[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage reocrd - Conceicao, Ribeira Grande, SM

[Lee]

This is the marriage record of Antonio do Rego and Maria Catharina - left 
side page

I need a little help with the parents names.  Mostly confirmation that I 
have it correct.

Married August 4, 1737

He was the Lt?? Antonio do Rego and Maria Luis do Nascimntos??
She was the daughter of Vicente/Nicolao?? da Costa and Maria do Sam Miguel 
(or is that de Sam Miquel?)


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751_item1/P112.html

Thanks!

Lee
Oak Hill WV

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage reocrd - Conceicao, Ribeira Grande, SM

[Cheri Mello]

Groom Antonio is the son of Alferes Antonio do Rego (alferes is military
ranking) and it looks like Maria Luis do Nascimento.

Bride Maria is the daughter of Niculas (shouldn't that be Nicolau?) da
Costa Carneiro and Maria de Sam Miguel.

NOTE:  Enter mother of the bride as Maria de Sao Miguel, with modern
spelling and put the "Sam" stuff in your notes.  Same goes for the
Niculas/Nicolau thing, once someone clears that up.  I've never seen
Niculas, but that's what the record says.

I know that the Costa Carneiros were around the Ponta Garca area.  Did they
originate from there or from Ribeira Grande?  I don't have any direct Costa
Carneiro ancestors but have siblings of my ancestors who married into that
family.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage reocrd - Conceicao, Ribeira Grande, SM

[Pam Santos]

She was the daughter or Nicolau da Costa and Maria do Sam Miguel and
everything else is correct.  Not sure on the Lt part

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Lee  wrote:

> This is the marriage record of Antonio do Rego and Maria Catharina - left
> side page
>
> I need a little help with the parents names.  Mostly confirmation that I
> have it correct.
>
> Married August 4, 1737
>
> He was the Lt?? Antonio do Rego and Maria Luis do Nascimntos??
> She was the daughter of Vicente/Nicolao?? da Costa and Maria do Sam Miguel
> (or is that de Sam Miquel?)
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751_item1/P112.html
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
> Oak Hill WV
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Your Ajudante is mentioned in Rodrigo Rodrigues book!

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

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De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Lee
Enviada: domingo, 9 de Novembro de 2014 00:58
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and 
Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

 

I found it!  Took about 10 minutes.  Thanks, again!  And so far 10 generations 
of direct male de Mello's in my cousins line.

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:44:15 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:

I have noted his marriage on 25 Feb 1805 in my data base. I do not have his 
first marriage. I just checked the record again and I would suggest you look in 
NS Conceicao for his first marriage with Rosa Jacinta because this is the 
parish where she was buried. I would also start looking at 1760 and continue 
forward from that date.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:26 PM
To: azo...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and Ignacio 
Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

 

I'm curious as to whether anyone in the group might have the families of 
Jeronimo Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) or his father Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) 
their databases??  Below is the only information that I have on the two of them:

 

Ignacio Pacheco was married to Roza Jacinta who died before February 25, 1805 
(Ignacio married again on that date to Joanna Roza aged 27, he was aged 63  - 
according to the marriage record Matriz da Estrela, Image #94, right side).

Ignacio and Roza Jacinta are named as paternal grandparents in the baptism of 
Francisco (Pacheco de Mello) son of Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello, 
(http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824_item1/P108.html).
  

 

Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello was married to Roza Jacinta (born 3 January 1779, a 
daughter of Manoel Jose Cabral (Cabral de Mello on  his marriage record 
November 30, 1777) and Jacinta Roza Caetana..  I know from the birth record of 
Jeronimo and Roza's grandson Francisco Pacheco (the 2nd one) de Mello that 
Jeronimo was deceased (Francisco was born February 1853; Rabo de Peixe, (Image 
#60 left side),

 

The main problem that I am having is that I can find no marriage records (yet) 
for either Jeronimo and Roza Jacinta NOR for his parents Ignacio Pacheco (de 
Mello according to 2nd marriage) and Roza Jacinta.  I'm going to go through 
them (marriage's) again for about the 3rd /4th time and see if anything turns 
up (wish there was in index of the marriages like there is of the 
baptisms.sigh).

 

Just need to sound of the frustration of looking for these two.grr

 

Any help/ideas/suggestions appreciated!

 

Lee Estep, 

Oak Hill WV

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho

[Decio Medeiros via Gmail]

Hi John Miranda Raposo,

Search the internet I found this message:

https://www.mail-archive.com/azores@googlegroups.com/msg05202.html

In this old message, dated 14 jan 2010, you mentioned:

* Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to  Maria Velho de Melo.

Would you please check your source (I think is Rodrigo Rodrigues) to see if
there is a second marriage for this Manuel Romeiro Velho.

If positive, please inform the name of his second wife and their children.

Best regards,

Decio Medeiros
Sao Paulo, Brasil

P.S.: My interest is to discover the ancestors of Manoel da Costa Cabral,
which may be (or not) a son of this Manuel Romeiro Velho.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hortencia do Rego Lopes' birth certificate

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

Rick;   I don’t see a connection at this time but; thank you for the info.  Sam 
in Camas, WA






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The marriage record which I believe is for Luis do Rego and Anna Maria is the 
left side of the link 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P8.html
  The Anna Maria’s name may have evolved over the years from Anna Perpetua Rosa.

 

This is about as far back on this family as I have gone but this record says 
they are all from NS Estrela only a more complete study of this family would 
show that.

I would also note the father of Luis is Francisco Moniz so it is possible he 
took his family name from his mother’s side.

 


Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

[Lee]

Thanks Eliseu!  Unfortunately, I don't have access to the book.

I think Corey will like knowing that though - he is a Correctional Officer; 
(where I used to work)  but not sure what his rank is; will have to check 
that.





On Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:57:46 PM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
wrote:

> Your Ajudante is mentioned in Rodrigo Rodrigues book!
>
>  
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *Lee
> *Enviada:* domingo, 9 de Novembro de 2014 00:58
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) 
> and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande
>
>  
>
> I found it!  Took about 10 minutes.  Thanks, again!  And so far 10 
> generations of direct male de Mello's in my cousins line.
>
> On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:44:15 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> wrote:
>
> *I have noted his marriage on 25 Feb 1805 in my data base. I do not have 
> his first marriage. I just checked the record again and I would suggest you 
> look in NS Conceicao for his first marriage with Rosa Jacinta because this 
> is the parish where she was buried. I would also start looking at 1760 and 
> continue forward from that date.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Lee
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:26 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and 
> Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande
>
>  
>
> I'm curious as to whether anyone in the group might have the families of 
> Jeronimo Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) or his father Ignacio Pacheco (de 
> Mello) their databases??  Below is the only information that I have on the 
> two of them:
>
>  
>
> Ignacio Pacheco was married to Roza Jacinta who died before February 25, 
> 1805 (Ignacio married again on that date to Joanna Roza aged 27, he was 
> aged 63  - according to the marriage record Matriz da Estrela, Image #94, 
> right side).
>
> Ignacio and Roza Jacinta are named as paternal grandparents in the baptism 
> of Francisco (Pacheco de Mello) son of Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello, (
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824_item1/P108.html).
>   
>
>
>  
>
> Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello was married to Roza Jacinta (born 3 January 
> 1779, a daughter of Manoel Jose Cabral (Cabral de Mello on  his marriage 
> record November 30, 1777) and Jacinta Roza Caetana..  I know from the birth 
> record of Jeronimo and Roza's grandson Francisco Pacheco (the 2nd one) de 
> Mello that Jeronimo was deceased (Francisco was born February 1853; Rabo de 
> Peixe, (Image #60 left side),
>
>  
>
> The main problem that I am having is that I can find no marriage records 
> (yet) for either Jeronimo and Roza Jacinta NOR for his parents Ignacio 
> Pacheco (de Mello according to 2nd marriage) and Roza Jacinta.  I'm going 
> to go through them (marriage's) again for about the 3rd /4th time and see 
> if anything turns up (wish there was in index of the marriages like there 
> is of the baptisms.sigh).
>
>  
>
> Just need to sound of the frustration of looking for these 
> two.grr
>
>  
>
> Any help/ideas/suggestions appreciated!
>
>  
>
> Lee Estep, 
>
> Oak Hill WV
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

I can get the information. As soon as I go to Biblioteca I will get it for you. 
Would you like to share with me that line?

 

Thank you, :)

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” 

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(   http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Lee
Enviada: domingo, 9 de Novembro de 2014 18:34
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and 
Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

 

Thanks Eliseu!  Unfortunately, I don't have access to the book.

 

I think Corey will like knowing that though - he is a Correctional Officer; 
(where I used to work)  but not sure what his rank is; will have to check that.

 

 

 



On Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:57:46 PM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:

Your Ajudante is mentioned in Rodrigo Rodrigues book!

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” 

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(   http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

De: azo...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
 ] Em nome de Lee
Enviada: domingo, 9 de Novembro de 2014 00:58
Para: azo...@googlegroups.com  
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and 
Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

 

I found it!  Took about 10 minutes.  Thanks, again!  And so far 10 generations 
of direct male de Mello's in my cousins line.

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:44:15 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:

I have noted his marriage on 25 Feb 1805 in my data base. I do not have his 
first marriage. I just checked the record again and I would suggest you look in 
NS Conceicao for his first marriage with Rosa Jacinta because this is the 
parish where she was buried. I would also start looking at 1760 and continue 
forward from that date.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From:   azo...@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lee
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:26 PM
To:   azo...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and Ignacio 
Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

 

I'm curious as to whether anyone in the group might have the families of 
Jeronimo Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) or his father Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) 
their databases??  Below is the only information that I have on the two of them:

 

Ignacio Pacheco was married to Roza Jacinta who died before February 25, 1805 
(Ignacio married again on that date to Joanna Roza aged 27, he was aged 63  - 
according to the marriage record Matriz da Estrela, Image #94, right side).

Ignacio and Roza Jacinta are named as paternal grandparents in the baptism of 
Francisco (Pacheco de Mello) son of Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello, 
(http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824_item1/P108.html).
  

 

Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello was married to Roza Jacinta (born 3 January 1779, a 
daughter of Manoel Jose Cabral (Cabral de Mello on  his marriage record 
November 30, 1777) and Jacinta Roza Caetana..  I know from the birth record of 
Jeronimo and Roza's grandson Francisco Pacheco (the 2nd one) de Mello that 
Jeronimo was deceased (Francisco was born February 1853; Rabo de Peixe, (Image 
#60 left side),

 

The main problem that I am having is that I can find no marriage records (yet) 
for either Jeronimo and Roza Jacinta NOR for his parents Ignacio Pacheco (de 
Mello according to 2nd marriage) and Roza Jacinta.  I'm going to go through 
them (marriage's) again for about the 3rd /4th time and see if anything turns 
up (wish there was in index of the marriages like there is of the 
baptisms.sigh).

 

Just need to sound of the frustration of looking for these two.grr

 

Any help/ideas/suggestions appreciated!

 

Lee Estep, 

Oak Hill WV

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande

[Lee]

Would appreciate it Eliseu and will be happy to share in the family 
information with you.  Will get a report generated and off to you shortly. 
(just have to figure it out - switched over the Legacy 8 and still learning 
it...lol)

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:36:30 PM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> I can get the information. As soon as I go to Biblioteca I will get it for 
> you. Would you like to share with me that line?
>
>  
>
> Thank you, J
>
>  
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *Lee
> *Enviada:* domingo, 9 de Novembro de 2014 18:34
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) 
> and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande
>
>  
>
> Thanks Eliseu!  Unfortunately, I don't have access to the book.
>
>  
>
> I think Corey will like knowing that though - he is a Correctional 
> Officer; (where I used to work)  but not sure what his rank is; will have 
> to check that.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:57:46 PM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
> wrote:
>
> Your Ajudante is mentioned in Rodrigo Rodrigues book!
>
>  
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
> de *Lee
> *Enviada:* domingo, 9 de Novembro de 2014 00:58
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) 
> and Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande
>
>  
>
> I found it!  Took about 10 minutes.  Thanks, again!  And so far 10 
> generations of direct male de Mello's in my cousins line.
>
> On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:44:15 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> wrote:
>
> *I have noted his marriage on 25 Feb 1805 in my data base. I do not have 
> his first marriage. I just checked the record again and I would suggest you 
> look in NS Conceicao for his first marriage with Rosa Jacinta because this 
> is the parish where she was buried. I would also start looking at 1760 and 
> continue forward from that date.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Lee
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:26 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Jeronimno Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) and 
> Ignacio Pacheo (de Mello) - Matriz da Esrela, Ribeira Grande
>
>  
>
> I'm curious as to whether anyone in the group might have the families of 
> Jeronimo Ignacio Pacheco (de Mello) or his father Ignacio Pacheco (de 
> Mello) their databases??  Below is the only information that I have on the 
> two of them:
>
>  
>
> Ignacio Pacheco was married to Roza Jacinta who died before February 25, 
> 1805 (Ignacio married again on that date to Joanna Roza aged 27, he was 
> aged 63  - according to the marriage record Matriz da Estrela, Image #94, 
> right side).
>
> Ignacio and Roza Jacinta are named as paternal grandparents in the baptism 
> of Francisco (Pacheco de Mello) son of Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello, (
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824_item1/P108.html).
>   
>
>
>  
>
> Jeronimo Pacheco de Mello was married to Roza Jacinta (born 3 January 
> 1779, a daughter of Manoel Jose Cabral (Cabral de Mello on  his marriage 
> record November 30, 1777) and Jacinta Roza Caetana..  I know from the birth 
> record of Jeronimo and Roza's grandson Francisco Pacheco (the 2nd one) de 
> Mello that Jeronimo was deceased (Francisco was born February 1853; Rabo de 
> Peixe, (Image #60 left side),
>
>  
>
> The main problem that I am having is that I can find no marriage records 
> (yet) for either Jeronimo and Roza Jacinta NOR for his parents Ignacio 
> Pacheco (de Mello according to 2nd marriage) and Roza Jacinta.  I'm going 
> to go through them (marriage's) again for about the 3rd /4th time and see 
> if anything turns up (wish there was in index of the marriages like there 
> is of the baptisms.sigh).
>
>  
>
> Just need to sound of the frustration of looking for these 
> two.grr
>
>  
>
> Any help/ideas/suggestions appreciated!
>
>  
>
> Lee Estep, 
>
> Oak Hill WV
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Dear Mr. Medeiros:

The source is Rodrigo Rodrigues: 

CAPÍTULO 33.º: DA DESCENDÊNCIA
DE FERNÃO VELHO:  § 8.º N.º6.

No other spouse is mentioned, only the one wife and one child. I hope this 
helps. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

John Miranda Raposo

 



On Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:04 PM, Decio Medeiros via Gmail 
 wrote:
 


Hi John Miranda Raposo,

Search the internet I found this message:

https://www.mail-archive.com/azores@googlegroups.com/msg05202.html

In this old message, dated 14 jan 2010, you mentioned:

* Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to  Maria Velho de Melo.

Would you please check your source (I think is Rodrigo Rodrigues) to see if
there is a second marriage for this Manuel Romeiro Velho.

If positive, please inform the name of his second wife and their children.

Best regards,

Decio Medeiros
Sao Paulo, Brasil

P.S.: My interest is to discover the ancestors of Manoel da Costa Cabral,
which may be (or not) a son of this Manuel Romeiro Velho.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911

[Carolyn M]

 

Roberto,

 

Thank you for that information.  It would be very helpful to me if I could 
find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to Brazil 
in October 1911.  I would think there would be a database somewhere of 
ships and their routes with dates included.

 But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a specific 
date, since I know that already?

 

Carolyn


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho wrote:
>
> I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar.
>
> The archives in Brazil are still being indexed.  But I tried some times 
> read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search function 
> based on names.  Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be indexed.  
> They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were written in the 
> wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be the name you are 
> looking for.
>
> Extra information.  You must search the databases separately on port, Rio 
> de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I 
> believe these were the main ports to arrive.
> By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning 
> lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul).  
> Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to stop 
> in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I 
> don' t know if this is your case).
>
> If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know.  I 
> have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers of 
> the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly 
> Azoreans).  None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting 
> destroyed in bad storage conditions.  I am still trying to organize what I 
> could get.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Roberto Velho. 
>
> On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote:
>>
>> I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships 
>> manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil?
>>
>> My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911, but 
>> I don't know the name of the ship.
>>
>> I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure it 
>> ever got through.  This is my first post, and I want to thank you all for 
>> being here!
>>
>> Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911

[Tish M]

Hi group,
I must have gotten in the middle of this posting. Can someone post the link
to the manifests?
Tish

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Carolyn M  wrote:

> Roberto,
>
>
>
> Thank you for that information.  It would be very helpful to me if I
> could find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to
> Brazil in October 1911.  I would think there would be a database
> somewhere of ships and their routes with dates included.
>
>  But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a specific
> date, since I know that already?
>
>
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho wrote:
>>
>> I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar.
>>
>> The archives in Brazil are still being indexed.  But I tried some times
>> read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search function
>> based on names.  Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be indexed.
>> They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were written in the
>> wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be the name you are
>> looking for.
>>
>> Extra information.  You must search the databases separately on port, Rio
>> de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I
>> believe these were the main ports to arrive.
>> By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning
>> lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul).
>> Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to stop
>> in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I
>> don' t know if this is your case).
>>
>> If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know.  I
>> have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers of
>> the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly
>> Azoreans).  None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting
>> destroyed in bad storage conditions.  I am still trying to organize what I
>> could get.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Roberto Velho.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships
>>> manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil?
>>>
>>> My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911,
>>> but I don't know the name of the ship.
>>>
>>> I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure
>>> it ever got through.  This is my first post, and I want to thank you all
>>> for being here!
>>>
>>> Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Carolyn
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

Hello group;  I’m really having a hard time reading this one.  Top, left side.  
I’m hoping it is the baptism for Joao, son of Jose de Roza Jorge and Maria de 
Jesus.  Paternos:  Manoel de Roza Jorge and Catherina Silveira and Maternos: 
pai incognito and Maria Lourenco


I’m actually trying to locate the baptism of Francisco but; happened upon this 
baptism of what would be my Francisco’s brother.


Any and all help is much appreciated, Sam in Camas, WA






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html

[Cheri Mello]

Sam,

I'd put the URL in the body of the message so people can click on it.  I
can already see it now...someone tries to copy and paste; the miss one
little letter at the beginning or end and they post to the list that URL
doesn't work.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

Ok, will do. Thanks for the help!  Sam






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From: Cheri Mello
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎November‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎09‎ ‎PM
To: Azores Genealogy





Sam,

I'd put the URL in the body of the message so people can click on it.  I can 
already see it now...someone tries to copy and paste; the miss one little 
letter at the beginning or end and they post to the list that URL doesn't work.




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge

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www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html


Hi again, group;  I was advised to put the link in the body of the email so, 
here you go.  Top, left side.  Need help translating.


Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA






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