[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale through December 31st

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)

Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale is now on! It ends December 31st at 11:59 pm
CST.

NEW ORDERS
(For someone who has never, ever taken ANY DNA test at all)
Y-DNA 37 $139 (Group price is regularly $169)
Y-DNA 67 $229 (Group price is regularly $268)
Y-DNA 111 $319 (Group price is regularly $359)
Big Y $525

mtDNA
MtDNA FMS (Full) $179 (regularly $199)

Family Finder $59 (regularly $79)

BUNDLES (FF=Family Finder)
Y37+FF $188 (regularly $248)
Y67+FF $278 (regularly $347)
Y111+FF $368
mtDNA Full (FMS) +FF $228 (regularly $278)
Y67+FMS+FF $457 (Comprehensive Genome) Regular $546

If you need to place a NEW ORDER because you have never taken a DNA test or
you will be testing a relative for the first time, order here:
Azores: https://goo.gl/qr9d4u
Madeira: https://goo.gl/66ZKfb
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/ugJW84

UPGRADES:
You HAVE ordered before (or ordered for your relative before) and would
like to do a different type of test or want to test more markers.
LOG into the kit. DO NOT USE THE LINKS ABOVE.

Yes, they have the Holiday Rewards with coupons. It will start on Monday.
You can "gift" any unwanted coupons to
gfscherim at gmail.com
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)
>
> The 2016 Holiday Sale with Family Tree DNA began a little over an hour
> ago. They will have coupon codes beginning Monday. I will explain more when
> I get home (can't type well on my cell).
>
> In the meantime, log into your kit to see the sale prices or go to
> www.ftdna.com and type Azores or Madeira into the Surname Seach box. Or
> wait for me to post the links in a few hours.
>
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA administrator, volunteer
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is the significance of the side note.

[Cheri Mello]

There was a certificate issued on that date. No clue what it says on
Florinda's. Wrong link.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] What is the significance of the side note.

[George Sousa]

I would appreciate your help trying to decipher the side note of Antonio's
baptismal record. In other words... what does it say and what does it mean?
I noticed that the same note appears on his wife's baptismal record as well
(I can make out 23 d'Outubro de 1877).

Here is a link to Antonio's...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1844-1846/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1844-1846_item1/P8.html

and here is a link to his wife's (Florinda)...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1844-1846/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1844-1846_item1/P8.html

Thanks in advance

George

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] SS5 Form

[tex61]

I recently ordered a copy of a social security application and I had to provide 
copies of the parents death certificates then they sent me the "UN-REDACTED" 
copy of the social security application.  
Kim Rowe Jenkins 


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5.
 Original message From: Rosemarie Capodicci  
Date: 11/13/16  4:05 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: 
[AZORES-Genealogy] SS5 Form 
For several years now we have been cautioning researchers about how/when to 
order the Social Security SS5 Form. We used to be able to order the form for 
$27 knowing the SS number and $29 without the number. Several years ago (I 
think after 911 especially) the SS Dept. would send you the info but they would 
have the parent's names blacked out and sometimes even the birthdate of the 
person. It looks like in 2015 the SS Dept. made a change and said that if the 
person you are asking for is 120 years or more old that you CAN get the info 
that is on the original form, OR, if the parent's are over 100 but then most of 
the time that's the info we want and may not be able to give! So, look into it 
once again, you can do it online or by mail. to to the link I presented and 
read the article from the Legal Genealogist and it gives you the snailmail 
addy. You can go to Socialsecurity.gov and find the request form online and do 
it that way also. Good luck! 
Here is the link: www.legalgenealogist.com/2013/05/31/ordering-the-ss-5/
Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and 
Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[Cheri Mello]

It's more amusing to mean. It's based in science, but no, it's not helping
me find relatives. Cheri
On Nov 13, 2016 5:50 PM, "robertjm"  wrote:

> Fascinating, albeit probably not really helpful in the long run. Just
> looked at mine and it says I'm 42% Farmer, 43% Hunter-Gatherer with 15%
> Metal Aged-Invader thrown in. I have to admit, I'm jealous for for anyone
> with a higher Metal Aged-Invader stat. ;-)
>
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 4:13:47 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>>
>> I'll be brief as I am at Family Tree DNA's (FTDNA) administrator
>> conference on my cell typing this.
>>
>> If you had the Family Finder test run, you have a new category called
>> "Ancient Origins."
>>
>> You may have learned in history or anthropology that we came from hunter
>> gatherers, farmers, etc. It's now available in your DNA. Log into your DNA
>> page, look under your Family Finder section for the icon with the blue
>> earth.
>> Cheri Mello, FTDNA admin, volunteer
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale through December 31st

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)

The 2016 Holiday Sale with Family Tree DNA began a little over an hour ago.
They will have coupon codes beginning Monday. I will explain more when I
get home (can't type well on my cell).

In the meantime, log into your kit to see the sale prices or go to
www.ftdna.com and type Azores or Madeira into the Surname Seach box. Or
wait for me to post the links in a few hours.

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA administrator, volunteer

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[robertjm]

Fascinating, albeit probably not really helpful in the long run. Just 
looked at mine and it says I'm 42% Farmer, 43% Hunter-Gatherer with 15% 
Metal Aged-Invader thrown in. I have to admit, I'm jealous for for anyone 
with a higher Metal Aged-Invader stat. ;-)


On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 4:13:47 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>
> I'll be brief as I am at Family Tree DNA's (FTDNA) administrator 
> conference on my cell typing this.
>
> If you had the Family Finder test run, you have a new category called 
> "Ancient Origins."
>
> You may have learned in history or anthropology that we came from hunter 
> gatherers, farmers, etc. It's now available in your DNA. Log into your DNA 
> page, look under your Family Finder section for the icon with the blue 
> earth.
> Cheri Mello, FTDNA admin, volunteer
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[Cheri Mello]

I am with Kalani who mainly manages Polynesian/Hawaiian and that's what
they get. Right now, the tool (Ancestral Origins) is mainly European. I
will say more about that when I get home. Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] SS5 Form

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

For several years now we have been cautioning researchers about how/when to
order the Social Security SS5 Form. We used to be able to order the form
for $27 knowing the SS number and $29 without the number. Several years ago
(I think after 911 especially) the SS Dept. would send you the info but
they would have the parent's names blacked out and sometimes even the
birthdate of the person. It looks like in 2015 the SS Dept. made a change
and said that if the person you are asking for is 120 years or more old
that you CAN get the info that is on the original form, OR, if the parent's
are over 100 but then most of the time that's the info we want and may not
be able to give! So, look into it once again, you can do it online or by
mail. to to the link I presented and read the article from the Legal
Genealogist and it gives you the snailmail addy. You can go to
Socialsecurity.gov and find the request form online and do it that way
also. Good luck!

Here is the link: www.legalgenealogist.com/2013/05/31/ordering-the-ss-5/

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, that's the largest block of Non-European I've seen.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:04 PM, TERESA Phillips  wrote:

> And just for a fun comparison, my husband (100% Portuguese father, his
> mother Hawaiian and pia incognito (although strongly looking Portuguese
> based on DNA results) shows:
>
>
> 9% metals, 40% farmer, 31% hunter and 20% non-European
>
>
> His mother:
>
>
> 7% metals, 35% farmer, 24% hunter and 34% non-European
>
>
> Teresa
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[TERESA Phillips]

And just for a fun comparison, my husband (100% Portuguese father, his mother 
Hawaiian and pia incognito (although strongly looking Portuguese based on DNA 
results) shows:


9% metals, 40% farmer, 31% hunter and 20% non-European


His mother:


7% metals, 35% farmer, 24% hunter and 34% non-European


Teresa


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] In search of: Maria Margarida (Costa?) of Sao George

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Mary,I think that I would try to find Manuel J. coming to the USA on the
Passport lists. Maybe even Marie Margarida too in the Angra Passport books.
You may find a fuller name on the parent's. If you are lucky you may even
find the village listed. The only other thing I can think of is to find ALL
of the children of Manuel & Maria M. hoping that they may have listed a
village on one of the birth records. If not there, the Catholic Church
baptismal records for the children.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler 
wrote:

> Hi friends:  I may have sniffed out a new trail on one of my "Mystery
> Maria's" (my GGrandmother).  I know about her marriage and death, *but am
> working on her birth and beyond (if possible)*. Her marriage in Madera CA
> lists her as Mary Souza, and her death in 1903 lists her as being 19 years
> old and having been born in Boston USA.  She was married and known as Mary
> C. Evangelho (married name) by then.  I know from her brother's Social
> Security record that their mother's maiden name was Costa.
>
> So here is my new trail:
>
> *Found birth record for Mary Souza, born Boston USA, 26 OCT 1884.*I
> think this is probably her, age and place fits perfectly, and there were no
> other Maria/Maria Souza's born around that time.
> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-695K-15?i=203=1536925
>
> Record lists her father as Manuel J, from St. Michaels Azores.
> Record lists her mother as  Maria M, from St. George Azores.
>
> *Found Marriage of her parents:  Manuel J and Maria M, married 30 NOV
> 1872, in Boston USA*
> https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?
> count=20=%2Bsurname%3Asouza~%20%2Bmarriage_place%
> 3ABoston~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1872-1872~_id=1469062
>
> Record lists him as Manuel J Souza, age 30, Carpenter.  Born St.
> Michaels Azores, his parents are Manoel and Florinda
> Record lists her as Maria Margarida, age 25.  Born in St. George
> Azores.  Her parents are Joseph and Elizabeth.  (This is where the possible
> Costa surname came from)
>
>
> If anyone has info on Manuel J or Maria Margarida, or their parents -
> please let me know.  I've started searching the St George records for a
> Maria M, born around 1847ish, but have still have a lot of churches to go
> through.
>
> thank you!
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[E. Sharp]

My husband non Portuguese. He is Scot-Irish, German, Dutch, English...12% Metal 
Age Invader, 42% Farmer, 45% Hunter-Gatherer, 0% non-European. 

Sent from my iPhone

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[AZORES-Genealogy] In search of: Maria Margarida (Costa?) of Sao George

[Mary Pimentel Wheeler]

Hi friends:  I may have sniffed out a new trail on one of my "Mystery 
Maria's" (my GGrandmother).  I know about her marriage and death, *but am 
working on her birth and beyond (if possible)*. Her marriage in Madera CA 
lists her as Mary Souza, and her death in 1903 lists her as being 19 years 
old and having been born in Boston USA.  She was married and known as Mary 
C. Evangelho (married name) by then.  I know from her brother's Social 
Security record that their mother's maiden name was Costa.

So here is my new trail:

*Found birth record for Mary Souza, born Boston USA, 26 OCT 1884.*I 
think this is probably her, age and place fits perfectly, and there were no 
other Maria/Maria Souza's born around that time.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-695K-15?i=203=1536925

Record lists her father as Manuel J, from St. Michaels Azores.
Record lists her mother as  Maria M, from St. George Azores.

*Found Marriage of her parents:  Manuel J and Maria M, married 30 NOV 1872, 
in Boston USA*
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20=%2Bsurname%3Asouza~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3ABoston~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1872-1872~_id=1469062

Record lists him as Manuel J Souza, age 30, Carpenter.  Born St. 
Michaels Azores, his parents are Manoel and Florinda
Record lists her as Maria Margarida, age 25.  Born in St. George 
Azores.  Her parents are Joseph and Elizabeth.  (This is where the possible 
Costa surname came from)


If anyone has info on Manuel J or Maria Margarida, or their parents - 
please let me know.  I've started searching the St George records for a 
Maria M, born around 1847ish, but have still have a lot of churches to go 
through.  

thank you!

Mary






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

My cousin, whom is 100% Azorean tested:
6% Metal Age Invader57% Farmer33% Hunter Gatherer5% Non-European
Everyone who has thus far commented has had less Non-European, and more Metal 
Age Invader.  Farmer seems to be the trend like Cheri said very interesting!
Jeremy   

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[Mary Bordi]

My mom, who was half Azorean, a quarter Irish and a quarter Prussian:

12% Metal, 51% Farmer, 37% Hunter Gatherer and 0% Non European.

I am half of what she is combined with my father's Scots Irish, French and
who knows what so I came out:

10% Metal, 49% Farmer, 41% Hunter Gatherer and 0% Non European.

I thought that mixed with my father I might be far different. Interesting.

Mary














On Saturday, November 12, 2016, Cheri Mello  wrote:



(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>
> I'll be brief as I am at Family Tree DNA's (FTDNA) administrator
> conference on my cell typing this.
>
> If you had the Family Finder test run, you have a new category called
> "Ancient Origins."
>
> You may have learned in history or anthropology that we came from hunter
> gatherers, farmers, etc. It's now available in your DNA. Log into your DNA
> page, look under your Family Finder section for the icon with the blue
> earth.
> Cheri Mello, FTDNA admin, volunteer
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[Cathy Bourgeois]

Here's mine:
8% Metal Age Invader, 50% Farmer, 42% Hunter-Gatherer, 0% Non-European.

My maternal grandparents came from Sao Miguel (Mello/Oliveira) and my
paternal grandparents came from England/Ireland (Martin/Breen).

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:15 AM, mances  wrote:

> 7% Metal Age, 58% Farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 2% Non-European
>
> Manoel César Furtado
>
> Paternal grandparents - ilha de São MIguel, Açores
>
> Maternal grandfather - ilha de São Miguel, Açores
> Maternal grandmother - mainland Portugal (Distrito de Viseu)
>
>
> Em domingo, 13 de novembro de 2016 10:45:49 UTC-2, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>>
>> Hmmm, so far it looks as if we are more likely to be farmers if we are of
>> Portuguese descent.
>>
>> Thanks for posting the Armenian son-in-law for contrast, Susan.
>> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[mances]

7% Metal Age, 58% Farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 2% Non-European

Manoel César Furtado

Paternal grandparents - ilha de São MIguel, Açores

Maternal grandfather - ilha de São Miguel, Açores
Maternal grandmother - mainland Portugal (Distrito de Viseu)

Em domingo, 13 de novembro de 2016 10:45:49 UTC-2, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Hmmm, so far it looks as if we are more likely to be farmers if we are of 
> Portuguese descent.
>
> Thanks for posting the Armenian son-in-law for contrast, Susan.
> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[Cheri Mello]

Hmmm, so far it looks as if we are more likely to be farmers if we are of
Portuguese descent.

Thanks for posting the Armenian son-in-law for contrast, Susan.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[MaryAnn Santos]

me - 8% Metal Age Invader, 55% farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 4% non-European

sisterM - 7% Metal Age Invader, 56% farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 4%
non-European

sisterR - 6% Metal Age Invader, 58% farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 3%
non-European

nieceP - 7% Metal Age Invader, 57% farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 3%
non-European

nieceS - 6% Metal Age Invader, 56% farmer, 35% Hunter-Gatherer, 2%
non-European

cousinA - 10% Metal Age Invader, 48% farmer, 40% Hunter-Gatherer, 2%
non-European

cousinJ - 7% Metal Age Invader, 57% farmer, 30% Hunter-Gatherer, 4%
non-European

hus/nieceS - 12% Metal Age Invader, 46% farmer, 42% Hunter-Gatherer, 0%
non-European













On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 3:57 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Me:
>
> 8% Metal, 55% Farmer, 34% Hunter/Gatherer and 3% Non European.
>
> My brother:
> 10% Metal, 55% Farmer, 32% Hunter/Gatherer and 3% Non European.
> Our First Cousin:
>
> 9% Metal, 55% Farmer, 33% Hunter/Gatherer and 3% Non European.
>
> These are all so similar….but as a contrast, my all Armenian ancestry
> son-in-law is:
> 36% Metal, 64% Farmer, 0% Hunter/Gatherer and 0% Non European.
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
>
>  On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
> 15% Metal, 59% Farmer, 24% Hunter/Gatherer and 2% Non European.
> Interesting!
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>>
>> I'll be brief as I am at Family Tree DNA's (FTDNA) administrator
>> conference on my cell typing this.
>>
>> If you had the Family Finder test run, you have a new category called
>> "Ancient Origins."
>>
>> You may have learned in history or anthropology that we came from hunter
>> gatherers, farmers, etc. It's now available in your DNA. Log into your DNA
>> page, look under your Family Finder section for the icon with the blue
>> earth.
>> Cheri Mello, FTDNA admin, volunteer
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Me:
> 8% Metal, 55% Farmer, 34% Hunter/Gatherer and 3% Non European. 
My brother:
10% Metal, 55% Farmer, 32% Hunter/Gatherer and 3% Non European. 
Our First Cousin:
> 9% Metal, 55% Farmer, 33% Hunter/Gatherer and 3% Non European.
These are all so similar….but as a contrast, my all Armenian ancestry 
son-in-law is:
36% Metal, 64% Farmer, 0% Hunter/Gatherer and 0% Non European.

Susan Vargas Murphy
 
>  On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> 15% Metal, 59% Farmer, 24% Hunter/Gatherer and 2% Non European. Interesting! 
> 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
> 
> I'll be brief as I am at Family Tree DNA's (FTDNA) administrator conference 
> on my cell typing this.
> 
> If you had the Family Finder test run, you have a new category called 
> "Ancient Origins."
> 
> You may have learned in history or anthropology that we came from hunter 
> gatherers, farmers, etc. It's now available in your DNA. Log into your DNA 
> page, look under your Family Finder section for the icon with the blue earth.
> Cheri Mello, FTDNA admin, volunteer
> 
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