Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verifying an unusual name: MARTINHO

[JR]

Not unusual. It's typically Portuguese but less common. 

JR

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:21:59 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> Its clearly Martinho and no I havent come across a Mathias in my file ever 
> using Martinho. Martinho (Martin) Mathias (Matthew)
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Maria Lima  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Is this person's name  MARTINHO?  that's  what it clearly looks like to 
>> me but it's the first time I've seen it.  ( It's just too strange)
>>
>> If so, does anyone know if Martinho could have gone by Mathias(?). I was 
>> looking for a Mathias, son of Gaspar de Melo  X Marta de Paiva.  Since I 
>> haven't fond MATHIAS yet, I'm wondering if this is the same person.  I've 
>> found several siblings but no Mathias (yet).
>>
>>
>> Right hand page in the middle of the page
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1703-1712/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1703-1712_item1/P76.html
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Maria Elena
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Any records for Military or Governing?

[Kawika322]

I was wondering if anyone knew if records existed for those who were apppointed 
or became part of the Military or Governing bodies in the Azores?  I have 
severall ancestors who were listed as either Alferes, Saargento, or Capitao, 
primarily from Graciosa, but a few other Islands, and I wanted to see if 
separate records existed for noting those appointments? 

It seems like something that would have been recorded.I know that there are The 
De Genere Papers for the Priests, so maybe there is something similar for the 
Military or other government positions.

I would be interested in the 1700s-1800's but earlier or later would also be 
interesting. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Maybe Joao Ventura or someone else might 
have some insight.


Thanks,

David

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verifying an unusual name: MARTINHO

[luiznoia .]

There is a tradition of naming children on the Saint's day.

November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours,

The first Martinho is baptised on the 16 Nov. The second on 6 Dec


Eric Edgar







On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Maria Lima 
wrote:

> Oh my goodness- I can't believe there was another Martinho on the opposite
> page --even after I thought I've never seen that name before!  Duh!!
>
> I'm embarrassed to admit my Martinho wS on the left page in the center and
> there  just  happened to be another Martinho on the right in the center
> too.  I never even noticed it when I said the link wS the center one on the
> right.  I've  been looking at records all day so I think I was getting
> cross eyed when I said it was the one on the right.   When you said the
> names of the parents were not the ones i cited, then I thought I was going
> nuts- that's when I saw there were 2 martinhos!!
>
> Thank you and I apologize.  I'll keep looking for Mathias!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 25, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Aaron Pereira 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maria
> >
> > The parents of Martinho are Martinho de Souza and Maria Martins...just
> thought I would throw this in there since you were looking for a baptism of
> a child of parents other than what is in the mentioned record.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Link to public records in the Azores

[Mary Bordi]

Depending on the time frame, you may not see the last names you have for
your grandmother and great grandmother. Women were known by their religious
names: Maria de Jesus, Ana do Coraçao de Jesus...

There was an Isidoro family on the California coast at San Gregorio
1900-1910. Some moved to the Santa Clara Valley. I can't recall
seeing Isidoro as a last in the CCA records online but I have seen it as a
first name.

Mary Bordi

On Monday, May 25, 2015,  wrote:

> Could someone please send me a link public records in the Azores that
> would cover the period prior to 1890? I already have  link for baptismal
> and marriage records from the Catholic Churches but I've had no luck
> finding my great grandfather's baptismal record. Likewise I can't find my
> great grandmother's baptismal record. I also cannot find a record of their
> marriage. I have looked at records for several years either side of the
> date I've been give for each of their births but I find nothing. My great
> grandfather's name was Manuel Isidoro Betencourt and my great grandmother's
> name was Josephine Pimentel. I've been told that my great grandfather's
> parents were Jose Isidoro and Anna Betencourt. A document that my great
> grandmother Josephine signed to verify my grandfather's birth in the United
> States (he was not born in a hospital so he had no birthcertificate to get
> a social security card in the 1930's or 1940's) said my great grandfather
> came from Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge and that she also was from Sao Jorge. I
> see no Pimentels in any baptism, marriage, death records for Sao Jorge and
> I don't see any baptismal records that show a Manuel be baptized with
> parents by the name of Isidoro and Betencourt. In fact I don't see any
> Isidoro's any church records anywhere on the island. Are there any other
> records that will help put together my genealogical history of my family. I
> do know that a relative (cousin or brother) of my great grandfather came
> with him to California because my second cousins who stayed in the area say
> they were told that a family by the name of Isadoro (another spelling of
> Isidoro) were their cousins. I've looked them up on Ancestry and was able
> to find some of the family members but they also have no records going back
> to before they emigrated to California. Are there any other records to look
> at in the Azores? Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verifying an unusual name: MARTINHO

[Maria Lima]

JR- The longer I do this work, the more I learn.  Thank you. 

Maria Elena 

> On May 26, 2015, at 8:15 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Not unusual. It's typically Portuguese but less common. 
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:21:59 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>> Its clearly Martinho and no I havent come across a Mathias in my file ever 
>> using Martinho. Martinho (Martin) Mathias (Matthew)
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this person's name  MARTINHO?  that's  what it clearly looks like to me 
>>> but it's the first time I've seen it.  ( It's just too strange)
>>> 
>>> If so, does anyone know if Martinho could have gone by Mathias(?). I was 
>>> looking for a Mathias, son of Gaspar de Melo  X Marta de Paiva.  Since I 
>>> haven't fond MATHIAS yet, I'm wondering if this is the same person.  I've 
>>> found several siblings but no Mathias (yet).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right hand page in the middle of the page
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1703-1712/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1703-1712_item1/P76.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verifying an unusual name: MARTINHO

[Maria Lima]

That makes total sense about naming the children on the saint's day.  They must 
have the same tradition in Cuba because I was given the name of the saint on 
whose day I was born although it was tacked on to my first name.  

Thanks for bringing this to rememberance- 

Maria Elena 

> On May 26, 2015, at 12:36 AM, luiznoia .  wrote:
> 
> There is a tradition of naming children on the Saint's day.
> 
> November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours,
> 
> The first Martinho is baptised on the 16 Nov. The second on 6 Dec 
> 
> 
> Eric Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Oh my goodness- I can't believe there was another Martinho on the opposite 
>> page --even after I thought I've never seen that name before!  Duh!!
>> 
>> I'm embarrassed to admit my Martinho wS on the left page in the center and 
>> there  just  happened to be another Martinho on the right in the center too. 
>>  I never even noticed it when I said the link wS the center one on the 
>> right.  I've  been looking at records all day so I think I was getting cross 
>> eyed when I said it was the one on the right.   When you said the names of 
>> the parents were not the ones i cited, then I thought I was going nuts- 
>> that's when I saw there were 2 martinhos!!
>> 
>> Thank you and I apologize.  I'll keep looking for Mathias!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 25, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Aaron Pereira  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Maria
>> >
>> > The parents of Martinho are Martinho de Souza and Maria Martins...just 
>> > thought I would throw this in there since you were looking for a baptism 
>> > of a child of parents other than what is in the mentioned record.
>> >
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maurício José 00 Umbelina Rosa - Ribeira Grande, São Miguel

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Do you have anything on these:

 

- Maurício José, born about 1793, Rabo de Peixe, Ribeira Grande, São Miguel
died in 27.4.1871 in Porto Formoso. He married to Umbelina Rosa. He was the
sono f Manuel Tavares and Antónia de Jesus

 

Thank you in advance,

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de Oliveira

[Hermano C. Pires]

Thanks Manoel.
And here again we connect :))
Hermano
 
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:00:00 -0700
From: man...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de Oliveira

Eliseu and Hermano,
There’s a mistake in RR’s book.Cap. 152º, §13º, N. 7 – they skipped one 
generation. Cosme de Viveiros is the grandson of Maria Travassos and Sebastião 
de
Oliveira, not the son.His parents are alferes Manuel de Viveiros [Benevides] 
and Maria
Moreira. Data for Cosme de Viveiros, in Capelas:Baptism, b. 20 nov 1721 - CCA 
#78. Padrinhos: Manuel Botelho da Costa,
viúvo, e Maria Travassos de Oliveira, filha de Sebastião da Costa, já falecido,
irmã do pai do batizado.Marriage, 27 dec 1749 - CCA #92 - CM #321. Os 
contraentes foram
dispensados em quarto grau de consanguinidade. - [CM: Carlos Machado in the CCA
site. The information in CM is correct] Cosme de Viveiros is my ancestor 
through the line of my paternal
grandmother Leonira Cosme de Viveiros. 























Manoel César Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 25 de maio de 2015 04:41:15 UTC-3, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva  
escreveu:Thanks Hermano J De: azo...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Hermano C. Pires
Enviada: segunda-feira, 25 de Maio de 2015 02:45
Para: azo...@googlegroups.com
Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de Oliveira 
EliseuWould the Genealogias de Carlos Machado help sort out the RR's 
"mixing"?This line is in Page No. 315 (I don't know the CCA image No.).Cosme de 
Viveiros is #8 (left side, middle).Hope that helps.HermanoFrom: 
eliseu...@gmail.com
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de Oliveira
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 15:24:52 +Does anyone have info on the couple Cosme 
de Viveiros and Ama de Oliveira. They were married December 27th 1749 in 
Capelas, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores. They had João de Viveiros Cosme on 
30.7.1752 in Capelas.It seems like Rodrigo Rodrigo as done some “mixing” on the 
generations… Eliseu Pacheco da Silva“Sharing is one of the most profitable 
human resources” Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo( 
http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maurício José 00 Umbelina Rosa - Ribeira Grande, São Miguel

[JR]

I sent sent you PM, but I believe there is one more Mauricio Jose in Furnas 
circa 1800-1820, if remember correctly.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 1:37:38 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> Do you have anything on these:
>
>  
>
> - Maurício José, born about 1793, Rabo de Peixe, Ribeira Grande, São 
> Miguel died in 27.4.1871 in Porto Formoso. He married to Umbelina Rosa. 
> He was the sono f Manuel Tavares and Antónia de Jesus
>
>  
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
>  
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
>  
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de Oliveira

[mances]

Great, Hermano.

Who is our common ancestor in this line?

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 26 de maio de 2015 18:38:59 UTC-3, Hermano C. Pires 
escreveu:
>
> Thanks Manoel.
> And here again we connect :))
> Hermano
>
>  
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> From: man...@gmail.com 
> To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de 
> Oliveira
>
> Eliseu and Hermano,
>
> There’s a mistake in RR’s book.
>
> Cap. 152º, §13º, N. 7 – they skipped one generation.
>
>  
>
> Cosme de Viveiros is the grandson of Maria Travassos and Sebastião de 
> Oliveira, not the son.
>
> His parents are alferes Manuel de Viveiros [Benevides] and Maria Moreira.
>
>  
>
> Data for Cosme de Viveiros, in Capelas:
>
> Baptism, b. 20 nov 1721 - CCA #78. Padrinhos: Manuel Botelho da Costa, 
> viúvo, e Maria Travassos de Oliveira, filha de Sebastião da Costa, já 
> falecido, irmã do pai do batizado.
>
> Marriage, 27 dec 1749 - CCA #92 - CM #321. Os contraentes foram 
> dispensados em quarto grau de consanguinidade. - [CM: Carlos Machado in the 
> CCA site. The information in CM is correct]
>
>  
>
> Cosme de Viveiros is my ancestor through the line of my paternal 
> grandmother Leonira Cosme de Viveiros.
>
>  
>
> Manoel César Furtado
>
>
>
> Em segunda-feira, 25 de maio de 2015 04:41:15 UTC-3, Eliseu Pacheco da 
> Silva escreveu:
>
> Thanks Hermano J
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
> de *Hermano C. Pires
> *Enviada:* segunda-feira, 25 de Maio de 2015 02:45
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de 
> Oliveira
>
>  
>
> Eliseu
>
> Would the Genealogias de Carlos Machado help sort out the RR's "mixing"?
>
> This line is in Page No. 315 (I don't know the CCA image No.).
>
> Cosme de Viveiros is #8 (left side, middle).
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Hermano
> --
>
> From: eliseu...@gmail.com
> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cosme de Viveiros married to Ana de Oliveira
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 15:24:52 +
>
> Does anyone have info on the couple Cosme de Viveiros and Ama de Oliveira. 
> They were married December 27th 1749 in Capelas, Ponta Delgada, São 
> Miguel, Açores. They had João de Viveiros Cosme on 30.7.1752 in Capelas.
>
> It seems like Rodrigo Rodrigo as done some “mixing” on the generations…
>
>  
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Link to public records in the Azores

[Shirley Allegre]

If you would give us dates and births for your Great Grandparents?  AND about 
when they married in Santa Amaro, Sao Jorge, Azores.  There might be someone 
that might be able to help you.  Do you know where they lived in California?  
My family has been in California since about 1887.  I am still here.

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Link to public records in the Azores


  Could someone please send me a link public records in the Azores that would 
cover the period prior to 1890? I already have  link for baptismal and marriage 
records from the Catholic Churches but I've had no luck finding my great 
grandfather's baptismal record. Likewise I can't find my great grandmother's 
baptismal record. I also cannot find a record of their marriage. I have looked 
at records for several years either side of the date I've been give for each of 
their births but I find nothing. My great grandfather's name was Manuel Isidoro 
Betencourt and my great grandmother's name was Josephine Pimentel. I've been 
told that my great grandfather's parents were Jose Isidoro and Anna Betencourt. 
A document that my great grandmother Josephine signed to verify my 
grandfather's birth in the United States (he was not born in a hospital so he 
had no birthcertificate to get a social security card in the 1930's or 1940's) 
said my great grandfather came from Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge and that she also 
was from Sao Jorge. I see no Pimentels in any baptism, marriage, death records 
for Sao Jorge and I don't see any baptismal records that show a Manuel be 
baptized with parents by the name of Isidoro and Betencourt. In fact I don't 
see any Isidoro's any church records anywhere on the island. Are there any 
other records that will help put together my genealogical history of my family. 
I do know that a relative (cousin or brother) of my great grandfather came with 
him to California because my second cousins who stayed in the area say they 
were told that a family by the name of Isadoro (another spelling of Isidoro) 
were their cousins. I've looked them up on Ancestry and was able to find some 
of the family members but they also have no records going back to before they 
emigrated to California. Are there any other records to look at in the Azores? 
Thanks.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese American Journal

[George Medeiros]

http://portuguese-american-journal.com/first-doctors-graduate-from-the-university-of-the-azores/


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Mountain Observatory Azores

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