>>> Central and Eastern islands (Santos et al. in Origin of Peopling in the
>>> Azores).
>>>
>>> On the Y DNA, the significance for the J haplogroup is 10% for the
>>> Central islands and 11.7% for the Eastern ones (Fernando et al. in Peopling
>>> of the Azores).
>>>
>>> I would like to know if there is anyone in the group that has the
>>> Haplogroup J (mtDNA) on the Central islands and the Eastern ones?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Isabella
>>>  myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA haplogroup J

[Isabella Baltar]

Lorinda,

Thank you for contacting. I know about the National Geographic project, I
have done my DNA through Sorenson, some time ago as well. DNA tests has
changed a lot, so I decided to do another one this week, to have a deeper
information on my maternal side of the family. I hope this will help me
with a brick wall that I have at the moment and have enough information for
my two daughters.

If you decided at any time to search your maternal side, let me know what
you have, as our J group is small, the travelling between the island were
common, we may have connection.

Isabella


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Lorinda Sevenans wrote:

> I did my mtDNA with National Geographic a couple of years ago and it came
> out J* (not 1 or 2). I haven't worked too much on my material side since my
> father's side (mostly English, been in the US since the 1620's) has been
> much easier to track. The earliest maternal female I know of is my
> great-grandmother, who was born in Mass. My grandmother and mother were
> both born in Fairfield, CA, so I don't know which islands that line came
> from. My grandfather was born on Sao Jorge, as were both of his parents and
> that's as far back as I've gotten in that line.
>
> Lorinda
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Isabella Baltar <
> myportuguese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good morning Judi,
>>
>> Is your J group a maternal one? Are you a J1 or J2 ? Is this the J the
>> one going back to 1800? Sorry asking so many questions, just trying to
>> figure out the information.
>>
>> Isabella
>>
>> On Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:35:58 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Isabella,
>>> My maternal line only goes back to 1800.  I have a pai incognito which
>>> held me up for a long time.  my other lines go back to the 1500's.  All my
>>> lines are on Sao Miguel, I don't have any other islands.
>>>
>>> Judi
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Isabella Baltar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Judi,
>>>
>>> We are just a few having the J. How far back were you able to go?
>>>
>>> I have all my maternal line back to the 1600's, until my 7th great
>>> grandmother, the records show that they were all born in Terceira, mainly
>>> in São Sebastião, except for the 7th one that I don't have a birth record.
>>>
>>> Isabella
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 14, 2013 2:31:47 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:

 Hi Isabella,

 I have haplogroup J.  My family is Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel.
 Judi Phillips


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 From: myportu...@gmail.com
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] mtDNA haplogroup J

 Hi all,

 I have been working on my maternal genealogy and have it documented
 until the second half of 1600's. Being able to know my haplogroup, J1, gave
 new lights to my research and I hope this will help to break a brick wall I
 have at the moment, although I'm working in different ways to find more.

 The mtDNA on the J group is no more than 8% of the population of the
 Central and Eastern islands (Santos et al. in Origin of Peopling in
 the Azores).

 On the Y DNA, the significance for the J haplogroup is 10% for the
 Central islands and 11.7% for the Eastern ones (Fernando et al. in Peopling
 of the Azores).

 I would like to know if there is anyone in the group that has the
 Haplogroup J (mtDNA) on the Central islands and the Eastern ones?

 Thank you,

 Isabella
  myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico & Faial grandparents...

[Patricia Paquette]

Patricia-I believe we may have some common ancestry. Not sure the  
exact relationship but this shows on one of 60 pages I received from a  
member of this group. My Grandmother was born in Cedros  Faial -Mary  
Amelia Dutra-she married John Arruda Botelho son of Jose Arruda  
Botelho and Ana Leite Borges Bicudo was born
on 12 Jul 1882 in Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores. He  
died on 14 Aug

1970 in Bristol, RI.
5.  Mary Amelia Dutra daughter of Francisco Pereira Dutra Escobar and  
Rosa Maria da
Conceicao was born on 02 Aug 1891 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial,  
Azores. She died on

06 Jun 1960 in Newport, RI.
John Arruda Botelho and Mary Amelia Dutra were married etc.

Elsewhere is the info below-that has some similarities to what you  
posted:


 93. Ana Maria  daughter of Antonio Silveira GOULART and Maria Dutra  
was born on 31 Jul
1765 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores. She died on 02 Aug 1833  
in Santa Barbara,

Cedros, Faial, Azores.
Jose Francisco Pereira da Rosa Rodrigues and Ana Maria were married on  
14 Jun 1788 in

Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.They had the following children:
i. Antonio da Rosa  was born in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
ii. Francisco da Rosa  was born in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
iii. Vicente Silveira da Rosa  was born on 23 Jan 1789 in Santa Barbara,
Cedros, Faial, Azores. He married Francisca Luisa Escobar on 22 Nov 1813
in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores. He died on 14 Jul 1872 in Santa
Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
+46. iv. Jose Francisco da Rosa  was born on 29 Jun 1790

Thought they may be the same Antonio Silveria Goulart?  Patricia  
Arruda Paquette Middletown R.I.




On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:15 PM,
wrote:



Hi Shirley,
How have you been? My grandfather was Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar  
b. March 8.1868 in Cedros, Faial, son of Tomas, grandson of Antonio  
& ggrandson of Manuel Silveira Goularte b. 1765 in Cedros, Faial.


My grandmother was Maria da Conceicao Avila b. Sept 30, 1873 in  
Ribeiras, Pico, dau of Manuel Machado Avila b. March 7, 1832 &  
ggrandaughter of Manuel Machado Avila b. July 1, 1790 in Ribeiras,  
Pico.


I also have Pereira Oliveira, Pires Simas, Pires Ramalho, Vieira  
Soares & Silveira Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico.


Let me know if you have any more questions.

Patricia

 Shirley Allegre  wrote:
Patricia:  What were the names of your grandparents from Pico &  
Faial???

When were they born?  Who were their parents??
My husband has ancestors from Pico & Faial.

Shirley in CA
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Thanks E!! Loved reading the whaling article. As you said, as I  
read about
each old timer, I wondered if they were cousins I hadn't found yet.  
Pico &

Faial are where my grandparents were born.

Patricia

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