[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Machado Fagundes and Marianna de Jesus

[Louie Avila]

A little help please ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822_item1/P74.html

On the top left just over the stamp on the first line ... the father of the 
brides name ...

... filha de Joao ? ? (is that Vieira Machado)?

Thanks for looking,
Louie

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Help with the first name

[JR]

Rita- very stylized, large and unconnected- filha de Joam de Andrade 
Lordelo and Antonia do Rozario...

JR

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:23:10 PM UTC-4, George Sousa wrote:
>
> Lately, for some reason I've been encountering names that seem unfamiliar 
> to me. I could use your help with this one (on the left).
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P125.html
>
> What is the child's first name?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> George
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pereira Dutra, Cedros, Faial

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Newport, jerry.rita68 at gmail.com

My grandfather was Francisco Pereira Dutra born in the parish of Santa
Barbara, Village of Cedros, Council of Horta,on the island of Faial in
the Azores February 15, 1880.
My Great grandfather was Joao Pereira Dutra born in Cedros Faial Azores
June 27, 1847.
My Great great grandfather was Antonio Pereira Dutra born in Cedros Faial
Azores February 26, 1807.
My Great great great grandfather was Joao Pereira Dutra born in Cedros
Faial Azores July 27, 1773. Joao married Anna Francisca FURTADO.
Anna Francisca FURTADO was born March 7, 1772 in Cedros Faial Azores.
Anna's father was Manuol FURTADO born in Cedros Faial Azores obviously
before 1772

My grandfather Francisco Periera Dutra emigrated to the United States on
April 19, 1893 aboard the ship VEGA. He worked as a gardener in Newport,
Rhode Island.
This information was assembled by my cousin Joseph F. Dutra, Jr.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

[Cheri Mello]

Repost Donna Sultzer:

Thank you from a newbie, every thing u said is so true about following
those green. I have only been at this for 3 weeks so this is an eye opener.
I am so excited about the Pico, Azores family connection because I love the
ocean and I live in Hawaii so a lot of similarities  someday I hope to
visit. Mahalo  donna

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Don't skip over generations. Work from the known to the unknown. And do
> your lines that have been in America for awhile before tackling your
> immigrant lines. You'll be learning research strategies with the most
> commonly used records that you can eventually apply to an immigrant
> ancestor. Attend classes and workshops. It's not as easy as the
> Ancestry.com commercials lead you to believe. They make it look as if you
> follow some green leaves and Voila! There's your tree. Nope, you'll have
> multiple sources and you'll need to analyzing and deciding which applies to
> you.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Help with the first name

[George Sousa]

Lately, for some reason I've been encountering names that seem unfamiliar
to me. I could use your help with this one (on the left).

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P125.html

What is the child's first name?

Thanks again,

George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

[Cheri Mello]

Don't skip over generations. Work from the known to the unknown. And do
your lines that have been in America for awhile before tackling your
immigrant lines. You'll be learning research strategies with the most
commonly used records that you can eventually apply to an immigrant
ancestor. Attend classes and workshops. It's not as easy as the
Ancestry.com commercials lead you to believe. They make it look as if you
follow some green leaves and Voila! There's your tree. Nope, you'll have
multiple sources and you'll need to analyzing and deciding which applies to
you.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

['Donna Sultzer' via Azores Genealogy]

Lucinda Do Carmo Alvernaz married 3x, hermany Martins (my father Peters real 
dad- Petro) from Pico, Azores.  Emanuel Sousa (died11-7-42) then Frank 
Castellanos. I know you are right and probably should concentrate on my mom and 
dad more and fill in the holes but I was so wanting to find my real grandfather 
. Thank you for helping me , I am so out of my league and didn't realize how 
hard, fun and addicting this is. ❤️

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Donna stated in her first email that she had all that.
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:44 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>> Donna,
>> 
>> I found all her naturalization papers and her ship manifest record coming to 
>> the US. Lots of info on each.
>> 
>> "E"
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Leonardo/Simas family in Humboldt County

[Trisha]

Thank you both!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

[Cheri Mello]

Donna stated in her first email that she had all that.

Cheri Mello
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:44 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Donna,
>
> I found all her naturalization papers and her ship manifest record coming
> to the US. Lots of info on each.
>
> "E"
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

["E" Sharp]

Donna,

I found all her naturalization papers and her ship manifest record coming
to the US. Lots of info on each.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

["E" Sharp]

Donna,

Contact me at my personal email address bellemarco at gmail dot com

I found Lucinda's Petition for Naturalization which has a lot of
Information on it.  Hermany died in 1929 in Portugal (most likely Pico??).

"E"

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:09 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> I forgot to ask, what was Lucinda's maiden name?
>
> "E"
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:08 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> Donna,
>>
>> Lucinda Martins Sousa applied for citizenship ​in the Southern District
>> of New York, District and Circuit Court.
>>
>> "E"
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>>
>>> Donna,
>>>
>>> I have tried to help you but I think this family must have moved between
>>> censuses or ??.  Hermany and Lucinda are in a couple of directories in MA.
>>> Anyhow, in the 1940 census, living in NY, NY and they are listed as Emanuel
>>> Sousa, Lucinda, Dolores born MA about 1925 and Petro born New York about
>>> 1929. Thus far, I have not been able to find them in 1930 census.
>>>
>>> Do you have Dolores (Fall River, Bristol County MA) or Petro's birth
>>> record (NY, NY)?  If not, I would try and obtain them.
>>>
>>> If you have additional info, contact me at my personal email address.
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

["E" Sharp]

I forgot to ask, what was Lucinda's maiden name?

"E"

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:08 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Donna,
>
> Lucinda Martins Sousa applied for citizenship ​in the Southern District
> of New York, District and Circuit Court.
>
> "E"
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> Donna,
>>
>> I have tried to help you but I think this family must have moved between
>> censuses or ??.  Hermany and Lucinda are in a couple of directories in MA.
>> Anyhow, in the 1940 census, living in NY, NY and they are listed as Emanuel
>> Sousa, Lucinda, Dolores born MA about 1925 and Petro born New York about
>> 1929. Thus far, I have not been able to find them in 1930 census.
>>
>> Do you have Dolores (Fall River, Bristol County MA) or Petro's birth
>> record (NY, NY)?  If not, I would try and obtain them.
>>
>> If you have additional info, contact me at my personal email address.
>>
>> "E"
>>
>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

["E" Sharp]

Donna,

Lucinda Martins Sousa applied for citizenship ​in the Southern District of
New York, District and Circuit Court.

"E"


On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Donna,
>
> I have tried to help you but I think this family must have moved between
> censuses or ??.  Hermany and Lucinda are in a couple of directories in MA.
> Anyhow, in the 1940 census, living in NY, NY and they are listed as Emanuel
> Sousa, Lucinda, Dolores born MA about 1925 and Petro born New York about
> 1929. Thus far, I have not been able to find them in 1930 census.
>
> Do you have Dolores (Fall River, Bristol County MA) or Petro's birth
> record (NY, NY)?  If not, I would try and obtain them.
>
> If you have additional info, contact me at my personal email address.
>
> "E"
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

["E" Sharp]

Donna,

I have tried to help you but I think this family must have moved between
censuses or ??.  Hermany and Lucinda are in a couple of directories in MA.
Anyhow, in the 1940 census, living in NY, NY and they are listed as Emanuel
Sousa, Lucinda, Dolores born MA about 1925 and Petro born New York about
1929. Thus far, I have not been able to find them in 1930 census.

Do you have Dolores (Fall River, Bristol County MA) or Petro's birth record
(NY, NY)?  If not, I would try and obtain them.

If you have additional info, contact me at my personal email address.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

['Donna Sultzer' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you, I am very new at this so those sound like great ideas. Have a 
wonderful day.🙂

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Ancestries dot com is not a legitimate site. Or if it is, I doubt that they 
> have anything in the way of good records. The legitimate genealogy web site 
> is Ancestry.com. They run the commercials on TV. You'd probably need the 
> World Membership package to lookup a couple of pieces of information. I'd go 
> to the library and use their Ancestry.com subscription. Then you can just 
> subscribe to the U.S. records membership (or whatever it's called now). You 
> can use that for censuses and stuff on all your lines. It would cost you less 
> money.
> 
> You should find out if there's a genealogy society near you. Then go. They'll 
> have meetings, classes, lecturers. You can also go to your local Church of 
> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (or Mormons) and see if they have a Family 
> History Center (FHC). Not all LDS churches have FHCs so you may have to drive 
> over to the next one. They may offer classes on genealogy as well. Also, go 
> to your public library and check out some books on genealogy. Look over them 
> and the one you like the most - read it. I like Emily Anne Croom's 
> "Unpuzzling Your Past." That one kinda grabbed me. I bought my own copy so I 
> could use it for reference at home.
> 
> And if you have non-immigrant lines, trace them first. Researching immigrant 
> lines is tougher than researching lines that have been in America since 
> George Washington.
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:23 PM, 'Donna Sultzer' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> Thank you, I printed your advice and will try that. I belong to 
>> ancestries.com and If I make the search too narrow I find nothing so thats 
>> when I have to look thru so many records with no results. Sorry I am new at 
>> this. Thank you
>>  
>> aloha,
>>  Donna
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:10 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thousands of records? Which ones? How about if you list the 10 most 
>> pertinent ones and what information you are gleaning from them that are 
>> leading you to believe he is also from Pico. In order for anyone to help 
>> you, you are going to have to show evidence that is pointing you to Pico. 
>> Otherwise, no one will be able to help you. 
>> 
>> And maybe you didn't see my response earlier, but did you do any of this?
>> <> too. She also may have an Alien Registration as well. You can find out more 
>> about the naturalization process on the Azores GenWeb here: 
>> https://goo.gl/vOijK0 (Section 1e- The Immigrant).
>> 
>> You also need to figure out where Lucinda married Hermany and get the 
>> marriage from that church. Not the form that they hand you. What was written 
>> in the book. The same with your dad's baptism and his sister's baptism. You 
>> don't want the church to send you the certificate. You want what is in the 
>> book. They may have stated where they are from to the church and they may 
>> have written that in the book. The certificate doesn't ask for that 
>> information so it won't be stated on the certificate.>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

[Cheri Mello]

Ancestries dot com is not a legitimate site. Or if it is, I doubt that they
have anything in the way of good records. The legitimate genealogy web site
is Ancestry.com. They run the commercials on TV. You'd probably need the
World Membership package to lookup a couple of pieces of information. I'd
go to the library and use their Ancestry.com subscription. Then you can
just subscribe to the U.S. records membership (or whatever it's called
now). You can use that for censuses and stuff on all your lines. It would
cost you less money.

You should find out if there's a genealogy society near you. Then go.
They'll have meetings, classes, lecturers. You can also go to your local
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (or Mormons) and see if they
have a Family History Center (FHC). Not all LDS churches have FHCs so you
may have to drive over to the next one. They may offer classes on genealogy
as well. Also, go to your public library and check out some books on
genealogy. Look over them and the one you like the most - read it. I like
Emily Anne Croom's "Unpuzzling Your Past." That one kinda grabbed me. I
bought my own copy so I could use it for reference at home.

And if you have non-immigrant lines, trace them first. Researching
immigrant lines is tougher than researching lines that have been in America
since George Washington.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:23 PM, 'Donna Sultzer' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you, I printed your advice and will try that. I belong to
> ancestries.com and If I make the search too narrow I find nothing so
> thats when I have to look thru so many records with no results. Sorry I am
> new at this. Thank you
>
> aloha,
>  Donna
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:10 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>
> Thousands of records? Which ones? How about if you list the 10 most
> pertinent ones and what information you are gleaning from them that are
> leading you to believe he is also from Pico. In order for anyone to help
> you, you are going to have to show evidence that is pointing you to Pico.
> Otherwise, no one will be able to help you.
>
> And maybe you didn't see my response earlier, but did you do any of this?
> < Intention too. She also may have an Alien Registration as well. You can
> find out more about the naturalization process on the Azores GenWeb here:
> https://goo.gl/vOijK0 (Section 1e- The Immigrant).
>
> You also need to figure out where Lucinda married Hermany and get the
> marriage from that church. Not the form that they hand you. What was
> written in the book. The same with your dad's baptism and his sister's
> baptism. You don't want the church to send you the certificate. You want
> what is in the book. They may have stated where they are from to the church
> and they may have written that in the book. The certificate doesn't ask for
> that information so it won't be stated on the certificate.>>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need some help again :0)

['Donna Sultzer' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you, I printed your advice and will try that. I belong to ancestries.com 
and If I make the search too narrow I find nothing so thats when I have to look 
thru so many records with no results. Sorry I am new at this. Thank you aloha,  
 Donna 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:10 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
 

 Thousands of records? Which ones? How about if you list the 10 most pertinent 
ones and what information you are gleaning from them that are leading you to 
believe he is also from Pico. In order for anyone to help you, you are going to 
have to show evidence that is pointing you to Pico. Otherwise, no one will be 
able to help you. 

And maybe you didn't see my response earlier, but did you do any of this?
>
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo/Simas family in Humboldt County

[Kathy Cardoza]

Trisha

I agree with Cheri in that the passports are a great place to start for you. 
You have an approximate date so if you find your ancestor, the records from 
that time generally include where they were from as well as parents. It will be 
a great clue to guide you to the appropriate church records.

Good luck and happy hunting!
Kathy
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> On Mar 21, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Trisha,
> 
> You have names and dates, but you need the freguesia (village) over there to 
> begin your search. 
> Here's a how to from the Azores Genweb of ideas on how to find your 
> freguesia: https://goo.gl/vOijK0 
> 
> Since their names a little different, you *might* be able to find the 
> outbound from the Azores on the "Passaportes." You have "about" dates. So 
> start there, and then search a year before and then a year after. Then keep 
> expanding. You want to look in the port of Angra:
> http://tombo.pt/en/d/acores 
> 
> Good luck, Cheri
> 
> 
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Trisha  > wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I have been working on my genealogy for quite some time. My family from the 
> Azores is a complete brick wall. Here is what I know:
> 
> My great grandpa was Frank Joseph Leonardo (Possibly Francisco Jose) b. 1889 
> in Terceira. He emigrated in abt. 1909.
> 
> He married:
> 
> Emelia (census says Amelia) Gertrude Simas b. 1894 in Terceira. She emigrated 
> in about 1913.
> 
> 
> Besides that, I really have zero information on them. Franks mothers maiden 
> name may have been Goncalves. I have found census info for a "Amancio 
> Golcalves Leonardo" who I believe may be Franks older brother. 
> 
> Emelia's mothers maiden name may be Brito.
> 
> 
> Anyone know of what I should be looking? I'm so lost here. 
> 
> 
> 
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