[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread João Ventura
Well spotted!!

I see Conceição, Feteira, Flamengos, Matriz da Horta, Pedro Miguel, Praia 
do Almoxarife and Praia do Norte there also, all for Horta (Faial).

Thanks a lot for this information!

João C. Ventura

On Monday, October 7, 2013 8:26:24 AM UTC+2, Pam Santos wrote:
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> The CCA site has added Feterias and Ginetes records.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread pico
There are a few incomplete freguesias for Faial still. Probably fill in the gaps in the next few days.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes
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From: João_Ventura 
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To: azores@googlegroups.com

Well spotted!!I see Conceição, Feteira, Flamengos, Matriz da Horta, Pedro Miguel, Praia do Almoxarife and Praia do Norte there also, all for Horta (Faial).Thanks a lot for this information!João C. Ventura  





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Pam Santos
Your welcome. hopefully they will be adding more soon.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:07 AM,  wrote:

> There are a few incomplete freguesias for Faial still. Probably fill in
> the gaps in the next few days.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes
> records!
> From: João_Ventura 
> Date: Mon, October 07, 2013 1:01 am
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> Well spotted!!
>
> I see Conceição, Feteira, Flamengos, Matriz da Horta, Pedro Miguel, Praia
> do Almoxarife and Praia do Norte there also, all for Horta (Faial).
>
> Thanks a lot for this information!
>
> João C. Ventura
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Pam Santos
They have added more too. Livermento, and Mosteiros


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> Your welcome. hopefully they will be adding more soon.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:07 AM,  wrote:
>
>> There are a few incomplete freguesias for Faial still. Probably fill in
>> the gaps in the next few days.
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>>   Original Message 
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes
>> records!
>> From: João_Ventura 
>> Date: Mon, October 07, 2013 1:01 am
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Well spotted!!
>>
>> I see Conceição, Feteira, Flamengos, Matriz da Horta, Pedro Miguel, Praia
>> do Almoxarife and Praia do Norte there also, all for Horta (Faial).
>>
>> Thanks a lot for this information!
>>
>> João C. Ventura
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread João Ventura
Indeed, they have.

They've also added Ribeirinha and Salão to Horta (Faial). That completes 
all the Horta parishes.. Maybe someone can compare the list with the LDS 
microfilm index, and see if there's anything still missing.

>From a personal point of view, I'm happy. My Azorean todo list was all in 
thes missing Faial records. I can now continue on that front..

João

On Monday, October 7, 2013 12:57:38 PM UTC+2, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> They have added more too. Livermento, and Mosteiros
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Pam Santos 
> > wrote:
>
>> Your welcome. hopefully they will be adding more soon.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:07 AM, > wrote:
>>
>>> There are a few incomplete freguesias for Faial still. Probably fill in 
>>> the gaps in the next few days.
>>>
>>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>>> Sacramento, California
>>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>>> 916-550-1618
>>> www.dholmes.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   Original Message 
>>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes
>>> records!
>>> From: João_Ventura >
>>> Date: Mon, October 07, 2013 1:01 am
>>> To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
>>>
>>> Well spotted!!
>>>
>>> I see Conceição, Feteira, Flamengos, Matriz da Horta, Pedro Miguel, 
>>> Praia do Almoxarife and Praia do Norte there also, all for Horta (Faial).
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for this information!
>>>
>>> João C. Ventura 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
You guys want to email the CCA and thank them?  Profusely!  Otherwise, I
may have one foot in the grave by the time to they upload Vila Franca,
way down there in the Vs.  LOL

Where was Graciosa & Santa Maria in this uploading process?

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart

2013-10-07 Thread Shirley Allegre
Cheri:  My cousin Henrietta CAMBRA and I (Shirley CAMBRA) were double first 
cousins.
Our mothers were sisters and our fathers were brothers.
Shirley in CA
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart


  OK, I think I came up with an idea to illustrate double first cousins.


  I think the people that I used are fairly famous worldwide.


  If you think of you and your first cousin, you are first cousins because you 
share Grandma and Grandpa ___ in common.


  Double first cousins share BOTH sets of grandparents in common.  You get a 
brother and sister from one family marrying the sister and brother from the 
other family.


  I've use Desi Arnaz & Lucille Ball for one family and John F. Kennedy and 
Jackie Bouvier Onassis as the other family.  Their kids marry each other and 
we'll pretend they have you and me.  Change my gender to suit your needs on the 
attached chart. (PDF - I think most people can view this).


  Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Gail E,

Oh, and you married your first cousin?  Then you totally understand the
double first cousin thing!

When I had it first explained to me, it didn't make complete sense. Then
after it happened in my family it made sense.  It was hard to understand or
visualize the having BOTH grandparents in common.


Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family

2013-10-07 Thread Shirley Allegre
I am working on MARTIN in California.  Do you know if your Martin had any 
brothers and sisters that went to California??

Shirley in CA
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:48 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada 
Azores-Martins Family


  He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge.  That is the extent that we 
know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or extended 
family.





  On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which 
Ponta Delgada on which island)

Hi Everyone,
Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my 
grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the 
consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the 
following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 
1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were 
Maria Evangelina Martins

Manuel Martins

any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cardoza family reunion

2013-10-07 Thread Shirley Allegre
Janelle:  Four of my greatgrandparents were on the BELL ROCK that arrived in 
Hawaii on 1 Nov. 1883.
If you will give me the names of your ancestors that were on the Bell Rock, I 
will look and see if I can find them for you.

Right now, I am working on CARDOZA in California.

Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:41 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cardoza family reunion


  We are working on a reunion for 2014 for our family and learned from family 
history that ancestors (my great-grandparents) came from Azores to Hawaii on 
Bell Rock (1405 passengers) which arrived in Honolulu on November 1, 1883.  
They then boarded a smaller boat to the island of Hawaii and landed in 
Laupahoehoe Point.

  Another vessel about 4 years later, Thomas Bell arrived on April 13, 1888 
from Funchal, Madeira which contained my maternal great-grandparents.  How can 
I see the names on this vessel and the other one.

  Is there a place to go for such information?  I am clueless and want to try 
and gather this information if I can.  If any of you have any experience, 
please share.

  Aloha,
  Janelle Cardoza

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records

2013-10-07 Thread Shirley Allegre
Fawn:  I have the Feteira, Fails films.  I will see if I can find anything for 
you.

Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:25 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records


  I am looking for a marriage record for Manuel Dutra Mendonca and Violante Do 
Rosario from Feteira, Faial. I checked the marriages on the CCA site from 1726 
back to 1720 (their first child I have was probably born abt 1727) but they 
weren't there.  Unfortunately their records don't go back any further than 
that.  Are there previous Feteira records and the CCA doesn't have them up yet 
or did the people from Feteira go to another fregusia previous to 1720??

  Thanks,
  Fawn Silva
  St. Louis, MO

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart

2013-10-07 Thread Robin Lebo
Thanks so much for that I've been trying to connect family members. My 
grandfather George Silva and his brother Henry Silva married sisters, Nina and 
Catherine. 
Many Blessings
Robin Lebo


> On Oct 7, 2013, at 10:52, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Gail E,
> 
> Oh, and you married your first cousin?  Then you totally understand the 
> double first cousin thing!
> 
> When I had it first explained to me, it didn't make complete sense. Then 
> after it happened in my family it made sense.  It was hard to understand or 
> visualize the having BOTH grandparents in common.
> 
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each
match had a bar under their name.  If you pointed at it, you could see if
they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday,
it disappeared.

I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many
people called and complained that too much information was being shared.
So, if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are
going to have to email them. :(

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin
Azores DNA Project

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Pam Santos
I will email them and Thank them, I am not sure I don't remember


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> You guys want to email the CCA and thank them?  Profusely!  Otherwise, I
> may have one foot in the grave by the time to they upload Vila Franca,
> way down there in the Vs.  LOL
>
> Where was Graciosa & Santa Maria in this uploading process?
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Pam Santos
I am excited BUT rusty I have not really been looking at records since they
stopped adding them in February lol


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> I will email them and Thank them, I am not sure I don't remember
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> You guys want to email the CCA and thank them?  Profusely!  Otherwise, I
>> may have one foot in the grave by the time to they upload Vila Franca,
>> way down there in the Vs.  LOL
>>
>> Where was Graciosa & Santa Maria in this uploading process?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Pam Santos
Bummer!!! I liked that feature


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> When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each
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> they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday,
> it disappeared.
>
> I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many
> people called and complained that too much information was being shared.
> So, if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are
> going to have to email them. :(
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records

2013-10-07 Thread Fawn Silva
Thank you, Shirley.  Since I sent the post I checked online to see what the
LDS films contain & it looks like they only go back to 1720 also.  Where
did people go before that time???

Fawn


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> **
> Fawn:  I have the Feteira, Fails films.  I will see if I can find anything
> for you.
>
> Shirley in CA
>
> - Original Message -
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> *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:25 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records
>
>  I am looking for a marriage record for Manuel Dutra Mendonca and
> Violante Do Rosario from Feteira, Faial. I checked the marriages on the CCA
> site from 1726 back to 1720 (their first child I have was probably born abt
> 1727) but they weren't there.  Unfortunately their records don't go back
> any further than that.  Are there previous Feteira records and the CCA
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> fregusia previous to 1720??
>
> Thanks,
> Fawn Silva
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Denis Meals
That is too bad. It was a great feature.
Tish

On Monday, October 7, 2013, Pam Santos wrote:

> Bummer!!! I liked that feature
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Cheri Mello 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each
>> match had a bar under their name.  If you pointed at it, you could see if
>> they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday,
>> it disappeared.
>>
>> I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many
>> people called and complained that too much information was being shared.
>> So, if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are
>> going to have to email them. :(
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Family Tree DNA Admin
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Denis Meals
Cheri:
Move over with your one foot -- Tish and I need room for our four feet in
this common grave, waiting on Santa Maria.
Denis


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> I am excited BUT rusty I have not really been looking at records since
> they stopped adding them in February lol
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>
>> I will email them and Thank them, I am not sure I don't remember
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> You guys want to email the CCA and thank them?  Profusely!  Otherwise, I
>>> may have one foot in the grave by the time to they upload Vila Franca,
>>> way down there in the Vs.  LOL
>>>
>>> Where was Graciosa & Santa Maria in this uploading process?
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records

2013-10-07 Thread Alda Jorge
Has any one managee to access the Fail site, have been trying all day
without success.  Any suggestions


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking for a marriage record for Manuel Dutra Mendonca and Violante
> Do Rosario from Feteira, Faial. I checked the marriages on the CCA site
> from 1726 back to 1720 (their first child I have was probably born abt
> 1727) but they weren't there.  Unfortunately their records don't go back
> any further than that.  Are there previous Feteira records and the CCA
> doesn't have them up yet or did the people from Feteira go to another
> fregusia previous to 1720??
>
> Thanks,
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family

2013-10-07 Thread luiznoia .
I've checked the Flores records for any Gabriel Martins without a trace, so
I'd start looking in Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel for this family


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Shirley Allegre wrote:

> **
> I am working on MARTIN in California.  Do you know if your Martin had any
> brothers and sisters that went to California??
>
> Shirley in CA
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Nancy Martins 
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:48 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada
> Azores-Martins Family
>
>  He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge.  That is the extent
> that we know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or
> extended family.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>>  Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state
>> which Ponta Delgada on which island)
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my
>> grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the
>> consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the
>> following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January
>> 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were
>>
>> Maria Evangelina Martins
>>
>> Manuel Martins
>>
>> any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Melinda Lopes
Cheri,
Is it possible for FTDNA to add an option that would let those of us who would 
like to share the population information the ability to do so? I understand 
that some people are uncomfortable but most of us probably are not. I really 
liked that feature and thought that it helped narrow down how one might be 
related to various matches.

Melinda Lopes

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> On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:33 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
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> When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each 
> match had a bar under their name.  If you pointed at it, you could see if 
> they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday, 
> it disappeared.
> 
> I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many 
> people called and complained that too much information was being shared.  So, 
> if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are going 
> to have to email them. :(
>  
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Melinda L,
Will call and email them with your idea. And if that doesn't work, I'll
bring it up at the DNA conference next month.
Cheri Mello
Azores DNA Admin (volunteer)
On Oct 7, 2013 3:37 PM, "Melinda Lopes"  wrote:

> Cheri,
> Is it possible for FTDNA to add an option that would let those of us who
> would like to share the population information the ability to do so? I
> understand that some people are uncomfortable but most of us probably are
> not. I really liked that feature and thought that it helped narrow down how
> one might be related to various matches.
>
> Melinda Lopes
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:33 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>
> When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each
> match had a bar under their name.  If you pointed at it, you could see if
> they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday,
> it disappeared.
>
> I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many
> people called and complained that too much information was being shared.
> So, if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are
> going to have to email them. :(
>
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin
> Azores DNA Project
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family

2013-10-07 Thread Deb McCabe
Hi Shirley,
 
Are you only looking for Martin ancestors from Ponta Delgada?   I have Martins 
ancestors (not all with the Martins surname)who came to Northern California 
from Feteira, Faial and earlier from Rosias, Sao Jorge; Sao Mateus and Piedade, 
Pico; and Se and Bicoutos, Terceira.  It would be interesting to compare trees.
 
Deb (looking4roots51) 

When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!


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>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada 
>Azores-Martins Family
>
>
>
>I am working on MARTIN in California.  Do you know if your Martin had any 
>brothers and sisters that went to California??
> 
>Shirley in CA
>- Original Message - 
>>From: Nancy Martins 
>>To: azores@googlegroups.com 
>>Cc: Azores Genealogy 
>>Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:48 PM
>>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada 
>>Azores-Martins Family
>>
>>
>>He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge.  That is the extent that we 
>>know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or extended 
>>family.
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which 
>>Ponta Delgada on which island)
>>>
>>>Hi Everyone,Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on 
>>>my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from 
>>>the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have 
>>>the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born 
>>>January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were 
>>>Maria Evangelina Martins
>>>Manuel Martins
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread rml...@gmail.com
Does that mean I will have to contact them personally through email to find 
out about my mother's and my Population Finder  percentages?
 
Bob

On Monday, October 7, 2013 11:32:52 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

> When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each 
> match had a bar under their name.  If you pointed at it, you could see if 
> they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday, 
> it disappeared.
>
> I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many 
> people called and complained that too much information was being shared.  
> So, if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are 
> going to have to email them. :(
>  
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin
> Azores DNA Project
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Bob L,

I think so.  But I emailed Melinda Lopes' idea to them and I will follow up
with a call tomorrow.

I still have the question you asked me in a private email about the
Population Finder.  Something tells me that they're going to wait for the
new Population Finder that they've been promising us for almost a year!

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Alda J,

The Faial records on the old NEPS (now called CITCEM)) site, or the ones on
the CCA site?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread mances
There's one person that all of us should to thank: Dr. Vasco Alves 
Cordeiro, the President of the Regional Government of the Azores.

Here's his email address:
presiden...@azores.gov.pt

At:
http://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/pgra/

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 7 de outubro de 2013 12h48min56s UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
escreveu:
>
> You guys want to email the CCA and thank them?  Profusely!  Otherwise, I 
> may have one foot in the grave by the time to they upload Vila Franca, 
> way down there in the Vs.  LOL  
>
> Where was Graciosa & Santa Maria in this uploading process?
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family

2013-10-07 Thread Edward Rodrigues
Shirley
I came across a obit for a martins while looking at Rosario records   
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1870-1879_item1/P479.html
also a baptismo for a martins 
Edward



On Oct 7, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Deb McCabe wrote:

> Hi Shirley,
>  
> Are you only looking for Martin ancestors from Ponta Delgada?   I have 
> Martins ancestors (not all with the Martins surname)who came to Northern 
> California from Feteira, Faial and earlier from Rosias, Sao Jorge; Sao Mateus 
> and Piedade, Pico; and Se and Bicoutos, Terceira.  It would be interesting to 
> compare trees.
>  
> Deb (looking4roots51) 
>  
> When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!
> 
> From: Shirley Allegre 
> To: azores@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada 
> Azores-Martins Family
> 
> I am working on MARTIN in California.  Do you know if your Martin had any 
> brothers and sisters that went to California??
>  
> Shirley in CA
> - Original Message -
> From: Nancy Martins
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Azores Genealogy
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:48 PM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada 
> Azores-Martins Family
> 
> He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge.  That is the extent that we 
> know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or extended 
> family.
>   
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which 
> Ponta Delgada on which island)
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my 
> grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the 
> consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the 
> following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 
> 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were
> Maria Evangelina Martins
> Manuel Martins
> any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records

2013-10-07 Thread Alda Jorge
Sorry for not explaining myself meant to say on the CCA site.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Alda J,
>
> The Faial records on the old NEPS (now called CITCEM)) site, or the ones
> on the CCA site?
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Marie, shantzre1 at verizon.net:

I have double first cousins. I think  

Grandmother Theresa De Mello married Manuel Freitas

Her brother Manuel de Mello married Manuel Freitas sister, Maria Freitas. 
 
It confuses people, especially the cousins. 

de Mello's are from Vila Franca. The Freitas are from Fayal, Madeira. 

Marie 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Alda J,

I went to the CCA site, to the Feteira, Faial marriages (1720s- on) since
that is the title of this thread, and I got the 505 Internal Error.  I'm
accessing the site from California, at 5:37pm PDT using Firefox.
Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Manoel,

Is it OK to write to him in English?  (My formal, academic English - not my
laidback California slang!)


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread mances
Unbelievable!

Let´s complain, let´s email them about this stupid decision!
And I'm still thinking about the diacritics too.

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 7 de outubro de 2013 15h32min52s UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
escreveu:
>
> When FTDNA unveiled their new Family Finder matches page last week, each 
> match had a bar under their name.  If you pointed at it, you could see if 
> they were 80% European and 20% North African, for example.  Then on Friday, 
> it disappeared.
>
> I called FTDNA to find out when it would be restored.  Never.  Too many 
> people called and complained that too much information was being shared.  
> So, if you want to know your match's Population Finder percentages, you are 
> going to have to email them. :(
>  
> Cheri Mello
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> Azores DNA Project
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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5
weeks away.

I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.

So far I have:
1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)
2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms

So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed saying I
have 25 people wanting these features!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread mances
Yes, it's Okay, but as for me I would love to learn your laidback 
California slang!

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 7 de outubro de 2013 21h39min41s UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
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>
> Manoel,
>
> Is it OK to write to him in English?  (My formal, academic English - not 
> my laidback California slang!)
>
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Edward Rodrigues
both 1 & 2 for me


On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:

> OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5 weeks 
> away.
> 
> I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.
> 
> So far I have:
> 1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)
> 2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms
> 
> So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed saying I 
> have 25 people wanting these features!
> 
> 
> Cheri Mello
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> Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site added Feterias and Ginetes records!

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Done!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Mary Bordi
1 and 2 for me, too!

On Monday, October 7, 2013, Cheri Mello wrote:

> OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5
> weeks away.
>
> I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.
>
> So far I have:
> 1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)
> 2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms
>
> So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed saying
> I have 25 people wanting these features!
>
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Pam Santos
1 and 2 for me too


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> 1 and 2 for me, too!
>
>
> On Monday, October 7, 2013, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>> OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5
>> weeks away.
>>
>> I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.
>>
>> So far I have:
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>> 2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms
>>
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>> I have 25 people wanting these features!
>>
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>> Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Tomas Leal
As long as you're going to bring up the matter, Cheri, let me add my ,02 
euros worth:

Given there is already an option for user information to be made "Private" 
on Family Tree DNA, what not make the match bars also available for privacy 
or "opt out"? It seems such a waste to close off such rich information 
because of complaints from some users. As anyone can readily tell by 
looking at the various reports, most users are fully public with their 
information on the site. The site's "now you see it, now you don't" seems 
overkill, a massive solution to a much smaller problem.

Tomás Leal

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches and the Population Finder bar

2013-10-07 Thread Denis Meals
Very good idea Tomas.
I second the motion.
Tish

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> As long as you're going to bring up the matter, Cheri, let me add my ,02
> euros worth:
>
> Given there is already an option for user information to be made "Private"
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> because of complaints from some users. As anyone can readily tell by
> looking at the various reports, most users are fully public with their
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> overkill, a massive solution to a much smaller problem.
>
> Tomás Leal
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Denis Meals
1 more than 2, but 2 works for me, too.
Tish

On Monday, October 7, 2013, Pam Santos wrote:

> 1 and 2 for me too
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Mary Bordi 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> 1 and 2 for me, too!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 7, 2013, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>>> OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5
>>> weeks away.
>>>
>>> I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.
>>>
>>> So far I have:
>>> 1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)
>>> 2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms
>>>
>>> So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed
>>> saying I have 25 people wanting these features!
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Reposting on this thread, because it's what I'm bringing with me in Nov.  I
won't remember to look on the other thread 5 weeks from now.  Everyone can
ignore this message from me.

>From Tomas Leal:
As long as you're going to bring up the matter, Cheri, let me add my ,02
euros worth:

Given there is already an option for user information to be made "Private"
on Family Tree DNA, what not make the match bars also available for privacy
or "opt out"? It seems such a waste to close off such rich information
because of complaints from some users. As anyone can readily tell by
looking at the various reports, most users are fully public with their
information on the site. The site's "now you see it, now you don't" seems
overkill, a massive solution to a much smaller problem.

Tomás Leal
===
>From Tish Meals:
Very good idea Tomas.
I second the motion.
Tish



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Denis Meals  wrote:

> 1 more than 2, but 2 works for me, too.
> Tish
>
>
> On Monday, October 7, 2013, Pam Santos wrote:
>
>> 1 and 2 for me too
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>>
>>> 1 and 2 for me, too!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 7, 2013, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
 OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5
 weeks away.

 I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.

 So far I have:
 1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)
 2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms

 So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed
 saying I have 25 people wanting these features!


 Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Technical definition of a centiMorgan

2013-10-07 Thread Cheri Mello
>From Family Tree DNA:
A centimorgan is a unit of measure representing a 1% chance that a region
of DNA will recombine in a single generation. A centimorgan block
represents a continuous region of markers that HAVE NOT recombined and is
shared between two individuals. The longer the block, the higher the
probability a recombination event SHOULD HAVE occurred in that region. When
two individuals have a region in common with a high rate of recombination
they have a high probability of being related.

Wikipedia has some rather detailed information including the math formula:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centimorgan

And here's the answer to Doug da Rocha Holmes' question about how much does
a parent have in common, a first cousin, etc:
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Identical_By_Descent_segment

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Chuck Nostrome

1 and 2 please.

Thank You,
Pat Nostrome


-Original Message-
From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2013 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff


Reposting on this thread, because it's what I'm bringing with me in Nov.  I 
won't remember to look on the other thread 5 weeks from now.  Everyone can 
ignore this message from me.

>From Tomas Leal:
As long as you're going to bring up the matter, Cheri, let me add my ,02 euros 
worth:


Given there is already an option for user information to be made "Private" on 
Family Tree DNA, what not make the match bars also available for privacy or 
"opt out"? It seems such a waste to close off such rich information because of 
complaints from some users. As anyone can readily tell by looking at the 
various reports, most users are fully public with their information on the 
site. The site's "now you see it, now you don't" seems overkill, a massive 
solution to a much smaller problem.


Tomás Leal
===

>From Tish Meals:
Very good idea Tomas.
I second the motion.
Tish






On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Denis Meals  wrote:

1 more than 2, but 2 works for me, too.
Tish


On Monday, October 7, 2013, Pam Santos  wrote:

1 and 2 for me too



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

1 and 2 for me, too!


On Monday, October 7, 2013, Cheri Mello  wrote:



OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5 weeks 
away.

I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.


So far I have:

1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)

2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms


So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed saying I 
have 25 people wanting these features!





Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff

2013-10-07 Thread Sam Koester
Yes, to both.  Sam



 From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 5:49 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff
 


OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5 weeks 
away.

I'll take people's suggestions to the conference.

So far I have:
1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button)
2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms

So, if you want 1 & 2, go ahead and say so.  Then I can come armed saying I 
have 25 people wanting these features!



Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart

2013-10-07 Thread rondo ranch
Try not only brothers marrying sisters but the sisters' 2 maternal uncles married their husbands' sisters. Double first cousins and first cousin and cousins once removed all in one family.  Makes for interesting family reunions.  Doreen-Original Message-
From: Cheri Mello 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart

Repost for Marie, shantzre1 at verizon.net:I have double first cousins. I think  Grandmother Theresa De Mello married Manuel FreitasHer brother Manuel de Mello married Manuel Freitas sister, Maria Freitas.  It confuses people, especially the cousins. de Mello's are from Vila Franca. The Freitas are from Fayal, Madeira. Marie 



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