[AZORES-Genealogy] Diz with a mark over z

[Sme]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P38.html

Hello everyone.

Bottom left.   The groom is Pedro  Diz;  parents are Gaspar Lourenco
Cardoso and Anna Diz.

What name is the abbreviation Diz ?

Thanks.
Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pimentel from Ponta DelGada, Saint Michaels

[Pam Santos]

I helped i believe someone with this line further. A year or so ago I will
check if I kept
The tree
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 2:55 PM dwoodtax via Azores Genealogy <
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> Cheri,
> Thank you for the corrections.  I have noted them on my files.
> Donna
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cheri Mello 
> To: Azores Genealogy 
> Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 5:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pimentel from Ponta DelGada, Saint Michaels
>
> The proper spelling of the council is Ponta Delgada. The proper spelling
> of the island is Sao Miguel. The sources I'm going to direct you to use
> Portuguese spellings. We should all use them to simplify our searching.
>
> You can find the records you mention on the CCA site. That's the Azorean
> government website. They have digitized the records. Because it's from the
> Azorean government where Portuguese is the national language, everything
> will be in Portuguese. So you must use Portuguese spellings.
>
> You can use tombo.pt/en as a portal or table of contents to the CCA. The
> navigation is in English. Once you click on the link to the CCA though, you
> will be seeing things in Portuguese again. Once you land on the Tombo.pt/en
> page, look at the left column and type in Faja de Baixo and it will list
> all the records for that freguesia.
>
> As for a Joao born somewhere on Sao Miguel island on what you believe is 7
> Oct 1898...you'll need a freguesia. You could search all 70 churches on Sao
> Miguel looking for him. Here's a list of things to try to narrow down the
> freguesia: https://goo.gl/vOijK0
>
> Good luck!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

You're welcome. 



> On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Sorry Gayle and many thanks!
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:56:44 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> JR,
>> 
>> I think you're actually asking me not Linda. If not, excuse my intrusion.  
>> The website is:
>> ghp.ics.uminho.pt
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:51 PM, JR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Linda, what is the site for Citcem?
>>> 
>>> JR
>>> 
 On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
 Another typo. Sorry. It's Rosaria. 
 
 I think I'll stop now before I make any more mistakes.  ☺️
 
 
 
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Gayle Machado  wrote:
> 
> Sean,
> 
> Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62 
> yrs. more or less. 
> 
> I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record 
> on the tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name 
> and date, especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I 
> couldn't get. The database confirmed what I had written. The database 
> lists the wife as Maria Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little. 
> 
> Gayle
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues 
>> Jorge, the second on the right page: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
>> 
>> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
>> 
>> Is anyone able to read anything?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

John,
The CITCEM is the old NEPS Site:

WWW.ghp.ics.uminho.pt


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 6:51 PM, JR  wrote:

> Linda, what is the site for Citcem?
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Another typo. Sorry. It's Rosaria.
>>
>> I think I'll stop now before I make any more mistakes.  ☺️
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Gayle Machado  wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62
>> yrs. more or less.
>>
>> I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record
>> on the tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name and
>> date, especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I
>> couldn't get. The database confirmed what I had written. The database lists
>> the wife as Maria Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little.
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge,
>> the second on the right page: http://culturacores.azores.gov
>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-
>> SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
>>
>> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
>>
>> Is anyone able to read anything?
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

[JR]

Sorry Gayle and many thanks!

JR

On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:56:44 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> JR,
>
> I think you're actually asking me not Linda. If not, excuse my intrusion. 
>  The website is:
> ghp.ics.uminho.pt
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:51 PM, JR  wrote:
>
> Linda, what is the site for Citcem?
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Another typo. Sorry. It's Rosaria. 
>>
>> I think I'll stop now before I make any more mistakes.  ☺️
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Gayle Machado  wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62 
>> yrs. more or less. 
>>
>> I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record 
>> on the tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name and 
>> date, especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I 
>> couldn't get. The database confirmed what I had written. The database lists 
>> the wife as Maria Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little. 
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, 
>> the second on the right page: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
>>
>> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
>>
>> Is anyone able to read anything?
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

JR,

I think you're actually asking me not Linda. If not, excuse my intrusion.  The 
website is:
ghp.ics.uminho.pt

Gayle



> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:51 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Linda, what is the site for Citcem?
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Another typo. Sorry. It's Rosaria. 
>> 
>> I think I'll stop now before I make any more mistakes.  ☺️
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Gayle Machado  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62 
>>> yrs. more or less. 
>>> 
>>> I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record on 
>>> the tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name and 
>>> date, especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I 
>>> couldn't get. The database confirmed what I had written. The database lists 
>>> the wife as Maria Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little. 
>>> 
>>> Gayle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, 
 the second on the right page: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
 
 It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
 
 Is anyone able to read anything?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

[JR]

Linda, what is the site for Citcem?

JR

On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Another typo. Sorry. It's Rosaria. 
>
> I think I'll stop now before I make any more mistakes.  ☺️
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Gayle Machado  
> wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62 
> yrs. more or less. 
>
> I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record on 
> the tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name and 
> date, especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I 
> couldn't get. The database confirmed what I had written. The database lists 
> the wife as Maria Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little. 
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, 
> the second on the right page: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
>
> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
>
> Is anyone able to read anything?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Another typo. Sorry. It's Rosaria. 

I think I'll stop now before I make any more mistakes.  ☺️



> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Gayle Machado  wrote:
> 
> Sean,
> 
> Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62 yrs. 
> more or less. 
> 
> I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record on 
> the tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name and 
> date, especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I 
> couldn't get. The database confirmed what I had written. The database lists 
> the wife as Maria Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little. 
> 
> Gayle
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, 
>> the second on the right page: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
>> 
>> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
>> 
>> Is anyone able to read anything?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Oops-Borata not Barata. 



> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, the 
> second on the right page: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
> 
> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
> 
> Is anyone able to read anything?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

Manuel Matos Jorge O Barata, native of Sao Mateus, died 8 Sep 1747 at 62 yrs. 
more or less. 

I don't see his wife listed, but it's very difficult reading the record on the 
tiny screen of my phone. So, I went to CITCEM to verify the name and date, 
especially since there seemed to be a word before Barata that I couldn't get. 
The database confirmed what I had written. The database lists the wife as Maria 
Rosario. Maybe this info will help a little. 

Gayle



> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, the 
> second on the right page: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html
> 
> It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.
> 
> Is anyone able to read anything?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Andrew Medeiros]

Hi John, 
Thanks for your response. I will be sure to look into this resource 
further.  Much appreciated.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 7:09:31 AM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
>
> The book is readily available in Ponta Delgada (Sol Mar Bookstore, the 
> airport book shop, etc., and from the author, Dr. Carlos Melo Bento, Rua da 
> Cruz, 45,  
> 9500 Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel, Azores. E-mail: carlosm...@hotmail.com 
> . I think they were selling for 20 euros. Dr. Melo Bento is 
> a lawyer with a very busy practice.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 9:33 PM, Tish M  
> wrote:
>
>
> John,
> I tried finding it either in a library or for sale. I had no luck. Do you 
> have any ideas where the book can be aquired?
> Tish Meals
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I highly recommend Melo Bento, Carlos Eduardo. *Origens Geográficas dos 
> Açores*, Criativaçores, Ponta Delgada: 2015. It gives you not only places 
> of origin but also the first person of the particular family name to come 
> to the Azores.
>
> John
>
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 6:08 PM, Google User  > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Andrew, 
>
> You should google that exact phrase 
> Surname and their origin. Several sites will come up and aid you in your 
> search. 
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Medeiros  > wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable 
> resources, either in print or online, that provide detailed information 
> about the history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I 
> wanted to look up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning 
> and where it came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.  
> Any suggestions?
>
> Many Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Obit

[Sean Andrade]

Hi,

I am having a very difficult time with this obit for Manuel Matues Jorge, 
the second on the right page: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P77.html

It is very faded and I am not seeing any names for his wife or children.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi!

I descend from Maria Joaquina de São Francisco married to Bartolomeu Correia 
Picanço, 21.Nov. 1802, São Mateus, Praia, Graciosa.

I have not Antónia de Jesus de São Francisco and I would like to have the info 
you may give me.

I may send you the information I have if you are interested in it.

Unfortunately I have not worked systematically my Graciosa ancestors… one day I 
will.

 

Muito Obrigado,

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” 

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(   http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

 

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de 
bsei2...@gmail.com
Enviada: terça-feira, 6 de junho de 2017 09:30
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and 
Antonio de Rosario

 

Hello Eliseu,

 

Simam Dionizio and Antonia do Rosario are my wife's 4G grandparents.  She 
descends from their daughter Antonia de Jesus de São Francisco married to 
Antonio José Cordeiro in São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa.  I am just starting on 
this line.

 

Bill Seidler



On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 1:48:43 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:

These are my 6th great grandfathers!

 

Muito Obrigado,

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” 

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(   http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

De: azo...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
 ] Em nome de JR
Enviada: segunda-feira, 5 de junho de 2017 18:37
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and 
Antonio de Rosario

 

Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher Maria 
da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de Antonio 
Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I know that 
Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but sometimes the 
handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was intended comes 
across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would be my best guess.

 

JR 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir is "to 
say." It doesn't make sense there.

Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the CCA 
for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it I think.

Cheri




Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  
> wrote:

Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)

 

 

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html

 

Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde  e de sua mulher 
Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos

 

Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose  e de sua mulher 
Maria de Mendonca  (behind the watermark)

 

Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale through Sunday, June 18, 11:59 pm CDT

[Cheri Mello]

Andrew,

Since you ordered a YDNA test for your grandfather, he's an existing
customer. If you ordered a YDNA on yourself, you'd be a new customer (and a
different person than your grandfather) so you would receive your own kit
number.

No, I would not order a YDNA test for yourself. It *should* be identical,
however, mutations are random events that happen. Since your grandfather is
the older generation, you want to work with his DNA. Wait until it comes in
and see if he has any good YDNA matches. FTDNA will have another sale at
the end of the year.

It looks like they are having a hard time with your grandfather's Family
Finder. It appears that they found a Y chromosome and are extracting that.
Both tests are within the given processing time, so you get to sit and wait.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale through Sunday, June 18, 11:59 pm CDT

[Andrew Medeiros]

Hello Cheri,

I wanted to find out from you if it is worthwhile ordering a Y-DNA test for 
myself to help find out more about who my great-great grandfather was on my 
paternal line.  I already ordered an submitted a Y-DNA test on behalf of my 
paternal grandfather to try to figure this out.  Would having a Y-DNA test 
for myself help to solve this mystery or no? Basically, I'm asking are two 
paternal tests on the same line better than one?

If I do order a YDNA test, would I receive my own kit number?

Many thanks,
Andrew

On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 12:34:35 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>
> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a 10 day sale in honor of Father's Day 
> (in America).
>
> They have Y-DNA 37 on sale, Family Finder on sale, and a few combination 
> packages.
>
> If you have tested with FTDNA and would like to add on a different type of 
> testing, log into the page with your kit number and password and look for 
> the blue UPGRADE button towards the upper right corner.
>
> If you have never tested before (or convinced Uncle Joe to test), you'll 
> need to order a new kit. New orders are here:
> Azores: https://goo.gl/vbzLM7
> Madeira: https://goo.gl/MeUMak
> Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/kwdGdS
>
> If you'd like to test a non-Portuguese relative, go to the main site at 
> www.ftdna.com and the Search For A Surname box, type their surname or 
> region of the world that their line comes from.
>
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Why researching a whole freguesia is good idea

[IslandRoutes]

Thanks for posting a link to my article, Cheri! 

I have been fortunate that a good portion of this line stayed in Maia for 
many generations.  So, you can imagine that the further you go back the 
more you marry into families and the more people you collect.

It really wasn't until a cousin in Fall River, MA found me that I started 
to collect most of the village.  We had to do quite a bit of research to 
figure out how her line that left in the 1890s and my line that left in 
1882 were related.  By the time we got done untangling it, we had 
researched half the darn village.  Now we know that we are 4th cousins, 
once removed through 3 lines, and 6 cousins twice removed (once).

It's because of delving into the families that I've been able to find my 
connections to Craig Mello (Nobel Prize winner), David Leite (chef and 
cookbook writer/columnist), and Remigio Pereira (Canadian singer and 
musician)--all with roots in Maia.

Finding the famous people is fun, but I feel because I've done so much 
research in this one village, I have a little more sense of who they are, 
their ancestry, and how my family fits in.  Learning that I have cousins in 
California, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Canada, and 
most likely Brasil (haven't explored that one yet) is pretty neat.


On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:28:16 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Mel Lassalle, one of our list members, writes a blog. Her specialty is 
> Portuguese Hawaiian research, but she writes on other topics as well.
>
> Today, she wrote about how she started off researching only one line in 
> the freguesia (village) of Maia and how it turned into researching most of 
> Maia. You can read her article here:
> https://goo.gl/Wy2Bz3
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale through Sunday, June 18, 11:59 pm CDT

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a 10 day sale in honor of Father's Day
(in America).

They have Y-DNA 37 on sale, Family Finder on sale, and a few combination
packages.

If you have tested with FTDNA and would like to add on a different type of
testing, log into the page with your kit number and password and look for
the blue UPGRADE button towards the upper right corner.

If you have never tested before (or convinced Uncle Joe to test), you'll
need to order a new kit. New orders are here:
Azores: https://goo.gl/vbzLM7
Madeira: https://goo.gl/MeUMak
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/kwdGdS

If you'd like to test a non-Portuguese relative, go to the main site at
www.ftdna.com and the Search For A Surname box, type their surname or
region of the world that their line comes from.

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

The book is readily available in Ponta Delgada (Sol Mar Bookstore, the airport 
book shop, etc., and from the author, Dr. Carlos Melo Bento, Rua da Cruz, 45,  
9500 Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel, Azores. E-mail: carlosmelobe...@hotmail.com. I 
think they were selling for 20 euros. Dr. Melo Bento is a lawyer with a very 
busy practice.

Hope this helps.
John Miranda Raposo 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 9:33 PM, Tish M  wrote:
 

 John,I tried finding it either in a library or for sale. I had no luck. Do you 
have any ideas where the book can be aquired?Tish Meals
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

I highly recommend Melo Bento, Carlos Eduardo. Origens Geográficas dos Açores, 
Criativaçores, Ponta Delgada: 2015. It gives you not only places of origin but 
also the first person of the particular family name to come to the Azores.
John
 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 6:08 PM, Google User  
wrote:
 

 Hi Andrew, 
You should google that exact phrase Surname and their origin. Several sites 
will come up and aid you in your search. 

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Medeiros  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable resources, 
either in print or online, that provide detailed information about the history 
of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I wanted to look up the 
history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning and where it came from.  
However, I am having a difficult time doing so.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Al Gore, Former VP of USA

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Do we know any more? which parish, island, full name?
John
 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 11:55 PM, Nelia DiBiase  
wrote:
 

 Hi all,
Not sure if you're all aware but I just found out that Al Gore is of Azorean 
decent. 8th great grandfather was surname Medeiros from the Azores. 
You probably already knew...lol. I just found this out and was fascinated. For 
such a small group of islands Azorean descendants most certainly have had major 
impact in this great big world of ours. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[bsei2816]

Hello Eliseu,


Simam Dionizio and Antonia do Rosario are my wife's 4G grandparents.  She 
descends from their daughter Antonia de Jesus de São Francisco married to 
Antonio José Cordeiro in São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa.  I am just starting 
on this line.

Bill Seidler


On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 1:48:43 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:

> These are my 6th great grandfathers!
>
>  
>
> Muito Obrigado,
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *JR
> *Enviada:* segunda-feira, 5 de junho de 2017 18:37
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio 
> and Antonio de Rosario
>
>  
>
> Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher 
> Maria da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de 
> Antonio Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I 
> know that Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but 
> sometimes the handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was 
> intended comes across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would 
> be my best guess.
>
>  
>
> JR 
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir 
> is "to say." It doesn't make sense there.
>
> Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the 
> CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it 
> I think.
>
> Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:
>
> Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html
>
>  
>
> Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de sua 
> mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos
>
>  
>
> Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua 
> mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)
>
>  
>
> Bill Seidler
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

These are my 6th great grandfathers!

 

Muito Obrigado,

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” 

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(   http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de JR
Enviada: segunda-feira, 5 de junho de 2017 18:37
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and 
Antonio de Rosario

 

Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher Maria 
da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de Antonio 
Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I know that 
Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but sometimes the 
handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was intended comes 
across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would be my best guess.

 

JR 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir is "to 
say." It doesn't make sense there.

Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the CCA 
for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it I think.

Cheri




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:

Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)

 

 

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html

 

Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde  e de sua mulher 
Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos

 

Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose  e de sua mulher 
Maria de Mendonca  (behind the watermark)

 

Bill Seidler

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