[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese and Azores genealogy on Facebook
Hey everyone!! Here is the link that will take you directly to Nick's Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/azoresgenealogy/ Click the link above, and then log into Facebook if prompted. Once there click the Join button, and it should send Nick a message requesting membership. See everyone there! Robert Marshall On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 4:04:33 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Nick Gombash has breathed new life into Portuguese and Azores genealogy on Facebook, in case you're interested. ... Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Portuguese citizenship
Just a quick question regarding citizenship. If I've read this thread correctly I would not be eligible because I have to go back to my g-g-grandfather to find someone born in the Açores. Right? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Portuguese citizenship
Robert,I am pretty sure anyone can become a citizen of Portugal, but since you don't have a parent who is a citizen, then you'll take the long route and have to become naturalized with living there, language proficiency, etc. - pretty much like becoming naturalized in the USA.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Portuguese citizenship From: robertjm rober...@hockeyhockeyhockey.com Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 11:26 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Just a quick question regarding citizenship.If I've read this thread correctly I would not be eligible because I have to go back to my g-g-grandfather to find someone born in the Açores. Right? -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Towns with percent of Portuguese
Try this site, it’s really interesting. It gives the percentage of Portuguese in the USA by town. Really shows where the Portuguese population is today. Rosemarie zipatlas.com/us/city-comparison/percentage-portuguese-population.htm -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Towns with percent of Portuguese
Thanks, Rosemarie, this is really interesting. E On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:06 AM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Try this site, it’s really interesting. It gives the percentage of Portuguese in the USA by town. Really shows where the Portuguese population is today. Rosemarie zipatlas.com/us/city-comparison/percentage-portuguese-population.htm -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese and Azores genealogy on Facebook
The Facebook groups have no real way of collaborating on research, but a good place to post old family photos. A lot of posts are along the lines of : my grandfather was Joe Dias, do you know where he's from? Expect to have a mountain of Portuguese and Brazilian spam start filling up your inbox. Put a block on anything suffixed as .br, and except out anyone you already have contact to. Good for recruiting the more researchers to this group. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:34 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, The group that Doug was referring to is actually: https://www.facebook.com/groups/portuguesegenealogy/ They're still small(ish) groups, the Portuguese one with 130 members and the Azores with 23 members. A bit far from the Portuguese language counterparts: https://www.facebook.com/groups/origens.ghf/ (12.000+ members) https://www.facebook.com/groups/genealogiasdosacores/ (256 members) I'll add these two to the list of Facebook groups on tombo.pt: http://tombo.pt/content/grupos-e-redes-sociais Regards, João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Thursday, 10 July 2014 08:17:29 UTC+2, robertjm wrote: Hey everyone!! Here is the link that will take you directly to Nick's Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/azoresgenealogy/ Click the link above, and then log into Facebook if prompted. Once there click the Join button, and it should send Nick a message requesting membership. See everyone there! Robert Marshall On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 4:04:33 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Nick Gombash has breathed new life into Portuguese and Azores genealogy on Facebook, in case you're interested. ... Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Avila Bettencourt, Sao Roque, Ilha Do Pico.
YES I got all that, EXCEPT the passage for him in 1912, THAT DID IT THERE..Do you think that Eduardos brother, Manuel Sylvia Avila's middle name could possibliy be SILVA instead and they just didn't know how to spell it correctly?.. The reason why I ask is this...My Grandfather Ant. changed his last name AFTER he got married to, SILVA and to this day we could never figure out WHY THAT NAME? Well, it seems kinda clear now. Now, if i take that info and hopefully it will back track to my great aunts and great uncle back in Pico that were left behind.And Yes, Eric, I got the Marriage licence hanging on my FAMILY wall at home...that was absolutely PERFECT. I was robbed of them so, for me this is the closest I can get to themand my new found distant cousins, whom i just love dearly!!! Thank You for ALL your wonderful advice and ALL the great info...it confirms alot on what i have already and new stuff too. :) GOD BLESS YOU ALL!! My Best wishes, Terrie Silva On Monday, June 30, 2014 4:25:30 PM UTC-7, Portugues Silva wrote: Olá ..Fellow Azoreans...LOOK FOR THESE FAMILIES~AVILA BETTENCOURT OR AVILA, BETTENCOURT. My grandfather Antonio Avila Bettencourt and his Brother Edwardo (Edward, Edwin) HE went by Avila when he came to America. There were 2 other brothers in that family too. Manuel and Jose. WE have no info on the families of these 2 brother or when they passed away. I’m really in need of the info for my 3rd cousin Hazel, who is 90 y/o (for her peace of mind) and she has been looking for her aunts and uncles that were left behind. CIRCA 1917. That family had 9 children from Edwardo (Avila) Bettencourt and Maria Da Silva. 4 boys and 5 girls. 4 children came to America 3 boys and 1 girl and that girl is my 2nd cousin, my Grandfathers niece, Isaura (Hazel), so 5 were left behind, 1 boy and 4 girls…there was a set of twins in that too…don’t know if it’s 2 girls or 1 of each.PLUS Their mother Maria and she passed sometime between 1917/1919). The Avila Bettencourt family lived in the village of Sao Roque. (north east side of the island). This family that came to America settled on the central coast of California, in the counties of Northern Santa Barbara and South San Luis Obispo. Any info will surely help us find them and the families today. We greatly appreciate ANY AVILA or BETTENCOURT info...because we are sure that maybe their children might of came to america. Thank You so very much for your help and hopefully we will be able to find some info, ANYTHING... -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Synagogue Ponta Delgada
Hello, does anyone know if the restoration of the Synagogue in Ponta Delgada is open to the public. My husband and I will be visiting Ponta Delgada Sept. My Azores family is all Catholic, Faial and Rosario Lagos, my husband is Jewish. I will be visiting the churches where my grandmothers and grandfathers were Baptised and Married, I would also like to document the architecture and history of the Jewish population Ponta Delgada and Faial. I'm wondering what their trade was and how the Jewish population fit in with the Catholic population, Thanks, Barbara Bluhm -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] needed help finding Joao De Sousa
i am trying to find Joao De Sousa on culturacores.azores.gov.pt but am having a hard time because i can not read portuguese. i found him on Village of Calheta, Sao Jorge baptisms 1900—1911, Image #4 March 1900. with my grandfathers help but he has now become very sick. any help will be very apprecaited -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Hawaiian Group on Facebook
Doug's post reminded me that I haven't posted about the Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogy Group on Facebook. We have a fairly active group working in various areas of Portuguese Hawaiian Research. It is a closed, moderated group (because of spammers). If you're on Facebook, check us out. Click the Join Group if you'd like to participate. Once your request is approved, you can post. Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/171030375067/ (if you have trouble with that link, just search for portuguese hawaiian genealogy) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] A question about Pai Incognito
I have had the opportunity to work on lines in the Azores and Southern France (not Portuguese...LOL) I noticed something that made me wonder about terms. In France, there is an equivalent to Pai Incognito. It escapes me at this moment, but it isn't important. It means the same thing that the father is unknown.But, you almost equally see fil naturel or something similar. This means the child was born to an unmarried couple. It is followed by the name of the father and the mother. The father claims his children in this case. I learned from other French researchers that up through the mid 1800s (maybe later), many couples could not afford to pay the necessary fees at the civil and church level. Instead, they set up house and started their family as if they were married. They would save up money and then when they could afford it, they would go do the necessary things to be officially married. In these cases you always saw the children baptized as fil naturel and with the father's name given. It was not an uncommon practice amongst the poor. I have a couple in my tree in the 1780s. It is a little peculiar when you find the baptismals then 5-10 years later you find the marriage. This made me wonder about the Pai Incognitos in the Azorean records that I have found. Was there a similar thing in the Azorean culture? Did couples who were poor start their families without an official marriage or was this something specific to France--or maybe even Southern France where my Dad's line hails from? I really started to wonder about it after working on my cousin's Raposo line. Her great grandmother had at least two children where the father was Pai Incognito and her great great grandmother also had at least two children where the father was Pai Incognito. I don't recall seeing multiple Pai Incognitos in one family, and with mother and daughter, though I guess I haven't really looked that hard since it wasn't in my direct line. Interested to know what others think. I have very little knowledge of Azorean culture during the 1700 and 1800s. Thanks Mel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] needed help finding Joao De Sousa
Tyler S, Post the link to the exact record and its location (left bottom, etc). You wouldn't want to burn the translators' help because the wrong Joao got translated. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A question about Pai Incognito
The only one I know was the female got pregnant (by her cousin) and they set up house while they waited 4 years for the dispensation to be granted. As for a general custom, I've never heard of anything like that in the Azores. Maybe someone else has. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] needed help finding Joao De Sousa
Hi Tyler,Hopefully your grandfather didn't steer you in the wrong direction, because on image 4, March 1900, there is only a child named Oscar and one named Jose.Oscar's father is Francisco de Sousa, so maybe you just made a mistake?If Oscar is indeed your ancestor, then this becomes interesting to me, because his parents are from Santa Luzia in the city of Angra on the island of Terceira and will quite likely connect to my family there. I'll have to check that...Doug da Rocha HolmesPico Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] needed help finding Joao De Sousa From: tyler sousa ladis...@gmail.com Date: Thu, July 10, 2014 1:25 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com i am trying to find Joao De Sousa on culturacores.azores.gov.pt but am having a hard time because i can not read portuguese.i found him onVillage of Calheta, Sao Jorge baptisms 1900—1911, Image #4 March 1900. with my grandfathers help but he has now become very sick.any help will be veryapprecaited -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Towns with percent of Portuguese
And...no surprise...my hometown of Fall River, MA is #1! At least they're #1 at something... ;) It is an interesting chart and good for beginners in genealogy. Thanks! Joanne On Jul 10, 2014, at 12:27 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Rosemarie, this is really interesting. E On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:06 AM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Try this site, it's really interesting. It gives the percentage of Portuguese in the USA by town. Really shows where the Portuguese population is today. Rosemarie zipatlas.com/us/city-comparison/percentage-portuguese-population.htm -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A question about Pai Incognito
There are cases of pai incognito for the child but later on this child's children (his grandchildren) name the grandfather. So you might check these records carefully. E On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:44 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com wrote: John/Eric, thanks for your response. I do realize that pai incognito does not mean the father is unknown to the mother. In most cases, she has a very good idea who the father is. ;) It is only that the name was not revealed. John, thanks for clarifying each term. That is interesting about waiting for the dispensation. So, I can gather that even though the terms sound similar between the French and Portuguese (Fil Naturel or Naturelle and FIlho(a) natural) that they were applied differently in each country. Thanks again! On Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:36:22 PM UTC-7, John Raposo wrote: My understanding is as follows: Filho (a) natural means that the parents, who are not married to each other, nevertheless have no impediments to marriage, i.e. neither one is married and they are therefore free to marry each other if they so desire. In the 16th and 17th centuries one often sees couples getting married who already have a child (or more) who have been waiting for dispensations from the prohibitions relative to consanguinity, before they would be allowed to marry. The term filho(a) natural can only be properly applied if the identity of both parents is known. (How else would one know that the parents were free to marry?) Filho (a) illegítimo (a) means that at least one parent is not free to marry the other parent, e.g. one of them is married to somebody else. Pai incógnito (and in some rare cases mãe incógnita), pai não sabido, means the identity of the father (in some rare cases the mother) is not known so that no judgement can be made as to the status (ilegítimo vs. natural) of the child. I could be wrong, but this is my understanding. I hope I have not confused anybody. Illegitimacy (in Massachusetts where I live) was a term applied to any child born to a single parent. Therefore, we sometimes misapply the term to Portuguese children whose parents, though not married, have no impediments to being married. (filho(a) natural and filho(a) ilegítimo(a) are not synonymous) Today, in Massachusetts, the term illegitimate, no longer appears on a contemporary birth record, though the marital status of the mother (and father, if known) is stated. If the identity of the father is unknown, the space is left blank. Those records are restricted and are only available to the legal guardian of the child (usually the mother, but not always, e.g grandparents, etc., or the State), or to the subject of the registration if he/she is an adult John Miranda Raposo On Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:57 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofth...@ gmail.com wrote: I have had the opportunity to work on lines in the Azores and Southern France (not Portuguese...LOL) I noticed something that made me wonder about terms. In France, there is an equivalent to Pai Incognito. It escapes me at this moment, but it isn't important. It means the same thing that the father is unknown.But, you almost equally see fil naturel or something similar. This means the child was born to an unmarried couple. It is followed by the name of the father and the mother. The father claims his children in this case. I learned from other French researchers that up through the mid 1800s (maybe later), many couples could not afford to pay the necessary fees at the civil and church level. Instead, they set up house and started their family as if they were married. They would save up money and then when they could afford it, they would go do the necessary things to be officially married. In these cases you always saw the children baptized as fil naturel and with the father's name given. It was not an uncommon practice amongst the poor. I have a couple in my tree in the 1780s. It is a little peculiar when you find the baptismals then 5-10 years later you find the marriage. This made me wonder about the Pai Incognitos in the Azorean records that I have found. Was there a similar thing in the Azorean culture? Did couples who were poor start their families without an official marriage or was this something specific to France--or maybe even Southern France where my Dad's line hails from? I really started to wonder about it after working on my cousin's Raposo line. Her great grandmother had at least two children where the father was Pai Incognito and her great great grandmother also had at least two children where the father was Pai Incognito. I don't recall seeing multiple Pai Incognitos in one family, and with mother and daughter, though I guess I haven't really looked that hard since it wasn't in my direct line. Interested to know what others think. I have very little knowledge of Azorean culture during the 1700
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: needed help finding Joao De Sousa
Tyler, I'm referring to your own Sousa ancestors living in Angra.I mentioned they are from Graciosa island. If you are not familiar with the islands, see a map on my website here:http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores/graciosa.htmlBut it shows only Graciosa. To see the spacial relationship between Graciosa, Terceira and Sao Jorge, check this one out:http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores.htmlThese maps are courtesy of Ana Ghia-Pereira of Canada who used to voluntarily maintain my Portuguese Genealogist Masterlist. She did a terrific job with the maps for the entirety of Portugal and her former territories.So in case this is all new to you, you will notice the three islands make up a triangle.But as for reading the records, I don't believe you can't read anything. Sure, you need to build up a vocabulary, but you can read names like João, Maria, José, Francisco de Sousa, right?A helpful tip is to first save the document to your computer and then use another viewer which allows you to zoom in closer than what is allowed while online. In many cases, you can dramatically increase what you can make out. This baptism of your great-grandfather is in great condition and there are no problems to read it once you get the hang of it.If you have other Portuguese lines, you can also mention them. Maybe someone else on the list will also connect to you.Boa sorte primo (good luck, cousin),Doug da Rocha HolmesPico Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: needed help finding Joao De Sousa From: tyler sousa ladis...@gmail.com Date: Thu, July 10, 2014 6:09 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: ladis...@gmail.com how long did you spend in angraOn Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:17:50 PM UTC-4, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:I just confirmed you are related to me in many ways, Tyler.Your Sousa line is from Guadalupe, Graciosa, having spent some years in Angra.One of your maternal branches is from Sao Bartolomeu, Terceira, where everyone is my cousin (with no exaggeration).In fact, you are likely related to 100% of the people on this list who have Terceira ancestors.Were you able to read any of the Calheta document? If so, type it up as best you can and I'll correct it for you, if you like.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: needed help finding Joao De Sousa From: tyler sousa ladi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, July 10, 2014 4:51 pm To: azo...@googlegroups.com oscar is my great grand father and any info you have on francisco de sousa would be very apprecaited all i have of him is a pictureOn Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:25:27 PM UTC-4, tyler sousa wrote:i am trying to find Joao De Sousa on culturacores.azores.gov.pt but am having a hard time because i can not read portuguese.i found him onVillage of Calheta, Sao Jorge baptisms 1900—1911, Image #4 March 1900. with my grandfathers help but he has now become very sick.any help will be veryapprecaited -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
