Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

[Margaret Vicente]

It looks like you found your Lucinda. The birth record for 1881 is the
correct person the father is Miguel de Arruda and the mother is Maria Julia
Ferreira.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P60.html

Going to America in 1911.  Her age at the time was 29 and she was Married.
The writing is very tiny but readable.  Please see # 484
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1910-1911/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1910-1911_item1/P81.html




On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:41 PM, JR  wrote:

> Although, you specified Ribeirinha, you should know Aveiro's can be found
> in Ribeira Seca, which like Ribeirinha can be found in Ribeira Grande. The
> point is, sometimes people moved around even though they would list only
> one freguesia as their native place.  Your Lucinda may be in one of the
> four or five freguesias around Ribeira Grande.
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:10:46 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel
> wrote:
>>
>> *I searched the obits and did not find anything on this Lucinda. So I
>> would put her in the mix. The problem I see is this would put her age off
>> from the 1920 census which says she was 37. This would make her 39 off by
>> two years, not necessarily a deal breaker but enough to try and find more
>> evidence. What is the complete snippit with the three names? Can you link
>> the whole thing? The problem with that is the name is Manuel instead of
>> Miguel as on this latest Lucinda record.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Cheryle Dougherty
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:35 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard look on your baptism data base and look at 1881 #16.  There is a
>> Lucinda with parents Miguel Arruda and Maria Julia Feriera.  I haven't
>> figured out the rest yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>> rfrancis...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> *Ok I did a search of the obits 1883 through 1887 and found the deaths of
>> two of the Lucinda’s, That leaves one born on 3 Feb 1884 daughter of
>> Francisco Jose Raposo and Rosa de Jesus. (CCA 1884 #0010)*
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Richard Francis Pimentel
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:14 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>>
>>
>>
>> *To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883:
>>  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html
>> 
>>   This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in
>> all three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The
>> next step is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and
>> eliminate any of them.  Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best.
>> Somehow I feel uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father.  *
>>
>>
>>
>> *I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only
>> one Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at
>> all the births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this
>> couple.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Epping, NH*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
>> Of *Richard Francis Pimentel
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger
>> not the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers).*
>>
>>
>>
>> *I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio
>> came to the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912.  Is there a way you can
>> show the complete record of the snippit you show below? *
>>
>> *The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have
>> shown us so far.  Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel
>> Arruda to Lucinda  I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the
>> two Lucinda’s we have found in the records for 1884. *
>>
>> *Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the
>> last name of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one
>> of the two Lucinda’s*
>>
>>
>>
>> *At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the
>> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on ethnic profile

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, you are correct. It has to do with their sample populations that you
are compared against, so everyone will have different percentages at the
different companies.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:42 PM, George Medeiros 
wrote:

> I had my autosomal DNA done with Ancestry DNA and Family Tree.
> The ethnic profiles have similarities but the percentages are different.
> In Family Tree I have 0 % for some ethnic groups that I have trace amounts
> and / or larger percentages in Ancestry DNA.I am certain I am part of a few
> ethnic groups that Family Tree says I have < 2% while Ancestry says the
> range is from 2% to 4 %. Can anyone explain this to me ? Does this have to
> do with the control groups used to determine the ethnic profiles? George
> Medeiros
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: [IslandRoutes] RE: [PT-MADEIRA] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, it looks like the geneticists children programmed the estimates. From
what I hear, *many* people are not happy and find them even less accurate
than before.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Donald Rodrigues 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> FamilyTreeDNA ethnicity estimates follow. My paternal grandmother was
> Portuguese, born on Madeira; as were her parents and her parent’s parents. The
> family was dirt poor and lived for generations in a remote hamlet in the
> countryside, seemingly far away from the influence of outsiders . My
> paternal grandfather was the son of a Spaniard from the Canary Islands.
> His wife, my great grandmother, was a Portuguese woman from Madeira, whose
> family similarly originated from a remote hamlet where her ancestors had
> lived for generations. One would think that these folks would contribute at
> least some percentage of Spanish/Portuguese ancestry, yet the Ethnicity
> estimate shows ZERO Iberian ancestry. It’s hard to make sense of this!
>
> Donald Rodrigues
>
> Old FTDNA Ethnicity EstimateNew FTDNA
> Ethnicity Estimate
>
> European99 * European   *
> 90
>
> Southern Europe 48  Iberia
> 0
>
> Western & Central Europe36
> Western & Central Europe76
>
> British Isles   8   British Isles
> 14
>
> Finland & Northern Siberia  4
> Finland < 2
>
> Eastern Europe  3   Eastern Europe
> 0
>
> South East Europe
> < 2
>
>* Middle Eastern *
> 5
>
> North African
> 5
>
> West Middle East
> < 2
>
> African 2  * African* 0
>
> West Africa 2   West Africa
> < 2
>
> South Central Africa
> < 2
>
> East Central Africa
> 0
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PRT-MADEIRA [mailto:prt-madeira-bounces+drodrigues=pacbell.net@
> rootsweb.com ]
> On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:47 AM
> To: Azores Genealogy; prt-made...@rootsweb.com;
> islandrou...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
> interesting tool.
>
> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>
> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
> Admin (volunteer) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen
>
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Groupon

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, I announced that a couple of weeks ago. It's still going on.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:23 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Groupon has FTDNA Family Finder for $59  plus 12.95 shipping and $1 fee.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

[JR]

Although, you specified Ribeirinha, you should know Aveiro's can be found 
in Ribeira Seca, which like Ribeirinha can be found in Ribeira Grande. The 
point is, sometimes people moved around even though they would list only 
one freguesia as their native place.  Your Lucinda may be in one of the 
four or five freguesias around Ribeira Grande.

JR

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:10:46 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:
>
> *I searched the obits and did not find anything on this Lucinda. So I 
> would put her in the mix. The problem I see is this would put her age off 
> from the 1920 census which says she was 37. This would make her 39 off by 
> two years, not necessarily a deal breaker but enough to try and find more 
> evidence. What is the complete snippit with the three names? Can you link 
> the whole thing? The problem with that is the name is Manuel instead of 
> Miguel as on this latest Lucinda record.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Cheryle Dougherty
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:35 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>  
>
> Richard look on your baptism data base and look at 1881 #16.  There is a 
> Lucinda with parents Miguel Arruda and Maria Julia Feriera.  I haven't 
> figured out the rest yet.
>
>  
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rfrancis...@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> *Ok I did a search of the obits 1883 through 1887 and found the deaths of 
> two of the Lucinda’s, That leaves one born on 3 Feb 1884 daughter of 
> Francisco Jose Raposo and Rosa de Jesus. (CCA 1884 #0010)*
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Francis 
> Pimentel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:14 AM
>
>
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>  
>
> *To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883:  
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html
>  
> 
>  
>   This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in 
> all three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The 
> next step is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and 
> eliminate any of them.  Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best. 
> Somehow I feel uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father.  *
>
>  
>
> *I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only 
> one Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at 
> all the births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this 
> couple.*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto...@googlegroups.com 
> ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Francis Pimentel
> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>  
>
> *Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger 
> not the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers).*
>
>  
>
> *I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio 
> came to the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912.  Is there a way you can 
> show the complete record of the snippit you show below? *
>
> *The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have 
> shown us so far.  Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel 
> Arruda to Lucinda  I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the 
> two Lucinda’s we have found in the records for 1884. *
>
> *Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the last 
> name of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one of the 
> two Lucinda’s*
>
>  
>
> *At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the 
> Romanic in 1911. The Romanic  last arrived in NY in Nov of 1910. Was this 
> the port she arrived at? *
>
>  
>
> *I have to go back and see if the census says anything about when she 
> married. If she was single when she arrived in the US then she could have 
> married in Attleboro. If she married in the Acores then it must have been 
> after 1905.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto...@googlegroups.com 
> ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 10:08 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>  
>
> Father Manuel Arruda, Ribeirinha
>
> 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I searched the obits and did not find anything on this Lucinda. So I would put 
her in the mix. The problem I see is this would put her age off from the 1920 
census which says she was 37. This would make her 39 off by two years, not 
necessarily a deal breaker but enough to try and find more evidence. What is 
the complete snippit with the three names? Can you link the whole thing? The 
problem with that is the name is Manuel instead of Miguel as on this latest 
Lucinda record.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryle Dougherty
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Richard look on your baptism data base and look at 1881 #16.  There is a 
Lucinda with parents Miguel Arruda and Maria Julia Feriera.  I haven't figured 
out the rest yet.

 

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Ok I did a search of the obits 1883 through 1887 and found the deaths of two of 
the Lucinda’s, That leaves one born on 3 Feb 1884 daughter of Francisco Jose 
Raposo and Rosa de Jesus. (CCA 1884 #0010)

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:14 AM


To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883:   
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html
   This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in all 
three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The next step 
is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and eliminate any 
of them.  Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best. Somehow I feel 
uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father.  

 

I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only one 
Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at all the 
births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this couple.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger not 
the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers).

 

I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio came to 
the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912.  Is there a way you can show the 
complete record of the snippit you show below? 

The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have shown us 
so far.  Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel Arruda to 
Lucinda  I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the two Lucinda’s 
we have found in the records for 1884. 

Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the last name 
of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one of the two 
Lucinda’s

 

At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the Romanic in 
1911. The Romanic  last arrived in NY in Nov of 1910. Was this the port she 
arrived at? 

 

I have to go back and see if the census says anything about when she married. 
If she was single when she arrived in the US then she could have married in 
Attleboro. If she married in the Acores then it must have been after 1905.

 

Rick

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 10:08 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Father Manuel Arruda, Ribeirinha

Father Alexandre M. Caral, Urselina

Father Jose C. Pacheco




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cheryle Dougherty  
wrote:

Ok, back to the records again.  Here is where I got the name Manuel Arruba for 
her father's name.  This was on the same line as her name in ship log.  She is 
listed as Lucinda Pachaco Averio and her friend that she is coming to is 
Honerio Pacheco Averio (my uncle) It is the first line.  Maybe you might come 
up with a different name.  This was on ancestry.

 

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I will have to do it latter. I am on my way out for a meeting. 

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryle Dougherty
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Richard look on your baptism data base and look at 1881 #16.  There is a 
Lucinda with parents Miguel Arruda and Maria Julia Feriera.  I haven't figured 
out the rest yet.

 

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Ok I did a search of the obits 1883 through 1887 and found the deaths of two of 
the Lucinda’s, That leaves one born on 3 Feb 1884 daughter of Francisco Jose 
Raposo and Rosa de Jesus. (CCA 1884 #0010)

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:14 AM


To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883:   
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html
   This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in all 
three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The next step 
is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and eliminate any 
of them.  Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best. Somehow I feel 
uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father.  

 

I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only one 
Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at all the 
births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this couple.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger not 
the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers).

 

I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio came to 
the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912.  Is there a way you can show the 
complete record of the snippit you show below? 

The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have shown us 
so far.  Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel Arruda to 
Lucinda  I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the two Lucinda’s 
we have found in the records for 1884. 

Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the last name 
of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one of the two 
Lucinda’s

 

At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the Romanic in 
1911. The Romanic  last arrived in NY in Nov of 1910. Was this the port she 
arrived at? 

 

I have to go back and see if the census says anything about when she married. 
If she was single when she arrived in the US then she could have married in 
Attleboro. If she married in the Acores then it must have been after 1905.

 

Rick

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 10:08 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Father Manuel Arruda, Ribeirinha

Father Alexandre M. Caral, Urselina

Father Jose C. Pacheco




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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cheryle Dougherty  
wrote:

Ok, back to the records again.  Here is where I got the name Manuel Arruba for 
her father's name.  This was on the same line as her name in ship log.  She is 
listed as Lucinda Pachaco Averio and her friend that she is coming to is 
Honerio Pacheco Averio (my uncle) It is the first line.  Maybe you might come 
up with a different name.  This was on ancestry.

 

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

[Cheryle Dougherty]

Richard look on your baptism data base and look at 1881 #16.  There is a
Lucinda with parents Miguel Arruda and Maria Julia Feriera.  I haven't
figured out the rest yet.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

> *Ok I did a search of the obits 1883 through 1887 and found the deaths of
> two of the Lucinda’s, That leaves one born on 3 Feb 1884 daughter of
> Francisco Jose Raposo and Rosa de Jesus. (CCA 1884 #0010)*
>
> * Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Francis Pimentel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:14 AM
>
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>
>
> *To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883:
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html
> 
>   This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in
> all three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The
> next step is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and
> eliminate any of them.  Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best.
> Somehow I feel uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father.  *
>
>
>
> *I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only
> one Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at
> all the births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this
> couple.*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Francis Pimentel
> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>
>
> *Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger
> not the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers).*
>
>
>
> *I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio
> came to the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912.  Is there a way you can
> show the complete record of the snippit you show below? *
>
> *The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have
> shown us so far.  Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel
> Arruda to Lucinda  I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the
> two Lucinda’s we have found in the records for 1884. *
>
> *Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the last
> name of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one of the
> two Lucinda’s*
>
>
>
> *At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the
> Romanic in 1911. The Romanic  last arrived in NY in Nov of 1910. Was this
> the port she arrived at? *
>
>
>
> *I have to go back and see if the census says anything about when she
> married. If she was single when she arrived in the US then she could have
> married in Attleboro. If she married in the Acores then it must have been
> after 1905.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 10:08 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)
>
>
>
> Father Manuel Arruda, Ribeirinha
>
> Father Alexandre M. Caral, Urselina
>
> Father Jose C. Pacheco
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cheryle Dougherty <
> doughertychery...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, back to the records again.  Here is where I got the name Manuel Arruba
> for her father's name.  This was on the same line as her name in ship log.
> She is listed as Lucinda Pachaco Averio and her friend that she is coming
> to is Honerio Pacheco Averio (my uncle) It is the first line.  Maybe you
> might come up with a different name.  This was on ancestry.
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Image may contain: text]
> 
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yep, that seems about right!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yeah, the last time I checked 12 + 16 = 28% (my parents' Iberian, of which
> my mother has none). So even if I didn't get half of my dad's (6%) or half
> my mom's (8%) due to the random nature, there's still no way for me to get
> to 33%. I don't know, maybe we should start calling this one the
> "alternative" estimates! LOL
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm still laughing!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> I know that with version 2, there was a huge delay. France kept gobbling
>>> up most of Europe. They had to keep working with the programming, and
>>> working with the programming, to get it to work. I don't know what the
>>> story is with this one, but it'll come out eventually.
>>>
>>> Here's how I stack up against my dad (50% American stuff (mostly British
>>> Isles & 50% Azorean), my mom (mostly Scotch-Irish with some German, French,
>>> and Swiss), and me, who should be a combo. Just don't read this while
>>> eating lunch or dinner or you may spit your meal out when you start
>>> laughing!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, the last time I checked 12 + 16 = 28% (my parents' Iberian, of which
my mother has none). So even if I didn't get half of my dad's (6%) or half
my mom's (8%) due to the random nature, there's still no way for me to get
to 33%. I don't know, maybe we should start calling this one the
"alternative" estimates! LOL

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> I'm still laughing!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I know that with version 2, there was a huge delay. France kept gobbling
>> up most of Europe. They had to keep working with the programming, and
>> working with the programming, to get it to work. I don't know what the
>> story is with this one, but it'll come out eventually.
>>
>> Here's how I stack up against my dad (50% American stuff (mostly British
>> Isles & 50% Azorean), my mom (mostly Scotch-Irish with some German, French,
>> and Swiss), and me, who should be a combo. Just don't read this while
>> eating lunch or dinner or you may spit your meal out when you start
>> laughing!
>> [image: Inline image 1]
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[MaryAnn Santos]

Me too!

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> I'm still laughing!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I know that with version 2, there was a huge delay. France kept gobbling
>> up most of Europe. They had to keep working with the programming, and
>> working with the programming, to get it to work. I don't know what the
>> story is with this one, but it'll come out eventually.
>>
>> Here's how I stack up against my dad (50% American stuff (mostly British
>> Isles & 50% Azorean), my mom (mostly Scotch-Irish with some German, French,
>> and Swiss), and me, who should be a combo. Just don't read this while
>> eating lunch or dinner or you may spit your meal out when you start
>> laughing!
>> [image: Inline image 1]
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I'm still laughing!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I know that with version 2, there was a huge delay. France kept gobbling
> up most of Europe. They had to keep working with the programming, and
> working with the programming, to get it to work. I don't know what the
> story is with this one, but it'll come out eventually.
>
> Here's how I stack up against my dad (50% American stuff (mostly British
> Isles & 50% Azorean), my mom (mostly Scotch-Irish with some German, French,
> and Swiss), and me, who should be a combo. Just don't read this while
> eating lunch or dinner or you may spit your meal out when you start
> laughing!
> [image: Inline image 1]
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

I know that with version 2, there was a huge delay. France kept gobbling up
most of Europe. They had to keep working with the programming, and working
with the programming, to get it to work. I don't know what the story is
with this one, but it'll come out eventually.

Here's how I stack up against my dad (50% American stuff (mostly British
Isles & 50% Azorean), my mom (mostly Scotch-Irish with some German, French,
and Swiss), and me, who should be a combo. Just don't read this while
eating lunch or dinner or you may spit your meal out when you start
laughing!
[image: Inline image 1]

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rezendes, Ponta Delgada - trying to track down source of US citizenship grant

[diane rezendes]

hi, Marsha.

yes, too funny! where in Arlington?  could be more synchroncity... by the
way, 4 Waldo Ave, being on a corner, was also 57 Dimick Street.  (If you
want any photos, I'm sure I have a few I could send your way...

my mom didn't recognize your grandparents' name, but it would have been
before her time -- still, you never know.

all the best,
di

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:00 PM, M. Stringer  wrote:

> Hi Di,
>
>
>
> Yet more similarities.
>
>
>
> I know my mother spoke of Waldo Avenue frequently, but they were
> apparently there only a few years: after a 1923 directory (Beacon St) –
> down the street by the 1930 Census (Dimick St).  By 1933 they too were in
> Arlington - until the early 1950s, after my grandfather’s death.
>
>
>
> When a cousin visited a few years ago went on a photo excursion – finding
> and photographing family places.  It’s been a while and I’m not sure if I
> captured Waldo Ave.
>
>
>
> Marsha Stringer
>
> strin...@mstringer.net
>
>
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Di
> *Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 6:25 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rezendes, Ponta Delgada - trying to
> track down source of US citizenship grant
>
>
>
> hi, Marsha.
>
>
>
> oh my goodness! that is so cool!!  my avos lived on the second floor, and
> my Dad grew up in that house.  ...when we were little, my sisters & i, with
> our parents, lived on the third floor of that very house. have you ever
> seen the house?  i will mention it to my mom when i talk to her later on
> today; maybe she knows your grandparents...?
>
>
>
> (sometimes when i reflect on it, i'm amazed to think about how people
> move: my Avó & Avô came all the way from the Azores to live in
> Somerville...  my mom's parents came all the way from Ireland... and then
> when my own mom & dad decided to move, it was all of *four miles* to
> Arlington.)
>
>
>
> all the best,
>
> di
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Nelia, it would be interesting. I've always known by our matches that my
brother received more Portuguese and I the Italian but this is a big
surprise to see British Isles!

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Nelia DiBiase 
wrote:

> Ohhh, that's so interesting. I should have my daughters DNA done as they
> are half and half.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)
>>
>> For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know
>> of anyone who is half Greek)
>>
>> I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is it
>> saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe? (Then
>> probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
>> Portuguese?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

Oh, yes, I should check myself, since my dad is no longer 50% British Isles
and half Portuguese.
Me:
[image: Inline image 1]
My mom who is NOT Portuguese
[image: Inline image 2]
Ha ha ha ha ha. Maybe that's where her "Native American" story comes from!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> Well, I show 0% Iberian but I am only one quarter Azprean.
>
> My mom, who is half Azorean, shows up as 11% Iberian. And 12% Sephardic.
> She is also British Isles and East Europe and West and Central Europe
> (Irish And Prussian Grandparents on the non Portuguese side so not
> surprising).
>
> Mary
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:47 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>>
>> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
>> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
>> interesting tool.
>>
>> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
>> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
>> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
>> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
>> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
>> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
>> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
>> Admin (volunteer)
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Mary Bordi]

Well, I show 0% Iberian but I am only one quarter Azprean.

My mom, who is half Azorean, shows up as 11% Iberian. And 12% Sephardic.
She is also British Isles and East Europe and West and Central Europe
(Irish And Prussian Grandparents on the non Portuguese side so not
surprising).

Mary


On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:47 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
> interesting tool.
>
> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>
> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[Nelia DiBiase]

Ohhh, that's so interesting. I should have my daughters DNA done as they
are half and half.


On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)
>
> For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know
> of anyone who is half Greek)
>
> I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is it
> saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe? (Then
> probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
> Portuguese?
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[MaryAnn Santos]

I'm having a major identity crisis now

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Sorry, I wasn't clear. I need that sidebar, not the map, as that doesn't
> give me the percentages.
>
> The chatter in the DNA groups seems to be that people are disappointed.
>
> Cheri Mello
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>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> OK, don't know how to do a screen shot so I snipped it. Top one is mine,
>> bottom my brother. We are FULL sibs and half Italian, half Portuguese.
>>
>> Rosemarie
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>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> (Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)
>>>
>>> For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know
>>> of anyone who is half Greek)
>>>
>>> I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is
>>> it saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe?
>>> (Then probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
>>> Portuguese?
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[E. Sharp]

Does back to Step 1 ring any bells??  I didn’t understand it before, I don’t 
understand it now, and I probably will never understand it……but……I keep trying 
and I hope they do, too!!

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[Cheri Mello]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I need that sidebar, not the map, as that doesn't
give me the percentages.

The chatter in the DNA groups seems to be that people are disappointed.

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> OK, don't know how to do a screen shot so I snipped it. Top one is mine,
> bottom my brother. We are FULL sibs and half Italian, half Portuguese.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)
>>
>> For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know
>> of anyone who is half Greek)
>>
>> I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is it
>> saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe? (Then
>> probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
>> Portuguese?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Also, Sal is showing 30% Iberian and I'm showing "0"! Nutso. I'm showing
the little bit Sephardic and he's showing none.

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)
>
> For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know
> of anyone who is half Greek)
>
> I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is it
> saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe? (Then
> probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
> Portuguese?
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

OK, don't know how to do a screen shot so I snipped it. Top one is mine,
bottom my brother. We are FULL sibs and half Italian, half Portuguese.

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)
>
> For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know
> of anyone who is half Greek)
>
> I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is it
> saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe? (Then
> probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
> Portuguese?
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted again)

Sephardic will show up blue...
[image: Inline image 1]

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Mine and my brother's is quite different also. I've got a lot of Middle
> East, East Africa(which I didn't show before) and, of course, lot's of
> Europe (East, Southern) and my brother shows the British Isles which I show
> none and he didn't show that before at all! I don't show a lot of Portugal
> but lots of Spain/France. I'm half Portuguese and half Italian. My brother
> is a full sibling! We had more in common with the old 'origins' than now!
> Crazy.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Yep, my dad mostly rolled over to Central Europe too. I'm aware of the
>> French and Flemish influence, but it doesn't seem like it should be that
>> high. I can't find the white paper on it either. Like I said, call them
>> ESTIMATES. Seems like they are going a step backward, into "cocktail party
>> conversation" instead of a step forward into science. I'll post the White
>> Paper when I find it or when it's released.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think this is accurate - based on this new version I have
>>> absolutely no Portuguese. I find that very hard to believe - both of my
>>> parents were Portuguese. My mother's family from São Miguel, Açores goes
>>> back to the late 1500s. My father is from Moimenta da Beira area of
>>> Portugal. I can trace back only to the early 1800s.
>>>
>>> MaryAnn
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)

 For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
 they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
 interesting tool.

 Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
 Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
 Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
 western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
 and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
 Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
 gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.

 It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree
 DNA Admin (volunteer)
 Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Mine and my brother's is quite different also. I've got a lot of Middle
East, East Africa(which I didn't show before) and, of course, lot's of
Europe (East, Southern) and my brother shows the British Isles which I show
none and he didn't show that before at all! I don't show a lot of Portugal
but lots of Spain/France. I'm half Portuguese and half Italian. My brother
is a full sibling! We had more in common with the old 'origins' than now!
Crazy.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yep, my dad mostly rolled over to Central Europe too. I'm aware of the
> French and Flemish influence, but it doesn't seem like it should be that
> high. I can't find the white paper on it either. Like I said, call them
> ESTIMATES. Seems like they are going a step backward, into "cocktail party
> conversation" instead of a step forward into science. I'll post the White
> Paper when I find it or when it's released.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:
>
>> I don't think this is accurate - based on this new version I have
>> absolutely no Portuguese. I find that very hard to believe - both of my
>> parents were Portuguese. My mother's family from São Miguel, Açores goes
>> back to the late 1500s. My father is from Moimenta da Beira area of
>> Portugal. I can trace back only to the early 1800s.
>>
>> MaryAnn
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>>>
>>> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
>>> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
>>> interesting tool.
>>>
>>> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
>>> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
>>> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
>>> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
>>> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
>>> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
>>> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>>>
>>> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree
>>> DNA Admin (volunteer)
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Paul]

I agree with MaryAnn, and I understand they are only estimates. My father and 
his parents are Portuguese, yet my estimates do not show any. My mother who's 
father is English and mother is Swedish. The estimates show less than 2% 
British Isles. Previous my origins did not pickup the Scandinavian (Swedish), 
but the new estimate shows Finish. Hinteresting.

Paul G.

Paul Gomes
Ethnic Makeup

European
  
89%
West and Central Europe

Middle Eastern
  
5%
North Africa

Trace Results
  
Finland
<2%
West Africa
<2%
North and Central America
<2%
British Isles
<2%
West Middle East
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Italian & Portuguese people ONLY (or Greek)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores & Madeira)

For those who are half Italian and half Portuguese (I don't think I know of
anyone who is half Greek)

I want to know how the new Origins came out on you guys from FTDNA. Is it
saying you have a chunk of Iberian and a chunk of Southeast Europe? (Then
probably trace amounts). Or is it lopsided between your Italian and
Portuguese?

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Genetic Makeup

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I know, doesn't seem right though. We had small differences last 'origins'
but now it's way off! How in the heck did he get any British Isles! He
didn't show that at all on the last one. I didn't have any East Africa
before only North Africa and around Turkey, Israel and Egypt, now I'm down
in Iran and Iraq!

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yes, inheritance is random and siblings are different. That's a big
> difference in yours!
>
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> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:38 AM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> What a difference between my brother and my sister’s results!  Both show
>> Iberian 35% for brother and 65% for sister but; and quite a difference in
>> what does and does not show up otherwise.  Will be interesting to see how
>> all this changes as they keep refining the tool.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I have the same percentage of Sephardic and NO Iberian at all!

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted again).
>
> Looks like they have some Sephardic samples.
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
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> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>>
>> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
>> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
>> interesting tool.
>>
>> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
>> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
>> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
>> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
>> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
>> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
>> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Genetic Makeup

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, inheritance is random and siblings are different. That's a big
difference in yours!

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:38 AM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> What a difference between my brother and my sister’s results!  Both show
> Iberian 35% for brother and 65% for sister but; and quite a difference in
> what does and does not show up otherwise.  Will be interesting to see how
> all this changes as they keep refining the tool.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted again).

Looks like they have some Sephardic samples.
[image: Inline image 1]

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
> interesting tool.
>
> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>
> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Genetic Makeup

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

What a difference between my brother and my sister’s results!  Both show 
Iberian 35% for brother and 65% for sister but; and quite a difference in what 
does and does not show up otherwise.  Will be interesting to see how all this 
changes as they keep refining the tool.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Cheri Mello]

Yep, my dad mostly rolled over to Central Europe too. I'm aware of the
French and Flemish influence, but it doesn't seem like it should be that
high. I can't find the white paper on it either. Like I said, call them
ESTIMATES. Seems like they are going a step backward, into "cocktail party
conversation" instead of a step forward into science. I'll post the White
Paper when I find it or when it's released.

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> I don't think this is accurate - based on this new version I have
> absolutely no Portuguese. I find that very hard to believe - both of my
> parents were Portuguese. My mother's family from São Miguel, Açores goes
> back to the late 1500s. My father is from Moimenta da Beira area of
> Portugal. I can trace back only to the early 1800s.
>
> MaryAnn
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>>
>> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
>> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
>> interesting tool.
>>
>> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
>> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
>> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
>> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
>> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
>> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
>> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
>> Admin (volunteer)
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[MaryAnn Santos]

I don't think this is accurate - based on this new version I have
absolutely no Portuguese. I find that very hard to believe - both of my
parents were Portuguese. My mother's family from São Miguel, Açores goes
back to the late 1500s. My father is from Moimenta da Beira area of
Portugal. I can trace back only to the early 1800s.

MaryAnn

[image: Inline image 1]

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), it appears that
> they have released their new ethnicity ESTIMATES. This is version 3 of this
> interesting tool.
>
> Since it's brand new, I'll just start with looking at my family. The
> Portuguese was clustered into Southern Europe, a big purple swath from
> Portugal to Spain to Italy then Greece. Good news! They've split the
> western part (Spain and Portugal) into Iberian and the eastern part (Italy
> and Greece) into Southeast Europe. My dad, 50% Portuguese is now 12%
> Iberian and 13% Southeast Europe! His British Isles (the other 50%) is
> gone! I guess the key word is they are still ESTIMATES.
>
> It'll be interesting to see what others get! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA
> Admin (volunteer)
> Cheri Mello
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883:   
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html
   This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in all 
three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The next step 
is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and eliminate any 
of them.  Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best. Somehow I feel 
uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father.  

 

I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only one 
Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at all the 
births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this couple.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger not 
the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers).

 

I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio came to 
the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912.  Is there a way you can show the 
complete record of the snippit you show below? 

The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have shown us 
so far.  Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel Arruda to 
Lucinda  I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the two Lucinda’s 
we have found in the records for 1884. 

Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the last name 
of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one of the two 
Lucinda’s

 

At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the Romanic in 
1911. The Romanic  last arrived in NY in Nov of 1910. Was this the port she 
arrived at? 

 

I have to go back and see if the census says anything about when she married. 
If she was single when she arrived in the US then she could have married in 
Attleboro. If she married in the Acores then it must have been after 1905.

 

Rick

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 10:08 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955)

 

Father Manuel Arruda, Ribeirinha

Father Alexandre M. Caral, Urselina

Father Jose C. Pacheco




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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cheryle Dougherty  
wrote:

Ok, back to the records again.  Here is where I got the name Manuel Arruba for 
her father's name.  This was on the same line as her name in ship log.  She is 
listed as Lucinda Pachaco Averio and her friend that she is coming to is 
Honerio Pacheco Averio (my uncle) It is the first line.  Maybe you might come 
up with a different name.  This was on ancestry.

 

 

 

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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

192 is Simao Pacheco Leite. L and S can sometimes look the same.

Use the shape of the word to help you.

Simao would have a tall letter at the beginning and then a rectangular box 
following.

Lucinda would be a longer word and have a chimney towards the end.

Like this, but in handwritten form:


Inline image 1




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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Cheryle Dougherty  
wrote:

#192  It looked like it could be Lucinda and I saw Pacheco and it looks like it 
could be Averio for the name.  Then I think it is the parents name.  Maybe I am 
looking at it wrong.

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:

If it's the one I think you are seeing it's Simao Pacheco Liete (#192?), I 
don't see a Lucinda on any of the lines. 




Rosemarie 

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Cheryle Dougherty  
wrote:

I found this on passports.  I see a Lucinda Pachaco A???. I can't read the 
other names.