RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Branquinho about 1700

[Erica Botelho]

Oh Margaret! How did you remember my request from months ago? I am so 
overwhelmed by this. Thank you!!

I hope I can repay the gift, someday,

Erica

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Vicente
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:06 PM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Branquinho about 1700

 

Erica, have a look, right side.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1708-1724/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1708-1724_item1/P6.html

 

Margaret Vicente

 

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Erica Botelho  
wrote:

I am looking for Manuel da Costa Branquinho who was married to Barbara Pereira. 
I have found four daughters born to them in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada

Antonia  19 August 1709

Antonia   28 Nov 1712

Florencia   1 May 1716

Isabel  11 Sep 1719

I am wondering where the name Branquinho comes from.  If you have that name in 
your tree around that time or earlier, what freguesia does it appear?

Thank you in advance for any replies.

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, WA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Branquinho about 1700

[Margaret Vicente]

Erica, have a look, right side.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1708-1724/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1708-1724_item1/P6.html

Margaret Vicente

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Erica Botelho <
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> I am looking for Manuel da Costa Branquinho who was married to Barbara
> Pereira. I have found four daughters born to them in Sao Roque, Ponta
> Delgada
>
> Antonia  19 August 1709
>
> Antonia   28 Nov 1712
>
> Florencia   1 May 1716
>
> Isabel  11 Sep 1719
>
> I am wondering where the name Branquinho comes from.  If you have that
> name in your tree around that time or earlier, what freguesia does it
> appear?
>
> Thank you in advance for any replies.
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, WA
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MUST READ: What you are allowed to post, personal use, etc

[Tish M]

>From what you are saying I would have to surmise that professional
genealogists would be banned from imparting information to clients from
Ancestry, FHC, CCA or ARM. And further, they would not be able to provide
uploaded copies, either. It's not that I disagree with you, more that I
disagree with their premisses.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Twice in the last week the topic of copyright or personal use has come to
> my attention.
>
> I know as genealogists, we like to help each other. Businesses and
> companies on the other hand are in the business of making money.
>
> *If you are a member of a subscription service*, such as Ancestry, etc,
> you MAY NOT provide a look up from another member and post it here, there,
> or anywhere on the Internet. Again, you MAY NOT post your look ups
> ANYWHERE. You are in violation of your Terms of Agreement with these
> companies where you agreed to use their subscription service for your own
> PERSONAL use. Looking something up for someone and posting it is not for
> YOUR personal use.
>
> *Creating indices from the microfilm at your local Family History Center*
> (FHC): Family Search, which operates the Family History Centers (FHC) made
> agreements with the various governments around the world about fair use of
> their microfilms. Many FHCs now stamp the boxes with verbage telling you
> about using the film for personal use only. Creating an index for an entire
> freguesia and posting for all to use is in violation of PERSONAL USE.
>
> *CCA and Personal Use*: Post the link or URL for YOUR ANCESTOR that you
> need help with. Again, YOUR ANCESTOR. And if you think you have a lot of
> ancestors from a particular freguesia and creating an index would be really
> useful, I'd go find a lawyer who is well versed on international copyright
> and fair use. I wouldn't go around telling the Internet that I have an
> index, if I were you.
>
> *Uploading an individual record*: I was told that the Arquivo Regional de
> Madeira (ARM) will NOT allow the public posting of their records. (Scanning
> it and uploading to a website, forum, or group). I don't have the details
> (perhaps it was considered a "recent" record that is covered under privacy
> laws, perhaps the public posting of the record is not considered personal
> use). I don't know what the CCA thinks about this. Always, always, POST THE
> LINK / URL to the record and that will solve that problem.
>
> I know we like to share and help. But the world is full of laws and
> lawyers and rules and regulations. So be careful out there. I know you have
> the best intentions, but Terms of Service may say otherwise.
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage index

[JR]

Thanks Eliseu!

JR

On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>
> Eliseu, Great Job!
>
> Thank you very much!!!
>
> Margaret Vicente
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
> eliseu...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> Attached you will find an excel book of “some” marriages in Terceira 
>> Island, published in Genealogiafb.blogspot.pt.
>>
>> Hope it helps you on your research…
>>
>>  
>>
>> Muito Obrigado,
>>
>> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva,* “Sharing is the best way of growth”
>>
>> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)*
>>
>> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
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>>  
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>>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] MUST READ: What you are allowed to post, personal use, etc

[Cheri Mello]

Twice in the last week the topic of copyright or personal use has come to
my attention.

I know as genealogists, we like to help each other. Businesses and
companies on the other hand are in the business of making money.

*If you are a member of a subscription service*, such as Ancestry, etc, you
MAY NOT provide a look up from another member and post it here, there, or
anywhere on the Internet. Again, you MAY NOT post your look ups ANYWHERE.
You are in violation of your Terms of Agreement with these companies where
you agreed to use their subscription service for your own PERSONAL use.
Looking something up for someone and posting it is not for YOUR personal
use.

*Creating indices from the microfilm at your local Family History Center*
(FHC): Family Search, which operates the Family History Centers (FHC) made
agreements with the various governments around the world about fair use of
their microfilms. Many FHCs now stamp the boxes with verbage telling you
about using the film for personal use only. Creating an index for an entire
freguesia and posting for all to use is in violation of PERSONAL USE.

*CCA and Personal Use*: Post the link or URL for YOUR ANCESTOR that you
need help with. Again, YOUR ANCESTOR. And if you think you have a lot of
ancestors from a particular freguesia and creating an index would be really
useful, I'd go find a lawyer who is well versed on international copyright
and fair use. I wouldn't go around telling the Internet that I have an
index, if I were you.

*Uploading an individual record*: I was told that the Arquivo Regional de
Madeira (ARM) will NOT allow the public posting of their records. (Scanning
it and uploading to a website, forum, or group). I don't have the details
(perhaps it was considered a "recent" record that is covered under privacy
laws, perhaps the public posting of the record is not considered personal
use). I don't know what the CCA thinks about this. Always, always, POST THE
LINK / URL to the record and that will solve that problem.

I know we like to share and help. But the world is full of laws and lawyers
and rules and regulations. So be careful out there. I know you have the
best intentions, but Terms of Service may say otherwise.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

[George Medeiros]

Thanks for the info on the Portuguese rule of vowel applications. George 
Medeiros

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 2, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Hi Cathy,
> 
> Yes, it is.  I think in order for this to be understood one needs to know the 
> Portuguese rule of vowel applications  (a, e, i, o u) to the consonants.  
> 
> The rule was that when,  as in this case, an S is in between two vowels the 
> phonetics change in that the "S" sound is now pronounced as the "Z" sound, 
> TravaZos.  In order to correct this there was a period where the soft "ç" was 
> being used making it sound the right way i.e. (ss) until they settled it with 
> double SS; TravaSSos.  And, so it is to present day. 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Margaret
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Cathy Bourgeois 
>  wrote:
> So Margaret, is that the same spelling as the one I mentioned (right hand 
> side)? Jose de Sousa Travasos?
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P111.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> Sandra, the letter you're transcribing as (L) one single S, TravaSos.
> 
> Have a look at my ancestor, Amaro Rodrigues Travasos (Travassos) which will 
> illustrate it better for you to see.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1650-1677/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1650-1677_item1/P9.html
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez  wrote:
> I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no marriage 
> found yet).  They had several children.  The first child I found was Maria
> b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.  Her marriage is the only record 
> where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida.  They had a son,Nicolau 
> de Sousa ( my 5th g-grandfather).  Margarida also had a brother named Nicolau 
> de Sousa.  I have always thought that Margarida's father was a Nicolau de 
> Sousa. I found some info on RR that believe may be Sebastiao and Margarida.
> 
> Maria's marriage to Antonio Ferreira 1 Jun 1713--top left.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P23.html
> 
> Margarida's brother, Nicolau de Sousa's death record mentions his 
> brother-in-law, Sebastiao Travalos--top left.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P25.html
> 
> Passage from RR:
> 2)   Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo (N.º 4 § 1.º)
> 
> A 6.4.1742 habilitou-se ao legado de Tomé Alvares de Azevedo na Misericórdia 
> de Ponta Delgada Antónia de Sousa, filha de Manuel de Sousa, moradores em 
> Rosto de Cão demonstrando o seguinte: que a dita habilitada e sua irmã Maria 
> Sousa, casada com António de Sousa e já habilitada em 1738 como parenta em 
> 6.º grau do instituidor eram filhas de Manuel de Sousa e sua mulher Isabel de 
> Sousa, o qual Manuel de Sousa era filho de António Correia e de sua mulher 
> Maria de Sousa ou Leda já habilitada em 1654 e filha de Nicolau de Sousa 
> Azevedo, morador em Rosto de Cão filho de Francisco Lopes Ribeiro e de Ana de 
> Sousa, esta última por seu turno filha de Maria de Azevedo, irmã de Filipa 
> Marques, mãe do instituidor.
> 
> Também aparece como filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo Margarida de Sousa que 
> se habilita em 1684 e já prometida em casamento com Sebastião Travassos filho 
> de Manuel Travassos morador à Calheta de Ponta Delgada. Os atrás citados 
> António Correia e Maria de Sousa são pais de Lourenço de Sousa, morador em 
> Rosto de Cão que do seu casamento com Josefa de Almeida tiveram uma filha 
> Maria de Sousa que em 1734 se habilitou ao referido legado.
> 
>  
> 
> I put in translator website but it was very confusing.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM, mances  wrote:
> You're right. And I wonder ... I think all of us descend from the Travassos 
> line of São Miguel.
> 
> Manoel
> 
> Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 22:18:08 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
> Hi and if I may ad regarding original spelling some priests used the soft "C" 
> or single "S" instead of the double SS.  Travacos, Travasos i/o Travassos. We 
> should take a look at the original.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:55 PM, mances  wrote:
> Sandra,
> 
> There's no Travalos in portuguese. My mother language is portuguese and I 
> have never seen this word.
> 
> Manoel
> 
> 
> Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 20:19:09 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
> Are theses names interchangable?
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

['Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi cousin Manoel,

I thought we might be related since we were researching the same villages. Once 
you go back to the time of the early settlers, it is easier to make connections.

I am a descendant of their daughter Margarida who married Antonio Gonçalves in 
Candelaria May 2, 1652.


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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:04 PM, mances  wrote:
> 
> Altino,
> 
> Barnabé Travassos and Mécia de Sousa are my ancestors too. I descend from 
> their daughter Isabel de Sousa who married Manuel Diniz in Candelária on 13 
> apr 1643 - CCA #55.
> 
> Manoel César Furtado
> 
> Em sábado, 2 de abril de 2016 16:51:51 UTC-3, Altino escreveu:
>> 
>> Sandra, I have a Nicolau de Sous married to Maria Carvalho in 1659 in 
>> Candelaria, Sao Miguel.
>> He is the son of Barnabé Travassos and Mecia de Sousa. (I think your Tavalos 
>> is really Travassos).  Barnabé is my 10th great grandfather.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no 
>>> marriage found yet).  They had several children.  The first child I found 
>>> was Maria
>>> b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.  Her marriage is the only record 
>>> where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida.  They had a 
>>> son,Nicolau de Sousa ( my 5th g-grandfather).  Margarida also had a brother 
>>> named Nicolau de Sousa.  I have always thought that Margarida's father was 
>>> a Nicolau de Sousa. I found some info on RR that believe may be Sebastiao 
>>> and Margarida.
>>> 
>>> Maria's marriage to Antonio Ferreira 1 Jun 1713--top left.
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P23.html
>>> 
>>> Margarida's brother, Nicolau de Sousa's death record mentions his 
>>> brother-in-law, Sebastiao Travalos--top left.
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P25.html
>>> 
>>> Passage from RR:
>>> 2)   Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo (N.º 4 § 1.º)
>>> 
>>> A 6.4.1742 habilitou-se ao legado de Tomé Alvares de Azevedo na 
>>> Misericórdia de Ponta Delgada Antónia de Sousa, filha de Manuel de Sousa, 
>>> moradores em Rosto de Cão demonstrando o seguinte: que a dita habilitada e 
>>> sua irmã Maria Sousa, casada com António de Sousa e já habilitada em 1738 
>>> como parenta em 6.º grau do instituidor eram filhas de Manuel de Sousa e 
>>> sua mulher Isabel de Sousa, o qual Manuel de Sousa era filho de António 
>>> Correia e de sua mulher Maria de Sousa ou Leda já habilitada em 1654 e 
>>> filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo, morador em Rosto de Cão filho de 
>>> Francisco Lopes Ribeiro e de Ana de Sousa, esta última por seu turno filha 
>>> de Maria de Azevedo, irmã de Filipa Marques, mãe do instituidor.
>>> 
>>> Também aparece como filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo Margarida de Sousa 
>>> que se habilita em 1684 e já prometida em casamento com Sebastião Travassos 
>>> filho de Manuel Travassos morador à Calheta de Ponta Delgada. Os atrás 
>>> citados António Correia e Maria de Sousa são pais de Lourenço de Sousa, 
>>> morador em Rosto de Cão que do seu casamento com Josefa de Almeida tiveram 
>>> uma filha Maria de Sousa que em 1734 se habilitou ao referido legado.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I put in translator website but it was very confusing.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Daniel Moniz DOB 1884

[Margaret Vicente]

Laura,

Maria's birth record No. 43
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864_item1/P184.html

Parents marriage record No. 6
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869_item1/P19.html


On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Laura Flanagan 
wrote:

> Do either of you have a date of birth and/or parents of Maria Julia
> Pereira?  She may be connected to a close dna relative.  I would be curious
> to explore that possibility!  :-)
>
>
> On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 3:50:43 PM UTC-4, Theresa Entin wrote:
>>
>> Hi All, I am look for the village of Daniel Moniz.  I have his parent’s
>> names from SS Index Application, but I cannot find Daniel coming into this
>> country.  I check 1900 Passports and he wasn’t there.  It is such an odd
>> name if anyone has it and the village I would be very grateful.  I was able
>> to find his wife Maria Isabella Cabral and do her ancestry.  This is a DNA
>> match to my uncle.
>>
>> MANUEL1  MONIZ was born about 1864 in Sao Miguel, Azores. He married  M
>> ARIA  JULIA  PEREIRA.
>>
>> She was born in Sao Miguel, Azores.
>>
>> Manuel Moniz and Maria Julia Pereira had the following child:
>>
>> 2. i. DANIEL2 MONIZ was born on 18 Feb 1884 in Sao Miguel, Azores. He
>> died in Oct
>>
>> 1944 in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts. He married MARIA ISABELLA C
>> ABRAL.
>>
>> She was born in 1888 in S. Jose de Ponta Delgada Azores. She died in 1921
>> in
>>
>> Somerset, Bristol, Massachusetts. He married MARION L MONIZ. She was born
>>
>> about 1897 in Azores.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage index

[Margaret Vicente]

Eliseu, Great Job!

Thank you very much!!!

Margaret Vicente

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
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> Attached you will find an excel book of “some” marriages in Terceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage index

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Thank you so much!
John Miranda Raposo 

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 Hi 
everybody.Attached you will find an excel book of “some” marriages in Terceira 
Island, published in Genealogiafb.blogspot.pt.Hope it helps you on your 
research…  Muito Obrigado,Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “Sharing is the best way of 
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